Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[ChrisL]

Maybe he had a brain tumor or something. I've read about a mass shooter having a brain tumor and the autopsy showing brain damage from it.

 

[Leo123]

Killer was a one percenter ?
The Associated Press ✔ @AP
BREAKING: Brother says Las Vegas shooter was multi-millionaire real estate investor.

4:27 PM - Oct 2, 2017

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Yeah and a gambler, real estate tycoon, multimillionaire and crazy in his old age

The cons got grumpy when we brought up trump. I wonder why? The only thing missing is the Russian connection.

Screw you.

 

[Leo123]

My condolences and sympathies to the family and friends of the victims. Very sad. I saw an interview with his brother today, and he was just trying to wrap his head around this whole thing. I heard that the father of this man was a bank robber and the police had once stated he was "psychotic." I wonder how much these types of things have to do with genetics, when someone just seems to freak out or snap and do something totally nuts like this.

This is more than a snap...it appears he was planning it for a long time. I'd be looking at his girl friend for more info on him. She is supposedly in Japan right now. Also, his brother never mentioned their psychotic father...I find that curious also, in light of the opiate epidemic we have today, I have read a lot about it and it is possible for an opiate addict to disassociate from human feelings. Lots of questions here....Not many answers....so far.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Maybe he had a brain tumor or something. I've read about a mass shooter having a brain tumor and the autopsy showing brain damage from it.

The Texas Bell Tower shooter Charles Whitman
Experts still disagree on role of Tower shooter's brain tumor |

 

[ChrisL]

My condolences and sympathies to the family and friends of the victims. Very sad. I saw an interview with his brother today, and he was just trying to wrap his head around this whole thing. I heard that the father of this man was a bank robber and the police had once stated he was "psychotic." I wonder how much these types of things have to do with genetics, when someone just seems to freak out or snap and do something totally nuts like this.

This is more than a snap...it appears he was planning it for a long time. I'd be looking at his girl friend for more info on him. She is supposedly in Japan right now. Also, his brother never mentioned their psychotic father...I find that curious also, in light of the opiate epidemic we have today, I have read a lot about it and it is possible for an opiate addict to disassociate from human feelings. Lots of questions here....Not many answers....so far.

Well, here is a little more info about his father.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/vegas-gunmans-psychopath-dad-landed-on-fbis-most-wanted-list/

The father of Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock was a “psychopath” himself — a bank robber who escaped federal prison in the late 1960s and landed on the FBI’s most-wanted list, according to reports.

Paddock’s dad was serial felon Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, according to the Daily Mail and a tweet from NBC.

Benjamin Paddock had been locked up in 1960 for robbing an Arizona bank, escaped in 1968 and spent nearly three years on the run before the FBI caught up to him in Las Vegas in 1971, at which point he tried to run down an agent with his car, according to archival editions of the Tuscon Daily Citizen.

“Since he has utilized firearms in previous crimes, has employed violence in attempting to evade arrest and has been diagnosed as being psychopathic, [Benjamin] Paddock should be considered extremely dangerous,” Palmer M. Baken Jr., agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office, said at the time, according to the Citizen.

His son killed at least 50 people and injured 400 Sunday night in the worst mass shooting in US history.

 

[Leo123]

My condolences and sympathies to the family and friends of the victims. Very sad. I saw an interview with his brother today, and he was just trying to wrap his head around this whole thing. I heard that the father of this man was a bank robber and the police had once stated he was "psychotic." I wonder how much these types of things have to do with genetics, when someone just seems to freak out or snap and do something totally nuts like this.

This is more than a snap...it appears he was planning it for a long time. I'd be looking at his girl friend for more info on him. She is supposedly in Japan right now. Also, his brother never mentioned their psychotic father...I find that curious also, in light of the opiate epidemic we have today, I have read a lot about it and it is possible for an opiate addict to disassociate from human feelings. Lots of questions here....Not many answers....so far.

Well, here is a little more info about his father.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/vegas-gunmans-psychopath-dad-landed-on-fbis-most-wanted-list/

The father of Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock was a “psychopath” himself — a bank robber who escaped federal prison in the late 1960s and landed on the FBI’s most-wanted list, according to reports.

Paddock’s dad was serial felon Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, according to the Daily Mail and a tweet from NBC.

Benjamin Paddock had been locked up in 1960 for robbing an Arizona bank, escaped in 1968 and spent nearly three years on the run before the FBI caught up to him in Las Vegas in 1971, at which point he tried to run down an agent with his car, according to archival editions of the Tuscon Daily Citizen.

“Since he has utilized firearms in previous crimes, has employed violence in attempting to evade arrest and has been diagnosed as being psychopathic, [Benjamin] Paddock should be considered extremely dangerous,” Palmer M. Baken Jr., agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office, said at the time, according to the Citizen.

His son killed at least 50 people and injured 400 Sunday night in the worst mass shooting in US history.

I would think that if the perp were affected by his father's insanity, it would have occurred much earlier in his life, not when he was turning 65. After all, the perp was a solid citizen with several homes and was (he's room temperature now) and a millionaire. By all accounts a very successful individual.

 

[Dale Smith]

Unless it was all "staged" .... we only know what "they" let trickle out. Not much.
The Maiden-Marion (and I) are suspicious. Calling Dale Smith



edit: this is all too clean? shoot a bunch of TrumpAholics in the back from 400 yards with houses full of other weapons? No one knows anything? Maybe some truth will come out some day?

It reeks of an Operation Gladio type of event. There are too many conflicting accounts like there were multiple shooters and there is clear video of rifle flashes on the 10th floor from three different rooms. They turned on the lights while this was going on making the concert-goers more vulnerable THEN you have exits that were blocked and inaccessible to them to escape.

THEN we are told that this 64 year old man lugged nearly 20 rifles up to the 32nd floor of a posh Vegas Hotel and no one noticed? This is the epitome of the Hegelian Dialectic.....create a crisis, wait for the emotional outcry and then propose a solution to the very problem you caused that fits your agenda. Not even 24 hours after this event, I got an e-mail from Moveon.org asking me to sign a petition banning semi-automatic weapons while begging for a donation.......such bullshit.

 

[ChrisL]

My condolences and sympathies to the family and friends of the victims. Very sad. I saw an interview with his brother today, and he was just trying to wrap his head around this whole thing. I heard that the father of this man was a bank robber and the police had once stated he was "psychotic." I wonder how much these types of things have to do with genetics, when someone just seems to freak out or snap and do something totally nuts like this.

This is more than a snap...it appears he was planning it for a long time. I'd be looking at his girl friend for more info on him. She is supposedly in Japan right now. Also, his brother never mentioned their psychotic father...I find that curious also, in light of the opiate epidemic we have today, I have read a lot about it and it is possible for an opiate addict to disassociate from human feelings. Lots of questions here....Not many answers....so far.

Well, here is a little more info about his father.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/vegas-gunmans-psychopath-dad-landed-on-fbis-most-wanted-list/

The father of Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock was a “psychopath” himself — a bank robber who escaped federal prison in the late 1960s and landed on the FBI’s most-wanted list, according to reports.

Paddock’s dad was serial felon Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, according to the Daily Mail and a tweet from NBC.

Benjamin Paddock had been locked up in 1960 for robbing an Arizona bank, escaped in 1968 and spent nearly three years on the run before the FBI caught up to him in Las Vegas in 1971, at which point he tried to run down an agent with his car, according to archival editions of the Tuscon Daily Citizen.

“Since he has utilized firearms in previous crimes, has employed violence in attempting to evade arrest and has been diagnosed as being psychopathic, [Benjamin] Paddock should be considered extremely dangerous,” Palmer M. Baken Jr., agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office, said at the time, according to the Citizen.

His son killed at least 50 people and injured 400 Sunday night in the worst mass shooting in US history.

I would think that if the perp were affected by his father's insanity, it would have occurred much earlier in his life, not when he was turning 65. After all, the perp was a solid citizen with several homes and was (he's room tempera millionaire. By all accounts a very successful individual.

You would think but that is the thing with mental illness, it is very unpredictable.

 

[ChrisL]

My condolences and sympathies to the family and friends of the victims. Very sad. I saw an interview with his brother today, and he was just trying to wrap his head around this whole thing. I heard that the father of this man was a bank robber and the police had once stated he was "psychotic." I wonder how much these types of things have to do with genetics, when someone just seems to freak out or snap and do something totally nuts like this.

This is more than a snap...it appears he was planning it for a long time. I'd be looking at his girl friend for more info on him. She is supposedly in Japan right now. Also, his brother never mentioned their psychotic father...I find that curious also, in light of the opiate epidemic we have today, I have read a lot about it and it is possible for an opiate addict to disassociate from human feelings. Lots of questions here....Not many answers....so far.

Well, here is a little more info about his father.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/vegas-gunmans-psychopath-dad-landed-on-fbis-most-wanted-list/

The father of Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock was a “psychopath” himself — a bank robber who escaped federal prison in the late 1960s and landed on the FBI’s most-wanted list, according to reports.

Paddock’s dad was serial felon Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, according to the Daily Mail and a tweet from NBC.

Benjamin Paddock had been locked up in 1960 for robbing an Arizona bank, escaped in 1968 and spent nearly three years on the run before the FBI caught up to him in Las Vegas in 1971, at which point he tried to run down an agent with his car, according to archival editions of the Tuscon Daily Citizen.

“Since he has utilized firearms in previous crimes, has employed violence in attempting to evade arrest and has been diagnosed as being psychopathic, [Benjamin] Paddock should be considered extremely dangerous,” Palmer M. Baken Jr., agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office, said at the time, according to the Citizen.

His son killed at least 50 people and injured 400 Sunday night in the worst mass shooting in US history.

I would think that if the perp were affected by his father's insanity, it would have occurred much earlier in his life, not when he was turning 65. After all, the perp was a solid citizen with several homes and was (he's room tempera millionaire. By all accounts a very successful individual.

Psychopaths are generally very charming and live functional lives on the outside. It's on the inside where there is turmoil.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Couldn't have been a Muslim.

Retard.

Why is that sarcasm lost on you? You must be a retard.

It's sarcasm now only because you jumped the gun and were wrong.

It's sarcasm now and was sarcasm then because I said it couldn't be a Muslim.

 

[ChrisL]

His brother had stated that there was no history of mental illness, but that doesn't necessarily mean his brother wasn't suffering from some kind of mental illness and the signs were missed by him and others. That happens quite often. People will say, "I am so shocked. I had no idea." "He seemed like such a nice guy, a good father, a member of the PTA." Etc. Is there something inside all of us that could just "snap" one day if the pressures of life become too much to bear? I don't know, I've beared a whole lot of things and I've never wanted to kill innocent people or really anyone for that matter.

 

[Faun]

Unless it was all "staged" .... we only know what "they" let trickle out. Not much.
The Maiden-Marion (and I) are suspicious. Calling Dale Smith



edit: this is all too clean? shoot a bunch of TrumpAholics in the back from 400 yards with houses full of other weapons? No one knows anything? Maybe some truth will come out some day?

It reeks of an Operation Gladio type of event. There are too many conflicting accounts like there were multiple shooters and there is clear video of rifle flashes on the 10th floor from three different rooms. They turned on the lights while this was going on making the concert-goers more vulnerable THEN you have exits that were blocked and inaccessible to them to escape.

THEN we are told that this 64 year old man lugged nearly 20 rifles up to the 32nd floor of a posh Vegas Hotel and no one noticed? This is the epitome of the Hegelian Dialectic.....create a crisis, wait for the emotional outcry and then propose a solution to the very problem you caused that fits your agenda. Not even 24 hours after this event, I got an e-mail from Moveon.org asking me to sign a petition banning semi-automatic weapons while begging for a donation.......such bullshit.

Another hoax, eh, delusional dale?

 

[OklaSusie]

Unless it was all "staged" .... we only know what "they" let trickle out. Not much.
The Maiden-Marion (and I) are suspicious. Calling Dale Smith



edit: this is all too clean? shoot a bunch of TrumpAholics in the back from 400 yards with houses full of other weapons? No one knows anything? Maybe some truth will come out some day?

It reeks of an Operation Gladio type of event. There are too many conflicting accounts like there were multiple shooters and there is clear video of rifle flashes on the 10th floor from three different rooms. They turned on the lights while this was going on making the concert-goers more vulnerable THEN you have exits that were blocked and inaccessible to them to escape.

THEN we are told that this 64 year old man lugged nearly 20 rifles up to the 32nd floor of a posh Vegas Hotel and no one noticed? This is the epitome of the Hegelian Dialectic.....create a crisis, wait for the emotional outcry and then propose a solution to the very problem you caused that fits your agenda. Not even 24 hours after this event, I got an e-mail from Moveon.org asking me to sign a petition banning semi-automatic weapons while begging for a donation.......such bullshit.

You are one sick schizophrenic who needs to get mental health assistance as soon as possible.

And, do you liars ever make up your minds? Some tinfoilers are saying 4th floor; you say the 10th.

The bullshit is from you.

Seriously, dude, check yourself into a mental health facility. You are one sick person.

 

[leftwinger]

All we know is shots came out of a Hotel window starting at 10PM or so. The Cops blew the door open more than 1 hour later and find a dead gambler, initially labeled a "suicide". Note: audio before they blow the door has no gunshot sounds.

I reserve the right to wonder.........WTH?

 

[Leo123]

You would think but that is the thing with mental illness, it is very unpredictable.

I think when one has a psychotic father, mental illness in the kids may be indicated. Our framework for human interaction is largely formed by our family life. How one treats others, what is acceptable and what is not, etc. is all we really know. A child could accept psychosis as normal....not knowing or experiencing normal family life. I haven't heard if he has kids or not but that would be interesting to know considering his advanced age.

 

[Dale Smith]

Unless it was all "staged" .... we only know what "they" let trickle out. Not much.
The Maiden-Marion (and I) are suspicious. Calling Dale Smith



edit: this is all too clean? shoot a bunch of TrumpAholics in the back from 400 yards with houses full of other weapons? No one knows anything? Maybe some truth will come out some day?

It reeks of an Operation Gladio type of event. There are too many conflicting accounts like there were multiple shooters and there is clear video of rifle flashes on the 10th floor from three different rooms. They turned on the lights while this was going on making the concert-goers more vulnerable THEN you have exits that were blocked and inaccessible to them to escape.

THEN we are told that this 64 year old man lugged nearly 20 rifles up to the 32nd floor of a posh Vegas Hotel and no one noticed? This is the epitome of the Hegelian Dialectic.....create a crisis, wait for the emotional outcry and then propose a solution to the very problem you caused that fits your agenda. Not even 24 hours after this event, I got an e-mail from Moveon.org asking me to sign a petition banning semi-automatic weapons while begging for a donation.......such bullshit.

Another hoax, eh, delusional dale?

Not a hoax, fawn..........I simply doubt the official narrative including the story that the alleged shooter had Antifa literature in his hotel room. People did die and from what I have ascertained? They were left like sitting ducks when the lights were turned on. Do YOU buy the official story "lock, stock and barrel" with the attitude of "Move along folks...nothing to see here"?

 

[Dale Smith]

Unless it was all "staged" .... we only know what "they" let trickle out. Not much.
The Maiden-Marion (and I) are suspicious. Calling Dale Smith



edit: this is all too clean? shoot a bunch of TrumpAholics in the back from 400 yards with houses full of other weapons? No one knows anything? Maybe some truth will come out some day?

It reeks of an Operation Gladio type of event. There are too many conflicting accounts like there were multiple shooters and there is clear video of rifle flashes on the 10th floor from three different rooms. They turned on the lights while this was going on making the concert-goers more vulnerable THEN you have exits that were blocked and inaccessible to them to escape.

THEN we are told that this 64 year old man lugged nearly 20 rifles up to the 32nd floor of a posh Vegas Hotel and no one noticed? This is the epitome of the Hegelian Dialectic.....create a crisis, wait for the emotional outcry and then propose a solution to the very problem you caused that fits your agenda. Not even 24 hours after this event, I got an e-mail from Moveon.org asking me to sign a petition banning semi-automatic weapons while begging for a donation.......such bullshit.

You are one sick schizophrenic who needs to get mental health assistance as soon as possible.

And, do you liars ever make up your minds? Some tinfoilers are saying 4th floor; you say the 10th.

The bullshit is from you.

Seriously, dude, check yourself into a mental health facility. You are one sick person.

I am simply making a guess on what floors they were on based on visual evidence...what I do know is that the flashes from the guns wasn't coming from the 32nd floor. Debate me on content and seek honest discussion instead of making flaming comments. I am more than willing to have an honest dialogue...what about you?

 

[Dale Smith]

All we know is shots came out of a Hotel window starting at 10PM or so. The Cops blew the door open more than 1 hour later and find a dead gambler, initially labeled a "suicide". Note: audio before they blow the door has no gunshot sounds.

I reserve the right to wonder.........WTH?

You see what the deal is? We are not suppose to ever question anything and simply accept the official narrative as God given truth....you know, like the Gulf of Tonkin incident that has been declassified and now know that it never happened 50 years after the fact....tooo bad for the 60,000 soldiers that died.....tis only a mistake.

 

[DarkFury]

Unless it was all "staged" .... we only know what "they" let trickle out. Not much.
The Maiden-Marion (and I) are suspicious. Calling Dale Smith



edit: this is all too clean? shoot a bunch of TrumpAholics in the back from 400 yards with houses full of other weapons? No one knows anything? Maybe some truth will come out some day?

It reeks of an Operation Gladio type of event. There are too many conflicting accounts like there were multiple shooters and there is clear video of rifle flashes on the 10th floor from three different rooms. They turned on the lights while this was going on making the concert-goers more vulnerable THEN you have exits that were blocked and inaccessible to them to escape.

THEN we are told that this 64 year old man lugged nearly 20 rifles up to the 32nd floor of a posh Vegas Hotel and no one noticed? This is the epitome of the Hegelian Dialectic.....create a crisis, wait for the emotional outcry and then propose a solution to the very problem you caused that fits your agenda. Not even 24 hours after this event, I got an e-mail from Moveon.org asking me to sign a petition banning semi-automatic weapons while begging for a donation.......such bullshit.

You are one sick schizophrenic who needs to get mental health assistance as soon as possible.

And, do you liars ever make up your minds? Some tinfoilers are saying 4th floor; you say the 10th.

The bullshit is from you.

Seriously, dude, check yourself into a mental health facility. You are one sick person.

I am simply making a guess on what floors they were on based on visual evidence...what I do know is that the flashes from the guns wasn't coming from the 32nd floor. Debate me on content and seek honest discussion instead of making flaming comments. I am more than willing to have an honest dialogue...what about you?

Here is a few of the story parts that are bothering me.
1. He picked a snipers paradise. 4000 people crowded into an area not much over 2 acres. Great shooting Lane with a fantastic shooting alley. That would suggest trained.
2. No military background as using multiple calibers is a non trained mistake. But someone taught him because he knew the shooting lanes.

 

[Dale Smith]

Unless it was all "staged" .... we only know what "they" let trickle out. Not much.
The Maiden-Marion (and I) are suspicious. Calling Dale Smith



edit: this is all too clean? shoot a bunch of TrumpAholics in the back from 400 yards with houses full of other weapons? No one knows anything? Maybe some truth will come out some day?

It reeks of an Operation Gladio type of event. There are too many conflicting accounts like there were multiple shooters and there is clear video of rifle flashes on the 10th floor from three different rooms. They turned on the lights while this was going on making the concert-goers more vulnerable THEN you have exits that were blocked and inaccessible to them to escape.

THEN we are told that this 64 year old man lugged nearly 20 rifles up to the 32nd floor of a posh Vegas Hotel and no one noticed? This is the epitome of the Hegelian Dialectic.....create a crisis, wait for the emotional outcry and then propose a solution to the very problem you caused that fits your agenda. Not even 24 hours after this event, I got an e-mail from Moveon.org asking me to sign a petition banning semi-automatic weapons while begging for a donation.......such bullshit.

You are one sick schizophrenic who needs to get mental health assistance as soon as possible.

And, do you liars ever make up your minds? Some tinfoilers are saying 4th floor; you say the 10th.

The bullshit is from you.

Seriously, dude, check yourself into a mental health facility. You are one sick person.

I am simply making a guess on what floors they were on based on visual evidence...what I do know is that the flashes from the guns wasn't coming from the 32nd floor. Debate me on content and seek honest discussion instead of making flaming comments. I am more than willing to have an honest dialogue...what about you?

Here is a few of the story parts that are bothering me.
1. He picked a snipers paradise. 4000 people crowded into an area not much over 2 acres. Great shooting Lane with a fantastic shooting alley. That would suggest trained.
2. No military background as using multiple calibers is a non trained mistake. But someone taught him because he knew the shooting lanes.

What pisses me off is that some people absolutely soil themselves with indignant outrage if you DARE question the official narrative even if there are enough holes in the official story to drive a tank through. The sheeple want those of us with critical thinking skills to STFU and never question.........fuck that shit.