LaVoy Finicum, armed with a handgun, reached for his waistband just before he was shot

[Skylar]

Though just to give a lovely contrast to how insanely irrational you are in your standards......when a 12 year old boy sitting on a swing was shot within 3 seconds of police arriving for reaching for a TOY gun, you said this:

This was the right decision made. The hard working white American taxpayer will be spared the burden of having his pocket book fleeced defending these patriots actions of ridding the country of a black feral criminal who would eventually rape white women and kill with no remorse or regard to human life.

Great Breaking News: Grand Jury Refuses To Indict White Police Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting

But when a 47 year old armed occupier who swore he wouldn't serve any time in a concrete box resists arrest, tries to run a police blockade, misses a LEO officer by inches, rushes from his truck and is shot reaching for a REAL gun...

....its a conspiracy.

If not for double standards, our white nationalist militia headjobs would have no standards at all.

 

[jon_berzerk]

He was reaching for or at his left pocket which is where his loaded 9mm was. Cops don't wait to make sure armed men fleeing custody are just reaching for their Iphones.

And how exactly cops knew there is a gun in his left pocket?

He was in Oregon in order to commit a crime of domestic terrorism.

Domestic terrorism! Lol........against whom and how? The man swerved to avoid hitting the barracade and a dumbass trooper who went out of his way to jump in front of the truck for some reason, probably to create the notion that Finicum tried to run down an officer justifying them to use deadly force. But no, Finicum immediately applied his brakes and got out instead of putting the peddle to the metal and attempting to go around the road block continuing on to see the sheriff that was waiting on him. He'll at the first road block Finicum can be heard right before he takes off telling one of the troopers to follow them to meet the sheriff with them. They fired a round at the truck instead as they left. The bottom line is the feds didn't want Finicum reaching the sheriff who agreed to meet him. Why couldn't the feds and troopers wait and arrest him in town?

justifying them to use deadly force.

they started using deadly force when the truck rounded the curve

True but they probably had a 2nd plan to give them an excuse to execute him so he couldn't reach the sheriff. The cop going out of his way to run in front of Finicums truck as Finicum was clearly not wanting to harm the officers is apparent.

they seemed to be some of the most poorly trained law enforcement officers i have ever seen

and they are considered the elite

--LOL

 

[Skylar]

Finicum had a meeting with the sheriff who was willinh

And he was stopped and served a lawful warrant for his arrest before that meeting. Everyone who peacefully surrendered for their arrest was fine.

Only among those that ran from the cops, led them on high speed chases and rushed police blockades did anyone get hurt.

 

[Faun]

quit lying you asshole i am not making finicum the victim

Sure you are, when you say things like "the state cops as well fired on the truck while it was a approaching who gave the shoot to kill orders that day" and "that is no reason to authorize deadly force".


He didn't "approach" he was traveling about 70 mph and appeared to be ready to crash into the barricade swerving at the last second into the snow almost running over a LEO.

Who "authorized deadly force" implies a conspiracy to kill Finicrum, LEO's are always authorized the use of deadly force to defend themselves and when an individual known to be armed is told to keep his hands up and instead yells "You will have to shoot me" and then reaches for a gun - there is no need to get "authorization" for deadly force. The authorization already exists under the law, you don't have to let someone shoot at you first before defending yourself.


>>>>

He didn't "approach" he was traveling about 70 mph and appeared to be ready to crash into the barricade swerving at the last second into the snow almost running over a LEO.


he was traveling 70 miles and hour in a 65 mile an hour zone

better go look at the tape again

stop your lying the cops said they shot at the truck when it redounded the corner

While being chased by police.

yes it is not too bright to shoot at the bad guys while your team mates are in line to be hit by arrant crossfire

it would be interesting to see if either one of the law enforcement trucks had bullet holes

it is really lucky that none of the cops accidentally shot each other

in their several crossfire actions

this will go down in the training journals as what not to do

Huh? Not a single officer was injured and everyone was peaceably arrested except for the one dumbass who made a motion to reach for a gun.

 

[jon_berzerk]

quit lying you asshole i am not making finicum the victim

Sure you are, when you say things like "the state cops as well fired on the truck while it was a approaching who gave the shoot to kill orders that day" and "that is no reason to authorize deadly force".


He didn't "approach" he was traveling about 70 mph and appeared to be ready to crash into the barricade swerving at the last second into the snow almost running over a LEO.

Who "authorized deadly force" implies a conspiracy to kill Finicrum, LEO's are always authorized the use of deadly force to defend themselves and when an individual known to be armed is told to keep his hands up and instead yells "You will have to shoot me" and then reaches for a gun - there is no need to get "authorization" for deadly force. The authorization already exists under the law, you don't have to let someone shoot at you first before defending yourself.


>>>>

He didn't "approach" he was traveling about 70 mph and appeared to be ready to crash into the barricade swerving at the last second into the snow almost running over a LEO.


he was traveling 70 miles and hour in a 65 mile an hour zone

better go look at the tape again

stop your lying the cops said they shot at the truck when it redounded the corner

While being chased by police.

yes it is not too bright to shoot at the bad guys while your team mates are in line to be hit by arrant crossfire

it would be interesting to see if either one of the law enforcement trucks had bullet holes

it is really lucky that none of the cops accidentally shot each other

in their several crossfire actions

this will go down in the training journals as what not to do

Huh? Not a single officer was injured and everyone was peaceably arrested except for the one dumbass who made a motion to reach for a gun.

yes i said lucky didnt i

wonder how many police training manuals instruct an officer to shoot

at the bad guys while other folks like law enforcement are in the line of fire

 

[Skylar]

And how exactly cops knew there is a gun in his left pocket?

He was in Oregon in order to commit a crime of domestic terrorism.

Domestic terrorism! Lol........against whom and how? The man swerved to avoid hitting the barracade and a dumbass trooper who went out of his way to jump in front of the truck for some reason, probably to create the notion that Finicum tried to run down an officer justifying them to use deadly force. But no, Finicum immediately applied his brakes and got out instead of putting the peddle to the metal and attempting to go around the road block continuing on to see the sheriff that was waiting on him. He'll at the first road block Finicum can be heard right before he takes off telling one of the troopers to follow them to meet the sheriff with them. They fired a round at the truck instead as they left. The bottom line is the feds didn't want Finicum reaching the sheriff who agreed to meet him. Why couldn't the feds and troopers wait and arrest him in town?

justifying them to use deadly force.

they started using deadly force when the truck rounded the curve

True but they probably had a 2nd plan to give them an excuse to execute him so he couldn't reach the sheriff. The cop going out of his way to run in front of Finicums truck as Finicum was clearly not wanting to harm the officers is apparent.

they seemed to be some of the most poorly trained law enforcement officers i have ever seen

Laughing.....in your professional assessment of LEO, huh? What, did you just finish watching a Hill Street Blues marathon on Netflix?

What possible value would your 'assessment' have? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

When the incident is investigated by ACTUAL cops with ACTUAL LEO experience, they found the shooting to be justified and the State Patrolman's actions to be appropriate. We even have a video backing up their account. Why would I ignore the investigation AND the video...and instead believe you?

What, you watch a lot of Law and Order? Once dressed up as the cop in the Village people for halloween?

 

[Faun]

Finicum had a meeting with the sheriff who was waiting on them. The troopers could have called into the Sheriffs Dept to confirm Finicum was telling the truth. It was crucial Finicum had to be at that meeting in order to avoid being executed by the feds.

What lunacy. People being arrested don't get to dictate to law enforcement.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Though just to give a lovely contrast to how insanely irrational you are in your standards......when a 12 year old boy sitting on a swing was shot within 3 seconds of police arriving for reaching for a TOY gun, you said this:

This was the right decision made. The hard working white American taxpayer will be spared the burden of having his pocket book fleeced defending these patriots actions of ridding the country of a black feral criminal who would eventually rape white women and kill with no remorse or regard to human life.

Great Breaking News: Grand Jury Refuses To Indict White Police Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting

But when a 47 year old armed occupier who swore he wouldn't serve any time in a concrete box resists arrest, tries to run a police blockade, misses a LEO officer by inches, rushes from his truck and is shot reaching for a REAL gun...

....its a conspiracy.

If not for double standards, our white nationalist militia headjobs would have no standards at all.

Finicum never attempted to kill anyone. Finicum
never was seen with a gun. Finicum attempted to swerve from hitting a cop who was attempting to be purposely hit by Finicum. It's clear as night and day the cop ran towards the front of his truck instead of away from it.

 

[Skylar]

Sure you are, when you say things like "the state cops as well fired on the truck while it was a approaching who gave the shoot to kill orders that day" and "that is no reason to authorize deadly force".


He didn't "approach" he was traveling about 70 mph and appeared to be ready to crash into the barricade swerving at the last second into the snow almost running over a LEO.

Who "authorized deadly force" implies a conspiracy to kill Finicrum, LEO's are always authorized the use of deadly force to defend themselves and when an individual known to be armed is told to keep his hands up and instead yells "You will have to shoot me" and then reaches for a gun - there is no need to get "authorization" for deadly force. The authorization already exists under the law, you don't have to let someone shoot at you first before defending yourself.


>>>>

He didn't "approach" he was traveling about 70 mph and appeared to be ready to crash into the barricade swerving at the last second into the snow almost running over a LEO.


he was traveling 70 miles and hour in a 65 mile an hour zone

better go look at the tape again

stop your lying the cops said they shot at the truck when it redounded the corner

While being chased by police.

yes it is not too bright to shoot at the bad guys while your team mates are in line to be hit by arrant crossfire

it would be interesting to see if either one of the law enforcement trucks had bullet holes

it is really lucky that none of the cops accidentally shot each other

in their several crossfire actions

this will go down in the training journals as what not to do

Huh? Not a single officer was injured and everyone was peaceably arrested except for the one dumbass who made a motion to reach for a gun.

yes i said lucky didnt i

wonder how many police training manuals instruct an officer to shoot

at the bad guys while other folks like law enforcement are in the line of fire

And who said law enforcement was in the line of fire? And I'm still waiting for your quote of the cops who said that they fired on Finnicum's vehicle as he came around the corner.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Finicum had a meeting with the sheriff who was waiting on them. The troopers could have called into the Sheriffs Dept to confirm Finicum was telling the truth. It was crucial Finicum had to be at that meeting in order to avoid being executed by the feds.

What lunacy. People being arrested don't get to dictate to law enforcement.

People being arrested don't get to dictate to law enforcement

the rest of the group back at the site did

 

[jon_berzerk]

Though just to give a lovely contrast to how insanely irrational you are in your standards......when a 12 year old boy sitting on a swing was shot within 3 seconds of police arriving for reaching for a TOY gun, you said this:

This was the right decision made. The hard working white American taxpayer will be spared the burden of having his pocket book fleeced defending these patriots actions of ridding the country of a black feral criminal who would eventually rape white women and kill with no remorse or regard to human life.

Great Breaking News: Grand Jury Refuses To Indict White Police Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting

But when a 47 year old armed occupier who swore he wouldn't serve any time in a concrete box resists arrest, tries to run a police blockade, misses a LEO officer by inches, rushes from his truck and is shot reaching for a REAL gun...

....its a conspiracy.

If not for double standards, our white nationalist militia headjobs would have no standards at all.

Finicum never attempted to kill anyone. Finicum
never was seen with a gun. Finicum attempted to swerve from hitting a cop who was attempting to be purposely hit by Finicum. It's clear as night and day the cop ran towards the front of his truck instead of away from it.

actually all the other weapons they had was under the front seat of the truck

pretty hard to go on a shooting spree that way

 

[Skylar]

Though just to give a lovely contrast to how insanely irrational you are in your standards......when a 12 year old boy sitting on a swing was shot within 3 seconds of police arriving for reaching for a TOY gun, you said this:

This was the right decision made. The hard working white American taxpayer will be spared the burden of having his pocket book fleeced defending these patriots actions of ridding the country of a black feral criminal who would eventually rape white women and kill with no remorse or regard to human life.

Great Breaking News: Grand Jury Refuses To Indict White Police Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting

But when a 47 year old armed occupier who swore he wouldn't serve any time in a concrete box resists arrest, tries to run a police blockade, misses a LEO officer by inches, rushes from his truck and is shot reaching for a REAL gun...

....its a conspiracy.

If not for double standards, our white nationalist militia headjobs would have no standards at all.

Finicum never attempted to kill anyone. Finicum

Yeah, he was reaching for that gun in his pocket to use as a paper weight.

Again, your ilk was fucked the moment the video was released.

never was seen with a gun. Finicum attempted to swerve from hitting a cop who was attempting to be purposely hit by Finicum

You do realize that his interview on TV was titled '55 year old protestor with gun preparing for altercation', yes. That Lavoy gave an interview about *who he would point his gun at*.



And that they found a pistol on Lavoy and even more weapons and ammo back in his truck?

But Lavoy didn't have a gun, huh?

 

[Faun]

Sure you are, when you say things like "the state cops as well fired on the truck while it was a approaching who gave the shoot to kill orders that day" and "that is no reason to authorize deadly force".


He didn't "approach" he was traveling about 70 mph and appeared to be ready to crash into the barricade swerving at the last second into the snow almost running over a LEO.

Who "authorized deadly force" implies a conspiracy to kill Finicrum, LEO's are always authorized the use of deadly force to defend themselves and when an individual known to be armed is told to keep his hands up and instead yells "You will have to shoot me" and then reaches for a gun - there is no need to get "authorization" for deadly force. The authorization already exists under the law, you don't have to let someone shoot at you first before defending yourself.


>>>>

He didn't "approach" he was traveling about 70 mph and appeared to be ready to crash into the barricade swerving at the last second into the snow almost running over a LEO.


he was traveling 70 miles and hour in a 65 mile an hour zone

better go look at the tape again

stop your lying the cops said they shot at the truck when it redounded the corner

While being chased by police.

yes it is not too bright to shoot at the bad guys while your team mates are in line to be hit by arrant crossfire

it would be interesting to see if either one of the law enforcement trucks had bullet holes

it is really lucky that none of the cops accidentally shot each other

in their several crossfire actions

this will go down in the training journals as what not to do

Huh? Not a single officer was injured and everyone was peaceably arrested except for the one dumbass who made a motion to reach for a gun.

yes i said lucky didnt i

wonder how many police training manuals instruct an officer to shoot

at the bad guys while other folks like law enforcement are in the line of fire

Now you're reduced to making shit up.

Prove the officers in pursuit were in the line of fire.... post how far behind Finicum's vehicle they were ... prove they turned the corner in that bend in the road while shots were being fired...

 

[Skylar]

Though just to give a lovely contrast to how insanely irrational you are in your standards......when a 12 year old boy sitting on a swing was shot within 3 seconds of police arriving for reaching for a TOY gun, you said this:

This was the right decision made. The hard working white American taxpayer will be spared the burden of having his pocket book fleeced defending these patriots actions of ridding the country of a black feral criminal who would eventually rape white women and kill with no remorse or regard to human life.

Great Breaking News: Grand Jury Refuses To Indict White Police Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting

But when a 47 year old armed occupier who swore he wouldn't serve any time in a concrete box resists arrest, tries to run a police blockade, misses a LEO officer by inches, rushes from his truck and is shot reaching for a REAL gun...

....its a conspiracy.

If not for double standards, our white nationalist militia headjobs would have no standards at all.

Finicum never attempted to kill anyone. Finicum
never was seen with a gun. Finicum attempted to swerve from hitting a cop who was attempting to be purposely hit by Finicum. It's clear as night and day the cop ran towards the front of his truck instead of away from it.

actually all the other weapons they had was under the front seat of the truck

pretty hard to go on a shooting spree that way

The pistol wasn't in his truck. It was in the pocket he was reaching for. Twice.

This after Lavoy rushed a police blockade, missed hitting a LEO by *inches* and lead the cop on a high speed chase.

His shooting was utterly justified.

 

[Faun]

Though just to give a lovely contrast to how insanely irrational you are in your standards......when a 12 year old boy sitting on a swing was shot within 3 seconds of police arriving for reaching for a TOY gun, you said this:

This was the right decision made. The hard working white American taxpayer will be spared the burden of having his pocket book fleeced defending these patriots actions of ridding the country of a black feral criminal who would eventually rape white women and kill with no remorse or regard to human life.

Great Breaking News: Grand Jury Refuses To Indict White Police Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting

But when a 47 year old armed occupier who swore he wouldn't serve any time in a concrete box resists arrest, tries to run a police blockade, misses a LEO officer by inches, rushes from his truck and is shot reaching for a REAL gun...

....its a conspiracy.

If not for double standards, our white nationalist militia headjobs would have no standards at all.

Finicum never attempted to kill anyone. Finicum
never was seen with a gun. Finicum attempted to swerve from hitting a cop who was attempting to be purposely hit by Finicum. It's clear as night and day the cop ran towards the front of his truck instead of away from it.

Finicum is seen making a motion as if to reach for a weapon; while at the same time, ignoring a lawful instruction by the police to get down on the ground. That is all that is needed to justify blowing that dumbfuck away.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

tE="Steve_McGarrett, post: 13724151, member: 44457"]

Though just to give a lovely contrast to how insanely irrational you are in your standards......when a 12 year old boy sitting on a swing was shot within 3 seconds of police arriving for reaching for a TOY gun, you said this:

This was the right decision made. The hard working white American taxpayer will be spared the burden of having his pocket book fleeced defending these patriots actions of ridding the country of a black feral criminal who would eventually rape white women and kill with no remorse or regard to human life.

Great Breaking News: Grand Jury Refuses To Indict White Police Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting

But when a 47 year old armed occupier who swore he wouldn't serve any time in a concrete box resists arrest, tries to run a police blockade, misses a LEO officer by inches, rushes from his truck and is shot reaching for a REAL gun...

....its a conspiracy.

If not for double standards, our white nationalist militia headjobs would have no standards at all.

Finicum never attempted to kill anyone. Finicum
never was seen with a gun. Finicum attempted to swerve from hitting a cop who was attempting to be purposely hit by Finicum. It's clear as night and day the cop ran towards the front of his truck instead of away from it.

Finicum is seen making a motion as if to reach for a weapon; while at the same time, ignoring a lawful instruction by the police to get down on the ground. That is all that is needed to justify blowing that dumbfuck away.[/QUOTE]
He was making the motion because he had been tazed

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Oh my! Looks like big trouble:

Oregon Officials Call LaVoy Finicum Death “Disturbing”

New video from the Oregonian, Oregon’s largest newspaper, provides a dual view of the murder of LaVoy Finicum by federal agents and Oregon State Police. At no point did Mr. Finicum, or the passengers in his vehicle, pose a threat to the law enforcement officials who gunned down Finicum, and shot up the vehicle full of innocent and defenseless passengers. In a statement on Tuesday, Oregon Governor Kate Brown said, “Any loss of life is regrettable, and I appreciate that the independent investigation into the actions of Oregon State Police was completed swiftly and thoroughly. . . Additional questions the investigation raised about the actions of federal agents who were also involved are troubling and properly the subject of an ongoing investigation.”

Oregon’s lone Republican in the U.S. Congress, Representative Greg Walden (R-Hood River), issued the following statement regarding the independent investigation into the circumstances surrounding the death of LaVoy Finicum: “This independent investigation gives us some answers to what happened, but leaves me disturbed and bewildered by the role of the FBI agents who are now under federal investigation themselves.

 

[Skylar]

He was making the motion because he had been tazed

Says who?

 

[Skylar]

Oh my! Looks like big trouble:

Oregon Officials Call LaVoy Finicum Death “Disturbing”

New video from the Oregonian, Oregon’s largest newspaper, provides a dual view of the murder of LaVoy Finicum by federal agents and Oregon State Police. At no point did Mr. Finicum, or the passengers in his vehicle, pose a threat to the law enforcement officials who gunned down Finicum, and shot up the vehicle full of innocent and defenseless passengers. In a statement on Tuesday, Oregon Governor Kate Brown said, “Any loss of life is regrettable, and I appreciate that the independent investigation into the actions of Oregon State Police was completed swiftly and thoroughly. . . Additional questions the investigation raised about the actions of federal agents who were also involved are troubling and properly the subject of an ongoing investigation.”

Oregon’s lone Republican in the U.S. Congress, Representative Greg Walden (R-Hood River), issued the following statement regarding the independent investigation into the circumstances surrounding the death of LaVoy Finicum: “This independent investigation gives us some answers to what happened, but leaves me disturbed and bewildered by the role of the FBI agents who are now under federal investigation themselves.

Uh-oh....looks like you didn't read your own source.

The part you highlighted....isn't Oregon officials. Its op-ed from Douglas V. Gibbs from the Canada Free Press......a right wing Canadian website.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Though just to give a lovely contrast to how insanely irrational you are in your standards......when a 12 year old boy sitting on a swing was shot within 3 seconds of police arriving for reaching for a TOY gun, you said this:

This was the right decision made. The hard working white American taxpayer will be spared the burden of having his pocket book fleeced defending these patriots actions of ridding the country of a black feral criminal who would eventually rape white women and kill with no remorse or regard to human life.

Great Breaking News: Grand Jury Refuses To Indict White Police Officers In Tamir Rice Shooting

But when a 47 year old armed occupier who swore he wouldn't serve any time in a concrete box resists arrest, tries to run a police blockade, misses a LEO officer by inches, rushes from his truck and is shot reaching for a REAL gun...

....its a conspiracy.

If not for double standards, our white nationalist militia headjobs would have no standards at all.

Finicum never attempted to kill anyone. Finicum
never was seen with a gun. Finicum attempted to swerve from hitting a cop who was attempting to be purposely hit by Finicum. It's clear as night and day the cop ran towards the front of his truck instead of away from it.

actually all the other weapons they had was under the front seat of the truck

pretty hard to go on a shooting spree that way

The pistol wasn't in his truck. It was in the pocket he was reaching for. Twice.

This after Lavoy rushed a police blockade, missed hitting a LEO by *inches* and lead the cop on a high speed chase.

His shooting was utterly justified.

At no point can Finicum being heard in the truck, after leaving the first road block, ('recorded by the girls cell phone) talking or plotting about killing any cop or anyone else, only just about getting to the sheriff.