Law abiding black man uses legal gun to defend himself from five white racists who tried to kill him

[XponentialChaos]

Can someone please check on Ray From Cleveland.

He seems to have gone missing for some mysterious reason.

Sorry, some of us don't have all day to sit on USMB. I actually have things to do. Call outs are against USMB policies BTW.

Oh there you are. I was worried.

See the social media post I showed you.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ray From Cleveland

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This is what one of them posted on social media. Yea, they sure are non-political.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Ray From Cleveland

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This is what one of them posted on social media. Yea, they sure are non-political.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Amid Protests, Majorities Across Racial and Ethnic Groups Express Support for the Black Lives Matter Movement

As demonstrations continue across the country to protest the death of George Floyd, a black man killed while in Minneapolis police custody, Americans see the protests both as a reaction to Floyd’s death and an expression of frustration over longstanding issues.

www.pewsocialtrends.org

Donny Richard Salyers

Donny Richard Salyers is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Donny Richard Salyers and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.

www.facebook.com

 

[bluzman61]

Can someone please check on Ray From Cleveland.

He seems to have gone missing for some mysterious reason.

Sorry, some of us don't have all day to sit on USMB. I actually have things to do. Call outs are against USMB policies BTW.

Oh there you are. I was worried.

See the social media post I showed you.

And DON'T forget that wonderful spinach quiche!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm 100% in favor of self defense.

I'm 100% against murder.

I'm glad that this law abiding black man used his legal gun to defend himself from five white racists who were trying to murder him.

Black pastor arrested after calling 911 on people who allegedly attacked him; sheriff apologizes

He was arrested after calling 911 on a group of white people who allegedly threatened to kill him.

www.cbs46.com

Black pastor arrested after calling 911 on people who allegedly attacked him; sheriff apologizes

By Associated Press

June 15, 2020

From left: Amanda Salyers, Farrah Salyers, Donny Salyers, Christopher Sharp, Dennis Salyers. They are being held without bond and face hate crime and assault charges after an altercation with a black pastor in Edinburg, Va., this month.

WOODSTOCK, Va. (AP) — A sheriff in Virginia has apologized to a black pastor in Virginia who was arrested after calling 911 on a group of white people who threatened to kill him after trying to dump a refrigerator on his property.

Shenandoah County Sheriff Timothy Carter made the apology to Leon K. McCray Sr. of Woodstock Friday, announcing hate crime and assault charges against the five people involved and saying a weapons charge against the pastor would be dropped.

McCray described the events leading to his arrest in a sermon to parishioners at Lighthouse Church & Marketplace Ministries International.

He said he was visiting an apartment he owns in Edinburg on June 1 when he noticed a man and a woman dragging a refrigerator from another property into his dumpster, and they became irate when he asked them to leave.

McCray said they threatened him and returned with three more people, attacking him physically, saying “they don’t give a darn” about “my black life and the Black Lives Matter stuff,” and telling him they would “kill” him.

McCray said they backed up when he drew his legal concealed weapon to “save” his life, giving him enough time to call 911. Arriving deputies then took his gun while talking with the five, who continued threatening and yelling racist epithets at him.

Those are some mangy looking red necks. Preacher did well. Having it probably saved him an asswhipping, and he didn't have to shoot anybody. Good job.

In most all cases involving a CCW holder, shots are not fired.

Yeo. Far better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Usually easier prey available than picking a guy that happens to have one.

Yep, and that's why I carry mine anytime past sundown.

Proud of ya. I do too and I don't even live in a big metropolitan city.

It can get pretty dangerous at times here past dark. When I attend a family doing and know I'll be driving home past dark, that piece is right on my passenger seat ready to go. Every time I read of a lowlife car jacking some elderly lady or something, I keep asking God: Why? Why not me for crying out loud????

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

"McCray said they threatened him and returned with three more people, attacking him physically, saying “they don’t give a darn” about “my black life and the Black Lives Matter stuff,” and telling him they would “kill” him."

White trash conservatives.

I read the article twice. I didn't see anything about politics or political affiliation involved.

The people who despise BLM are likely conservatives.

You mean that only conservatives are for law abiding citizens and laws?

No. I mean exactly what I said.

Read it again.

Well I think you're kidding yourself if you think every liberal stands behind BLM. Yes, I know the MSM likes to portray it that way, but I can assure you that's not the case. Judging by the looks of these guys, it's likely they don't have any political affiliation or stance at all.

I didn't say every liberal, genius.

They're clearly political. They spoke negatively of BLM. And it's mostly conservatives who hold those views.

I can assure you with the problems that group has caused, there are likely a good amount of people on the left that don't support them either. So these people could be anything including apolitical. The Pastor had a CCW. Does that mean he was a conservative? Liberals don't get CCWs, do they?????

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

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Again, the people who despise BLM are likely conservatives. Just like you.

I do despise BLM, but not because of politics, but because I'm a decent law abiding taxpaying citizen. I don't buy into polls, especially ones that are posted with no source.

 

[XponentialChaos]

"McCray said they threatened him and returned with three more people, attacking him physically, saying “they don’t give a darn” about “my black life and the Black Lives Matter stuff,” and telling him they would “kill” him."

White trash conservatives.

I read the article twice. I didn't see anything about politics or political affiliation involved.

The people who despise BLM are likely conservatives.

You mean that only conservatives are for law abiding citizens and laws?

No. I mean exactly what I said.

Read it again.

Well I think you're kidding yourself if you think every liberal stands behind BLM. Yes, I know the MSM likes to portray it that way, but I can assure you that's not the case. Judging by the looks of these guys, it's likely they don't have any political affiliation or stance at all.

I didn't say every liberal, genius.

They're clearly political. They spoke negatively of BLM. And it's mostly conservatives who hold those views.

I can assure you with the problems that group has caused, there are likely a good amount of people on the left that don't support them either. So these people could be anything including apolitical. The Pastor had a CCW. Does that mean he was a conservative? Liberals don't get CCWs, do they?????

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

View attachment 352290

Again, the people who despise BLM are likely conservatives. Just like you.

I do despise BLM, but not because of politics, but because I'm a decent law abiding taxpaying citizen. I don't buy into polls, especially ones that are posted with no source.

Pew Research. I posted the link.

You despise BLM and you're a conservative. That's exactly what the data shows. Mudwhistle is another one.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If this Pastor had a valid CCW license, what did they arrest him for? He did nothing wrong. I can't find exactly what charge they used in order to justify an arrest.

Brandishing a firearm. I believe this may be an example of what people would call white privilege.

There are no laws against brandishing a firearm unless you pull one out in front of a cop. This is especially true of a CCW holder. There has to be a charge of some kind, and I didn't see what the exact charge was.

Isn't this the law against brandishing?

Title 18.2. Crimes and Offenses Generally

law.lis.virginia.gov

It's in the original article:
They wouldn't let him tell his side, he said; instead, he was “handcuffed in front of the mob,” for brandishing the handgun, and was driven away in handcuffs while the group stood with other deputies, waving at him as he went down the road.

So I clicked your link, and you must have missed this part:

However, this section shall not apply to any person engaged in excusable or justifiable self-defense.

Assuming that this story is reported honestly, they couldn't have arrested him for that. So there is still something here that's not being reported.

 

[colfax_m]

If this Pastor had a valid CCW license, what did they arrest him for? He did nothing wrong. I can't find exactly what charge they used in order to justify an arrest.

Brandishing a firearm. I believe this may be an example of what people would call white privilege.

There are no laws against brandishing a firearm unless you pull one out in front of a cop. This is especially true of a CCW holder. There has to be a charge of some kind, and I didn't see what the exact charge was.

Isn't this the law against brandishing?

Title 18.2. Crimes and Offenses Generally

law.lis.virginia.gov

It's in the original article:
They wouldn't let him tell his side, he said; instead, he was “handcuffed in front of the mob,” for brandishing the handgun, and was driven away in handcuffs while the group stood with other deputies, waving at him as he went down the road.

So I clicked your link, and you must have missed this part:

However, this section shall not apply to any person engaged in excusable or justifiable self-defense.

Assuming that this story is reported honestly, they couldn't have arrested him for that. So there is still something here that's not being reported.

The police can basically do anything they want. What you meant to say is that they SHOULDN'T have arrested him for that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

"McCray said they threatened him and returned with three more people, attacking him physically, saying “they don’t give a darn” about “my black life and the Black Lives Matter stuff,” and telling him they would “kill” him."

White trash conservatives.

I read the article twice. I didn't see anything about politics or political affiliation involved.

The people who despise BLM are likely conservatives.

You mean that only conservatives are for law abiding citizens and laws?

No. I mean exactly what I said.

Read it again.

Well I think you're kidding yourself if you think every liberal stands behind BLM. Yes, I know the MSM likes to portray it that way, but I can assure you that's not the case. Judging by the looks of these guys, it's likely they don't have any political affiliation or stance at all.

I didn't say every liberal, genius.

They're clearly political. They spoke negatively of BLM. And it's mostly conservatives who hold those views.

I can assure you with the problems that group has caused, there are likely a good amount of people on the left that don't support them either. So these people could be anything including apolitical. The Pastor had a CCW. Does that mean he was a conservative? Liberals don't get CCWs, do they?????

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

View attachment 352290

Again, the people who despise BLM are likely conservatives. Just like you.

I do despise BLM, but not because of politics, but because I'm a decent law abiding taxpaying citizen. I don't buy into polls, especially ones that are posted with no source.

Pew Research. I posted the link.

You despise BLM and you're a conservative. That's exactly what the data shows. Mudwhistle is another one.

Must be something wrong with my computer or USMB, because there is no link to that poll in your post.

 

[miketx]

I'm 100% in favor of self defense.

I'm 100% against murder.

I'm glad that this law abiding black man used his legal gun to defend himself from five white racists who were trying to murder him.

Black pastor arrested after calling 911 on people who allegedly attacked him; sheriff apologizes

He was arrested after calling 911 on a group of white people who allegedly threatened to kill him.

www.cbs46.com

Black pastor arrested after calling 911 on people who allegedly attacked him; sheriff apologizes

By Associated Press

June 15, 2020

From left: Amanda Salyers, Farrah Salyers, Donny Salyers, Christopher Sharp, Dennis Salyers. They are being held without bond and face hate crime and assault charges after an altercation with a black pastor in Edinburg, Va., this month.

WOODSTOCK, Va. (AP) — A sheriff in Virginia has apologized to a black pastor in Virginia who was arrested after calling 911 on a group of white people who threatened to kill him after trying to dump a refrigerator on his property.

Shenandoah County Sheriff Timothy Carter made the apology to Leon K. McCray Sr. of Woodstock Friday, announcing hate crime and assault charges against the five people involved and saying a weapons charge against the pastor would be dropped.

McCray described the events leading to his arrest in a sermon to parishioners at Lighthouse Church & Marketplace Ministries International.

He said he was visiting an apartment he owns in Edinburg on June 1 when he noticed a man and a woman dragging a refrigerator from another property into his dumpster, and they became irate when he asked them to leave.

McCray said they threatened him and returned with three more people, attacking him physically, saying “they don’t give a darn” about “my black life and the Black Lives Matter stuff,” and telling him they would “kill” him.

McCray said they backed up when he drew his legal concealed weapon to “save” his life, giving him enough time to call 911. Arriving deputies then took his gun while talking with the five, who continued threatening and yelling racist epithets at him.

I can't understand what makes all you loons cry racist over damn near everything that happens to a black man! Loons like you are fanning the flames. If it had been a lone white guy defending against 5 blacks we would not have heard a peep with the exception perhaps of fools like you calling for his arrest. Too bad the guy in the story didn't shoot all 5 of them.

 

[XponentialChaos]

"McCray said they threatened him and returned with three more people, attacking him physically, saying “they don’t give a darn” about “my black life and the Black Lives Matter stuff,” and telling him they would “kill” him."

White trash conservatives.

I read the article twice. I didn't see anything about politics or political affiliation involved.

The people who despise BLM are likely conservatives.

You mean that only conservatives are for law abiding citizens and laws?

No. I mean exactly what I said.

Read it again.

Well I think you're kidding yourself if you think every liberal stands behind BLM. Yes, I know the MSM likes to portray it that way, but I can assure you that's not the case. Judging by the looks of these guys, it's likely they don't have any political affiliation or stance at all.

I didn't say every liberal, genius.

They're clearly political. They spoke negatively of BLM. And it's mostly conservatives who hold those views.

I can assure you with the problems that group has caused, there are likely a good amount of people on the left that don't support them either. So these people could be anything including apolitical. The Pastor had a CCW. Does that mean he was a conservative? Liberals don't get CCWs, do they?????

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

View attachment 352290

Again, the people who despise BLM are likely conservatives. Just like you.

I do despise BLM, but not because of politics, but because I'm a decent law abiding taxpaying citizen. I don't buy into polls, especially ones that are posted with no source.

Pew Research. I posted the link.

You despise BLM and you're a conservative. That's exactly what the data shows. Mudwhistle is another one.

Must be something wrong with my computer or USMB, because there is no link to that poll in your post.

Here's the link.

Amid Protests, Majorities Across Racial and Ethnic Groups Express Support for the Black Lives Matter Movement

As demonstrations continue across the country to protest the death of George Floyd, a black man killed while in Minneapolis police custody, Americans see the protests both as a reaction to Floyd’s death and an expression of frustration over longstanding issues.

www.pewsocialtrends.org

 

[White 6]

I'm 100% in favor of self defense.

I'm 100% against murder.

I'm glad that this law abiding black man used his legal gun to defend himself from five white racists who were trying to murder him.

Black pastor arrested after calling 911 on people who allegedly attacked him; sheriff apologizes

He was arrested after calling 911 on a group of white people who allegedly threatened to kill him.

www.cbs46.com

Black pastor arrested after calling 911 on people who allegedly attacked him; sheriff apologizes

By Associated Press

June 15, 2020

From left: Amanda Salyers, Farrah Salyers, Donny Salyers, Christopher Sharp, Dennis Salyers. They are being held without bond and face hate crime and assault charges after an altercation with a black pastor in Edinburg, Va., this month.

WOODSTOCK, Va. (AP) — A sheriff in Virginia has apologized to a black pastor in Virginia who was arrested after calling 911 on a group of white people who threatened to kill him after trying to dump a refrigerator on his property.

Shenandoah County Sheriff Timothy Carter made the apology to Leon K. McCray Sr. of Woodstock Friday, announcing hate crime and assault charges against the five people involved and saying a weapons charge against the pastor would be dropped.

McCray described the events leading to his arrest in a sermon to parishioners at Lighthouse Church & Marketplace Ministries International.

He said he was visiting an apartment he owns in Edinburg on June 1 when he noticed a man and a woman dragging a refrigerator from another property into his dumpster, and they became irate when he asked them to leave.

McCray said they threatened him and returned with three more people, attacking him physically, saying “they don’t give a darn” about “my black life and the Black Lives Matter stuff,” and telling him they would “kill” him.

McCray said they backed up when he drew his legal concealed weapon to “save” his life, giving him enough time to call 911. Arriving deputies then took his gun while talking with the five, who continued threatening and yelling racist epithets at him.

Those are some mangy looking red necks. Preacher did well. Having it probably saved him an asswhipping, and he didn't have to shoot anybody. Good job.

In most all cases involving a CCW holder, shots are not fired.

Yeo. Far better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Usually easier prey available than picking a guy that happens to have one.

Yep, and that's why I carry mine anytime past sundown.

Proud of ya. I do too and I don't even live in a big metropolitan city.

It can get pretty dangerous at times here past dark. When I attend a family doing and know I'll be driving home past dark, that piece is right on my passenger seat ready to go. Every time I read of a lowlife car jacking some elderly lady or something, I keep asking God: Why? Why not me for crying out loud????

Careful what you ask for. He sometime says, "Eh, OK"

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ray From Cleveland

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This is what one of them posted on social media. Yea, they sure are non-political.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Amid Protests, Majorities Across Racial and Ethnic Groups Express Support for the Black Lives Matter Movement

As demonstrations continue across the country to protest the death of George Floyd, a black man killed while in Minneapolis police custody, Americans see the protests both as a reaction to Floyd’s death and an expression of frustration over longstanding issues.

www.pewsocialtrends.org

Donny Richard Salyers

Donny Richard Salyers is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Donny Richard Salyers and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.

www.facebook.com

I went to your Slayer link. His cover photo was with him and several black people, which I'm assuming is part of his family since there was a white woman holding a Mulatto baby. I scrolled back to 2016, and nowhere did I see the Ted Nugent post.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Ray From Cleveland

View attachment 352309

This is what one of them posted on social media. Yea, they sure are non-political.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Amid Protests, Majorities Across Racial and Ethnic Groups Express Support for the Black Lives Matter Movement

As demonstrations continue across the country to protest the death of George Floyd, a black man killed while in Minneapolis police custody, Americans see the protests both as a reaction to Floyd’s death and an expression of frustration over longstanding issues.

www.pewsocialtrends.org

Donny Richard Salyers

Donny Richard Salyers is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Donny Richard Salyers and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.

www.facebook.com

I went to your Slayer link. His cover photo was with him and several black people, which I'm assuming is part of his family since there was a white woman holding a Mulatto baby. I scrolled back to 2016, and nowhere did I see the Ted Nugent post.

December 2015.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ray From Cleveland

View attachment 352309

This is what one of them posted on social media. Yea, they sure are non-political.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Amid Protests, Majorities Across Racial and Ethnic Groups Express Support for the Black Lives Matter Movement

As demonstrations continue across the country to protest the death of George Floyd, a black man killed while in Minneapolis police custody, Americans see the protests both as a reaction to Floyd’s death and an expression of frustration over longstanding issues.

www.pewsocialtrends.org

Donny Richard Salyers

Donny Richard Salyers is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Donny Richard Salyers and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.

www.facebook.com

I went to your Slayer link. His cover photo was with him and several black people, which I'm assuming is part of his family since there was a white woman holding a Mulatto baby. I scrolled back to 2016, and nowhere did I see the Ted Nugent post.

December 2015.

Okay, so he posted a picture over 4 and a half years ago with Ted Nugent. All that really proves is he's pro-gun. A Republican? Probably, but not certain. Even if he was, what about the others?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm 100% in favor of self defense.

I'm 100% against murder.

I'm glad that this law abiding black man used his legal gun to defend himself from five white racists who were trying to murder him.

Black pastor arrested after calling 911 on people who allegedly attacked him; sheriff apologizes

He was arrested after calling 911 on a group of white people who allegedly threatened to kill him.

www.cbs46.com

Black pastor arrested after calling 911 on people who allegedly attacked him; sheriff apologizes

By Associated Press

June 15, 2020

From left: Amanda Salyers, Farrah Salyers, Donny Salyers, Christopher Sharp, Dennis Salyers. They are being held without bond and face hate crime and assault charges after an altercation with a black pastor in Edinburg, Va., this month.

WOODSTOCK, Va. (AP) — A sheriff in Virginia has apologized to a black pastor in Virginia who was arrested after calling 911 on a group of white people who threatened to kill him after trying to dump a refrigerator on his property.

Shenandoah County Sheriff Timothy Carter made the apology to Leon K. McCray Sr. of Woodstock Friday, announcing hate crime and assault charges against the five people involved and saying a weapons charge against the pastor would be dropped.

McCray described the events leading to his arrest in a sermon to parishioners at Lighthouse Church & Marketplace Ministries International.

He said he was visiting an apartment he owns in Edinburg on June 1 when he noticed a man and a woman dragging a refrigerator from another property into his dumpster, and they became irate when he asked them to leave.

McCray said they threatened him and returned with three more people, attacking him physically, saying “they don’t give a darn” about “my black life and the Black Lives Matter stuff,” and telling him they would “kill” him.

McCray said they backed up when he drew his legal concealed weapon to “save” his life, giving him enough time to call 911. Arriving deputies then took his gun while talking with the five, who continued threatening and yelling racist epithets at him.

Those are some mangy looking red necks. Preacher did well. Having it probably saved him an asswhipping, and he didn't have to shoot anybody. Good job.

In most all cases involving a CCW holder, shots are not fired.

Yeo. Far better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Usually easier prey available than picking a guy that happens to have one.

Yep, and that's why I carry mine anytime past sundown.

Proud of ya. I do too and I don't even live in a big metropolitan city.

It can get pretty dangerous at times here past dark. When I attend a family doing and know I'll be driving home past dark, that piece is right on my passenger seat ready to go. Every time I read of a lowlife car jacking some elderly lady or something, I keep asking God: Why? Why not me for crying out loud????

Careful what you ask for. He sometime says, "Eh, OK"

I'm hoping he does. I would rather me be a victim with lethal defense than some older lady who is defenseless.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Ray From Cleveland

View attachment 352309

This is what one of them posted on social media. Yea, they sure are non-political.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Amid Protests, Majorities Across Racial and Ethnic Groups Express Support for the Black Lives Matter Movement

As demonstrations continue across the country to protest the death of George Floyd, a black man killed while in Minneapolis police custody, Americans see the protests both as a reaction to Floyd’s death and an expression of frustration over longstanding issues.

www.pewsocialtrends.org

Donny Richard Salyers

Donny Richard Salyers is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Donny Richard Salyers and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.

www.facebook.com

I went to your Slayer link. His cover photo was with him and several black people, which I'm assuming is part of his family since there was a white woman holding a Mulatto baby. I scrolled back to 2016, and nowhere did I see the Ted Nugent post.

December 2015.

Okay, so he posted a picture over 4 and a half years ago with Ted Nugent. All that really proves is he's pro-gun. A Republican? Probably, but not certain. Even if he was, what about the others?

It says he likes pissing off liberals.

White trash conservatives. Like I said from the beginning.

 

[basquebromance]

It's time for us to go beyond hashtags and take action. It's really important that we vote, call our local representatives to demand change and make donations if you are not comfortable protesting. You can no longer surround yourself with people who think things are okay right now. It's more important than ever to hold people accountable if you want to see real change

 

[Drop Dead Fred]

The people who despise BLM are likely conservatives.

Yes.

And here are some examples: