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Dude, just admit you were wrong.
You said: "Stones, Jimi Hendix, Uriah Heep, and scores of others were already out and touring in 1965."
That's an untrue statement They were not touring, nor were the members of Uriah Heep out touring in other bands. In 1965 Mick Box was only 17. His first band was started in 1967.
You're only going to make yourself look more foolish by doubling down on this. Just sack up and admit you were wrong...
Led Zeppelin.
Based on talent, long term influence and record sales.
Led Zeppelin sold just under the same number of records as Beatles, But the Beatles produced 75 studio and compilation records. Led Zeppelin - 18.
So Led Zeppelin outsold Beatles by a long shot comparing apples to apples.
It's not even close.
Best band ever
And they were. Of course, you can't seem to admit musical markets were changing, and the Beatles merely changed theri image to keep up. They ended up stuck on Top Forty radio and an audience of adolescent girls and fem bois, while Dylan, the Stones, The Animals, the Kinks, etc. all turned out much better music; that's why you're trying to play lame 'gotcha games that don't address that.
Do you still wear your Beatle boots?
The ones you can never find?
When any of them are worth over $1 billion, like McCartney is, get back to me...
HAHAHA!
Yup, you're just an ignorant fool.
Uriah Heep, despite your assertion to the contrary, was not touring in 1965.
You're just too big a chickenshit pussy to admit you were wrong...
??When any of them are worth over $1 billion, like McCartney is, get back to me...
Yes, cuz it's how much they're worth that tells us how good they are. lol so you have everything Britney Spears has put out as well?
says the closet Beatles fag who dreams of blowing the whole band.
??
He made most of his money after the Beatles broke up.
The question was about Zeppelin vs. Beatles.
If you want to know, read about it. John Lennon was worth more than McCartney when he died.With who? Wings?
And I would be willing to bet that the bulk of his fortune is derived from Beatles music...
were those people out there or not?....jimi wasnt his own act yet was he?.....Uria Heep wasnt out there yet....why dont you quit trying to change what you said.....and the beatles were never my favorite group i liked the harder rock bands.....just admit you fucked up with your lame history lesson...And they were. Of course, you can't seem to admit musical markets were changing, and the Beatles merely changed theri image to keep up. They ended up stuck on Top Forty radio and an audience of adolescent girls and fem bois, while Dylan, the Stones, The Animals, the Kinks, etc. all turned out much better music; that's why you're trying to play lame 'gotcha games that don't address that.
Do you still wear your Beatle boots?
chas chandler was not the manager of the animals ...he was their bass player and saw hendrix play....he went into managing after the group broke up with hendrix.......He was known by other musicians as a good guitarist, which why Little Richard hired him. Do you really think he never played any of his own gigs when not playing on tour? They all played gigs as indies. The guy who managed the Animals took him on to better gigs based on knowing his work.
The Peanut Gallery can also note Motown was really taking off and taking market share as well; Barry Gordy had his own AM brodcast station that reached around his studios' block. He would never sign off on a song as finished until he went out and sat in his car and had them play it so he could listen on his car radio; he didn't give a shit one what it sounded liked in the studio. It was radio that sold records then.
If you loved the Beatles you probably love Milli Vanilli; they sold a lot of records too.
WTF is wrong with you? Are you alright? Weird Man. Weirdsays the closet Beatles fag who dreams of blowing the whole band.
WTF is wrong with you?
Bobby Orr was good, but Wayne Gretzky was the GOAT. Led Zep weren't even Bobby Orr, more like Phil Esposito.First off I have to say that I am an unapologetic Zep head, and get tired of hearing my whole life that the Beatles are the greatest rock band in history. But is this really true?
Led Zeppelin Vs. The Beatles
Who Is The Rock-N-Roll G.O.A.T.?
2nd off I want to say that the Beatles were a great band who were way ahead of their time. Their songs will ALWAYS be remembered as some of the greatest ever written. Someone would be hard pressed to find a greater collaboration as was the case with McCartney and Lennon.
I will state my case for Zeppelin below, and would love to hear yours.
The first thing that has to be looked at between these two great bands is with record sales. The Beatles have far more record sales than do Zeppelin, but their is more to this issue than meets the eye.
1. The Beatles released 19 studio albums. That's 10 more then Led Zeppelins 9 studio albums. It was a common practice in rock for a band to record an albums than go on tour for almost a year to promote it, than come off of the road, again record an album, than back on tour again etc..
The Beatles stopped touring in 1966, and this enabled them to release multiple albums in a year to everyone else's 1.
2. Singles. Who can possible count all of the 45 rpm records that the Beatles sold to millions of love struck teeny bopper girls. Led Zeppelin did not release singles. If you wanted to hear them you had to buy the album. Imo, this is what created what is referred to as album rock.
So, before record sales can be used to say who is the greatest of the two, than you have to remove 10 of the Beatles studio albums to match Zeppelins 9 studio albums. Also, you have to remove the millions and millions of 45 rpm records that the Beatles released because Zeppelin did not release singles.
The next issue I would say would be promotion. The Beatles were the most heavily promoted band in history. To this day I can't think of another band that came close. The Beatles name and images were on just about everything. Their were Beatles dresses, record players, wigs, stamps, key chains, guitars, mirrors, watches, pendants, bowling balls and on and on and on. 6 months before they came to America posters were plastered everywhere proclaiming The Beatles are coming!, The Beatles are coming!. Radio d.j.'s were almost non stop declaring the same thing.
In contrast Led Zeppelin were the complete opposite, and the least commercial band in history. They wanted their music to speak for them, and not some gimmick. They even refused to appear on television. Interviews with Zeppelin were rare. Their is an early interview though were John Bonham the Zep drummer points out that people went to see the Beatles live just to look at them. You couldn't even hear the ban play. But to Zeppelin it was about the music they and not the image.
The last thing would be about musicianship and talent. So, lets compare these bands with that in mind.
1. Singer. I really don't think even die hard Beatles fans would disagree that Robert Plant is a far greater singer than any one of the fab four.
2. Guitar. George Harrison was an awesome player, and much better after the Beatles broke up. However, Jimmy page is legendary. I have never seen a list of the greatest guitar play of all time that didn't have him at 1 or at least top 3.. He was a riff machine. I doubt there is a Harrison tune that page cannot play, and probably many Page pieces that Harrison just could not play.
3. Bass. I think Paul McCartney was a good bass player, even better than he got credit for. But was no match for John Paul Jones.
4. Drums. Do I even really have to point this out. John Bonham is considered the greatest rock drummer in history. He played an 11 piece kit and used every single piece of it. What he was able to do still has most pro drummers in awe of him. If you've never heard "Moby Dick" than I suggest you give it a listen. Ring Starr? I guess you could he took a 3 piece kit as far as you could take it, but he could have easily have been replaced and not have been missed.
Okay, I guess this is the end of my case that Led Zeppelin not the Beatles are indeed the Rock-N-Roll G.O.A.T.. Their 300 million album sales I would venture to say out sales the Beatles if you take what I said above and even the game up the way it should be done for a true measure of who the greatest are.
What do you say?
