Lefties explain our institutions are examples of Socialism; then cry that you dont know the meaning

[NYcarbineer]

Benefits? What benefits?

Benefits like not having to worry about medical bills if you need a doctor (socialist healthcare), knowing you'll be able to feed your children even if you only have a minimum wage job at wallmart (a guaranteed decent minimum wage), the chance to get a good education even if your parents aren't rich (free public education), not having to live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans if the "job creators" decide to move your job to China (social security and unemployment benefits) etc. etc.

I know, it's pure evil. If you start with things like that you'll end up like North Korea in no time.

YAWN; nothing you mentioned cant be accomplished through capitalism, through the system we have, or by other means. you mention food stamps. is that really mean we have socialism?

you clowns love to move the goal posts!!

How would you replace Medicaid with capitalism?

vouchers

too easy

Vouchers have nothing to do with capitalism. Government vouchers are taxpayer funded entitlements.

 

[bedowin62]

Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid have over ONE HUNDRED TRILLION in unfunded mandates

yes trillion

who is going to pay that back?

the people who pay taxes in our capitalist system

keep trying

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. you're saying all the institutions we have no are examples of socialism

you're clearly advocating for more of that

you are crying about being called Socialists??

lol

So your position is that we have no actual socialism in this country; you're calling people socialists because of what you imagine they want to do.

lol

 

[bedowin62]

Benefits? What benefits?

Benefits like not having to worry about medical bills if you need a doctor (socialist healthcare), knowing you'll be able to feed your children even if you only have a minimum wage job at wallmart (a guaranteed decent minimum wage), the chance to get a good education even if your parents aren't rich (free public education), not having to live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans if the "job creators" decide to move your job to China (social security and unemployment benefits) etc. etc.

I know, it's pure evil. If you start with things like that you'll end up like North Korea in no time.

YAWN; nothing you mentioned cant be accomplished through capitalism, through the system we have, or by other means. you mention food stamps. is that really mean we have socialism?

you clowns love to move the goal posts!!

How would you replace Medicaid with capitalism?

vouchers

too easy

Vouchers have nothing to do with capitalism. Government vouchers are taxpayer funded entitlements.

where did the taxpayer get his money dummy?

from our capitalist system;

try again

 

[bedowin62]

1. you're saying all the institutions we have no are examples of socialism

you're clearly advocating for more of that

you are crying about being called Socialists??

lol

So your position is that we have no actual socialism in this country; you're calling people socialists because of what you imagine they want to do.

lol

no dummy; because of what you say you want to do. dont put me in it

 

[Iceweasel]

Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid have over ONE HUNDRED TRILLION in unfunded mandates

yes trillion

who is going to pay that back?

the people who pay taxes in our capitalist system

keep trying

As long as there's one rich guy left they'll blame him and try to take his money. Unless he's a Democrat.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid have over ONE HUNDRED TRILLION in unfunded mandates

yes trillion

who is going to pay that back?

the people who pay taxes in our capitalist system

keep trying

Quit trying to change the subject. Who are the socialists in America and why are they socialists?

 

[bedowin62]

you cant back up anything you're saying

pathetic

 

[bedowin62]

Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid have over ONE HUNDRED TRILLION in unfunded mandates

yes trillion

who is going to pay that back?

the people who pay taxes in our capitalist system

keep trying

Quit trying to change the subject. Who are the socialists in America and why are they socialists?

how am i changing the subject?

where does "taxpayer-funded" programs get the money?

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. you're saying all the institutions we have no are examples of socialism

you're clearly advocating for more of that

you are crying about being called Socialists??

lol

So your position is that we have no actual socialism in this country; you're calling people socialists because of what you imagine they want to do.

lol

no dummy; because of what you say you want to do. dont put me in it

Well then what is actual socialism in our country? You can either identify it or not. If you can't identify it, you're taking the position there is none.

Which is it.

 

[bedowin62]

do more Americans work for the government, or for private capitalist companies?

 

[bedowin62]

1. you're saying all the institutions we have no are examples of socialism

you're clearly advocating for more of that

you are crying about being called Socialists??

lol

So your position is that we have no actual socialism in this country; you're calling people socialists because of what you imagine they want to do.

lol

no dummy; because of what you say you want to do. dont put me in it

Well then what is actual socialism in our country? You can either identify it or not. If you can't identify it, you're taking the position there is none.

Which is it.

i'm saying those programs dont equate to the US having a capitalist system dummy

what are you saying?

 

[NYcarbineer]

you cant back up anything you're saying

pathetic

Me? You're claiming there's socialism in the US but can't identify it. Every institution we point out to you as socialist,

you deny that it is, and then you turn around and claim we're putting words in your mouth when we say you don't believe there's any socialism in the US.

 

[bedowin62]

you keep trying and crying Carb

wow

 

[bedowin62]

you cant back up anything you're saying

pathetic

Me? You're claiming there's socialism in the US but can't identify it. Every institution we point out to you as socialist,

you deny that it is, and then you turn around and claim we're putting words in your mouth when we say you don't believe there's any socialism in the US.

NO YOU'RE saying those mean we have socialism

i didnt say that dummy

 

[bedowin62]

they are not socialist systems dummy; since the means to fund them came from taxes on capitalist ventures

try again

 

[bedowin62]

you're sinking

sinking........................

 

[Jantje_Smit]

i dont need ayn Rand slogans; you dont have an argument. if it is your position tha we already have soclialism on account of the existence of the things you mentioned; then what is the Left advocating for more of?

Eh, you don't have the things I mentioned.

That's exactly the problem with you tea cultists, you're in complete denial.

 

[NYcarbineer]

do more Americans work for the government, or for private capitalist companies?

Irrelevant. Socialism can exist in certain sectors and not in others.

Here's a widely held conservative view, as expressed by Bill O'Reilly, on Obamacare:

"Obamacare is a pure income redistribution play," O'Reilly said. "Income redistribution is a hallmark of socialism and we in America are now moving in that direction."

Is he right or wrong? Are they many who agree with him right or wrong?

LINK

 

[bedowin62]

i dont need ayn Rand slogans; you dont have an argument. if it is your position tha we already have soclialism on account of the existence of the things you mentioned; then what is the Left advocating for more of?

Eh, you don't have the things I mentioned.

That's exactly the problem with you tea cultists, you're in complete denial.

what am i in denial about idiot?

they arent socialists if capitalists funded them