Leftists Now Clamoring To Get Guns And Finding Out It's Not That Easy

[Daryl Hunt]

We have UBC here in Colorado and the NRA contested it in court in 2013 and lost. Hence, court challenge and it stands. MOST Americans agree with a UBC for the entire US. But I agree that it should be left up to the states. It's a states right. Unless a State misuses their either lack of UBC or their UBC. And then it becomes a Federal problem.

How did Colorado have all those mass shootings if "universal background checks" work?
A case in point: According to the Gun Violence Archive, there have been 24 mass shootings in Colorado, nine of them in Denver, during the past six years, and the majority are likely to be unfamiliar to the average person. All of them are listed below, complete with links to additional archive information and previous Westword coverage.
Inside Colorado's 24 Mass Shootings During the Last Six Years

Don't fall for the Gun Violence Archive....

According to mother jones there were a grand total of 10 mass public shootings in 2019......the Gun Violence ARchive throws in every shooting in the news......all except those 10 are gang related or criminals being criminasl shooting at other criminals..........that is how they get that number up.....lying to the uninformed about the chance of being caught in a mass public shootings.

If his argument is universal background Checks stop shootings we must use their own sources against them to show nothing they do can stop shootings. They can't have it both ways

Do you mean that it's a pure coincidence that the violent gun crimes went down slowly after we enacted our common sense gun laws? The Gun Owners were held to responsibility and they lived up to it. It just wasn't the UBCs, it was more than that. The UBC was just part of it. And we can still buy a gun in less than 5 minutes in a Gun Shop if we want one.

So now you move the goal post by switching the targeted word to violent crime? ok
Colorado Crime Rates 1960 - 2018
2014 5,355,588 152,276 16,487 135,789 150 2,236 3,037 10,211 23,502 99,688 12,599
2015 5,448,819 161,392 17,348 144,044 173 2,422 3,315 10,532 23,490 104,532 16,022
2016 5,530,105 171,176 19,030 152,146 189 3,635 3,525 11,681 23,825 108,680 19,641
2017 5,615,902 172,933 20,901 152,032 222 4,021 3,868 12,790 22,618 107,470 21,944
2018 5,695,564 174,787 22,624 152,163 210 4,070 3,797 14,547 21,371 109,119 21,673
Muder went up violent crimes went up Rape went up robbery went up

You don't figure in the population inflation. And if you didn't notice, the murder rate went down in 2018 even with the increase in population. And as usual, you are taking ALL violent deaths and calling them firearm deaths. Colorado has had a decrease in firearm murders starting in 2015. But the way you present it doesn't show that. There are knifings, baseball bats, vehicular homicides and more figured in. And you left out the fact that even with 170 violent deaths in 2018 it's still not even close to many states for just one month. Even Deep Red States like Alabama.

Alabama Crime Rate
shows that in 2017, Alabama had over 17,000 Homicides. With that rate, the population is smaller in Alabama than in Colorado with a whopping 170 for 2018. Alabama has the 2nd highest gun homicide rate in the nation. Your Deep Red States are downright Vioent.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Don't fall for the Gun Violence Archive....

According to mother jones there were a grand total of 10 mass public shootings in 2019......the Gun Violence ARchive throws in every shooting in the news......all except those 10 are gang related or criminals being criminasl shooting at other criminals..........that is how they get that number up.....lying to the uninformed about the chance of being caught in a mass public shootings.

If his argument is universal background Checks stop shootings we must use their own sources against them to show nothing they do can stop shootings. They can't have it both ways

I don't disagree...just don't call them mass public shootings...that is how they lie...

They know that the average American can understand gang violence, and that gang violence is confined to small areas of democrat party controlled cities......so the anti-gun movement gets very little traction using them to call for gun bans....

Normal Americans understand the concept of a lone nut, walking into a mall or a school and shooting people......but what they don't understand is that it only happened 10 times in 2019.....making it the most rare of rare events.........but.....the anti-gun extremists know they can exploit it if they make it seem like normal Americans really have to worry about them......

So they lie, and mix gang shootings with mass public shootings....

I call them mass shootings and force the anti gunner that wants common-sense gun laws to defend their beliefs against real-life events
Universal background checks should end all gun crime and take guns out of the hands of gangbangers

There is only one way to get the guns out of the hands of the gangbangers and that is to kill them on sight. But there is a pesty little thing called the Constitution of the United States that gets in the way. Even a gangbanger has some rights. BTW, the Gangbangers have been reduced since it's harder for them to replace their guns when they get confiscated. But they are criminals so they will always find a way. But let's not make it so damned easy for them. In 2016, there were over 600,000 background checks done in Colorado. Out of those, 127 Felons where bagged and sent back to prison for trying to get weapons at gun shops. They failed the Background Checks, the Gun Shop immediately called the cops before they left the shop and the were apprehended leaving the shop. That's 127 violent criminals that were taken off the street. There is no way to tell how many lives that saved but one can surmise that it saved at least one and that made it worth it..

The bill of rights is part of the Constitution the second amendment dictates shall not be infringed meaning the government cannot restrict guns from law-abiding citizens which you want to do. You can't pick and choose but you seem to be trying to do that very thing.

Yes, and the Feds aren't allowed to infringe. But the states are not held to the same condition. And that has been upheld in many Federal Courts in Modern Times. The only gun that cannot be highly regulated is handguns with reasonable cartridge capacity as per Heller V. You need to find a better way of handling this.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How did Colorado have all those mass shootings if "universal background checks" work?
A case in point: According to the Gun Violence Archive, there have been 24 mass shootings in Colorado, nine of them in Denver, during the past six years, and the majority are likely to be unfamiliar to the average person. All of them are listed below, complete with links to additional archive information and previous Westword coverage.
Inside Colorado's 24 Mass Shootings During the Last Six Years

Don't fall for the Gun Violence Archive....

According to mother jones there were a grand total of 10 mass public shootings in 2019......the Gun Violence ARchive throws in every shooting in the news......all except those 10 are gang related or criminals being criminasl shooting at other criminals..........that is how they get that number up.....lying to the uninformed about the chance of being caught in a mass public shootings.

If his argument is universal background Checks stop shootings we must use their own sources against them to show nothing they do can stop shootings. They can't have it both ways

Do you mean that it's a pure coincidence that the violent gun crimes went down slowly after we enacted our common sense gun laws? The Gun Owners were held to responsibility and they lived up to it. It just wasn't the UBCs, it was more than that. The UBC was just part of it. And we can still buy a gun in less than 5 minutes in a Gun Shop if we want one.

So now you move the goal post by switching the targeted word to violent crime? ok
Colorado Crime Rates 1960 - 2018
2014 5,355,588 152,276 16,487 135,789 150 2,236 3,037 10,211 23,502 99,688 12,599
2015 5,448,819 161,392 17,348 144,044 173 2,422 3,315 10,532 23,490 104,532 16,022
2016 5,530,105 171,176 19,030 152,146 189 3,635 3,525 11,681 23,825 108,680 19,641
2017 5,615,902 172,933 20,901 152,032 222 4,021 3,868 12,790 22,618 107,470 21,944
2018 5,695,564 174,787 22,624 152,163 210 4,070 3,797 14,547 21,371 109,119 21,673
Muder went up violent crimes went up Rape went up robbery went up

You don't figure in the population inflation. And if you didn't notice, the murder rate went down in 2018 even with the increase in population. And as usual, you are taking ALL violent deaths and calling them firearm deaths. Colorado has had a decrease in firearm murders starting in 2015. But the way you present it doesn't show that. There are knifings, baseball bats, vehicular homicides and more figured in. And you left out the fact that even with 170 violent deaths in 2018 it's still not even close to many states for just one month. Even Deep Red States like Alabama.

Alabama Crime Rate
shows that in 2017, Alabama had over 17,000 Homicides. With that rate, the population is smaller in Alabama than in Colorado with a whopping 170 for 2018. Alabama has the 2nd highest gun homicide rate in the nation. Your Deep Red States are downright Vioent.

Dodge and dive you said violent gun crime dropped. It didn't as a matter of fact any crime committed with a gun is violent.
furthermore dumbass we're not talking about Alabama we are talkin about Colorado stupid son of a b****

 

[Uncensored2008]

You don't figure in the population inflation. And if you didn't notice, the murder rate went down in 2018 even with the increase in population. And as usual, you are taking ALL violent deaths and calling them firearm deaths. Colorado has had a decrease in firearm murders starting in 2015. But the way you present it doesn't show that. There are knifings, baseball bats, vehicular homicides and more figured in. And you left out the fact that even with 170 violent deaths in 2018 it's still not even close to many states for just one month. Even Deep Red States like Alabama.

Alabama Crime Rate
shows that in 2017, Alabama had over 17,000 Homicides. With that rate, the population is smaller in Alabama than in Colorado with a whopping 170 for 2018. Alabama has the 2nd highest gun homicide rate in the nation. Your Deep Red States are downright Vioent.

Wazzup Mike Hunt?

Have you walked into Walmart and picked up your AR14 with a 1000 clip magazine yet? No ID or anything needed. Send your children in, they're by the checkout registers. Grab a dozen.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If his argument is universal background Checks stop shootings we must use their own sources against them to show nothing they do can stop shootings. They can't have it both ways

I don't disagree...just don't call them mass public shootings...that is how they lie...

They know that the average American can understand gang violence, and that gang violence is confined to small areas of democrat party controlled cities......so the anti-gun movement gets very little traction using them to call for gun bans....

Normal Americans understand the concept of a lone nut, walking into a mall or a school and shooting people......but what they don't understand is that it only happened 10 times in 2019.....making it the most rare of rare events.........but.....the anti-gun extremists know they can exploit it if they make it seem like normal Americans really have to worry about them......

So they lie, and mix gang shootings with mass public shootings....

I call them mass shootings and force the anti gunner that wants common-sense gun laws to defend their beliefs against real-life events
Universal background checks should end all gun crime and take guns out of the hands of gangbangers

There is only one way to get the guns out of the hands of the gangbangers and that is to kill them on sight. But there is a pesty little thing called the Constitution of the United States that gets in the way. Even a gangbanger has some rights. BTW, the Gangbangers have been reduced since it's harder for them to replace their guns when they get confiscated. But they are criminals so they will always find a way. But let's not make it so damned easy for them. In 2016, there were over 600,000 background checks done in Colorado. Out of those, 127 Felons where bagged and sent back to prison for trying to get weapons at gun shops. They failed the Background Checks, the Gun Shop immediately called the cops before they left the shop and the were apprehended leaving the shop. That's 127 violent criminals that were taken off the street. There is no way to tell how many lives that saved but one can surmise that it saved at least one and that made it worth it..

The bill of rights is part of the Constitution the second amendment dictates shall not be infringed meaning the government cannot restrict guns from law-abiding citizens which you want to do. You can't pick and choose but you seem to be trying to do that very thing.

Yes, and the Feds aren't allowed to infringe. But the states are not held to the same condition. And that has been upheld in many Federal Courts in Modern Times. The only gun that cannot be highly regulated is handguns with reasonable cartridge capacity as per Heller V. You need to find a better way of handling this.

The states can't infringe either ever heard of the 14th amendment section 1?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You don't figure in the population inflation. And if you didn't notice, the murder rate went down in 2018 even with the increase in population. And as usual, you are taking ALL violent deaths and calling them firearm deaths. Colorado has had a decrease in firearm murders starting in 2015. But the way you present it doesn't show that. There are knifings, baseball bats, vehicular homicides and more figured in. And you left out the fact that even with 170 violent deaths in 2018 it's still not even close to many states for just one month. Even Deep Red States like Alabama.

Alabama Crime Rate
shows that in 2017, Alabama had over 17,000 Homicides. With that rate, the population is smaller in Alabama than in Colorado with a whopping 170 for 2018. Alabama has the 2nd highest gun homicide rate in the nation. Your Deep Red States are downright Vioent.

Wazzup Mike Hunt?

Have you walked into Walmart and picked up your AR14 with a 1000 clip magazine yet? No ID or anything needed. Send your children in, they're by the checkout registers. Grab a dozen.

Hey, stupid, there is no such thing as an AR14 and Walmart doesn't sell even the AR-15 no matter how many documents you have on you. You need to find some manners.
Time to thin the gene pool just a bit more. Have a nice day.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I don't disagree...just don't call them mass public shootings...that is how they lie...

They know that the average American can understand gang violence, and that gang violence is confined to small areas of democrat party controlled cities......so the anti-gun movement gets very little traction using them to call for gun bans....

Normal Americans understand the concept of a lone nut, walking into a mall or a school and shooting people......but what they don't understand is that it only happened 10 times in 2019.....making it the most rare of rare events.........but.....the anti-gun extremists know they can exploit it if they make it seem like normal Americans really have to worry about them......

So they lie, and mix gang shootings with mass public shootings....

I call them mass shootings and force the anti gunner that wants common-sense gun laws to defend their beliefs against real-life events
Universal background checks should end all gun crime and take guns out of the hands of gangbangers

There is only one way to get the guns out of the hands of the gangbangers and that is to kill them on sight. But there is a pesty little thing called the Constitution of the United States that gets in the way. Even a gangbanger has some rights. BTW, the Gangbangers have been reduced since it's harder for them to replace their guns when they get confiscated. But they are criminals so they will always find a way. But let's not make it so damned easy for them. In 2016, there were over 600,000 background checks done in Colorado. Out of those, 127 Felons where bagged and sent back to prison for trying to get weapons at gun shops. They failed the Background Checks, the Gun Shop immediately called the cops before they left the shop and the were apprehended leaving the shop. That's 127 violent criminals that were taken off the street. There is no way to tell how many lives that saved but one can surmise that it saved at least one and that made it worth it..

The bill of rights is part of the Constitution the second amendment dictates shall not be infringed meaning the government cannot restrict guns from law-abiding citizens which you want to do. You can't pick and choose but you seem to be trying to do that very thing.

Yes, and the Feds aren't allowed to infringe. But the states are not held to the same condition. And that has been upheld in many Federal Courts in Modern Times. The only gun that cannot be highly regulated is handguns with reasonable cartridge capacity as per Heller V. You need to find a better way of handling this.

The states can't infringe either ever heard of the 14th amendment section 1?

Glad you brought that one up. Did you read the part about the State doing Due Process? Let me explain that to you. Due process is done through legislation or judicial. Translation to firearms, that means if a state, county or city determines that they have a special need for a regulation then they have the right to use due process to regulate the firearm. Gee, isn't the Constitution of the United States a wonderful document.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You don't figure in the population inflation. And if you didn't notice, the murder rate went down in 2018 even with the increase in population. And as usual, you are taking ALL violent deaths and calling them firearm deaths. Colorado has had a decrease in firearm murders starting in 2015. But the way you present it doesn't show that. There are knifings, baseball bats, vehicular homicides and more figured in. And you left out the fact that even with 170 violent deaths in 2018 it's still not even close to many states for just one month. Even Deep Red States like Alabama.

Alabama Crime Rate
shows that in 2017, Alabama had over 17,000 Homicides. With that rate, the population is smaller in Alabama than in Colorado with a whopping 170 for 2018. Alabama has the 2nd highest gun homicide rate in the nation. Your Deep Red States are downright Vioent.

Wazzup Mike Hunt?

Have you walked into Walmart and picked up your AR14 with a 1000 clip magazine yet? No ID or anything needed. Send your children in, they're by the checkout registers. Grab a dozen.

Hey, stupid, there is no such thing as an AR14 and Walmart doesn't sell even the AR-15 no matter how many documents you have on you. You need to find some manners.
Time to thin the gene pool just a bit more. Have a nice day.

 

[2aguy]

If his argument is universal background Checks stop shootings we must use their own sources against them to show nothing they do can stop shootings. They can't have it both ways

I don't disagree...just don't call them mass public shootings...that is how they lie...

They know that the average American can understand gang violence, and that gang violence is confined to small areas of democrat party controlled cities......so the anti-gun movement gets very little traction using them to call for gun bans....

Normal Americans understand the concept of a lone nut, walking into a mall or a school and shooting people......but what they don't understand is that it only happened 10 times in 2019.....making it the most rare of rare events.........but.....the anti-gun extremists know they can exploit it if they make it seem like normal Americans really have to worry about them......

So they lie, and mix gang shootings with mass public shootings....

I call them mass shootings and force the anti gunner that wants common-sense gun laws to defend their beliefs against real-life events
Universal background checks should end all gun crime and take guns out of the hands of gangbangers

There is only one way to get the guns out of the hands of the gangbangers and that is to kill them on sight. But there is a pesty little thing called the Constitution of the United States that gets in the way. Even a gangbanger has some rights. BTW, the Gangbangers have been reduced since it's harder for them to replace their guns when they get confiscated. But they are criminals so they will always find a way. But let's not make it so damned easy for them. In 2016, there were over 600,000 background checks done in Colorado. Out of those, 127 Felons where bagged and sent back to prison for trying to get weapons at gun shops. They failed the Background Checks, the Gun Shop immediately called the cops before they left the shop and the were apprehended leaving the shop. That's 127 violent criminals that were taken off the street. There is no way to tell how many lives that saved but one can surmise that it saved at least one and that made it worth it..

The bill of rights is part of the Constitution the second amendment dictates shall not be infringed meaning the government cannot restrict guns from law-abiding citizens which you want to do. You can't pick and choose but you seem to be trying to do that very thing.

Yes, and the Feds aren't allowed to infringe. But the states are not held to the same condition. And that has been upheld in many Federal Courts in Modern Times. The only gun that cannot be highly regulated is handguns with reasonable cartridge capacity as per Heller V. You need to find a better way of handling this.

Hmmmmm.....how many times do you have to be told you are wrong....that at the very least, the Macdonald decision by the Supreme Court makes you wrong...

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The Supreme Court reversed the Seventh Circuit, holding that the Fourteenth Amendment makes the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms for the purpose of self-defense applicable to the states.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I call them mass shootings and force the anti gunner that wants common-sense gun laws to defend their beliefs against real-life events
Universal background checks should end all gun crime and take guns out of the hands of gangbangers

There is only one way to get the guns out of the hands of the gangbangers and that is to kill them on sight. But there is a pesty little thing called the Constitution of the United States that gets in the way. Even a gangbanger has some rights. BTW, the Gangbangers have been reduced since it's harder for them to replace their guns when they get confiscated. But they are criminals so they will always find a way. But let's not make it so damned easy for them. In 2016, there were over 600,000 background checks done in Colorado. Out of those, 127 Felons where bagged and sent back to prison for trying to get weapons at gun shops. They failed the Background Checks, the Gun Shop immediately called the cops before they left the shop and the were apprehended leaving the shop. That's 127 violent criminals that were taken off the street. There is no way to tell how many lives that saved but one can surmise that it saved at least one and that made it worth it..

The bill of rights is part of the Constitution the second amendment dictates shall not be infringed meaning the government cannot restrict guns from law-abiding citizens which you want to do. You can't pick and choose but you seem to be trying to do that very thing.

Yes, and the Feds aren't allowed to infringe. But the states are not held to the same condition. And that has been upheld in many Federal Courts in Modern Times. The only gun that cannot be highly regulated is handguns with reasonable cartridge capacity as per Heller V. You need to find a better way of handling this.

The states can't infringe either ever heard of the 14th amendment section 1?

Glad you brought that one up. Did you read the part about the State doing Due Process? Let me explain that to you. Due process is done through legislation or judicial. Translation to firearms, that means if a state, county or city determines that they have a special need for a regulation then they have the right to use due process to regulate the firearm. Gee, isn't the Constitution of the United States a wonderful document.

All American citizens have equal protected rights Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Google Search
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, Constitutional amendment

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The 14th amendment section 1 ........No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[OldLady]

When I stopped at the outdoor sports and supply store this weekend, ammo was being cleared out and a huge line to buy guns. All I could do was laugh.

Why? Are they going to shoot the virus? Or was everyone rushing to make their planned purchases before the store got closed by state order?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

There is only one way to get the guns out of the hands of the gangbangers and that is to kill them on sight. But there is a pesty little thing called the Constitution of the United States that gets in the way. Even a gangbanger has some rights. BTW, the Gangbangers have been reduced since it's harder for them to replace their guns when they get confiscated. But they are criminals so they will always find a way. But let's not make it so damned easy for them. In 2016, there were over 600,000 background checks done in Colorado. Out of those, 127 Felons where bagged and sent back to prison for trying to get weapons at gun shops. They failed the Background Checks, the Gun Shop immediately called the cops before they left the shop and the were apprehended leaving the shop. That's 127 violent criminals that were taken off the street. There is no way to tell how many lives that saved but one can surmise that it saved at least one and that made it worth it..

The bill of rights is part of the Constitution the second amendment dictates shall not be infringed meaning the government cannot restrict guns from law-abiding citizens which you want to do. You can't pick and choose but you seem to be trying to do that very thing.

Yes, and the Feds aren't allowed to infringe. But the states are not held to the same condition. And that has been upheld in many Federal Courts in Modern Times. The only gun that cannot be highly regulated is handguns with reasonable cartridge capacity as per Heller V. You need to find a better way of handling this.

The states can't infringe either ever heard of the 14th amendment section 1?

Glad you brought that one up. Did you read the part about the State doing Due Process? Let me explain that to you. Due process is done through legislation or judicial. Translation to firearms, that means if a state, county or city determines that they have a special need for a regulation then they have the right to use due process to regulate the firearm. Gee, isn't the Constitution of the United States a wonderful document.

All American citizens have equal protected rights Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Google Search
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, Constitutional amendment

You keep leaving out "without due process". The States have the ability to use due process, the Feds don't. The biggest problem with you rtwingnutjobs is you cry "Constitution" over and over but you only want to follow the parts that agrees with you and you leave out the things that don't. A true American follows the whole document, not just the parts that agree with us. You want to act like a Patriot, follow ALL of the Constitution like I do.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The bill of rights is part of the Constitution the second amendment dictates shall not be infringed meaning the government cannot restrict guns from law-abiding citizens which you want to do. You can't pick and choose but you seem to be trying to do that very thing.

Yes, and the Feds aren't allowed to infringe. But the states are not held to the same condition. And that has been upheld in many Federal Courts in Modern Times. The only gun that cannot be highly regulated is handguns with reasonable cartridge capacity as per Heller V. You need to find a better way of handling this.

The states can't infringe either ever heard of the 14th amendment section 1?

Glad you brought that one up. Did you read the part about the State doing Due Process? Let me explain that to you. Due process is done through legislation or judicial. Translation to firearms, that means if a state, county or city determines that they have a special need for a regulation then they have the right to use due process to regulate the firearm. Gee, isn't the Constitution of the United States a wonderful document.

All American citizens have equal protected rights Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Google Search
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, Constitutional amendment

You keep leaving out "without due process". The States have the ability to use due process, the Feds don't. The biggest problem with you rtwingnutjobs is you cry "Constitution" over and over but you only want to follow the parts that agrees with you and you leave out the things that don't. A true American follows the whole document, not just the parts that agree with us. You want to act like a Patriot, follow ALL of the Constitution like I do.

idiot all citizens in the U.S. have the same rights
due process is when someone commits a crime not when law makers create a law

 

[bigrebnc1775]

When I stopped at the outdoor sports and supply store this weekend, ammo was being cleared out and a huge line to buy guns. All I could do was laugh.

Why? Are they going to shoot the virus? Or was everyone rushing to make their planned purchases before the store got closed by state order?

new people buying guns need ammo
Old timers who have been through the gun and ammo run already have thousands of rounds and many firearms.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The 14th amendment section 1 ........No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

without due process of law

From the Encyclopedia Britannica

The meaning of due process as it relates to substantive enactments and procedural legislation has evolved over decades of controversial interpretation by the Supreme Court. Today, if a law may reasonably be deemed to promote the public welfare and the means selected bear a reasonable relationship to the legitimate public interest, then the law has met the due process standard. If the law seeks to regulate a fundamental right, such as the right to travel or the right to vote, then this enactment must meet a stricter judicial scrutiny, known as the compelling interest test. Economic legislation is generally upheld if the state can point to any conceivable public benefit resulting from its enactment.

Firearms fall can fall under Public Safety and therefore can fall under the due process clause of both the 5th and 14th ammendment.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The 14th amendment section 1 ........No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

without due process of law

From the Encyclopedia Britannica

The meaning of due process as it relates to substantive enactments and procedural legislation has evolved over decades of controversial interpretation by the Supreme Court. Today, if a law may reasonably be deemed to promote the public welfare and the means selected bear a reasonable relationship to the legitimate public interest, then the law has met the due process standard. If the law seeks to regulate a fundamental right, such as the right to travel or the right to vote, then this enactment must meet a stricter judicial scrutiny, known as the compelling interest test. Economic legislation is generally upheld if the state can point to any conceivable public benefit resulting from its enactment.

Firearms fall can fall under Public Safety and therefore can fall under the due process clause of both the 5th and 14th ammendment.

Firearms fall under the protection of the U.S. Constitution supreme law of the land supersedes state laws
Citizens of one state have the same rights as citizens of any state equal protection of the law

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Yes, and the Feds aren't allowed to infringe. But the states are not held to the same condition. And that has been upheld in many Federal Courts in Modern Times. The only gun that cannot be highly regulated is handguns with reasonable cartridge capacity as per Heller V. You need to find a better way of handling this.

The states can't infringe either ever heard of the 14th amendment section 1?

Glad you brought that one up. Did you read the part about the State doing Due Process? Let me explain that to you. Due process is done through legislation or judicial. Translation to firearms, that means if a state, county or city determines that they have a special need for a regulation then they have the right to use due process to regulate the firearm. Gee, isn't the Constitution of the United States a wonderful document.

All American citizens have equal protected rights Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Google Search
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, Constitutional amendment

You keep leaving out "without due process". The States have the ability to use due process, the Feds don't. The biggest problem with you rtwingnutjobs is you cry "Constitution" over and over but you only want to follow the parts that agrees with you and you leave out the things that don't. A true American follows the whole document, not just the parts that agree with us. You want to act like a Patriot, follow ALL of the Constitution like I do.

idiot all citizens in the U.S. have the same rights
due process is when someone commits a crime not when law makers create a law

Encyclopedia Britannica
The meaning of due process as it relates to substantive enactments and procedural legislation has evolved over decades of controversial interpretation by the Supreme Court. Today, if a law may reasonably be deemed to promote the public welfare and the means selected bear a reasonable relationship to the legitimate public interest, then the law has met the due process standard. If the law seeks to regulate a fundamental right, such as the right to travel or the right to vote, then this enactment must meet a stricter judicial scrutiny, known as the compelling interest test. Economic legislation is generally upheld if the state can point to any conceivable public benefit resulting from its enactment.

This can be done in one of three way. At the Voting Booths, the Legislature, and the Courts. And it applies to everyone not excluding criminals. If you look at what is going around you, you will see hundreds if not thousands of "Due Process" examples in your life.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The states can't infringe either ever heard of the 14th amendment section 1?

Glad you brought that one up. Did you read the part about the State doing Due Process? Let me explain that to you. Due process is done through legislation or judicial. Translation to firearms, that means if a state, county or city determines that they have a special need for a regulation then they have the right to use due process to regulate the firearm. Gee, isn't the Constitution of the United States a wonderful document.

All American citizens have equal protected rights Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Google Search
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, Constitutional amendment

You keep leaving out "without due process". The States have the ability to use due process, the Feds don't. The biggest problem with you rtwingnutjobs is you cry "Constitution" over and over but you only want to follow the parts that agrees with you and you leave out the things that don't. A true American follows the whole document, not just the parts that agree with us. You want to act like a Patriot, follow ALL of the Constitution like I do.

idiot all citizens in the U.S. have the same rights
due process is when someone commits a crime not when law makers create a law

Encyclopedia Britannica
The meaning of due process as it relates to substantive enactments and procedural legislation has evolved over decades of controversial interpretation by the Supreme Court. Today, if a law may reasonably be deemed to promote the public welfare and the means selected bear a reasonable relationship to the legitimate public interest, then the law has met the due process standard. If the law seeks to regulate a fundamental right, such as the right to travel or the right to vote, then this enactment must meet a stricter judicial scrutiny, known as the compelling interest test. Economic legislation is generally upheld if the state can point to any conceivable public benefit resulting from its enactment.

This can be done in one of three way. At the Voting Booths, the Legislature, and the Courts. And it applies to everyone not excluding criminals. If you look at what is going around you, you will see hundreds if not thousands of "Due Process" examples in your life.

Firearms fall under the protection of the U.S. Constitution supreme law of the land supersedes state laws
Citizens of one state have the same rights as citizens of any state equal protection of the law

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The 14th amendment section 1 ........No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

without due process of law

From the Encyclopedia Britannica

The meaning of due process as it relates to substantive enactments and procedural legislation has evolved over decades of controversial interpretation by the Supreme Court. Today, if a law may reasonably be deemed to promote the public welfare and the means selected bear a reasonable relationship to the legitimate public interest, then the law has met the due process standard. If the law seeks to regulate a fundamental right, such as the right to travel or the right to vote, then this enactment must meet a stricter judicial scrutiny, known as the compelling interest test. Economic legislation is generally upheld if the state can point to any conceivable public benefit resulting from its enactment.

Firearms fall can fall under Public Safety and therefore can fall under the due process clause of both the 5th and 14th ammendment.

Firearms fall under the protection of the U.S. Constitution supreme law of the land supersedes state laws
Citizens of one state have the same rights as citizens of any state equal protection of the law

Who's supreme law of the land? If you go by the Constitution, if due process is used by the state then firearm regulations ARE legal and they have been upheld by the Supreme Court. The one law that may have trouble passing the muster would be the 1934 Firearms Act because the Federals are not exempt according to the 5th amendment. But that was corrected with the 14th ammendment so that means that the 1934 Firearms Act is legal. As long as due process is used it will stand up in court because that's right out of the Constitution of the United States. If you don't like it, get it changed. Many have tried, few have succeeded.