Legalization...If 18 to 20 year olds can't drink, smoke or buy guns....

[Missourian]

When we legalize marijuana, will the Democrats demand a 21 year old age limit?

If not, why not? It is a form of smoking, is it not?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Voting need to go up too.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

They shouldn't be allowed to enter military service, get drafted, or vote, if they can't drink, smoke, or own guns, until they are 21.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Missourian]

From 2015...

Dems want to raise smoking age to 21

Senate Democrats say more work is needed to curb smoking among younger Americans.

thehill.com

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Governments going to have to change the tax laws so I can claim my children as dependents until they're 21.

Oh!!! Almost forgot... They shouldn't be allowed to marry until they're 21.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Missourian]

Voting need to go up too.

Democrats want their vote...but don't trust them with any other decisions.

"Just vote Democrat...we'll decide for you! No smoking, no drinking, you can't buy a gun to protect yourself...but you're totally an adult and we have no idea why the Republicans call our government leadership the 'Nanny State'."

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Do I hear 25 years of age for all those things like; entering the military, voting, being drafted, drinking, smoking, gun ownership, being able to marry, or any other adult decision such as gender change, being denied to immature adults?

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[White 6]

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They shouldn't be allowed to enter military service, get drafted, or vote, if they can't drink, smoke, or own guns, until they are 21.

*****SMILE*****

One has nothing to do with the others.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

One has nothing to do with the others.

If we're going to treat them like children then all those things should be denied them because...

*****SMILE*****





Not going to allow them to volunteer or be drafted into the military or allow them to vote or marry if they're going to be treated like children in other matters.

 

[debbiedowner]

From 2015...

Dems want to raise smoking age to 21

Senate Democrats say more work is needed to curb smoking among younger Americans.

thehill.com

Florida raised purchasing tobacco to 21 Oct 1, 2021 under Republican leadership.

Gun Ownership in Florida

Although you must be 21 to purchase a firearm, anyone over 18 may own and possess a firearm unless otherwise ineligible. Find help to navigate Florida Laws.

thefirearmfirm.com

Since 2018 it has been illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to purchase a firearm. Florida Statute §790.065(13) states that a person under 21 years of age may not purchase a firearm. This applies to both handguns and long guns. However, it is not illegal for a person 18 – 21 years old to own a firearm. Although they cannot lawfully purchase a firearm, anyone over 18 years of age who is not otherwise disqualified an own and possess a handgun or rifle.

Kind of screwy on the firearms. Again under republican leadership.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Let's see...

1. They can be volunteer or be drafted into the military so they can carry a gun and go shoot peoples heads off in other countries but they can't own a gun when they're in the United States.

2. They're not mature enough to drink, smoke, and now own guns?, but they are mature enough to vote making decisions that affect us all on those issues.

3. They're not mature enough to drink, smoke, and now own guns?, but they are mature enough to get married and have a passel of kids to raise like any other mature adult... even if they don't have the means to do so themselves and require the US taxpayer to support them.

4. They're not mature enough to drink, smoke, and now own guns?, but they are mature enough to make decisions about their body like gender changes and getting a tattoo.

I THINK NOT! If they aren't mature enough to drink, smoke, and now own guns?, then they're not mature enough for the other things so set an age limit for all of it.

How about making it twenty five years of age?

After all Obama made it so the parents have to cover them medically until they're twenty six.

*****SMILE*****

 

[White 6]

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If we're going to treat them like children then all those things should be denied them because...

*****SMILE*****





Not going to allow them to volunteer or be drafted into the military or allow them to vote or marry if they're going to be treated like children in other matters.

Bull. You know as well as I do, there is no drafting at the moment. You also know the only thing you can count on, when volunteer joining is a stressful introduction, heavy PT, heavy discipline, like these modern kids have ever seen. They can be trained to be trusted with weapons, but are not, just because they joined, except under the direct control of the Sergeants over them on the range and weapons facilities. The military teaches nothing applicable to judgement in the civilian world, on their own except marksmanship skills.

 

[Ringtone]

One has nothing to do with the others.

Agree. I'm a stanch defender of the Second Amendment, but the developmental concerns are real. There's absolutely no reason we shouldn't require that one be at least 21 to buy a firearm. Persons under the age of 21, albeit, members of the military, who would have the additional maturity of the pertinent training and discipline, should be the exception to the rule. That's all.

 

[Missourian]

One has nothing to do with the others.

Bullshit.

This rationale...that the actions of one or two or ten or twenty can be used by Democrats to infringe upon...or even deny the rights of millions is the same argument the Democrats make against a hundred million gun owners...that millions of 18 to 20 year olds can't be trust because of the actions of 10 to 20.

The argument that we are making is...Democrats don't think 18 to 20 year olds are too immature to vote for them ... or fight their wars for them...

...but strangely...they are willing to throw them under the bus to "Do Something" on gun control.

I don't think they shouldn't vote, or serve, or sign contracts or buy alcohol or get married, or buy tobacco or weed if we get around to legalizing it...

...what I'm saying is .. that's the logical extension of what DEMOCRATS are saying...no...what they BELIEVE.

That 18 to 20 year olds are nothing but bigger children...that Democrats can tell what to do...but don't forget to vote Blue no matter who...very important to keep Democrats in power to keep making the decisions for them...

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Bull. You know as well as I do, there is no drafting at the moment. You also know the only thing you can count on, when volunteer joining is a stressful introduction, heavy PT, heavy discipline, like these modern kids have ever seen. They can be trained to be trusted with weapons, but are not, just because they joined, except under the direct control of the Sergeants over them on the range and weapons facilities. The military teaches nothing applicable to judgement in the civilian world, on their own except marksmanship skills.

You only prove my point.

The military treats them like children then puts dangerous weapons into their hands. Abusers!!!

Why should these children be trusted to act like an adult if they are nothing more than children.

Yep! I'm going to go with raising all of it to twenty five years of age.

Too bad about that blue voting block vanishing but they're children and can't be trusted to do what's in their best interest.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Missourian]

Agree. I'm a stanch defender of the Second Amendment, but the developmental concerns are real. There's absolutely no reason we shouldn't require that one be at least 21 to buy a firearm. Persons under the age of 21, albeit, members of the military, who would have the additional maturity of the pertinent training and discipline, should be the exception to the rule. That's all.

If there are "developmental concerns" why are we letting them drive?

Can't be trusted with a gun... can't be trusted with a car.

That makes logical sense doesn't it?


And if we can't trust them with a firearm due to these "developmental concerns"...how can we trust them to vote to choose the person who can make the decision to destroy billions of people in nuclear fire?

That follows the exact same logic.

Not different at all.

We make a determination when a person is an adult. If Democrats believe the determination that 18, 19 and 20 year olds deserve to be treated as adults is no longer valid...then that should be the across-the-board determination.

Tell the 18 to 20 year olds the truth.

You believe that they are children that can't be trusted with responsibility.

 

[White 6]

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You only prove my point.

The military treats them like children then puts dangerous weapons into their hands. Abusers!!!

Why should these children be trusted to act like an adult if they are nothing more than children.

Yep! I'm going to go with raising all of it to twenty five years of age.

Too bad about that blue voting block vanishing but they're children and can't be trusted to do what's in their best interest.

*****SMILE*****

Your military ID will get you on post and enable you to shop at Aafes locations, including movie theaters. If you want an eye opener at your age, catch an action flick over by the reception station or AIT barracks when the youngest troops are off duty.
18 year olds, are perfect to go into the military. They are young and erratic in many ways, but moldable into accepting and responding to discipline for the most part. Not as easily or quickly molded after a few years. The training works. In a pinch they respond to leadership as trained. Still, it has little to do with how they are off post, on their own without the structure they have been trained to respond to.

 

[eagle1462010]

Bull. You know as well as I do, there is no drafting at the moment. You also know the only thing you can count on, when volunteer joining is a stressful introduction, heavy PT, heavy discipline, like these modern kids have ever seen. They can be trained to be trusted with weapons, but are not, just because they joined, except under the direct control of the Sergeants over them on the range and weapons facilities. The military teaches nothing applicable to judgement in the civilian world, on their own except marksmanship skills.

They are still required to sign up for the draft. Should a major war happen then the draft could be reinstated.

It's either they are a adult at a certain age or not. Damaged Eagle is CORRECT.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

When we legalize marijuana, will the Democrats demand a 21 year old age limit?

If not, why not? It is a form of smoking, is it not?

Are conservatives truly this ignorant or truly this dishonest.

Those under 21 may purchase a firearm via an intrastate face-to-face transaction with another state resident.

And those under 21 may be lawfully gifted firearms.

The prohibition concerns solely those under 21 seeking to purchase a firearm from an FFL 01.

 

[eagle1462010]

Are conservatives truly this ignorant or truly this dishonest.

Those under 21 may purchase a firearm via an intrastate face-to-face transaction with another state resident.

And those under 21 may be lawfully gifted firearms.

The prohibition concerns solely those under 21 seeking to purchase a firearm from an FFL 01.

Baloney. Under 21 aren't after Federal Fire Licenses to own dealer or collector weapons.

Your side is after any type of firearm you deem ASSAULT to be banned or not allowed til 21.

Then you do the back door reduce mag cap which makes most guns illegal without spending money to get reduced cap clips.