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What on earth would I be "butt hurt" about?
As a lesbian, the only reason I can think of is that you and your wife are doing it wrong.
That or you recently took up cycling and are in the process of breaking the gluteus maximus.
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Translation: Nailed it.Defamation, perhaps.Slander would have to be untrue.
Nope, but keep flailing.
Strawman, I'm not reluctant. I'm glad it makes my spouse happy. When you grasp that, maybe you can move past government marriage just being collective validation and start to get the real thing. Gays are not all like you BTW. My VP of sales for my business is gay. She has worked for me about three years. She has been in a serious committed relationship for about one. She and her partner very much do things for each other's interest. Isn't it interesting? You have the paper, she doesn't want it, but I consider her far more married than you are.
Judicial review can be considered necessary and proper simply because our federal Congress cannot always tell the difference between the common defense and the common offense, or any Thing more nuanced than that.Those legislatures or the People, simply don't retain the Power to deny and disparage those privileges and immunities to the citizens in the several States, without changing our Constitution, to allow it.Of course they have. Dont be silly.Well there's nothing to bitch about in this thread since judges haven't been making law when it come to gays and lesbians being able to civilly marry each other.
Please give us the name of one of those laws.
Ignoring legislatures and enacting government gay marriage
Which amendment does the SCOTUS have the power to make life fair when the legislature doesn't? I can't find that one?
What on earth would I be "butt hurt" about?
As a lesbian, the only reason I can think of is that you and your wife are doing it wrong.
That or you recently took up cycling and are in the process of breaking the gluteus maximus.
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Either that or because she keeps telling me I'm angry and projecting her butt her into me. I'm going with the latter.
Is that a strawman or blatant slander?Oh my, the guy who opposes government marriage is enjoying HIS government marriage.
Oh, he doesn't enjoy it. He hates it. His wife makes him stay married. He's a VERY reluctant hypocrite.
Strawman
Slander would have to be untrue.
I agree, it is basically true except for your butt hurt telling me how I feel. Don't go into psychology, you suck at it. As I keep telling you I'm not a hypocrite, I'm following my values because my values are that if something is more important to my spouse I do it her way. That is as you continually tell us beyond your capability. You get your way or you compromise or you show them the door. Doing it their way isn't part of your world.
Translation: Nailed it.
Strawman, I'm not reluctant. I'm glad it makes my spouse happy. When you grasp that, maybe you can move past government marriage just being collective validation and start to get the real thing. Gays are not all like you BTW. My VP of sales for my business is gay. She has worked for me about three years. She has been in a serious committed relationship for about one. She and her partner very much do things for each other's interest. Isn't it interesting? You have the paper, she doesn't want it, but I consider her far more married than you are.
Oh...so you're happy to be a raging hypocrite. Good to know. Can I call you the happy hypocrite instead?
Really? You're gonna try the "I have a gay friend" thing too?
Being civilly married was in the interest of both my spouse and I. We both wanted it and to you that means we're worthy of derision...because we want the same civil marriage you and your wife wanted that now only she wants.
And your opinion of my marriage doesn't make me any less married or any less in love with my wife.
Judicial review can be considered necessary and proper simply because our federal Congress cannot always tell the difference between the common defense and the common offense, or any Thing more nuanced than that.Those legislatures or the People, simply don't retain the Power to deny and disparage those privileges and immunities to the citizens in the several States, without changing our Constitution, to allow it.Of course they have. Dont be silly.
Please give us the name of one of those laws.
Ignoring legislatures and enacting government gay marriage
Which amendment does the SCOTUS have the power to make life fair when the legislature doesn't? I can't find that one?
What on earth would I be "butt hurt" about?
As a lesbian, the only reason I can think of is that you and your wife are doing it wrong.
That or you recently took up cycling and are in the process of breaking the gluteus maximus.
>>>>
Either that or because she keeps telling me I'm angry and projecting her butt her into me. I'm going with the latter.
I do? Links?
Is that a strawman or blatant slander?Oh, he doesn't enjoy it. He hates it. His wife makes him stay married. He's a VERY reluctant hypocrite.
Strawman
Slander would have to be untrue.
I agree, it is basically true except for your butt hurt telling me how I feel. Don't go into psychology, you suck at it. As I keep telling you I'm not a hypocrite, I'm following my values because my values are that if something is more important to my spouse I do it her way. That is as you continually tell us beyond your capability. You get your way or you compromise or you show them the door. Doing it their way isn't part of your world.
Yes Kaz, so honorable of you to stay married to your wife when you don't want to. We get it. Big sacrifice on your part to take those tax breaks...that you want to deny gay couples.
Translation: Nailed it.Nope, but keep flailing.
Strawman, I'm not reluctant. I'm glad it makes my spouse happy. When you grasp that, maybe you can move past government marriage just being collective validation and start to get the real thing. Gays are not all like you BTW. My VP of sales for my business is gay. She has worked for me about three years. She has been in a serious committed relationship for about one. She and her partner very much do things for each other's interest. Isn't it interesting? You have the paper, she doesn't want it, but I consider her far more married than you are.
Oh...so you're happy to be a raging hypocrite. Good to know. Can I call you the happy hypocrite instead?
Really? You're gonna try the "I have a gay friend" thing too?
Being civilly married was in the interest of both my spouse and I. We both wanted it and to you that means we're worthy of derision...because we want the same civil marriage you and your wife wanted that now only she wants.
And your opinion of my marriage doesn't make me any less married or any less in love with my wife.
You should consider that sometimes when you do things because they are in your partner's interest rather than your own and you don't demand your way or even a compromise, you get more in your own interest than getting your way. Blows your mind, doesn't it?
And I conceded you have the paper, you have government marriage. You just don't know what marriage is.
Is that a strawman or blatant slander?Strawman
Slander would have to be untrue.
I agree, it is basically true except for your butt hurt telling me how I feel. Don't go into psychology, you suck at it. As I keep telling you I'm not a hypocrite, I'm following my values because my values are that if something is more important to my spouse I do it her way. That is as you continually tell us beyond your capability. You get your way or you compromise or you show them the door. Doing it their way isn't part of your world.
Yes Kaz, so honorable of you to stay married to your wife when you don't want to. We get it. Big sacrifice on your part to take those tax breaks...that you want to deny gay couples.
LOL, I don't want to pay taxes that I oppose in the first place, I keep saying I think taxes should be flat and marriage irrelevant to the taxes. You don't want to pay taxes that you support. You want to fuck single people then get out of those taxes.
And YOU call ME a hypocrite...
What on earth would I be "butt hurt" about?
As a lesbian, the only reason I can think of is that you and your wife are doing it wrong.
That or you recently took up cycling and are in the process of breaking the gluteus maximus.
>>>>
Either that or because she keeps telling me I'm angry and projecting her butt her into me. I'm going with the latter.
I do? Links?
Seriously, I have to show you links to show you that you keep telling me how I feel and how I feel according to you is the anger you feel? Read like 10 of your posts and you'll see the pattern pretty clearly
Yes, when you say its good that 4 year old children are adopted into a homosexual family/lifestyle, that does not make it true.You lost your argument, you just made it personal and about your beliefs.Yes, Grown adults should stay out of others bedrooms. But that is not the case when you have two homosexual men or women who adopt orphaned children and teach them homosexuality.
Homosexuals are demanding government intervention, it is that simple.
No- its just that your viewpoint is simple and wrong.
Two homosexual men or two homosexual women who step up and adopt children abandoned by the children's natural parents are teaching them how to be good people- not how to be homosexuals.
You apparently would prefer that those children not be adopted, but remain abandoned and without families, to ultimately be abandoned by the system as the age out of the system.
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You are describing the children as abandoned, why would you bring your personal feelings into this discussion while attempting to portray all orphaned children as abandoned. The simple answer is that facts do not support your feelings on this topic.
Yes, when you describe children in Orphanages as abandoned, and reiterate that theme throughout your post, it simply shows you have zero understanding of what happens in people's lives.
You should excuse your assumptions and emotions from this discussion, it does not help your argument at all.
Since gays have been adopting kids for decades and having their own, you don't actually have an argument. The simple fact is our children are fine and if you're really that worried about gays adopting your kids, you'd make alternate arrangements.
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Yes, homosexual men have been adopting 4 year old boys, for years as you say, teaching them the homosexual lifestyle. I call that abuse.You lost your argument, you just made it personal and about your beliefs.Yes, Grown adults should stay out of others bedrooms. But that is not the case when you have two homosexual men or women who adopt orphaned children and teach them homosexuality.
Homosexuals are demanding government intervention, it is that simple.
No- its just that your viewpoint is simple and wrong.
Two homosexual men or two homosexual women who step up and adopt children abandoned by the children's natural parents are teaching them how to be good people- not how to be homosexuals.
You apparently would prefer that those children not be adopted, but remain abandoned and without families, to ultimately be abandoned by the system as the age out of the system.
.
You are describing the children as abandoned, why would you bring your personal feelings into this discussion while attempting to portray all orphaned children as abandoned. The simple answer is that facts do not support your feelings on this topic.
Yes, when you describe children in Orphanages as abandoned, and reiterate that theme throughout your post, it simply shows you have zero understanding of what happens in people's lives.
You should excuse your assumptions and emotions from this discussion, it does not help your argument at all.
Since gays have been adopting kids for decades and having their own, you don't actually have an argument. The simple fact is our children are fine and if you're really that worried about gays adopting your kids, you'd make alternate arrangements.
You can call it whatever you want. It doesn't make it true.
Oh, ha, ha, like if you can link to any nut job site through Google you have a source that proves your opinion? You tried that and failed, remember?What on earth would I be "butt hurt" about?
As a lesbian, the only reason I can think of is that you and your wife are doing it wrong.
That or you recently took up cycling and are in the process of breaking the gluteus maximus.
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Either that or because she keeps telling me I'm angry and projecting her butt her into me. I'm going with the latter.
I do? Links?
Seriously, I have to show you links to show you that you keep telling me how I feel and how I feel according to you is the anger you feel? Read like 10 of your posts and you'll see the pattern pretty clearly
So no link? I don't like to call people liars outright so I'll just call you mistaken.
Judicial review can be considered necessary and proper simply because our federal Congress cannot always tell the difference between the common defense and the common offense, or any Thing more nuanced than that.Those legislatures or the People, simply don't retain the Power to deny and disparage those privileges and immunities to the citizens in the several States, without changing our Constitution, to allow it.Please give us the name of one of those laws.
Ignoring legislatures and enacting government gay marriage
Which amendment does the SCOTUS have the power to make life fair when the legislature doesn't? I can't find that one?
It's not in the Constitution, they took it in Marbury v. Madison, and it's not a basis to change laws or make up laws they don't like.
Since there is no COnstitutional mention of marriage,nor is is in federal law as applying to states that would appear to be what we call "bullshit."You're joking, rght? THe constutional amendments etc that define marriage as between one man and one woman are exactly the issue. Those are exactly the measures that gay activists judges have been striking down. States have the Constitutional authority to decide who is eligible to marry, just as they do who is eligible to get a drivers license or who is eligible to get a gun carry permit. No one has made the argument that states are denying rights to people with misdemeanors when they deny them carry permits. The state is empowered to set criteria. Same with marriage licenses.You may tell anyone anything you like, but it remains subjective opinion and factually wrong.That's true. I cannot explain how it causes hunger in Africa. Or how it causes global warming either. That doesnt mean those things have ever been arguments against "gay marriage." I can tell you that defining marriage is a state power which is being undermined by an activist judiciary. I can tell you that gay marriage is poor public policy because it undermines the purpose of state sponsored marriage to begin with.In other words, Rabbi can't explain how two gay people getting married threatens anyone.
The only arguments against those two are Arguments 1 and 2.
The issue has nothing to do with 'defining' marriage; indeed, all parties involved agree as to the definition of marriage and in no way seek to 'redefine' it.
The issue concerns the fact that same-sex couples are eligible to enter into marriage contracts in all 50 states, where some states seek to deny gay Americans access to marriage law in violation of the 14th Amendment.
Americans are citizens of the United States first and foremost, residents of the states subordinate to that, including gay Americans. Citizens' civil rights as guaranteed and protected by the Federal Constitution are consequently immune from attack by the states. As a fact of settled, accepted, and fundamental Constitutional jurisprudence the states have no 'authority' whatsoever to 'decide' who will or will not have his civil rights.
States do not have the authority to make laws that conflict with the Constitution or federal law.
Yes, when you say its good that 4 year old children are adopted into a homosexual family/lifestyle, that does not make it true.You lost your argument, you just made it personal and about your beliefs.No- its just that your viewpoint is simple and wrong.
Two homosexual men or two homosexual women who step up and adopt children abandoned by the children's natural parents are teaching them how to be good people- not how to be homosexuals.
You apparently would prefer that those children not be adopted, but remain abandoned and without families, to ultimately be abandoned by the system as the age out of the system.
.
You are describing the children as abandoned, why would you bring your personal feelings into this discussion while attempting to portray all orphaned children as abandoned. The simple answer is that facts do not support your feelings on this topic.
Yes, when you describe children in Orphanages as abandoned, and reiterate that theme throughout your post, it simply shows you have zero understanding of what happens in people's lives.
You should excuse your assumptions and emotions from this discussion, it does not help your argument at all.
Since gays have been adopting kids for decades and having their own, you don't actually have an argument. The simple fact is our children are fine and if you're really that worried about gays adopting your kids, you'd make alternate arrangements.
I
Yes, homosexual men have been adopting 4 year old boys, for years as you say, teaching them the homosexual lifestyle. I call that abuse.You lost your argument, you just made it personal and about your beliefs.No- its just that your viewpoint is simple and wrong.
Two homosexual men or two homosexual women who step up and adopt children abandoned by the children's natural parents are teaching them how to be good people- not how to be homosexuals.
You apparently would prefer that those children not be adopted, but remain abandoned and without families, to ultimately be abandoned by the system as the age out of the system.
.
You are describing the children as abandoned, why would you bring your personal feelings into this discussion while attempting to portray all orphaned children as abandoned. The simple answer is that facts do not support your feelings on this topic.
Yes, when you describe children in Orphanages as abandoned, and reiterate that theme throughout your post, it simply shows you have zero understanding of what happens in people's lives.
You should excuse your assumptions and emotions from this discussion, it does not help your argument at all.
Since gays have been adopting kids for decades and having their own, you don't actually have an argument. The simple fact is our children are fine and if you're really that worried about gays adopting your kids, you'd make alternate arrangements.
You can call it whatever you want. It doesn't make it true.
Funny, you, giving me the correct answer, to reply to you.
Is that a strawman or blatant slander?Strawman
Slander would have to be untrue.
I agree, it is basically true except for your butt hurt telling me how I feel. Don't go into psychology, you suck at it. As I keep telling you I'm not a hypocrite, I'm following my values because my values are that if something is more important to my spouse I do it her way. That is as you continually tell us beyond your capability. You get your way or you compromise or you show them the door. Doing it their way isn't part of your world.
Yes Kaz, so honorable of you to stay married to your wife when you don't want to. We get it. Big sacrifice on your part to take those tax breaks...that you want to deny gay couples.
LOL, I don't want to pay taxes that I oppose in the first place, I keep saying I think taxes should be flat and marriage irrelevant to the taxes. You don't want to pay taxes that you support. You want to fuck single people then get out of those taxes.
And YOU call ME a hypocrite...
Is that a strawman or blatant slander?
Slander would have to be untrue.
I agree, it is basically true except for your butt hurt telling me how I feel. Don't go into psychology, you suck at it. As I keep telling you I'm not a hypocrite, I'm following my values because my values are that if something is more important to my spouse I do it her way. That is as you continually tell us beyond your capability. You get your way or you compromise or you show them the door. Doing it their way isn't part of your world.
Yes Kaz, so honorable of you to stay married to your wife when you don't want to. We get it. Big sacrifice on your part to take those tax breaks...that you want to deny gay couples.
LOL, I don't want to pay taxes that I oppose in the first place, I keep saying I think taxes should be flat and marriage irrelevant to the taxes. You don't want to pay taxes that you support. You want to fuck single people then get out of those taxes.
And YOU call ME a hypocrite...
Kaz...feel free to work your internet fingers to the bone telling people about the evils of Civil marriage. Actually DO something about your ideals and stand with a sign outside the marriage registrars office "Down with gubmit marriage". Do everything in your powerlessness to get rid of civil marriage and the hundreds of benfits that go with it. We'll still want to marry (Some STR8 would set up a citizens registry I'm sure). We were marrying before we could do it legally and we would do it if you ever managed to pry civil marriage from the fingers of you heterosexuals. Let us know how the campaign goes...you'll know how OUR fight goes.
