Let Them Kill Each Other

[tinydancer]

White people, like the kind who need to stay out of Iraq. Perhaps try leading by example.

Maybe that's why the "freedom fighters" in the ISIS are killing and torturing anyone who resists. Bush showed them the way.

Freedom fighters you say. I'm on various Shia websites right now. So you are saying that ISIS is a freedom fighting group.

Please explain.

ISIS is a religious fundmentalist group violently forcing their way on the rest of the country. This KNB idiot believes that the whitey is the cause of all wars and violence, and if we just let the world rip its own throat out here in our borders = it really didn't happen.

I know Matthew. Even though we disagree on some I'm still glad you've got a good heart and you are right on many.

 

[KNB]

White people?

White people, like the kind who need to stay out of Iraq. Perhaps try leading by example.

Maybe that's why the "freedom fighters" in the ISIS are killing and torturing anyone who resists. Bush showed them the way.

Freedom fighters you say. I'm on various Shia websites right now. So you are saying that ISIS is a freedom fighting group.

Please explain.

Freedom fighters was in quotations. It's a quote. From Ronald Reagan. He called psychotic Muslim terrorists "freedom fighters" when he was selling missiles to them.

The point of the post was that Bush tortured and bombed Iraqis for five years over lies, deposing Saddam Hussein (former ally to Reagan), creating a power vacuum that was filled by "freedom fighters" from all over, killing and looting and pillaging in a bloody scramble to take up the authority left by Hussein's absence.

The inevitable, which was known to senior members of the Bush administration including Vice President Dick Cheney at least as far back as 1994.

 

[tinydancer]

Crazy fucking world we live on. Religious fundmentalism groups like the isis are out to impose strict islam on the middle east.

Matthew you want to know what's crazy? I know and love both Sunni and Shia and they cannot explain why they hate each other.

Sigh. Its like the Irish and yes I am one, Can't explain the Orange.

 

[Rambunctious]

"Let Them Kill Each Other"

We shouldn't just stand by and watch. We laid the ground work for this latest round of killing by leaving too early. I know Obama had an election to win but we should have stayed until the job was done regardless of what Barry wanted.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Let Them Kill Each Other

This is the consequence of Bush’s two unwarranted, illegal wars; whatever the outcome in Iraq and Afghanistan, they will forever be the responsibility of GWB, regardless the current administration.

 

[tinydancer]

White people, like the kind who need to stay out of Iraq. Perhaps try leading by example.

Maybe that's why the "freedom fighters" in the ISIS are killing and torturing anyone who resists. Bush showed them the way.

Freedom fighters you say. I'm on various Shia websites right now. So you are saying that ISIS is a freedom fighting group.

Please explain.

Freedom fighters was in quotations. It's a quote. From Ronald Reagan. He called psychotic Muslim terrorists "freedom fighters" when he was selling missiles to them.

The point of the post was that Bush tortured and bombed Iraqis for five years over lies, deposing Saddam Hussein (former ally to Reagan), creating a power vacuum that was filled by "freedom fighters" from all over, killing and looting and pillaging in a bloody scramble to take up the authority left by Hussein's absence.

The inevitable, which was known to senior members of the Bush administration including Vice President Dick Cheney at least as far back as 1994.

When you lie from the get go how can I deal with you?

I can't.

 

[Rambunctious]

Let Them Kill Each Other

This is the consequence of Bush’s two unwarranted, illegal wars; whatever the outcome in Iraq and Afghanistan, they will forever be the responsibility of GWB, regardless the current administration.

Keep dreaming pal. This fucking mess is all on Obama. Bush is retired in case you did not know.

 

[Bush92]

Where is help from European nations? Where are Saudi's and Jordanians? What about U.N.? This is NOT a U.S. problem.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

"Let Them Kill Each Other"

We shouldn't just stand by and watch. We laid the ground work for this latest round of killing by leaving too early. I know Obama had an election to win but we should have stayed until the job was done regardless of what Barry wanted.

let Maliki make the choice....we help him if he agrees to our terms...

 

[Rambunctious]

"Let Them Kill Each Other"

We shouldn't just stand by and watch. We laid the ground work for this latest round of killing by leaving too early. I know Obama had an election to win but we should have stayed until the job was done regardless of what Barry wanted.

let Maliki make the choice....we help him if he agrees to our terms...

LOL it's the terms that worry me. With this bunch of light weights in the White House and the ridiculous folks we're saddled at the state dept. you never know what you're going to get.

 

[Avatar4321]

I'd rather preach the Gospel to them. But i don't see that happening at this moment. Who knows though.

 

[Rambunctious]

They are going to kill each other no matter what we do so I suggest we stay the hell out of it. Those religious assholes who cannot see any further than the interests of their shitty sects and tribes mean to commit murder on each other and we would be fools to feed any of our people into that retarded wood chipper. What the hell do the warhawks think we can accomplish there? Destroy Mosul to save it?

You let these bad boys get Baghdad they will have the power to kill all of us. You really need to check out these dudes.

The power to kill all of us with what? Toyota trucks full of insurgents? Are they going to hop a cargo flight to Miami?

KNB....We heard those very words before 9-11....you must be under 18.

 

[occupied]

I'd rather preach the Gospel to them. But i don't see that happening at this moment. Who knows though.

Christians preaching non violence in that region probably seem just a touch hypocritical.

 

[Peach]

Freedom fighters you say. I'm on various Shia websites right now. So you are saying that ISIS is a freedom fighting group.

Please explain.

Freedom fighters was in quotations. It's a quote. From Ronald Reagan. He called psychotic Muslim terrorists "freedom fighters" when he was selling missiles to them.

The point of the post was that Bush tortured and bombed Iraqis for five years over lies, deposing Saddam Hussein (former ally to Reagan), creating a power vacuum that was filled by "freedom fighters" from all over, killing and looting and pillaging in a bloody scramble to take up the authority left by Hussein's absence.

The inevitable, which was known to senior members of the Bush administration including Vice President Dick Cheney at least as far back as 1994.

When you lie from the get go how can I deal with you?

I can't.

Reagan did support the mujahideen, which was later became the Taliban, they were beaten down by al Qaeda, a splinter group of which is ISIS. The tension between Sunni & Shiia however goes back centuries, Iraq has not existed even one century. Too late to blame it all on Reagan, Afghanistan would have removed the Soviets with or without Reagan's posing.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

"Let Them Kill Each Other"

We shouldn't just stand by and watch. We laid the ground work for this latest round of killing by leaving too early. I know Obama had an election to win but we should have stayed until the job was done regardless of what Barry wanted.

let Maliki make the choice....we help him if he agrees to our terms...

LOL it's the terms that worry me. With this bunch of light weights in the White House and the ridiculous folks we're saddled at the state dept. you never know what you're going to get.

if BO follows his sunni roots i doubt there will be a deal...

 

[Peach]

We do not have coherent leadership. Without that anything we do will be the wrong thing to do. Just like it has been since the sleazy preezy took the throne.

The sleazebags drunks left in 2009, now we have a trainee...........either way, crimes against humanity remain CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

 

[Mr Natural]

Where is help from European nations? Where are Saudi's and Jordanians? What about U.N.? This is NOT a U.S. problem.

And what about Israel?

They have some skin in this game. Probably more than anyone.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Don't think for a moment that it didn't also serve America's interests to do what we could to make Iraqi Liberation a success.

Liberated from what? Saddam was an asshat, but at least the country was stable. The only interests our invasion served was corporate. No American or foreign soldier for any Iraqi's freedom. That's a crock of shit propaganda spewed to us by our lying government.

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change in Iraq.[1][2]

It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton, and states that it is the policy of the United States to support democratic movements within Iraq. The Act was cited in October 2002 to argue for the authorization of military force against the Iraqi government.

The bill was sponsored by Representative Benjamin A. Gilman (Republican, NY-20) and co-sponsored by Representative Christopher Cox (Republican, CA-47).

The bill was introduced as H.R. 4655 on September 29, 1998.

The House of Representatives passed the bill 360 - 38 on October 5, and the Senate passed it with unanimous consent two days later. President Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act into law on October 31, 1998.[3]


Findings and declaration of policy[edit]
The Act found that between 1980 and 1998 Iraq had:

committed various and significant violations of international law,

had failed to comply with the obligations to which it had agreed following the Gulf War and

further had ignored resolutions of the United Nations Security Council.
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The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change."

The Act was passed 360-38 in the U.S. House of Representatives[4] and by unanimous consent in the Senate.[5]

US President Bill Clinton signed the bill into law on October 31, 1998.

The law's stated purpose was: "to establish a program to support a transition to democracy in Iraq." Specifically, Congress made findings of past Iraqi military actions in violation of International Law and that Iraq had denied entry of United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) inspectors into its country to inspect for weapons of mass destruction.

Congress found: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

On December 16, 1998, President Bill Clinton mandated Operation Desert Fox, a major four-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets.

President Clinton stated in February 1998:

Iraq admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability, notably, 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs. And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production....

Over the past few months, as [the weapons inspectors] have come closer and closer to rooting out Iraq's remaining nuclear capacity, Saddam has undertaken yet another gambit to thwart their ambitions by imposing debilitating conditions on the inspectors and declaring key sites which have still not been inspected off limits....

It is obvious that there is an attempt here, based on the whole history of this operation since 1991, to protect whatever remains of his capacity to produce weapons of mass destruction, the missiles to deliver them, and the feed stocks necessary to produce them. The UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq still has stockpiles of chemical and biological munitions, a small force of Scud-type missiles, and the capacity to restart quickly its production program and build many, many more weapons....

Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will.

He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal....

President Clinton ~ 1998[6]

Iraq Liberation Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is there a point here somewhere?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

No, Iraq has taken a turn for the worse AFTER the situation was well in hand.

Obama has to take the blame for it.

Don't go re-thinking the entire effort just because Obama sabotaged the outcome.

None of this HAD to happen after we left except that Obama intentionally or through sheer incompetence orchestrated it to happen.

Iraq got worse on March 20th, 2003.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Let Them Kill Each Other

This is the consequence of Bush’s two unwarranted, illegal wars; whatever the outcome in Iraq and Afghanistan, they will forever be the responsibility of GWB, regardless the current administration.

There was nothing unwarranted or illegal about Afghanistan.