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My point is that they require people to prove their eligibility to vote before they can vote, but you already knew that. We already have the means to prove who we are yet you libs don't want that requirement because half of your candidates would lose without voter fraud.How many adults do you know who can't already prove who they are? (legal adults, that is).Would you "states rights" guys be happy with the Federal Government mandating a common picture ID card for voting and issuing it to Alabamans and Missourians?
Not sure what your point is.
If we're going to adopt the Mexican model, apparently (not sure), the government issues the same voter's card to every registrant. I would be just giddy if we did that and also standardized the voting devices as well...
Not sure federal __________________ will pass muster with anyone (you could fill that in for everything the feds do).
Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?Another feeble attempt to distract. Care to try again?How many adults do you know who like Lesbian porn? We don't decide laws based upon well everyone I know has a driver's license.How many adults do you know who can't already prove who they are? (legal adults, that is).
That's just utter right-wing crap. Try being a rational adult, for once.My point is that they require people to prove their eligibility to vote before they can vote, but you already knew that. We already have the means to prove who we are yet you libs don't want that requirement because half of your candidates would lose without voter fraud.How many adults do you know who can't already prove who they are? (legal adults, that is).
Not sure what your point is.
If we're going to adopt the Mexican model, apparently (not sure), the government issues the same voter's card to every registrant. I would be just giddy if we did that and also standardized the voting devices as well...
Not sure federal __________________ will pass muster with anyone (you could fill that in for everything the feds do).
My point is that they require people to prove their eligibility to vote before they can vote, but you already knew that. We already have the means to prove who we are yet you libs don't want that requirement because half of your candidates would lose without voter fraud.How many adults do you know who can't already prove who they are? (legal adults, that is).
Not sure what your point is.
If we're going to adopt the Mexican model, apparently (not sure), the government issues the same voter's card to every registrant. I would be just giddy if we did that and also standardized the voting devices as well...
Not sure federal __________________ will pass muster with anyone (you could fill that in for everything the feds do).
Anyone can get a picture ID at DMV. And everyone is issued a birth certificate when they're born. If you lose it you can get a copy. Don't give me that bullshit. You act like only rich people have IDs. Any more Dem talking points you want to spout out to demagogue the issue in your attempt to derail the thread?Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?Another feeble attempt to distract. Care to try again?How many adults do you know who like Lesbian porn? We don't decide laws based upon well everyone I know has a driver's license.
That Freedom thing you are so in love with means you can be born here, live here, and die without anything formal being recorded on you. Now you say, show us your photo ID and they say, rightly, I don't even have birth certificate you idiot. In the US that is not unknown, believe it or not. You want to ask everyone for ID? Issue them one first and then ask. That's how your protect a founding principle of this country, the right to vote.
You may support it but your party leaders sure don't.My point is that they require people to prove their eligibility to vote before they can vote, but you already knew that. We already have the means to prove who we are yet you libs don't want that requirement because half of your candidates would lose without voter fraud.Not sure what your point is.
If we're going to adopt the Mexican model, apparently (not sure), the government issues the same voter's card to every registrant. I would be just giddy if we did that and also standardized the voting devices as well...
Not sure federal __________________ will pass muster with anyone (you could fill that in for everything the feds do).
Fuck you.
I support making people show voter ID cards and a picture ID. I've said so about 40 times on this forum.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...2-just-121-were-questioned-6.html#post7690887
http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/305218-voter-id-blankets-the-old-south-6.html#post7605233
http://www.usmessageboard.com/elect...after-supreme-court-ruling-6.html#post7586275
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...spread-fraud-in-sc-elections.html#post7511465
Their system has a federal entity issuing the cards. Would you be okay with that?
Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?Another feeble attempt to distract. Care to try again?How many adults do you know who like Lesbian porn? We don't decide laws based upon well everyone I know has a driver's license.
That Freedom thing you are so in love with means you can be born here, live here, and die here without anything formal being recorded on you. Now you say, show us your photo ID and they say, rightly, I don't even have birth certificate you idiot. In the US that is not unknown, believe it or not. You want to ask everyone for ID? Issue them one first and then ask. That's how your protect a founding principle of this country, the right to vote.
Ridiculing people who love freedom pretty much tells you where the creep is coming from.Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?Another feeble attempt to distract. Care to try again?
That Freedom thing you are so in love with means you can be born here, live here, and die here without anything formal being recorded on you. Now you say, show us your photo ID and they say, rightly, I don't even have birth certificate you idiot. In the US that is not unknown, believe it or not. You want to ask everyone for ID? Issue them one first and then ask. That's how your protect a founding principle of this country, the right to vote.
Further proof that the far left has no clue about "rights".
Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?Another feeble attempt to distract. Care to try again?
That Freedom thing you are so in love with means you can be born here, live here, and die here without anything formal being recorded on you. Now you say, show us your photo ID and they say, rightly, I don't even have birth certificate you idiot. In the US that is not unknown, believe it or not. You want to ask everyone for ID? Issue them one first and then ask. That's how your protect a founding principle of this country, the right to vote.
Further proof that the far left has no clue about "rights".
Wrong, and also Wrong, Wrong again, and yet again, also wrong, and yet again, wrong.Anyone can get a picture ID at DMV. And everyone is issued a birth certificate when they're born. If you lose it you can get a copy. Don't give me that bullshit. You act like only rich people have IDs. Any more Dem talking points you want to spout out to demagogue the issue in your attempt to derail the thread?
Oh we know rights very well. For 200 years in this country you didn't need ID to vote. Now that you can't win an election to save your ass, suddenly we all need ID that millions of people won't be able to get, for one reason or another, and your opinion is fuck 'em, they don't vote for us anyway.Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?Another feeble attempt to distract. Care to try again?
That Freedom thing you are so in love with means you can be born here, live here, and die here without anything formal being recorded on you. Now you say, show us your photo ID and they say, rightly, I don't even have birth certificate you idiot. In the US that is not unknown, believe it or not. You want to ask everyone for ID? Issue them one first and then ask. That's how your protect a founding principle of this country, the right to vote.
Further proof that the far left has no clue about "rights".
Ridiculing people who love freedom pretty much tells you where the creep is coming from.Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?
That Freedom thing you are so in love with means you can be born here, live here, and die here without anything formal being recorded on you. Now you say, show us your photo ID and they say, rightly, I don't even have birth certificate you idiot. In the US that is not unknown, believe it or not. You want to ask everyone for ID? Issue them one first and then ask. That's how your protect a founding principle of this country, the right to vote.
Further proof that the far left has no clue about "rights".
What's the Freedom of required photo ID? Papers please is Freedom? Interesting.Ridiculing people who love freedom pretty much tells you where the creep is coming from.Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?
That Freedom thing you are so in love with means you can be born here, live here, and die here without anything formal being recorded on you. Now you say, show us your photo ID and they say, rightly, I don't even have birth certificate you idiot. In the US that is not unknown, believe it or not. You want to ask everyone for ID? Issue them one first and then ask. That's how your protect a founding principle of this country, the right to vote.
Further proof that the far left has no clue about "rights".
You will find that the courts see voting as a Right, and that you are Wrong. The fact that the Right has age requirements does not make it less of a Right. There are age requirements to be President and serve in Congress. Does that mean that no American has a Right to be President or serve in Congress? No, it means that you are not so smart smart guy and you don't actually know what a Right is.Ridiculing people who love freedom pretty much tells you where the creep is coming from.Further proof that the far left has no clue about "rights".
So I will explain it to the far left, even though it will not override their programming.
You have no right to vote on the national level, it is the state delegates that decide the presidential elections. Thus even though a candidate may win in a particular state, that state can still put their electoral votes behind any other candidate. And the so called "right to vote" prohibits anyone under 18 to vote in national elections. Which means that this is not a right. If it were a right then everyone regardless of age would be able to vote.
Another far left talking point shot out the window.
Oh we know rights very well. For 200 years in this country you didn't need ID to vote. Now that you can't win an election to save your ass, suddenly we all need ID that millions of people won't be able to get, for one reason or another, and your opinion is fuck 'em, they don't vote for us anyway.Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?
That Freedom thing you are so in love with means you can be born here, live here, and die here without anything formal being recorded on you. Now you say, show us your photo ID and they say, rightly, I don't even have birth certificate you idiot. In the US that is not unknown, believe it or not. You want to ask everyone for ID? Issue them one first and then ask. That's how your protect a founding principle of this country, the right to vote.
Further proof that the far left has no clue about "rights".
You will find that the courts see voting as a Right, and that you are Wrong. The fact that the Right has age requirements does not make it less of a Right. There are age requirements to be President and serve in Congress. Does that mean that no American has a Right to be President or serve in Congress? No, it means that you are not so smart smart guy and you don't actually know what a Right is.Ridiculing people who love freedom pretty much tells you where the creep is coming from.
So I will explain it to the far left, even though it will not override their programming.
You have no right to vote on the national level, it is the state delegates that decide the presidential elections. Thus even though a candidate may win in a particular state, that state can still put their electoral votes behind any other candidate. And the so called "right to vote" prohibits anyone under 18 to vote in national elections. Which means that this is not a right. If it were a right then everyone regardless of age would be able to vote.
Another far left talking point shot out the window.
U.S. Voting Rights | Infoplease.com
Funny how the far left wants the US to be more like Europe in everyway except this one.
RightsYou will find that the courts see voting as a Right, and that you are Wrong. The fact that the Right has age requirements does not make it less of a Right. There are age requirements to be President and serve in Congress. Does that mean that no American has a Right to be President or serve in Congress? No, it means that you are not so smart smart guy and you don't actually know what a Right is.So I will explain it to the far left, even though it will not override their programming.
You have no right to vote on the national level, it is the state delegates that decide the presidential elections. Thus even though a candidate may win in a particular state, that state can still put their electoral votes behind any other candidate. And the so called "right to vote" prohibits anyone under 18 to vote in national elections. Which means that this is not a right. If it were a right then everyone regardless of age would be able to vote.
Another far left talking point shot out the window.
U.S. Voting Rights | Infoplease.com
Even further proof that the far left does not understand what a "right" is.
Oh my!
Distract from what, denying people their right to vote because you now require photo ID you never did before and can't be bothered to provide everyone before you ask for it?Another feeble attempt to distract. Care to try again?How many adults do you know who like Lesbian porn? We don't decide laws based upon well everyone I know has a driver's license.
That Freedom thing you are so in love with means you can be born here, live here, and die here without anything formal being recorded on you. Now you say, show us your photo ID and they say, rightly, I don't even have birth certificate you idiot. In the US that is not unknown, believe it or not. You want to ask everyone for ID? Issue them one first and then ask. That's how your protect a founding principle of this country, the right to vote.
As long as you issue a National ID to all first, knock yourself out. It makes it that much easier to track you and ask for your papers.Oh we know rights very well. For 200 years in this country you didn't need ID to vote. Now that you can't win an election to save your ass, suddenly we all need ID that millions of people won't be able to get, for one reason or another, and your opinion is fuck 'em, they don't vote for us anyway.Further proof that the far left has no clue about "rights".
Funny how the far left wants the US to be more like Europe in everyway except this one.
