Lets elect moderates that aim to keep America number 1#

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Lets elect moderates that aim to keep America number 1#

How about in 2014=Fix, rebuild and cut waste!!!
-Build our infrastructure...Yes this is mostly a local issue but since our cities rely on the feds...Let's fund it at 2009 levels(another 60 billion) for a decade. :cool:
-Lets work to move science and technology forward. The life blood of our serious economy ;) Because the government wastes money on giving everyone welfare or the banks doesn't mean we should be cutting our science programs. That's just plain fucking stupid. :eek:

Give choices within education and working on lowering the cost of college. Yes, conservatives the trade school should be a clear path way for our children. ;)

-I'd cut back to 2009 levels for disability, food stamps and welfare. I believe that people should be helped but abled bodied people probably should be advancing themselves. :eusa_whistle: Above is part of my plan to do so...

-Lastly I'd cut aid to the rest of the world and end all the wars. BUILD AMERICA....

America can do better and must. A lot of this can be done at the local level....
 
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You won't find any of those in either one of the two major parties.

Immie
 
No. We need to have solid democratic politicians like FDR or Clinton back, which gave the US the greatest economies this nation has ever seen. The nation also needs to purge the far right wing fascist plague which is destroying it.
 
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Do dreamers still think that infrastructure related jobs build the economy? I have gotten stuck at various times in the last three years by infrastructure construction on a truck lane on interstate 81. If you ever traveled through western Maryland you have to wonder when they will ever finish the damned infrastructure and likewise Pa. There is no shortage of infrastructure construction at least on the East Coast but it still doesn't translate to real jobs. Only the private sector creates jobs.
 
Do dreamers still think that infrastructure related jobs build the economy? I have gotten stuck at various times in the last three years by infrastructure construction on a truck lane on interstate 81. If you ever traveled through western Maryland you have to wonder when they will ever finish the damned infrastructure and likewise Pa. There is no shortage of infrastructure construction at least on the East Coast but it still doesn't translate to real jobs. Only the private sector creates jobs.

FDR and the country as a whole would beg to differ.
 
Do dreamers still think that infrastructure related jobs build the economy? I have gotten stuck at various times in the last three years by infrastructure construction on a truck lane on interstate 81. If you ever traveled through western Maryland you have to wonder when they will ever finish the damned infrastructure and likewise Pa. There is no shortage of infrastructure construction at least on the East Coast but it still doesn't translate to real jobs. Only the private sector creates jobs.

FDR and the country as a whole would beg to differ.

How would FDR "beg to differ"? There were freaking soup lines throughout the US and Americans were dying of starvation along Rt. 66 on the way to the promised land of Ca. while FDR was pretending the CCC were doing something useful. WW2 and General Motors and the steel industry brought the economy around not FDR's infrastructure.
 
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Do dreamers still think that infrastructure related jobs build the economy? I have gotten stuck at various times in the last three years by infrastructure construction on a truck lane on interstate 81. If you ever traveled through western Maryland you have to wonder when they will ever finish the damned infrastructure and likewise Pa. There is no shortage of infrastructure construction at least on the East Coast but it still doesn't translate to real jobs. Only the private sector creates jobs.

I've been though there many times. VA is adding truck lanes south of Lexington down to Roanoke.
West VA is adding lanes to make I 81 three lanes for the entire 25 miles. PA is moving along with the section around Harrisburg. There is a good sized project involving the second interchange( exit 66 US 22/322) as you travel north across the Susquehanna River.
MIght be funded by taxpayers, but work is done by the private sector.
As you say though, the jobs are temporary.
 
I think your statist pipe dreams belong in the trash, you can't suck 25% out of an economy and expect it to thrive. How about we put the federal government back in the box they were intended to operate from and let the private sector do their thing and everything will work itself out. The answer is limited government, not the all intrusive thing we have now.
 
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Do dreamers still think that infrastructure related jobs build the economy? I have gotten stuck at various times in the last three years by infrastructure construction on a truck lane on interstate 81. If you ever traveled through western Maryland you have to wonder when they will ever finish the damned infrastructure and likewise Pa. There is no shortage of infrastructure construction at least on the East Coast but it still doesn't translate to real jobs. Only the private sector creates jobs.

FDR and the country as a whole would beg to differ.

How would FDR "beg to differ"? There were freaking soup lines throughout the US and Americans were dying of starvation along Rt. 66 on the way to the promised land of Ca. while FDR was pretending the CCC were doing something useful. WW2 and General Motors and the steel industry brought the economy around not FDR's infrastructure.

Those soup lies were created from right wing greed by those idiots Coolidge and Hoover. FDR put america to work which pulled the nation out of the great depression, created the interstate highway system, the hoover dam, and other icons that are still used to this day.
 
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Lets elect moderates that aim to keep America number 1#

How about in 2014=Fix, rebuild and cut waste!!!
-Build our infrastructure...Yes this is mostly a local issue but since our cities rely on the feds...Let's fund it at 2009 levels(another 60 billion) for a decade. :cool:
-Lets work to move science and technology forward. The life blood of our serious economy ;) Because the government wastes money on giving everyone welfare or the banks doesn't mean we should be cutting our science programs. That's just plain fucking stupid. :eek:

Give choices within education and working on lowering the cost of college. Yes, conservatives the trade school should be a clear path way for our children. ;)

-I'd cut back to 2009 levels for disability, food stamps and welfare. I believe that people should be helped but abled bodied people probably should be advancing themselves. :eusa_whistle: Above is part of my plan to do so...

-Lastly I'd cut aid to the rest of the world and end all the wars. BUILD AMERICA....

America can do better and must. A lot of this can be done at the local level....

About 1900 the call from the progressive left was if you didn't side with them you weren't "moderate". Since then we have "moderated" ourselves into a socialist failure of epic proportions based on people that get to vote for themselves other peoples handouts, or rather what could be stolen from them through government. We have made people dependent on welfare programs, food stamps, retirement and now working on healthcare.

We can do much better but moderate is the term coined by the left as go along with our programs and we can't afford to do that any longer. That got us to where we are today, how will it get us out of it?
 
Lets elect moderates that aim to keep America number 1#

How about in 2014=Fix, rebuild and cut waste!!!
-Build our infrastructure...Yes this is mostly a local issue but since our cities rely on the feds...Let's fund it at 2009 levels(another 60 billion) for a decade. :cool:
-Lets work to move science and technology forward. The life blood of our serious economy ;) Because the government wastes money on giving everyone welfare or the banks doesn't mean we should be cutting our science programs. That's just plain fucking stupid. :eek:

Give choices within education and working on lowering the cost of college. Yes, conservatives the trade school should be a clear path way for our children. ;)

-I'd cut back to 2009 levels for disability, food stamps and welfare. I believe that people should be helped but abled bodied people probably should be advancing themselves. :eusa_whistle: Above is part of my plan to do so...

-Lastly I'd cut aid to the rest of the world and end all the wars. BUILD AMERICA....

America can do better and must. A lot of this can be done at the local level....

About 1900 the call from the progressive left was if you didn't side with them you weren't "moderate". Since then we have "moderated" ourselves into a socialist failure of epic proportions based on people that get to vote for themselves other peoples handouts, or rather what could be stolen from them through government. We have made people dependent on welfare programs, food stamps, retirement and now working on healthcare.

We can do much better but moderate is the term coined by the left as go along with our programs and we can't afford to do that any longer. That got us to where we are today, how will it get us out of it?

The most educated and wealthy states are all very blue, where the poorest and most leeching off of welfare are bright red.

GOP supporters are the plague of the nation.
 
We've had nothing but moderates and libs as president and look where it's gotten us.

I think you should put down the peace pipe and wake the fuck up.

Your conservative hero Ronald Reagan put us on this path. Of course he understood that you need enough revenue to run the government even if he believed in lower tax rates. BTW, things weren't all that bad with that moderate Bill Clinton.
 
Lets elect moderates that aim to keep America number 1#

How about in 2014=Fix, rebuild and cut waste!!!
-Build our infrastructure...Yes this is mostly a local issue but since our cities rely on the feds...Let's fund it at 2009 levels(another 60 billion) for a decade. :cool:
-Lets work to move science and technology forward. The life blood of our serious economy ;) Because the government wastes money on giving everyone welfare or the banks doesn't mean we should be cutting our science programs. That's just plain fucking stupid. :eek:

Give choices within education and working on lowering the cost of college. Yes, conservatives the trade school should be a clear path way for our children. ;)

-I'd cut back to 2009 levels for disability, food stamps and welfare. I believe that people should be helped but abled bodied people probably should be advancing themselves. :eusa_whistle: Above is part of my plan to do so...

-Lastly I'd cut aid to the rest of the world and end all the wars. BUILD AMERICA....

America can do better and must. A lot of this can be done at the local level....

Honestly it has nothing to do with conservatives, liberals, or moderates. It has everything to do with electing representatives who are willing to bend here and there to work with those with opposing ideas so that something can be accomplished.

Here is a prime example. The ACA has some big flaws in it, one being the fact that low income workers who are offered insurance at work still cannot afford their share of the premium. Because their employer offers them insurance, they are ineligible for the tax credit if they purchased their insurance on the open exchange. So many of these people will just go without the insurance. Of course there are other issues with the ACA, but we have people who love it as it is or those who just want to repeal the entire thing. What we need are representatives who are willing to fix the shortcomings and see if it is workable after doing so rather than just try to scrap it which is not going to happen.

That is just one example, but there are so many others. Tax reform is a joke because we have people who want to cut rates to all time lows and then we have others who refuse to even discuss legitimate spending cuts. The thing is that just being a moderate doesn't solve all the problems because moderates don't have all the answers. BTW, what truly constitutes one being a moderate? Many who call themselves moderates are actually all over the place picking and choosing whom they agree and disagree with. They just never land in the same camp all the time.
 
I guess I would categorize a moderate as someone willing to accept half a loaf in order to move forward.

Were we to really get serious about our infrastructure investments, it would vastly increase our employment, and start this nation to seeing some real growth again. Our water systems for our great cities often date back to the early 1900's. Our grid is an antique that is extremely vulnable to both natural and manmade disasters. It should be made to be a distributed grid and brought up to date. Our present delivery sytem for the internet to homes and businesses, when we compare ours to a nation like South Korea, is like comparing a horse drawn buggy to a Tesla. And, unfortunetly, we own the buggy.

South Korea now graduates more engineers than we do. China graduates far more. China is spending far more of their GDP on developing alternative energy sources than we are.

So, what do we need to do?

One. Educate our people. Define where the jobs of the future are, and get our people into training for those jobs.

Two. Spend more on R and D. Like at least ten times as much. Some of it 'blue sky'. That is research into things that have no discernable use at the present. Like the grant for research into a strange type of material called 'semi-conductors' in 1948. Research has always proved to be a bargain, even when it costs to much.

Three. Reform our tax structure so it does not favor the accumlation of vast wealth at the expense of the people creating that wealth. Make it worthwhile for people to do their best, and the people will respond with their best.

Four. Military. Yes, we need a strong military, but do we need to spend more than the next seven or ten nations put together on that military? Hark back to President Eisenhower's warning.
 

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