Let's pretend republicans have always been in favor of raising the minimum wage...

[Billy000]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

So let's pretend that pigs fly. Would the price of bacon still be so ridiculously over-priced?

I ask because the principles of nature do not provide for lift within the shape of the lowly pig. Therefore, asking questions which suppose that Americans opposing the unprincipled (That which rejects the principles of nature) notion of artificially raising the labor value of zero to some value beyond zero is a function of popularity... is just as ABSURD.

The same goes for the subscription to the hysteria that the ever changing global climate is suddenly changing due to Human behavior... and that paying people to not work will somehow stimulate them to seek employment... and that demonstrably deviant sexual behavior is perfectly normal.... and that THERE IS A RIGHT to murder one's pre-born child, and so on... .

See how that works?

 

[Billy000]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

So let's pretend that pigs fly. Would the price of bacon still be so ridiculously over-priced?

I ask because the principles of nature do not provide for lift within the shape of the lowly pig. Therefore, asking questions which suppose that Americans opposing the unprincipled (That which rejects the principles of nature) notion of artificially raising the labor value of zero to some value beyond zero is a function of popularity... is just as ABSURD.

See how that works?

Tell me would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

 

[hunarcy]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

Is the climate changing? Of course, it always is. Did humans cause it? Doubt it. To many instances of change in the past when humans couldn't have affected it. Your side blindly accepts that we should turn our lived upside down based on speculation and claim that people that don't agree with you are blindly listening to dogma and then are shocked that you're not listened to on issues. Your blind fear is not reason to panic. Sorry.

We've seen your side raise the minimum wage time after time and no one ever benefits because the cost is passed on to the consumer and all that happens is that prices go up and everyone is worse off. You see everyone is worse off and demand another minimum wage increase which will also be passed on to consumers and so prices go up and everyone will be even worse off.

You're like a blind fool who is shocked that people think for themselves and don't agree with you.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

So let's pretend that pigs fly. Would the price of bacon still be so ridiculously over-priced?

I ask because the principles of nature do not provide for lift within the shape of the lowly pig. Therefore, asking questions which suppose that Americans opposing the unprincipled (That which rejects the principles of nature) notion of artificially raising the labor value of zero to some value beyond zero is a function of popularity... is just as ABSURD.

See how that works?

Tell me would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

America... is a concept, not a place.

You're likely referring to the United States... which, like everywhere else in the universe, is subject to the universal wage for minimal labor, which is ZERO.

The idiocy which raises the rate for zero labor to some level above zero serves ONLY as a means to devalue whatever is used as an exchange for such.

Now for instance... I can hire a neurologist to change my oil. If he sits on his ass for an hour, texting his feelings about what an asshole I am... how hot it is, what he wants to do when he gets off 'work'. And I return to find my old oil still resting inside my engine... then that labor has resulted in zero gain for me, therefore its value to me is zero. (It is literally less than Zero, in that I lost the time I invested in trying to get my oil changed. HE OWES ME MONEY FOR MY TIME!)

This without regard to his four years in college, another four years in medical school, another two in residency and another 2 years in honing his neurological skills in specialty training.

On the other hand, where my brain has blown a gasket... and I am carted into a Operating Room where he takes an hour of his time to carve open my skull and suture the tear in my brain... and I wake up, not only still alive but with the very strong likelihood that I will get up out of that bed and return to a normal life...

The value of THAT LABOR IS BEYOND MY MEANS TO EVER REPAY... The value is immeasurable. Of course in tangible terms, the hourly rate is tens of thousands of dollars. Same guy... two entirely different consequences relevant to the time at issue.

You would have me pay the good Dr. $15 for his time texting his bestees, when he should have been changing my oil... and giving away his time where such is spent doing things which neither you nor I could begin to do.

The result of which, will be that NO ONE gets their oil changed, because it cost the same to change oil as it does to hire someone to text their friends... and NO ONE is going to go through the trouble of a lifetime of unimaginable discipline and struggle to do AMAZING things, because ya make less than the guy banking $15 PER to TEXT HIS ASSHAT BUDDIES!

So, in my view... it's bad idea.

 

[blackhawk]

I can honestly say I have never seen another poster on this board left or right wing who is as full of themselves as you.

 

[Billy000]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

Is the climate changing? Of course, it always is. Did humans cause it? Doubt it. To many instances of change in the past when humans couldn't have affected it. Your side blindly accepts that we should turn our lived upside down based on speculation and claim that people that don't agree with you are blindly listening to dogma and then are shocked that you're not listened to on issues. Your blind fear is not reason to panic. Sorry.

We've seen your side raise the minimum wage time after time and no one ever benefits because the cost is passed on to the consumer and all that happens is that prices go up and everyone is worse off. You see everyone is worse off and demand another minimum wage increase which will also be passed on to consumers and so prices go up and everyone will be even worse off.

You're like a blind fool who is shocked that people think for themselves and don't agree with you.

We'll address what you said here in the next post. Answer my question. Would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Most businesses are paying higher than minimum wage. Govt is always behind. There is no need to do anything about climate change. Its been changing for millions of years. Its absolutely embarrassing listening to such arrogance that we have any significant bearing on the climate.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I can honestly say I have never seen another poster on this board left or right wing who is as full of themselves as you.

I couldn't help but to notice that ya didn't cite a position to which you were responding... try to muster the courage to do so.

It really helps to move the conversation along.

 

[hunarcy]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

Is the climate changing? Of course, it always is. Did humans cause it? Doubt it. To many instances of change in the past when humans couldn't have affected it. Your side blindly accepts that we should turn our lived upside down based on speculation and claim that people that don't agree with you are blindly listening to dogma and then are shocked that you're not listened to on issues. Your blind fear is not reason to panic. Sorry.

We've seen your side raise the minimum wage time after time and no one ever benefits because the cost is passed on to the consumer and all that happens is that prices go up and everyone is worse off. You see everyone is worse off and demand another minimum wage increase which will also be passed on to consumers and so prices go up and everyone will be even worse off.

You're like a blind fool who is shocked that people think for themselves and don't agree with you.

We'll address what you said here in the next post. Answer my question. Would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

My preferences are irrelevant. We have one. We are now dealing with its result. But, the reality is that most don't make minimum wage because the market pays people for their skills and productivity.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

I'll just repeat the direct and unambiguous response:

America... is a concept, not a place.

You're likely referring to the United States... which, like everywhere else in the universe, is subject to the universal wage for minimal labor, which is ZERO.

The idiocy which raises the rate for zero labor to some level above zero serves ONLY as a means to devalue whatever is used as an exchange for such.

Now for instance... I can hire a neurologist to change my oil. If he sits on his ass for an hour, texting his feelings about what an asshole I am... how hot it is, what he wants to do when he gets off 'work'. And I return to find my old oil still resting inside my engine... then that labor has resulted in zero gain for me, therefore its value to me is zero. (It is literally less than Zero, in that I lost the time I invested in trying to get my oil changed. HE OWES ME MONEY FOR MY TIME!)

This without regard to his four years in college, another four years in medical school, another two in residency and another 2 years in honing his neurological skills in specialty training.

On the other hand, where my brain has blown a gasket... and I am carted into a Operating Room where he takes an hour of his time to carve open my skull and suture the tear in my brain... and I wake up, not only still alive but with the very strong likelihood that I will get up out of that bed and return to a normal life...

The value of THAT LABOR IS BEYOND MY MEANS TO EVER REPAY... The value is immeasurable. Of course in tangible terms, the hourly rate is tens of thousands of dollars. Same guy... two entirely different consequences relevant to the time at issue.

You would have me pay the good Dr. $15 for his time texting his bestees, when he should have been changing my oil... and giving away his time where such is spent doing things which neither you nor I could begin to do.

The result of which, will be that NO ONE gets their oil changed, because it cost the same to change oil as it does to hire someone to text their friends... and NO ONE is going to go through the trouble of a lifetime of unimaginable discipline and struggle to do AMAZING things, because ya make less than the guy banking $15 PER to TEXT HIS ASSHAT BUDDIES!

So, in my view... it's bad idea.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

we don't support government tyranny, that's why we are against such things.

and please, give a list of things your leftist leaders support but you don't.

and none of this "do it harder" crap, b/c you know they will eventually

 

[Billy000]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

Is the climate changing? Of course, it always is. Did humans cause it? Doubt it. To many instances of change in the past when humans couldn't have affected it. Your side blindly accepts that we should turn our lived upside down based on speculation and claim that people that don't agree with you are blindly listening to dogma and then are shocked that you're not listened to on issues. Your blind fear is not reason to panic. Sorry.

We've seen your side raise the minimum wage time after time and no one ever benefits because the cost is passed on to the consumer and all that happens is that prices go up and everyone is worse off. You see everyone is worse off and demand another minimum wage increase which will also be passed on to consumers and so prices go up and everyone will be even worse off.

You're like a blind fool who is shocked that people think for themselves and don't agree with you.

We'll address what you said here in the next post. Answer my question. Would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

My preferences are irrelevant. We have one. We are now dealing with its result. But, the reality is that most don't make minimum wage because the market pays people for their skills and productivity.

Ok forget your preferences. How do you think America would fair if it never had a minimum wage to begin with?

This price increase you refer to greatly depends on how much the minimum wage is raised and how it is raised. For instance, if the minimum wage was increased to 10.10 over the course of a few years, the price increase would be pennies on the dollar. Not only that, but the prices would stabilize over time because of the increase of consumer demand from bigger paychecks. This economy is fueled by consumer spending. Wages depend on it. There is no evidence there was any significant economic harm caused by raising the minimum wage in the past. Raising the wage really has to do with inflation. The last time someone could live comfortably off 10.10 per hour was the 1960s. Currently 18 million people earn less than 10.10 per hour. Don't you think that's a problem?

 

[Billy000]

Would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

I'll just repeat the direct and unambiguous response:

America... is a concept, not a place.

You're likely referring to the United States... which, like everywhere else in the universe, is subject to the universal wage for minimal labor, which is ZERO.

The idiocy which raises the rate for zero labor to some level above zero serves ONLY as a means to devalue whatever is used as an exchange for such.

Now for instance... I can hire a neurologist to change my oil. If he sits on his ass for an hour, texting his feelings about what an asshole I am... how hot it is, what he wants to do when he gets off 'work'. And I return to find my old oil still resting inside my engine... then that labor has resulted in zero gain for me, therefore its value to me is zero. (It is literally less than Zero, in that I lost the time I invested in trying to get my oil changed. HE OWES ME MONEY FOR MY TIME!)

This without regard to his four years in college, another four years in medical school, another two in residency and another 2 years in honing his neurological skills in specialty training.

On the other hand, where my brain has blown a gasket... and I am carted into a Operating Room where he takes an hour of his time to carve open my skull and suture the tear in my brain... and I wake up, not only still alive but with the very strong likelihood that I will get up out of that bed and return to a normal life...

The value of THAT LABOR IS BEYOND MY MEANS TO EVER REPAY... The value is immeasurable. Of course in tangible terms, the hourly rate is tens of thousands of dollars. Same guy... two entirely different consequences relevant to the time at issue.

You would have me pay the good Dr. $15 for his time texting his bestees, when he should have been changing my oil... and giving away his time where such is spent doing things which neither you nor I could begin to do.

The result of which, will be that NO ONE gets their oil changed, because it cost the same to change oil as it does to hire someone to text their friends... and NO ONE is going to go through the trouble of a lifetime of unimaginable discipline and struggle to do AMAZING things, because ya make less than the guy banking $15 PER to TEXT HIS ASSHAT BUDDIES!

So, in my view... it's bad idea.

Lol if someone is a shitty worker, they get fired as usual. If they do their job full time and do it well, they deserve a wage they can live off of. It's that simple.

 

[hunarcy]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

Is the climate changing? Of course, it always is. Did humans cause it? Doubt it. To many instances of change in the past when humans couldn't have affected it. Your side blindly accepts that we should turn our lived upside down based on speculation and claim that people that don't agree with you are blindly listening to dogma and then are shocked that you're not listened to on issues. Your blind fear is not reason to panic. Sorry.

We've seen your side raise the minimum wage time after time and no one ever benefits because the cost is passed on to the consumer and all that happens is that prices go up and everyone is worse off. You see everyone is worse off and demand another minimum wage increase which will also be passed on to consumers and so prices go up and everyone will be even worse off.

You're like a blind fool who is shocked that people think for themselves and don't agree with you.

We'll address what you said here in the next post. Answer my question. Would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

My preferences are irrelevant. We have one. We are now dealing with its result. But, the reality is that most don't make minimum wage because the market pays people for their skills and productivity.

Ok forget your preferences. How do you think America would fair if it never had a minimum wage to begin with?

This price increase you refer to greatly depends on how much the minimum wage is raised and how it is raised. For instance, if the minimum wage was increased to 10.10 over the course of a few years, the price increase would be pennies on the dollar. Not only that, but the prices would stabilize over time because of the increase of consumer demand from bigger paychecks. This economy is fueled by consumer spending. Wages depend on it. There is no evidence there was any significant economic harm caused by raising the minimum wage in the past. Raising the wage really has to do with inflation. The last time someone could live comfortably off 10.10 per hour was the 1960s. Currently 18 million people earn less than 10.10 per hour. Don't you think that's a problem?

In 1938, the minimum wage was 40 cents an hour and you could go to the movies and buy popcorn for a quarter. Now, minimum wage is over $7.00 an hour and a movie and popcorn costs over $25.00. So, no matter how you frame it, the end result is that when you increase costs, you create inflation and your claim that there is no evidence that there's economic harm is false on its face.

You are basing your argument on Alan Krueger and David Card's study, but they ignored the fact that Businesses must raise prices to compensate for the additional expense. When compared to what happens nationally, merely studying New Jersey did not lead to valid conclusions. Now, look at the real world results of restaurants in Seattle. Look at what happened to fast food restaurants on military bases due to the increase in minimum wages.

 

[Billy000]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

Is the climate changing? Of course, it always is. Did humans cause it? Doubt it. To many instances of change in the past when humans couldn't have affected it. Your side blindly accepts that we should turn our lived upside down based on speculation and claim that people that don't agree with you are blindly listening to dogma and then are shocked that you're not listened to on issues. Your blind fear is not reason to panic. Sorry.

We've seen your side raise the minimum wage time after time and no one ever benefits because the cost is passed on to the consumer and all that happens is that prices go up and everyone is worse off. You see everyone is worse off and demand another minimum wage increase which will also be passed on to consumers and so prices go up and everyone will be even worse off.

You're like a blind fool who is shocked that people think for themselves and don't agree with you.

We'll address what you said here in the next post. Answer my question. Would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

My preferences are irrelevant. We have one. We are now dealing with its result. But, the reality is that most don't make minimum wage because the market pays people for their skills and productivity.

Ok forget your preferences. How do you think America would fair if it never had a minimum wage to begin with?

This price increase you refer to greatly depends on how much the minimum wage is raised and how it is raised. For instance, if the minimum wage was increased to 10.10 over the course of a few years, the price increase would be pennies on the dollar. Not only that, but the prices would stabilize over time because of the increase of consumer demand from bigger paychecks. This economy is fueled by consumer spending. Wages depend on it. There is no evidence there was any significant economic harm caused by raising the minimum wage in the past. Raising the wage really has to do with inflation. The last time someone could live comfortably off 10.10 per hour was the 1960s. Currently 18 million people earn less than 10.10 per hour. Don't you think that's a problem?

In 1938, the minimum wage was 40 cents an hour and you could go to the movies and buy popcorn for a quarter. Now, minimum wage is over $7.00 an hour and a movie and popcorn costs over $25.00. So, no matter how you frame it, the end result is that when you increase costs, you create inflation and your claim that there is no evidence that there's economic harm is false on its face.

You are basing your argument on Alan Krueger and David Card's study, but they ignored the fact that Businesses must raise prices to compensate for the additional expense. When compared to what happens nationally, merely studying New Jersey did not lead to valid conclusions. Now, look at the real world results of restaurants in Seattle. Look at what happened to fast food restaurants on military bases due to the increase in minimum wages.

You're automatically assuming the reason for the rise in product prices is directly related to the min wage. It doesn't work like that. For one thing you are forgetting how the economy works. It thrives on consumer spending. If people are spending more money because they are paid more, businesses do better. That helps keep prices down over time even if there is an initial raise. Sure particular businesses that are forced to pay more will raise their prices, but not any business.

 

[SAYIT]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

What is your obsession with a federal minimum wage? Didn't Walmart's recent decision to increase it's internal minimum to $10/hr by next year expose the silliness of a gov't mandated one. Do we really need Washington to waste time on a matter that really is none of their biz?

 

[chikenwing]

Would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

I'll just repeat the direct and unambiguous response:

America... is a concept, not a place.

You're likely referring to the United States... which, like everywhere else in the universe, is subject to the universal wage for minimal labor, which is ZERO.

The idiocy which raises the rate for zero labor to some level above zero serves ONLY as a means to devalue whatever is used as an exchange for such.

Now for instance... I can hire a neurologist to change my oil. If he sits on his ass for an hour, texting his feelings about what an asshole I am... how hot it is, what he wants to do when he gets off 'work'. And I return to find my old oil still resting inside my engine... then that labor has resulted in zero gain for me, therefore its value to me is zero. (It is literally less than Zero, in that I lost the time I invested in trying to get my oil changed. HE OWES ME MONEY FOR MY TIME!)

This without regard to his four years in college, another four years in medical school, another two in residency and another 2 years in honing his neurological skills in specialty training.

On the other hand, where my brain has blown a gasket... and I am carted into a Operating Room where he takes an hour of his time to carve open my skull and suture the tear in my brain... and I wake up, not only still alive but with the very strong likelihood that I will get up out of that bed and return to a normal life...

The value of THAT LABOR IS BEYOND MY MEANS TO EVER REPAY... The value is immeasurable. Of course in tangible terms, the hourly rate is tens of thousands of dollars. Same guy... two entirely different consequences relevant to the time at issue.

You would have me pay the good Dr. $15 for his time texting his bestees, when he should have been changing my oil... and giving away his time where such is spent doing things which neither you nor I could begin to do.

The result of which, will be that NO ONE gets their oil changed, because it cost the same to change oil as it does to hire someone to text their friends... and NO ONE is going to go through the trouble of a lifetime of unimaginable discipline and struggle to do AMAZING things, because ya make less than the guy banking $15 PER to TEXT HIS ASSHAT BUDDIES!

So, in my view... it's bad idea.

Lol if someone is a shitty worker, they get fired as usual. If they do their job full time and do it well, they deserve a wage they can live off of. It's that simple.

So a kd flipping burgers should be able to make a mortgage payment on an average priced home?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Would you prefer it if America never had a minimum wage in the first place?

I'll just repeat the direct and unambiguous response:

America... is a concept, not a place.

You're likely referring to the United States... which, like everywhere else in the universe, is subject to the universal wage for minimal labor, which is ZERO.

The idiocy which raises the rate for zero labor to some level above zero serves ONLY as a means to devalue whatever is used as an exchange for such.

Now for instance... I can hire a neurologist to change my oil. If he sits on his ass for an hour, texting his feelings about what an asshole I am... how hot it is, what he wants to do when he gets off 'work'. And I return to find my old oil still resting inside my engine... then that labor has resulted in zero gain for me, therefore its value to me is zero. (It is literally less than Zero, in that I lost the time I invested in trying to get my oil changed. HE OWES ME MONEY FOR MY TIME!)

This without regard to his four years in college, another four years in medical school, another two in residency and another 2 years in honing his neurological skills in specialty training.

On the other hand, where my brain has blown a gasket... and I am carted into a Operating Room where he takes an hour of his time to carve open my skull and suture the tear in my brain... and I wake up, not only still alive but with the very strong likelihood that I will get up out of that bed and return to a normal life...

The value of THAT LABOR IS BEYOND MY MEANS TO EVER REPAY... The value is immeasurable. Of course in tangible terms, the hourly rate is tens of thousands of dollars. Same guy... two entirely different consequences relevant to the time at issue.

You would have me pay the good Dr. $15 for his time texting his bestees, when he should have been changing my oil... and giving away his time where such is spent doing things which neither you nor I could begin to do.

The result of which, will be that NO ONE gets their oil changed, because it cost the same to change oil as it does to hire someone to text their friends... and NO ONE is going to go through the trouble of a lifetime of unimaginable discipline and struggle to do AMAZING things, because ya make less than the guy banking $15 PER to TEXT HIS ASSHAT BUDDIES!

So, in my view... it's bad idea.

Lol if someone is a shitty worker, they get fired as usual. If they do their job full time and do it well, they deserve a wage they can live off of. It's that simple.

The individual will be paid what he is WORTH TO THE PERSON PAYING THEM. Which is NOT something that you or anyone else has a right to speak to... unless you've a vested interest in the business and are directly liable for the obligations and liabilities OF that business.

No one is forcing anyone to work for any business... thus the employee is the one who CHOOSES TO ACCEPT THE JOB, FOR THE BEST WAGE FOR WHICH THEY CAN BARGAIN.

If the employee needs $75K to pay their bills and accepts a job for $50k... they need to pair down their expenses, or... get ANOTHER job to pick up the slack.

 

[bripat9643]

Would average joe RWs be on board?

How about climate change?

Average joe republicans are very impressionable. They blindly listen to any republican dogma. I am honestly convinced repubs are against certain issues like taking action on climate change and raising the minimum wage simply because the repub leaders in power tell them to be against it. They don't think for themselves.

While we're pretending, let's pretend that liberals believe in capitalism and support the Constitution . . . . Nah, that's too farfetched. No one could possibly imagine it.

The Republican leadership would endorse AGW and the minimum wage if "Average Joe Republicans" would let them get away with it. You're delusional about who is leading who around by a ring through the nose.