Letting gun criminals out of jail is why we have gun crime in this country...

2aguy

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A classic example of why we have gun crime in the United States.....and it isn't because law abiding people can own and carry guns....

Had this guy been kept in jail for 30 years for the various gun crimes he committed....these officers would still be alive....

Judge Ignored Warning Not To Release Deputy French's Killer - Then He Shot Three Officers

In response, U.S. Assistant Attorney Brian Faerstein warned Judge Kim about releasing Littlecloud. He said that Littlecloud had been in and out of jail for 12 years, and cited case after case that showed Littlecloud fired guns at victims, and did whatever he had to do to get away from the police and justice, including ramming police cars.


Faerstein told Judge Sallie Kim that they had recordings of Littlecloud threatening to shoot police, and that it was a “consistent” pattern with him.

He said, “The defendant has three prior firearms convictions and yet, here again, he was carrying a gun and had another gun in his car in the same bag as where, you know, over 75 grams of pure meth was found. This is conduct that is continuing and it’s, it’s, he’s not learning from his past mistakes.”

However, Judge Kim refused to listen to prosecutors, or consider the evidence in front her (Littlecloud’s criminal history), and released him. She said that she had “misgivings,” and it would only take “one violation” to send Littlecloud straight back to jail.


He was apparently supposed to go to the New Bridge Foundation drug and alcohol rehabilitation on Monday, August 28, but records show that he did not complete treatment. He also did not go back to federal court.

And on August 30, a multi-agency auto theft task force was conducting an investigation at the Ramada Inn and was going to search a room connected to an auto theft ring. Littlecloud opened fire on officers through the door and walls, striking two CHP officers.

If the anti gunners cared more about stopping gun crime, and less about punishing law abiding gun owners, this guy would never have been out of jail....
 
A classic example of why we have gun crime in the United States.....and it isn't because law abiding people can own and carry guns....

Had this guy been kept in jail for 30 years for the various gun crimes he committed....these officers would still be alive....

Judge Ignored Warning Not To Release Deputy French's Killer - Then He Shot Three Officers
Controlling the American population is what gun control is all about… Progressives are too cowardly to try and do it the legal way...
 
This guy got a gun........how? California has the strictest gun laws in the country......
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?
Firearms have Thought control?
 
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I have been preaching it for years and this story testifies!

"Gun Control" has NOTHING to do with public safety. It is all about disarming the entire county, period. %50 of the violent sociopaths we have in prison would have been executed by any other country not controlled by bed wetters. Yet bed wetting judges let them out either aware of the chaos they will create or oblivious.

The regressive agenda is to create chaos and lawlessness. Use tragedies to further the disarmament agenda.
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?
Firearms have Though control?

Rustic

"... Though [sic] control?"

Guns do not kill people.
People kill people.

Memorize it.
 
What about having 400+ million guns in the country? That have anything to do with how easy it is for criminals to get guns?
 
This guy got a gun........how? California has the strictest gun laws in the country......
California murder rate is HALF of pro-gun Missouri--HALF
LA murder rate way below pro-gun St Louis
this is all crosschecked by STL being the murder capital of the US
St. Louis named murder capital of America – Report
so the pro-gun state has a much higher murder rate than California
also, California has a much larger population and higher density.....
 
A classic example of why we have gun crime in the United States.....and it isn't because law abiding people can own and carry guns....

Had this guy been kept in jail for 30 years for the various gun crimes he committed....these officers would still be alive....

Judge Ignored Warning Not To Release Deputy French's Killer - Then He Shot Three Officers

In response, U.S. Assistant Attorney Brian Faerstein warned Judge Kim about releasing Littlecloud. He said that Littlecloud had been in and out of jail for 12 years, and cited case after case that showed Littlecloud fired guns at victims, and did whatever he had to do to get away from the police and justice, including ramming police cars.


Faerstein told Judge Sallie Kim that they had recordings of Littlecloud threatening to shoot police, and that it was a “consistent” pattern with him.

He said, “The defendant has three prior firearms convictions and yet, here again, he was carrying a gun and had another gun in his car in the same bag as where, you know, over 75 grams of pure meth was found. This is conduct that is continuing and it’s, it’s, he’s not learning from his past mistakes.”

However, Judge Kim refused to listen to prosecutors, or consider the evidence in front her (Littlecloud’s criminal history), and released him. She said that she had “misgivings,” and it would only take “one violation” to send Littlecloud straight back to jail.


He was apparently supposed to go to the New Bridge Foundation drug and alcohol rehabilitation on Monday, August 28, but records show that he did not complete treatment. He also did not go back to federal court.

And on August 30, a multi-agency auto theft task force was conducting an investigation at the Ramada Inn and was going to search a room connected to an auto theft ring. Littlecloud opened fire on officers through the door and walls, striking two CHP officers.

If the anti gunners cared more about stopping gun crime, and less about punishing law abiding gun owners, this guy would never have been out of jail....
Just right wing special pleading; you cannot lower taxes and build more prisons.
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?
Firearms have Thought control?

Luddly's comments are nothing more than the typical blame the object that can't shoots itself and ignore the person required for it to kill.
 
here:
very pro-gun St louis city and county population 1,320, 000 murders 250 2015
LA County population 10,100,000 murders 650 2015
!!!!! almost 10 times the population but less than a third of the murder rate
so, the gun control is working...or how do you explain it?
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?

Where has 2A Guy ever said he thinks convicted felons and the mentally ill to be able to buy guns?
 
here:
very pro-gun St louis city and county population 1,320, 000 murders 250 2015
LA County population 10,100,000 murders 650 2015
!!!!! almost 10 times the population but less than a third of the murder rate
so, the gun control is working...or how do you explain it?

The very anti gun CA has more murders per 100000 people than the very pro gun state of UT

So it seems gun laws don't lower the murder rate

And FYI Missouri is middle of the pack among states as far as the strictness of their gun laws are concerned

Ranking states with the strictest gun laws - PoliticIt

So compare the murder rate between the state with the strictest gun laws, CA, to the state with the most lax gun laws, UT, and tell me what you see.
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?
You mean political correctness? That's all on you and the liberal liars like you.
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?
Firearms have Though control?


"... Though [sic] control?"

Guns do not kill people.
People kill people.

Memorize it.
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?
Firearms have Thought control?

Luddly's comments are nothing more than the typical blame the object that can't shoots itself and ignore the person required for it to kill.

Conservative65

Please read this earlier post.

Looks to me like it agrees that "the object .. can't shoots [sic] itself".
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?

Where has 2A Guy ever said he thinks convicted felons and the mentally ill to be able to buy guns?


Gosh Skull Pilot ... Are you really saying that 2aguy has advocated for laws to control the sale of guns to convicted felons, mentally ill?

How about known or suspected, foreign and domestic terrorists?

Post the proof. Thanks.
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?
You mean political correctness? That's all on you and the liberal liars like you.


There was just a mass murder in your neck of the woods. 8 gunned down in Dallas.

How politically correct is that?
 
As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?

Where has 2A Guy ever said he thinks convicted felons and the mentally ill to be able to buy guns?


Gosh Skull Pilot ... Are you really saying that 2aguy has advocated for laws to control the sale of guns to convicted felons, mentally ill?

How about known or suspected, foreign and domestic terrorists?

Post the proof. Thanks.

I asked you a question so it's not up to me to provide the answer it's up to the person AKA YOU who stated that 2A Guy wants felons to be able to buy guns to prove it.

Known terrorists are the ones who have been tried and convicted so they can't legally purchase guns.

Suspected terrorists? And who are these "suspected terrorists"? Some guy who was put on a do not fly list because his legal name is similar to someone that some government analyst hack thinks might maybe be a terrorist? Or some guy who posted the wrong thing on a message board?

Do you really want to live in a country where the government keeps secret lists of people so the government can skirt due process and deny rights to anyone on the list with no requirement to notify the person being put on the list and no due process before that person's rights are denied?
 
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As long as guns are available, easy to buy and very cheap -
As long as we have for-profit prisons that don't even pretend to"rehabilitate" -
As long as judges have to deal with over crowding and an enormous back-up of cases -

And several other problems in our "system" -

This is what you get.

The OP posts the same crap every day. He wants everybody to have easy access to any fucking gun they want but he and has never been able to make a case for passing out guns like they're Halloween candy.

When will the gun nutters take responsibility for the monster they have created?
You mean political correctness? That's all on you and the liberal liars like you.


There was just a mass murder in your neck of the woods. 8 gunned down in Dallas.

How politically correct is that?

It's clear to me that those murders were caused by a football game so maybe we should ban football
 

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