Liberal extremism isn't a new thing..

[Father Time]

would you be saying "well they shouldn't have been speeding".

Yes....if the person took some personal responsibility and obeyed the law then the cop wouldn't have ever pulled the person over to put a beating on the person...got that? Personal responsibility.

So if someone commits some minor crime it's ok for the state to perform any kind of abuse it wants to?

That's fucked up and it sounds so very statist.

 

[Father Time]

So are the cops who shoot criminals who attack them to blame for those deaths?

If they only throw rocks at them then yes.

We have methods of subduing people with nonlethal force.

 

[Bill O'Olberman]

So are the cops who shoot criminals who attack them to blame for those deaths?

If those bullets go astray and kill random people who were in no way related to the attack (like a college student just walking around her campus), they most certainly are to blame for those deaths.

 

[Father Time]

Sorry....you are sadly misguided....one is taught morals by their parents...one of those morals is personal responsibility.....this means that one must consider the consequences of ones actions...on himself as well as people around them.

Unless they happen to be in the Ohio National Guard then they can do whatever they want and not be held responsible isn't that right?

If they behaved, stayed sober and acted responsibly this incident never would have happened. PERIOD.

I could say the same thing about the Ohio national guard and it was their hands who pulled the trigger not the hippies.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

would you be saying "well they shouldn't have been speeding".

Yes....if the person took some personal responsibility and obeyed the law then the cop wouldn't have ever pulled the person over to put a beating on the person...got that? Personal responsibility.

So if someone commits some minor crime it's ok for the state to perform any kind of abuse it wants to?

That's fucked up and it sounds so very statist.

Are you classified as an idiot yet? You should be....why do you insist on blaming "the man" for everything. Why did the lawbreaker commit a minor crime? That's what you should be addressing instead of a hypothetical beating a cop puts on someone who has no sense of personal responsibility.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Sorry....you are sadly misguided....one is taught morals by their parents...one of those morals is personal responsibility.....this means that one must consider the consequences of ones actions...on himself as well as people around them.

Unless they happen to be in the Ohio National Guard then they can do whatever they want and not be held responsible isn't that right?

If they behaved, stayed sober and acted responsibly this incident never would have happened. PERIOD.

I could say the same thing about the Ohio national guard and it was their hands who pulled the trigger not the hippies.

It's "da man" who did it man..."da man"...he be everywhere fuckin' up ma chi!!!!!!

 

[AllieBaba]

would you be saying "well they shouldn't have been speeding".

Yes....if the person took some personal responsibility and obeyed the law then the cop wouldn't have ever pulled the person over to put a beating on the person...got that? Personal responsibility.

So if someone commits some minor crime it's ok for the state to perform any kind of abuse it wants to?

That's fucked up and it sounds so very statist.

Since when is taking over a campus, attacking law enforcement and others, torching buildings and trees, a MINOR CRIME????

 

[PatekPhilippe]

So are the cops who shoot criminals who attack them to blame for those deaths?

According to these 2 embicile's(Father time and Olberman) logic posting here...yes.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Yes....if the person took some personal responsibility and obeyed the law then the cop wouldn't have ever pulled the person over to put a beating on the person...got that? Personal responsibility.

So if someone commits some minor crime it's ok for the state to perform any kind of abuse it wants to?

That's fucked up and it sounds so very statist.

Since when is taking over a campus, attacking law enforcement and others, torching buildings and trees, a MINOR CRIME????

It's minor when committed by a left wing loon...it's a death penalty case when committed by a Christian or right winger.

 

[Father Time]

Yes....if the person took some personal responsibility and obeyed the law then the cop wouldn't have ever pulled the person over to put a beating on the person...got that? Personal responsibility.

So if someone commits some minor crime it's ok for the state to perform any kind of abuse it wants to?

That's fucked up and it sounds so very statist.

Are you classified as an idiot yet? You should be....why do you insist on blaming "the man" for everything.

The man in this case CHOSE to pull the trigger. They CHOSE to fire on the kids. It was their hand on the fucking trigger.

Why did the lawbreaker commit a minor crime?

Why should they not get in trouble for killing someone who committed a minor crime?

That's what you should be addressing instead of a hypothetical beating a cop puts on someone who has no sense of personal responsibility.

I'm just trying to understand your logic and it's a clear case of victim blaming. You're the type of asshole who would justify murderers with 'well they had it coming'.

 

[Father Time]

Yes....if the person took some personal responsibility and obeyed the law then the cop wouldn't have ever pulled the person over to put a beating on the person...got that? Personal responsibility.

So if someone commits some minor crime it's ok for the state to perform any kind of abuse it wants to?

That's fucked up and it sounds so very statist.

Since when is taking over a campus, attacking law enforcement and others, torching buildings and trees, a MINOR CRIME????

I was talking about my hypothetical 'guy gets caught speeding then gets assaulted' scenario. Do try to keep up.

 

[Luissa]

Yes....if the person took some personal responsibility and obeyed the law then the cop wouldn't have ever pulled the person over to put a beating on the person...got that? Personal responsibility.

So if someone commits some minor crime it's ok for the state to perform any kind of abuse it wants to?

That's fucked up and it sounds so very statist.

Since when is taking over a campus, attacking law enforcement and others, torching buildings and trees, a MINOR CRIME????

They shot two people who were not even part of the protest, and I am pretty sure the fires were two days before the shootings. It also might have been a little different if they had fired when they had thrown the rocks, but in reality it was after the students had been pushed back. There is no good reason why those students should have been shot.

I also think it is hilarious people stick up Randy Weaver and Waco, but Kent State is bad.

 

[Father Time]

Sorry....you are sadly misguided....one is taught morals by their parents...one of those morals is personal responsibility.....this means that one must consider the consequences of ones actions...on himself as well as people around them.

Unless they happen to be in the Ohio National Guard then they can do whatever they want and not be held responsible isn't that right?

If they behaved, stayed sober and acted responsibly this incident never would have happened. PERIOD.

I could say the same thing about the Ohio national guard and it was their hands who pulled the trigger not the hippies.

It's "da man" who did it man..."da man"...he be everywhere fuckin' up ma chi!!!!!!

When you have no other arguments just stick your fingers in your ear and convince yourself it's them who are crazy not you.

 

[AllieBaba]

So if someone commits some minor crime it's ok for the state to perform any kind of abuse it wants to?

That's fucked up and it sounds so very statist.

Are you classified as an idiot yet? You should be....why do you insist on blaming "the man" for everything.

The man in this case CHOSE to pull the trigger. They CHOSE to fire on the kids. It was their hand on the fucking trigger.

Why did the lawbreaker commit a minor crime?

Why should they not get in trouble for killing someone who committed a minor crime?

That's what you should be addressing instead of a hypothetical beating a cop puts on someone who has no sense of personal responsibility.

I'm just trying to understand your logic and it's a clear case of victim blaming. You're the type of asshole who would justify murderers with 'well they had it coming'.

And you're a piece of shit who thinks it's okay to take over a campus, torch buildings and property, and attack the police.

Are you a fan of Manson's, too?

 

[Luissa]

Sorry....you are sadly misguided....one is taught morals by their parents...one of those morals is personal responsibility.....this means that one must consider the consequences of ones actions...on himself as well as people around them. These SDS anti-war ass clowns brought it all on themselves...they have blood on their hands. If they behaved, stayed sober and acted responsibly this incident never would have happened. PERIOD.

So you would agree that if Randy Weaver had shown up to court when he was ordered to, he could have prevented Ruby Ridge? And that he should take responsiblity for his actions?

 

[Bill O'Olberman]

So if someone commits some minor crime it's ok for the state to perform any kind of abuse it wants to?

That's fucked up and it sounds so very statist.

Since when is taking over a campus, attacking law enforcement and others, torching buildings and trees, a MINOR CRIME????

It's minor when committed by a left wing loon...it's a death penalty case when committed by a Christian or right winger.

I believe most liberals oppose the death penatly and a prerequisite for the death penalty is that someone would have to have murdered another.

Why are you not holding the guardsman to a standard of personal responsibility where they are responsible for the bullets that came from their guns that struck unarmed, non violent students on their college campus who were commiting no such crimes? If the college students they shot posed a mortal threat to them I would feel differently.

 

[Luissa]

Are you classified as an idiot yet? You should be....why do you insist on blaming "the man" for everything.

The man in this case CHOSE to pull the trigger. They CHOSE to fire on the kids. It was their hand on the fucking trigger.



Why should they not get in trouble for killing someone who committed a minor crime?

That's what you should be addressing instead of a hypothetical beating a cop puts on someone who has no sense of personal responsibility.

I'm just trying to understand your logic and it's a clear case of victim blaming. You're the type of asshole who would justify murderers with 'well they had it coming'.

And you're a piece of shit who thinks it's okay to take over a campus, torch buildings and property, and attack the police.

Are you a fan of Manson's, too?

You have gone off your rocker.
For one they did not torch buildings the day they were shot at, plus two of the people who were shot were not even part of the protest. It is also been said that some of the guardsman shot in the air and the ground, so obviously they knew what they were doing was wrong.

 

[AllieBaba]

Sorry....you are sadly misguided....one is taught morals by their parents...one of those morals is personal responsibility.....this means that one must consider the consequences of ones actions...on himself as well as people around them. These SDS anti-war ass clowns brought it all on themselves...they have blood on their hands. If they behaved, stayed sober and acted responsibly this incident never would have happened. PERIOD.

So you would agree that if Randy Weaver had shown up to court when he was ordered to, he could have prevented Ruby Ridge? And that he should take responsiblity for his actions?

You equate failure to appear with arson?

 

[AllieBaba]

Does it bother you at all that Ayers said Kent was "ripe" for an event?

You guys are flipping sheep and deserve whatever you get, I swear.

 

[Father Time]

Are you classified as an idiot yet? You should be....why do you insist on blaming "the man" for everything.

The man in this case CHOSE to pull the trigger. They CHOSE to fire on the kids. It was their hand on the fucking trigger.



Why should they not get in trouble for killing someone who committed a minor crime?

That's what you should be addressing instead of a hypothetical beating a cop puts on someone who has no sense of personal responsibility.

I'm just trying to understand your logic and it's a clear case of victim blaming. You're the type of asshole who would justify murderers with 'well they had it coming'.

And you're a piece of shit who thinks it's okay to take over a campus, torch buildings and property, and attack the police.

Are you a fan of Manson's, too?

Nice attempt at shit throwing although the ones they shot at weren't burning down buildings, or taking over campus, they were simply protesting and throwing rocks.

One group was throwing rocks the other fired bullets, it's not exactly comparable.