Liberalism and Limitless Welfare: An Explanation.

[Where_r_my_Keys]

liberals... “What can I do today so that there’s a little less suffering in the world?”

Liberals think with their heart, not their brain. They use their brains for some things, but not for political thought. The welfare programs exist for one purpose, to get liberals/demonrats elected. If poverty were to end, look at all the votes the liberal/demonrats would lose? It would be a disaster. Liberal programs exist not to end poverty, but to increase it, and thereby increase the political power of the left.

"Liberals" are relativists...

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's culture, society, historical context relative to one's on life, thus such can never be subject to soundly reasoned absolutes.

As a result, Liberals axiomatically reject objective reasoning, which is why truth is irrelevant to Liberals: Objectivity is essential to truth, trust, morality and justice.

Now look around your country, only 6 years after "Liberals" took power... Do you see any traces of truth, trust, morality or justice?

THAT's why... .

And when did conservatives behave differently, when they were in power?

Conservatives?

Can't be a conservative and behave in such a manner. Perhaps you're referring to Republicans, of the Progressive variety... .


We, the Americans, are working day and night to rid out party of the evil..., it ain't easy, but we're culling them as quickly as possible, within the current environment.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

American liberalism, based upon the welfare state, merely uses welfare payments as an alternative to prison. There is no American effort to actually eliminate poverty through job creation and better labor laws.

In that respect, American "liberals," "conservatives," and corporatists are exactly on the same page.

What 'better labor laws' are going to produce higher wages? Be specific.

Those would be labor laws of the "Few and Far-in-between" variety. Wherein people are free to bargain for the best rate they can get for the skills they bring to the table.

"Laws" generally serve to artificially sustain the 'value' of the low-2-no skill labor. Pay someone to remain poorly skilled and as a general rule, they will remain poorly skilled, and as a result: POORLY PAID.

 

[eagle1462010]

Congratulations, Eagle and PC. Your seemingly endless pool of free time has successfully sucked all oxygen from this conversation. I would suggest that some of your right wing windbags on USMB find useful employment somewhere to clear their heads.

Thanks for the congratulations.......appreciate it........................Now counter the data or shut up.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Congratulations, Eagle and PC. Your seemingly endless pool of free time has successfully sucked all oxygen from this conversation. I would suggest that some of your right wing windbags on USMB find useful employment somewhere to clear their heads.

Thanks for the congratulations.......appreciate it........................Now counter the data or shut up.

Beautifully put... NAILED IT!

 

[NYcarbineer]

American liberalism, based upon the welfare state, merely uses welfare payments as an alternative to prison. There is no American effort to actually eliminate poverty through job creation and better labor laws.

In that respect, American "liberals," "conservatives," and corporatists are exactly on the same page.

What 'better labor laws' are going to produce higher wages? Be specific.

Those would be labor laws of the "Few and Far-in-between" variety. Wherein people are free to bargain for the best rate they can get for the skills they bring to the table.

"Laws" generally serve to artificially sustain the 'value' of the low-2-no skill labor. Pay someone to remain poorly skilled and as a general rule, they will remain poorly skilled, and as a result: POORLY PAID.

Who are you to decide what 'low skilled labor' should be paid?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

American liberalism, based upon the welfare state, merely uses welfare payments as an alternative to prison. There is no American effort to actually eliminate poverty through job creation and better labor laws.

In that respect, American "liberals," "conservatives," and corporatists are exactly on the same page.

What 'better labor laws' are going to produce higher wages? Be specific.

Those would be labor laws of the "Few and Far-in-between" variety. Wherein people are free to bargain for the best rate they can get for the skills they bring to the table.

"Laws" generally serve to artificially sustain the 'value' of the low-2-no skill labor. Pay someone to remain poorly skilled and as a general rule, they will remain poorly skilled, and as a result: POORLY PAID.

Who are you to decide what 'low skilled labor' should be paid?

LOL!

Seriously?

Nature provides that Low-Skill brings provides for low production, which provides for low potential for profit, which warrants low compensation.

See how that works?

 

[NYcarbineer]

American liberalism, based upon the welfare state, merely uses welfare payments as an alternative to prison. There is no American effort to actually eliminate poverty through job creation and better labor laws.

In that respect, American "liberals," "conservatives," and corporatists are exactly on the same page.

What 'better labor laws' are going to produce higher wages? Be specific.

Those would be labor laws of the "Few and Far-in-between" variety. Wherein people are free to bargain for the best rate they can get for the skills they bring to the table.

"Laws" generally serve to artificially sustain the 'value' of the low-2-no skill labor. Pay someone to remain poorly skilled and as a general rule, they will remain poorly skilled, and as a result: POORLY PAID.

Who are you to decide what 'low skilled labor' should be paid?

LOL!

Seriously?

Nature provides that Low-Skill brings provides for low production, which provides for low potential for profit, which warrants low compensation.

See how that works?

So American labor will be properly priced when they make the same as the Chinese, or the Cambodians?

 

[eagle1462010]

American liberalism, based upon the welfare state, merely uses welfare payments as an alternative to prison. There is no American effort to actually eliminate poverty through job creation and better labor laws.

In that respect, American "liberals," "conservatives," and corporatists are exactly on the same page.

What 'better labor laws' are going to produce higher wages? Be specific.

Those would be labor laws of the "Few and Far-in-between" variety. Wherein people are free to bargain for the best rate they can get for the skills they bring to the table.

"Laws" generally serve to artificially sustain the 'value' of the low-2-no skill labor. Pay someone to remain poorly skilled and as a general rule, they will remain poorly skilled, and as a result: POORLY PAID.

Who are you to decide what 'low skilled labor' should be paid?

LOL!

Seriously?

Nature provides that Low-Skill brings provides for low production, which provides for low potential for profit, which warrants low compensation.

See how that works?

So American labor will be properly priced when they make the same as the Chinese, or the Cambodians?

yadda yadda yadda

No one is saying this, only your side in defense of your ideology..................

I posted a long time ago that only a small percentage of Americans make minimum wage..............6% via the census data.................

Meaning that 94% make more than minimum wage already.

So if your rhetoric was correct then the whole dang populations would making minimum wage RIGHT NOW.

They don't do they....................and your position on we'd be making the same as Chineese is ridiculous.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

What 'better labor laws' are going to produce higher wages? Be specific.

with 40 million new jobs there would be plenty of upward pressure on wages!!


1) Make unions illegal ( 10 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

2) make minimum wage illegal ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

3) end business taxation; especially tax incentives to off-shore jobs ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

4) make inflation illegal ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

5) make Federal debt illegal( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

6) send illegal workers home(8 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

7) Pass Balanced Budget Amendment to Constitution( 3 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

8) cut pay of government workers in half( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

9) Make health insurance competition legal( 6 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

10) end needless business regulations ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

11) restrict Federal spending to 15% of GNP( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

12) support unlimited free trade( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

13) reduced unemployment compensation, welfare, food stamps, medicaid.( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

14) privatize education, social security ( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

15) end payroll taxes ( 1 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

Since Democrats always oppose wisdom and common sense the only serious option is to make them illegal as the Constitution intended

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

What 'better labor laws' are going to produce higher wages? Be specific.

Those would be labor laws of the "Few and Far-in-between" variety. Wherein people are free to bargain for the best rate they can get for the skills they bring to the table.

"Laws" generally serve to artificially sustain the 'value' of the low-2-no skill labor. Pay someone to remain poorly skilled and as a general rule, they will remain poorly skilled, and as a result: POORLY PAID.

Who are you to decide what 'low skilled labor' should be paid?

LOL!

Seriously?

Nature provides that Low-Skill brings provides for low production, which provides for low potential for profit, which warrants low compensation.

See how that works?

So American labor will be properly priced when they make the same as the Chinese, or the Cambodians?

yadda yadda yadda

No one is saying this, only your side in defense of your ideology..................

I posted a long time ago that only a small percentage of Americans make minimum wage..............6% via the census data.................

Meaning that 94% make more than minimum wage already.

So if your rhetoric was correct then the whole dang populations would making minimum wage RIGHT NOW.

They don't do they....................and your position on we'd be making the same as Chineese is ridiculous.

So true... .

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

American liberalism, based upon the welfare state, merely uses welfare payments as an alternative to prison. There is no American effort to actually eliminate poverty through job creation and better labor laws.

In that respect, American "liberals," "conservatives," and corporatists are exactly on the same page.

What 'better labor laws' are going to produce higher wages? Be specific.

Those would be labor laws of the "Few and Far-in-between" variety. Wherein people are free to bargain for the best rate they can get for the skills they bring to the table.

"Laws" generally serve to artificially sustain the 'value' of the low-2-no skill labor. Pay someone to remain poorly skilled and as a general rule, they will remain poorly skilled, and as a result: POORLY PAID.

Who are you to decide what 'low skilled labor' should be paid?

LOL!

Seriously?

Nature provides that Low-Skill brings provides for low production, which provides for low potential for profit, which warrants low compensation.

See how that works?

So American labor will be properly priced when they make the same as the Chinese, or the Cambodians?

Oh please... Your obtuse retorts are as lame as they are tiresome.

The appropriate 'minimum wage' is zero. That you exist does not a liability on my part make. The sooner you come to recognize that fact, the sooner you become something more than a parasite.

Here's hoping it's sooner, rather than later. We've got all the dead weight we can carry.