Liberals Aren’t Liking This Newly-Discovered Photo Of The 1924 Democratic Convention…

[bripat9643]

Leftwing propaganda.

Nope. Recorded history.

Maine was a big state for the Klan, and in that state Republicans owned politics in the same way the Democrats owned Louisiana. Owen Brewster was a strongly-Klan-backed candidate who won offices of Governor, Congressman and Senator, and a close ally of Joe McCarthy.

What that meant was that the Klan political faction in Maine was Republican, and the anti-Klan political faction in Maine was also Republican. The Democrats of course seized on the Klan connections but their state infrastructure was weak. Same sort of intra-party division was going on around the same time in Kansas, where Ben Paulen took the Republican governor nomination (and the office) over other Republican elements that wanted to condemn the Klan.

Paulen's predecessor Henry Allen had been trying to oust the Klan out of Kansas a few years prior, the same time as Gov. Jack Walton of neighboring Oklahoma was trying to oust them out of that state. Allen was a Republican, Walton a Democrat.

The Klan, in that period of political activity, split political parties that way --- which was actually what this thread could have been about if it hadn't started with a picture from Madison Wisconsin claiming it was the Democratic convention in New York City.

Acording to who, this Chalmer's guy? I read his book about Standard Oil, and it's total communist bullshit. You'll have to find a credible source if you want anyone to believe what you post about the KKK.

 

[bripat9643]

The top picture is from Madison, Wisconsin. The Democratic convention was in New York City.

DESCRIPTION
Ku Klux Klan (KKK) wearing conic masks and white robes parading down King Street to Schroeder Funeral Home for the funeral of Police officer Herbert Dreger. Dreger was shot to death in "Death's Corner" (South Murray Street) on December 2, 1924.
RECORD DETAILS
Image ID: 1902
Creation Date: 1924-12-05
Creator Name: Vinje, Arthur M., 1888-1972
City: Madison
County: Dane
State: Wisconsin
Collection Name: Vinje, Arthur M. : Photographs and Negatives-
Genre: Photograph
Original Format Type: photographic print, b&w
Original Format Number: CF 67957
Original Dimensions: 10 x 8 inches

Ku Klux Klan Parade | Photograph | Wisconsin Historical Society

What a moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So the top photograph was mis-sourced, that doesn't change the fact that there's historical records, showing that a large amount of Klan members were at the 1924 convention. It was called the Klanbake for a reason. A little more than half of the convention attendees were KKK and/or KKK supporters, as in that convention, they voted on whether or not to condemn the KKK; 542.85 in favor, 546.15 against. After which, the KKK celebrated by burning crosses and such.

Uh ----nnnnnnnnnnnno. And we already did this about a week ago or whenever it was I discovered this bogus-OP thread.

"Klanbake" was the Klan gathering, without Dodge Challengers oddly enough, in New Jersey across the river from the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Inside that convention there was much debate about that denounce-the-Klan platform, with Sen. Oscar Underwood and Gov. Al Smith leading the charge. Underwood was the time's loudest voice denouncing the KKK declaring that it and the US could not co-exist. And Smith was a Catholic, one of the Klan's target groups.

Klan influence was backing William Gibbs McAdoo of California who had not sought, but also did not reject, their support. By locking up nomination votes over and over that convention became the longest one ever in history, a record that still stands, necessitating over 100 votes. Finally the lock was broken with a dark horse candidate that was seen as not offensive to either side, Gov. John Davis of West Virginia. Davis accepted the nomination ---- and promptly denounced the Klan anyway.

The KKK ended up endorsing Calvin Coolidge that fall, the only major candidate that did not publicly denounce the KKK, and Herbert Hoover four years later, running smear campaigns against Al Smith which I have detailed elsewhere, because Smith was still Catholic.

The abject carelessness of the sourced article running an image from Madison Wisconsin and claiming it's a New York political convention taking place on trolley tracks is also undermined by its spelling Oscar Underwood's name as "Forney Johnston". That was a real person but in 1924 he was neither in New York nor in Wisconsin, mainly owing to the fact that he had been dead for a decade.

--- which just underscores that morons like Finger-Boi will run with any fake news they think says what they like, without ever vetting it.

The epilogue to that never-ending convention deadlock drama --- the conservative wing was able to deadlock all those 100+ ballots because the party at the time required a 2/3 majority for nomination. So all you needed to block was 33% plus one. Franklin Roosevelt put an end to that 12 years later when, at the height of his power while running for re-election in 1936, he got the rules changed to a simple majority (50% plus one). That ensured there would be no more 1924s and the next time the South wanted to block the flow, in 1948 the first election after World War Two, they were unable to do so under the new rules, walked out, and ran their own campaign. That was the "Dixiecrats", Strom Thurmond and Fielding Wright.

The next time Thurmond came up for Senate re-election he found himself kicked off the ballot and had to run as a write-in (which he won).

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

There's nothing conservative about racism, shit stain. That claim is nothing more than leftwing bigotry.

 

[bripat9643]

Uh ----nnnnnnnnnnnno. And we already did this about a week ago or whenever it was I discovered this bogus-OP thread.

"Klanbake" was the Klan gathering, without Dodge Challengers oddly enough, in New Jersey across the river from the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Inside that convention there was much debate about that denounce-the-Klan platform, with Sen. Oscar Underwood and Gov. Al Smith leading the charge. Underwood was the time's loudest voice denouncing the KKK declaring that it and the US could not co-exist. And Smith was a Catholic, one of the Klan's target groups.

Klan influence was backing William Gibbs McAdoo of California who had not sought, but also did not reject, their support. By locking up nomination votes over and over that convention became the longest one ever in history, a record that still stands, necessitating over 100 votes. Finally the lock was broken with a dark horse candidate that was seen as not offensive to either side, Gov. John Davis of West Virginia. Davis accepted the nomination ---- and promptly denounced the Klan anyway.

The KKK ended up endorsing Calvin Coolidge that fall, the only major candidate that did not publicly denounce the KKK, and Herbert Hoover four years later, running smear campaigns against Al Smith which I have detailed elsewhere, because Smith was still Catholic.

The abject carelessness of the sourced article running an image from Madison Wisconsin and claiming it's a New York political convention taking place on trolley tracks is also undermined by its spelling Oscar Underwood's name as "Forney Johnston". That was a real person but in 1924 he was neither in New York nor in Wisconsin, mainly owing to the fact that he had been dead for a decade.

--- which just underscores that morons like Finger-Boi will run with any fake news they think says what they like, without ever vetting it.

The epilogue to that never-ending convention deadlock drama --- the conservative wing was able to deadlock all those 100+ ballots because the party at the time required a 2/3 majority for nomination. So all you needed to block was 33% plus one. Franklin Roosevelt put an end to that 12 years later when, at the height of his power while running for re-election in 1936, he got the rules changed to a simple majority (50% plus one). That ensured there would be no more 1924s and the next time the South wanted to block the flow, in 1948 the first election after World War Two, they were unable to do so under the new rules, walked out, and ran their own campaign. That was the "Dixiecrats", Strom Thurmond and Fielding Wright.

The next time Thurmond came up for Senate re-election he found himself kicked off the ballot and had to run as a write-in (which he won).

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

Oh, so it's a way for the left to blame everyone but themselves, got it. And what exactly makes racism "Conservative"?

It has nothing to do with "the left". It has to do with that conservative wing. You asked what made them the conservative wing. They clearly were not the Liberal one.

Being a conservative does not in itself make one racist. But in order to be a racist, one must be conservative.

Utter horseshit.

 

[Stratford57]

Uh ----nnnnnnnnnnnno. And we already did this about a week ago or whenever it was I discovered this bogus-OP thread.

"Klanbake" was the Klan gathering, without Dodge Challengers oddly enough, in New Jersey across the river from the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Inside that convention there was much debate about that denounce-the-Klan platform, with Sen. Oscar Underwood and Gov. Al Smith leading the charge. Underwood was the time's loudest voice denouncing the KKK declaring that it and the US could not co-exist. And Smith was a Catholic, one of the Klan's target groups.

Klan influence was backing William Gibbs McAdoo of California who had not sought, but also did not reject, their support. By locking up nomination votes over and over that convention became the longest one ever in history, a record that still stands, necessitating over 100 votes. Finally the lock was broken with a dark horse candidate that was seen as not offensive to either side, Gov. John Davis of West Virginia. Davis accepted the nomination ---- and promptly denounced the Klan anyway.

The KKK ended up endorsing Calvin Coolidge that fall, the only major candidate that did not publicly denounce the KKK, and Herbert Hoover four years later, running smear campaigns against Al Smith which I have detailed elsewhere, because Smith was still Catholic.

The abject carelessness of the sourced article running an image from Madison Wisconsin and claiming it's a New York political convention taking place on trolley tracks is also undermined by its spelling Oscar Underwood's name as "Forney Johnston". That was a real person but in 1924 he was neither in New York nor in Wisconsin, mainly owing to the fact that he had been dead for a decade.

--- which just underscores that morons like Finger-Boi will run with any fake news they think says what they like, without ever vetting it.

The epilogue to that never-ending convention deadlock drama --- the conservative wing was able to deadlock all those 100+ ballots because the party at the time required a 2/3 majority for nomination. So all you needed to block was 33% plus one. Franklin Roosevelt put an end to that 12 years later when, at the height of his power while running for re-election in 1936, he got the rules changed to a simple majority (50% plus one). That ensured there would be no more 1924s and the next time the South wanted to block the flow, in 1948 the first election after World War Two, they were unable to do so under the new rules, walked out, and ran their own campaign. That was the "Dixiecrats", Strom Thurmond and Fielding Wright.

The next time Thurmond came up for Senate re-election he found himself kicked off the ballot and had to run as a write-in (which he won).

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

Oh, so it's a way for the left to blame everyone but themselves, got it. And what exactly makes racism "Conservative"?

It has nothing to do with "the left". It has to do with that conservative wing. You asked what made them the conservative wing. They clearly were not the Liberal one.

Being a conservative does not in itself make one racist. But in order to be a racist, one must be conservative.

Conservatives are not racists,

So many posts, Pogo, and all of them are mainly BS. Too much of liberal Media, Pogo. Your brains are slipping away from you. Go, go, go, gone....

Suggestion: stop listening to liberal Media and start reading the Bible.

 

[RodISHI]

So many posts, Pogo, and all of them are mainly BS. Too much of liberal Media, Pogo. Your brains are slipping away from you. Go, go, go, gone....

Suggestion: stop listening to liberal Media and start reading the Bible.

Excellent advice but pogi is an anti so perhaps a wasted effort.

 

[Faun]

So the top photograph was mis-sourced, that doesn't change the fact that there's historical records, showing that a large amount of Klan members were at the 1924 convention. It was called the Klanbake for a reason. A little more than half of the convention attendees were KKK and/or KKK supporters, as in that convention, they voted on whether or not to condemn the KKK; 542.85 in favor, 546.15 against. After which, the KKK celebrated by burning crosses and such.

Uh ----nnnnnnnnnnnno. And we already did this about a week ago or whenever it was I discovered this bogus-OP thread.

"Klanbake" was the Klan gathering, without Dodge Challengers oddly enough, in New Jersey across the river from the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Inside that convention there was much debate about that denounce-the-Klan platform, with Sen. Oscar Underwood and Gov. Al Smith leading the charge. Underwood was the time's loudest voice denouncing the KKK declaring that it and the US could not co-exist. And Smith was a Catholic, one of the Klan's target groups.

Klan influence was backing William Gibbs McAdoo of California who had not sought, but also did not reject, their support. By locking up nomination votes over and over that convention became the longest one ever in history, a record that still stands, necessitating over 100 votes. Finally the lock was broken with a dark horse candidate that was seen as not offensive to either side, Gov. John Davis of West Virginia. Davis accepted the nomination ---- and promptly denounced the Klan anyway.

The KKK ended up endorsing Calvin Coolidge that fall, the only major candidate that did not publicly denounce the KKK, and Herbert Hoover four years later, running smear campaigns against Al Smith which I have detailed elsewhere, because Smith was still Catholic.

The abject carelessness of the sourced article running an image from Madison Wisconsin and claiming it's a New York political convention taking place on trolley tracks is also undermined by its spelling Oscar Underwood's name as "Forney Johnston". That was a real person but in 1924 he was neither in New York nor in Wisconsin, mainly owing to the fact that he had been dead for a decade.

--- which just underscores that morons like Finger-Boi will run with any fake news they think says what they like, without ever vetting it.

The epilogue to that never-ending convention deadlock drama --- the conservative wing was able to deadlock all those 100+ ballots because the party at the time required a 2/3 majority for nomination. So all you needed to block was 33% plus one. Franklin Roosevelt put an end to that 12 years later when, at the height of his power while running for re-election in 1936, he got the rules changed to a simple majority (50% plus one). That ensured there would be no more 1924s and the next time the South wanted to block the flow, in 1948 the first election after World War Two, they were unable to do so under the new rules, walked out, and ran their own campaign. That was the "Dixiecrats", Strom Thurmond and Fielding Wright.

The next time Thurmond came up for Senate re-election he found himself kicked off the ballot and had to run as a write-in (which he won).

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

There's nothing conservative about racism, shit stain. That claim is nothing more than leftwing bigotry.

Spits the moron who actually posted a photo from a KKK march in Wisconsin and tried to fool the forum into believing it was from the 1924 DNC in New York.

 

[bripat9643]

Uh ----nnnnnnnnnnnno. And we already did this about a week ago or whenever it was I discovered this bogus-OP thread.

"Klanbake" was the Klan gathering, without Dodge Challengers oddly enough, in New Jersey across the river from the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Inside that convention there was much debate about that denounce-the-Klan platform, with Sen. Oscar Underwood and Gov. Al Smith leading the charge. Underwood was the time's loudest voice denouncing the KKK declaring that it and the US could not co-exist. And Smith was a Catholic, one of the Klan's target groups.

Klan influence was backing William Gibbs McAdoo of California who had not sought, but also did not reject, their support. By locking up nomination votes over and over that convention became the longest one ever in history, a record that still stands, necessitating over 100 votes. Finally the lock was broken with a dark horse candidate that was seen as not offensive to either side, Gov. John Davis of West Virginia. Davis accepted the nomination ---- and promptly denounced the Klan anyway.

The KKK ended up endorsing Calvin Coolidge that fall, the only major candidate that did not publicly denounce the KKK, and Herbert Hoover four years later, running smear campaigns against Al Smith which I have detailed elsewhere, because Smith was still Catholic.

The abject carelessness of the sourced article running an image from Madison Wisconsin and claiming it's a New York political convention taking place on trolley tracks is also undermined by its spelling Oscar Underwood's name as "Forney Johnston". That was a real person but in 1924 he was neither in New York nor in Wisconsin, mainly owing to the fact that he had been dead for a decade.

--- which just underscores that morons like Finger-Boi will run with any fake news they think says what they like, without ever vetting it.

The epilogue to that never-ending convention deadlock drama --- the conservative wing was able to deadlock all those 100+ ballots because the party at the time required a 2/3 majority for nomination. So all you needed to block was 33% plus one. Franklin Roosevelt put an end to that 12 years later when, at the height of his power while running for re-election in 1936, he got the rules changed to a simple majority (50% plus one). That ensured there would be no more 1924s and the next time the South wanted to block the flow, in 1948 the first election after World War Two, they were unable to do so under the new rules, walked out, and ran their own campaign. That was the "Dixiecrats", Strom Thurmond and Fielding Wright.

The next time Thurmond came up for Senate re-election he found himself kicked off the ballot and had to run as a write-in (which he won).

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

There's nothing conservative about racism, shit stain. That claim is nothing more than leftwing bigotry.

Spits the moron who actually posted a photo from a KKK march in Wisconsin and tried to fool the forum into believing it was from the 1924 DNC in New York.

That doesn't prove your claim, shit stain.

 

[Faun]

The epilogue to that never-ending convention deadlock drama --- the conservative wing was able to deadlock all those 100+ ballots because the party at the time required a 2/3 majority for nomination. So all you needed to block was 33% plus one. Franklin Roosevelt put an end to that 12 years later when, at the height of his power while running for re-election in 1936, he got the rules changed to a simple majority (50% plus one). That ensured there would be no more 1924s and the next time the South wanted to block the flow, in 1948 the first election after World War Two, they were unable to do so under the new rules, walked out, and ran their own campaign. That was the "Dixiecrats", Strom Thurmond and Fielding Wright.

The next time Thurmond came up for Senate re-election he found himself kicked off the ballot and had to run as a write-in (which he won).

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

There's nothing conservative about racism, shit stain. That claim is nothing more than leftwing bigotry.

Spits the moron who actually posted a photo from a KKK march in Wisconsin and tried to fool the forum into believing it was from the 1924 DNC in New York.

That doesn't prove your claim, shit stain.

I already gave you a link which showed the origins of that photo.

Meanwhile, you have zero evidence that photo was from the 1924 DNC. You're just fucking crazy.

Here's a second link to demonstrate what a retard you are...

Dry times were not good times

... want more...?

 

[monkeytrots]

Oh, a believer of the "Party Switch" that never happened.

There's no consistency to the election trends in the first place: Historical U.S. Presidential Elections 1789-2016
In fact, when someone wins, most of the time, it's practically the entire US that voted for them.

False. In 1924, the year referenced in the OP, the states that supported the confederacy during the civil war (the conservative states that voted for Trump in '16) voted Democratic.
The states that opposed slavery voted for the Republican.
(most of these same liberal states voted for Hillary).

I just gave you a history lesson. This thread bike up on the conservatives' faces.
KKK was founded by conservatives (southern democrats) and continues to be loved by conservatives (today's Republicans).

Actually the Klan was founded originally by ex-soldiers who had no political party, and fifty years later re-founded by a con artist with also no known political affiliations. They may have their tendencies from one time and place to another but both of them insisted they were non-political.

No doubt insisted that while murdering Republicans.

Nope. Actually the original founders were out for nothing more than a joke. All that violence stuff came on after it was taken over from them. And at the time there were literally dozens of such groups.

And the second one that went much bigger and coast-to-coast, was a con artist out to milk membership money from the gullible, because he saw what a sensation "Birth of a Nation" was. Wouldn't have made sense to be murdering Republicans at the same time they were endorsing them.

You must be thinking of a different KKK, entirely, then, because the KKK I'm thinking of, the anti-black group, murdered blacks and Republicans.

Pumpkin, You are correct. Pogo is a very accomplished disinformation person. Most of his so-called clan history appears to be from internet sites from a 'kkk history' post. A lot of it appears to be from this site (note sites often plagiarize each other, using unattributed sources, unchecked facts and so on - so this might not be the exact site from which he posts such a distorted and UNTRUTHFUL history of the clan.)

Note - this is BULLCRAP : The Ku Klux Klan, 1868

I wil quote just a bit so you can see the similarity to pogo's first 'post' on the issue (no, I won't even bother rating his post as funny, or replying to him - consider him nothing but a leftist troll - a very skilled one - but a troll none-the-less - just like nycarbineer. extreme high number of posts- just means they've hung around for a long time- ratings - well- always take them with a huge dosing of NaCl.)

The FOLLOWING IS COMPLETE HORSE HOCKEY:
Its very name struck terror in the hearts of its victims. However, the beginning of the Ku Klux Klan was innocent enough. In December 1865, eight months after the South’s surrender, a group of six young men living in the village of Pulaski near Nashville, Tennessee decided to relieve their boredom by organizing a social club. All were veterans of the Confederate Army and some had attended college where fraternities with three-letter, Greek-based names were popular. In mock-imitation, they came up with the alliterative title Ku Klux Klan for their group. Their meetings would be secret and devoted to elaborate ceremonies. Members would disguise themselves with a costume made up of a sheet to cover their bodies, fanciful masks to hide their faces and pointed headgear that heightened their stature. Their leader would be known as the Grand Cyclops.

Although their motives may have been innocent, the appearance of these white-sheeted, horse-mounted apparitions on the town’s darkened streets triggered a panic-driven flight for safety by the community’s recently freed slaves. Soon, terrorizing Blacks became a prime sport and the transition of the KKK from an innocuous social club to a ruthless vigilance committee began.

Transmitted by word-of-mouth and newspaper articles; knowledge of the Klan rapidly spread through the South. Post-war conditions in the former Confederacy were chaotic. The rapid expansion of the Klan was fueled by a wide-spread fear among many Southern Whites of an insurrection by former slaves and seething resentment against Northern “carpet-baggers” who had invaded the South since the end of the war. Local organizations mimicking the original group’s secrecy and costumes sprang up in various communities.

---- End of Bovine Excrement ....

My radar on this guy went off immediately with p's first post - it reeked of bs.

I had studied the origins of the Clan more than 40 years ago, written a paper on it, and NOTHING in that origination story by p's was in accord with my recollection. Oh, and let me beat p' to the punch - before the inevitable "Well you've been a clan sympathizer and interested in them since being very young" ... kinda like what the Internet Mob has already done to that kid in Charlottesville over his studying of 'nazis'. During the time I researched the Clan - It was during the civil rights days of MLK and all that was going on here in the United States. The kkk was in the news daily. I was not living in the US, but with my military family - stationed in Japan. Discrimination and racism were something totally alien to me - it flat did not occur in the military at that time. It was severely punished when found - the officer's and NCO's would not allow it. Keeping up with the 'states' required us to READ, a lot, to understand what was going on. Who the hell were the 'kkk' ? Well, I read- BOOKS - to find out. Not the freaking internet.

But, bein' an old fart, held my fire, checked my memory, and found some GOOD sources that can't be denied by intelligent researchers.

Will post that in next reply - will be to your same message Pumpkin.

 

[bripat9643]

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

There's nothing conservative about racism, shit stain. That claim is nothing more than leftwing bigotry.

Spits the moron who actually posted a photo from a KKK march in Wisconsin and tried to fool the forum into believing it was from the 1924 DNC in New York.

That doesn't prove your claim, shit stain.

I already gave you a link which showed the origins of that photo.

Meanwhile, you have zero evidence that photo was from the 1924 DNC. You're just fucking crazy.

Here's a second link to demonstrate what a retard you are...

Dry times were not good times

... want more...?

How does any of that prove racism is conservative, dumbass?

One thing is clear: you lack the ability to commit logic. You haven't got the slightest idea whether any given argument is true or false. That's why you're a snowflake. Anyone who can reason is conservative. Leftwingers are all witless baboons.

 

[monkeytrots]

Oh, a believer of the "Party Switch" that never happened.

There's no consistency to the election trends in the first place: Historical U.S. Presidential Elections 1789-2016
In fact, when someone wins, most of the time, it's practically the entire US that voted for them.

False. In 1924, the year referenced in the OP, the states that supported the confederacy during the civil war (the conservative states that voted for Trump in '16) voted Democratic.
The states that opposed slavery voted for the Republican.
(most of these same liberal states voted for Hillary).

I just gave you a history lesson. This thread bike up on the conservatives' faces.
KKK was founded by conservatives (southern democrats) and continues to be loved by conservatives (today's Republicans).

Actually the Klan was founded originally by ex-soldiers who had no political party, and fifty years later re-founded by a con artist with also no known political affiliations. They may have their tendencies from one time and place to another but both of them insisted they were non-political.

No doubt insisted that while murdering Republicans.

Nope. Actually the original founders were out for nothing more than a joke. All that violence stuff came on after it was taken over from them. And at the time there were literally dozens of such groups.

And the second one that went much bigger and coast-to-coast, was a con artist out to milk membership money from the gullible, because he saw what a sensation "Birth of a Nation" was. Wouldn't have made sense to be murdering Republicans at the same time they were endorsing them.

You must be thinking of a different KKK, entirely, then, because the KKK I'm thinking of, the anti-black group, murdered blacks and Republicans.

Continued from previous reply... Well, my recollection on the origins of the kkk were that it sprang out of vigilante groups in the post-Civil War years. Civil Authority and local governments and all infrastructure had been devastated by the war. Sherman's March of genocide, pillaging, raping, looting, and burning had left a huge swath of destruction and lawlessness in it's wake. The vigilante groups were a necessity for ANY form of law and order. But, as with any group that does not answer to 'We the People', they got ugly in a hurry.

Interlude: Pumpkin - your post is correct - they did concentrate on killing blacks and REPUBLICANS - the original clan was DEFINITELY political, and most solidly DEMOCRAT. The carpet baggers from the North were overwhelmingly REPUBLICAN - a despicable subset of thieves and jackals- which exist in BOTH parties today.

Here is a resource, used by librarians, that lists several books on the history of the kkk. Books are far preferrable- they can be fact checked, and books printed on paper can't disappear, be changed, and require the outlay of considerable money for publishing - thus they tend to be quite a bit better at being fact checked than flimsy internet articles (and I include wikipedia on ALL social/history/political issues in the category of next to worthless anymore.)

List of books and articles about Ku Klux Klan | Online Research Library: Questia

That page starts with a summary from:
The Columbia Encyclopedia, 6th ed. Copyright© 2017, The Columbia University Press.

I used to prefer Collier's - good, solid, well researched and written encyclopedia - but Columbia will do. Check their list of resources listed at the bottom of the article they wrote on the origin's of the Clan.

Anyways a brief excerpt of the encyclopedic research:

The First Ku Klux Klan

The original Ku Klux Klan was organized by ex-Confederate elements to oppose the Reconstruction policies of the radical Republican Congress and to maintain "white supremacy." After the Civil War, when local government in the South was weak or nonexistent and there were fears of black outrages and even of an insurrection, informal vigilante organizations or armed patrols were formed in almost all communities. These were linked together in societies, such as the Men of Justice, the Pale Faces, the Constitutional Union Guards, the White Brotherhood, and the Order of the White Rose. The Ku Klux Klan was the best known of these, and in time it absorbed many of the smaller organizations.

It was organized at Pulaski, Tenn., in May, 1866. Its strange disguises, its silent parades, its midnight rides, its mysterious language and commands, were found to be most effective in playing upon fears and superstitions. The riders muffled their horses' feet and covered the horses with white robes. They themselves, dressed in flowing white sheets, their faces covered with white masks, and with skulls at their saddle horns, posed as spirits of the Confederate dead returned from the battlefields. Although the Klan was often able to achieve its aims by terror alone, whippings and lynchings were also used, not only against blacks but also against the so-called carpetbaggers and scalawags.

end excerpt - recommend reading the entire entry - and maybe search for a gutenberg.org e-book or two (the older the better, less chance of current revisionist history books.

Anywhooze... The above is ACCURATE HISTORY unlike the bizarre crap that Pogo was posting about it having arisen from some Frat Boy prank.

Ciao: Pumpkin - good posts. Appreciated them. Might check in - but this thread is pretty well exhausted - many TRUTHS have been exposed in this thread - but the longer it goes on, the more deeply they become buried. Which is precisely the objective of the Saul Alinsky-ites that have been posting so much garbage here.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

The top picture is from Madison, Wisconsin. The Democratic convention was in New York City.

DESCRIPTION
Ku Klux Klan (KKK) wearing conic masks and white robes parading down King Street to Schroeder Funeral Home for the funeral of Police officer Herbert Dreger. Dreger was shot to death in "Death's Corner" (South Murray Street) on December 2, 1924.
RECORD DETAILS
Image ID: 1902
Creation Date: 1924-12-05
Creator Name: Vinje, Arthur M., 1888-1972
City: Madison
County: Dane
State: Wisconsin
Collection Name: Vinje, Arthur M. : Photographs and Negatives-
Genre: Photograph
Original Format Type: photographic print, b&w
Original Format Number: CF 67957
Original Dimensions: 10 x 8 inches

Ku Klux Klan Parade | Photograph | Wisconsin Historical Society

What a moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So the top photograph was mis-sourced, that doesn't change the fact that there's historical records, showing that a large amount of Klan members were at the 1924 convention. It was called the Klanbake for a reason. A little more than half of the convention attendees were KKK and/or KKK supporters, as in that convention, they voted on whether or not to condemn the KKK; 542.85 in favor, 546.15 against. After which, the KKK celebrated by burning crosses and such.

Uh ----nnnnnnnnnnnno. And we already did this about a week ago or whenever it was I discovered this bogus-OP thread.

"Klanbake" was the Klan gathering, without Dodge Challengers oddly enough, in New Jersey across the river from the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Inside that convention there was much debate about that denounce-the-Klan platform, with Sen. Oscar Underwood and Gov. Al Smith leading the charge. Underwood was the time's loudest voice denouncing the KKK declaring that it and the US could not co-exist. And Smith was a Catholic, one of the Klan's target groups.

Klan influence was backing William Gibbs McAdoo of California who had not sought, but also did not reject, their support. By locking up nomination votes over and over that convention became the longest one ever in history, a record that still stands, necessitating over 100 votes. Finally the lock was broken with a dark horse candidate that was seen as not offensive to either side, Gov. John Davis of West Virginia. Davis accepted the nomination ---- and promptly denounced the Klan anyway.

The KKK ended up endorsing Calvin Coolidge that fall, the only major candidate that did not publicly denounce the KKK, and Herbert Hoover four years later, running smear campaigns against Al Smith which I have detailed elsewhere, because Smith was still Catholic.

The abject carelessness of the sourced article running an image from Madison Wisconsin and claiming it's a New York political convention taking place on trolley tracks is also undermined by its spelling Oscar Underwood's name as "Forney Johnston". That was a real person but in 1924 he was neither in New York nor in Wisconsin, mainly owing to the fact that he had been dead for a decade.

--- which just underscores that morons like Finger-Boi will run with any fake news they think says what they like, without ever vetting it.

The epilogue to that never-ending convention deadlock drama --- the conservative wing was able to deadlock all those 100+ ballots because the party at the time required a 2/3 majority for nomination. So all you needed to block was 33% plus one. Franklin Roosevelt put an end to that 12 years later when, at the height of his power while running for re-election in 1936, he got the rules changed to a simple majority (50% plus one). That ensured there would be no more 1924s and the next time the South wanted to block the flow, in 1948 the first election after World War Two, they were unable to do so under the new rules, walked out, and ran their own campaign. That was the "Dixiecrats", Strom Thurmond and Fielding Wright.

The next time Thurmond came up for Senate re-election he found himself kicked off the ballot and had to run as a write-in (which he won).

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

You can prove your allegations or is this just a pathetic attempt to win the discussion by throwing out the race card?

*****SMILE*****

 

[Faun]

Racism mostly.

There's nothing conservative about racism, shit stain. That claim is nothing more than leftwing bigotry.

Spits the moron who actually posted a photo from a KKK march in Wisconsin and tried to fool the forum into believing it was from the 1924 DNC in New York.

That doesn't prove your claim, shit stain.

I already gave you a link which showed the origins of that photo.

Meanwhile, you have zero evidence that photo was from the 1924 DNC. You're just fucking crazy.

Here's a second link to demonstrate what a retard you are...

Dry times were not good times

... want more...?

How does any of that prove racism is conservative, dumbass?

One thing is clear: you lack the ability to commit logic. You haven't got the slightest idea whether any given argument is true or false. That's why you're a snowflake. Anyone who can reason is conservative. Leftwingers are all witless baboons.

Moron, need I remind you, you idiotically posted a photo from Madison, Wisconsin and falsely claimed it was from thd 1924 DNC in New York, held at Madison Square Garden?

You really are retarded enough to confuse Madison, Wisconsin with Madison Square Garden.

 

[Pogo]

The epilogue to that never-ending convention deadlock drama --- the conservative wing was able to deadlock all those 100+ ballots because the party at the time required a 2/3 majority for nomination. So all you needed to block was 33% plus one. Franklin Roosevelt put an end to that 12 years later when, at the height of his power while running for re-election in 1936, he got the rules changed to a simple majority (50% plus one). That ensured there would be no more 1924s and the next time the South wanted to block the flow, in 1948 the first election after World War Two, they were unable to do so under the new rules, walked out, and ran their own campaign. That was the "Dixiecrats", Strom Thurmond and Fielding Wright.

The next time Thurmond came up for Senate re-election he found himself kicked off the ballot and had to run as a write-in (which he won).

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

Oh, so it's a way for the left to blame everyone but themselves, got it. And what exactly makes racism "Conservative"?

It has nothing to do with "the left". It has to do with that conservative wing. You asked what made them the conservative wing. They clearly were not the Liberal one.

Being a conservative does not in itself make one racist. But in order to be a racist, one must be conservative.

Conservatives are not racists,

Correct. Conservatism has nothing to do directly with racism. But to be a racist you first have to believe in striated social classes. That's why Liberalism can't dabble in racism. They oppose each other.

Suggestion: stop listening to liberal Media and start reading the Bible.

Already did. it's amusing, if you like violence and smiting and rape and slavery.
I like to think we've moved on though. And I really don't see a point in horror movies or fearmongering.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

False. In 1924, the year referenced in the OP, the states that supported the confederacy during the civil war (the conservative states that voted for Trump in '16) voted Democratic.
The states that opposed slavery voted for the Republican.
(most of these same liberal states voted for Hillary).

I just gave you a history lesson. This thread bike up on the conservatives' faces.
KKK was founded by conservatives (southern democrats) and continues to be loved by conservatives (today's Republicans).

Actually the Klan was founded originally by ex-soldiers who had no political party, and fifty years later re-founded by a con artist with also no known political affiliations. They may have their tendencies from one time and place to another but both of them insisted they were non-political.

No doubt insisted that while murdering Republicans.

Nope. Actually the original founders were out for nothing more than a joke. All that violence stuff came on after it was taken over from them. And at the time there were literally dozens of such groups.

And the second one that went much bigger and coast-to-coast, was a con artist out to milk membership money from the gullible, because he saw what a sensation "Birth of a Nation" was. Wouldn't have made sense to be murdering Republicans at the same time they were endorsing them.

You must be thinking of a different KKK, entirely, then, because the KKK I'm thinking of, the anti-black group, murdered blacks and Republicans.

Reading comprehension slips again.

The post I answered claimed, and I quote, "KKK was founded by conservatives (southern democrats)"

Whelp --- no it wasn't. I corrected that.

Prove those southern Democrats were conservative.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Geaux4it]

The Democrats have evolved into modern day slavery of blacks by keeping them held down in the projects.

-Geaux
--------

Did you know that the Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, founded the KKK, and fought against every major civil rights act in U.S. history? Watch as Carol Swain, professor of political science at Vanderbilt University, shares the inconvenient history of the Democratic Party.


The Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party

 

[Pogo]

There's nothing conservative about racism, shit stain. That claim is nothing more than leftwing bigotry.

Spits the moron who actually posted a photo from a KKK march in Wisconsin and tried to fool the forum into believing it was from the 1924 DNC in New York.

That doesn't prove your claim, shit stain.

I already gave you a link which showed the origins of that photo.

Meanwhile, you have zero evidence that photo was from the 1924 DNC. You're just fucking crazy.

Here's a second link to demonstrate what a retard you are...

Dry times were not good times

... want more...?

How does any of that prove racism is conservative, dumbass?

One thing is clear: you lack the ability to commit logic. You haven't got the slightest idea whether any given argument is true or false. That's why you're a snowflake. Anyone who can reason is conservative. Leftwingers are all witless baboons.

Moron, need I remind you, you idiotically posted a photo from Madison, Wisconsin and falsely claimed it was from thd 1924 DNC in New York, held at Madison Square Garden?

You really are retarded enough to confuse Moron, need I remind you, you idiotically posted a photo from Madison, Wisconsin with Madison Square Garden.

I didn't even get the "Madison" connection until you pointed that out. Hey, it's only off by a thousand miles.
But the fact that the page tried to sell a political convention taking place on trolley tracks on a street, and two posters bought it without a second thought, as well as Oscar Underwood's name somehow morphing into a zombie of "Forney Johnston", is still inexplicable. It's like people will buy anything and never read the ingredient label as long as it tastes good.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Uh ----nnnnnnnnnnnno. And we already did this about a week ago or whenever it was I discovered this bogus-OP thread.

"Klanbake" was the Klan gathering, without Dodge Challengers oddly enough, in New Jersey across the river from the Democratic convention at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Inside that convention there was much debate about that denounce-the-Klan platform, with Sen. Oscar Underwood and Gov. Al Smith leading the charge. Underwood was the time's loudest voice denouncing the KKK declaring that it and the US could not co-exist. And Smith was a Catholic, one of the Klan's target groups.

Klan influence was backing William Gibbs McAdoo of California who had not sought, but also did not reject, their support. By locking up nomination votes over and over that convention became the longest one ever in history, a record that still stands, necessitating over 100 votes. Finally the lock was broken with a dark horse candidate that was seen as not offensive to either side, Gov. John Davis of West Virginia. Davis accepted the nomination ---- and promptly denounced the Klan anyway.

The KKK ended up endorsing Calvin Coolidge that fall, the only major candidate that did not publicly denounce the KKK, and Herbert Hoover four years later, running smear campaigns against Al Smith which I have detailed elsewhere, because Smith was still Catholic.

The abject carelessness of the sourced article running an image from Madison Wisconsin and claiming it's a New York political convention taking place on trolley tracks is also undermined by its spelling Oscar Underwood's name as "Forney Johnston". That was a real person but in 1924 he was neither in New York nor in Wisconsin, mainly owing to the fact that he had been dead for a decade.

--- which just underscores that morons like Finger-Boi will run with any fake news they think says what they like, without ever vetting it.

The epilogue to that never-ending convention deadlock drama --- the conservative wing was able to deadlock all those 100+ ballots because the party at the time required a 2/3 majority for nomination. So all you needed to block was 33% plus one. Franklin Roosevelt put an end to that 12 years later when, at the height of his power while running for re-election in 1936, he got the rules changed to a simple majority (50% plus one). That ensured there would be no more 1924s and the next time the South wanted to block the flow, in 1948 the first election after World War Two, they were unable to do so under the new rules, walked out, and ran their own campaign. That was the "Dixiecrats", Strom Thurmond and Fielding Wright.

The next time Thurmond came up for Senate re-election he found himself kicked off the ballot and had to run as a write-in (which he won).

What exactly makes them "The Conservative Wing"?

Racism mostly.

Oh, so it's a way for the left to blame everyone but themselves, got it. And what exactly makes racism "Conservative"?

It has nothing to do with "the left". It has to do with that conservative wing. You asked what made them the conservative wing. They clearly were not the Liberal one.

Being a conservative does not in itself make one racist. But in order to be a racist, one must be conservative.

Yeah... That's why they created the Sedition Acts aimed at stripping the cultural heritage of German-Americans from those who lived in the United States. Even though those German_Americans were US citizens for two or more generations with many that filled United States uniforms in both those wars. No bigotry among those Democrats here best move on.

*****SARCASTIC CHUCKLE*****

 

[Pogo]

The Democrats have evolved into modern day slavery of blacks by keeping them held down in the projects.

-Geaux
--------

Did you know that the Democratic Party defended slavery, started the Civil War, founded the KKK, and fought against every major civil rights act in U.S. history? Watch as Carol Swain, professor of political science at Vanderbilt University, shares the inconvenient history of the Democratic Party.


The Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party

Oh look --- it's the original bridge-buyer, here to explain how the Democratic Party held an annual convention on trolley tracks in Madison Wisconsin. Maybe he can explain "Forney Johnston" as well. He's only had a week and a half to work on it.

Whatcha come up with?

And look --- he's trotting in more myths, including my favorite, "founded the KKK". Nope, they did not.

1865:

• (Maj) James Crowe
• Calvin Jones
• (Capt) John Lester
• (Capt) John B Kenedy
• Frank O. McCord
• Richard Reed

1915 re-founding:

• William Joseph Simmons

--- find me any political affiliation for any of those people.

Maybe look under the trolley tracks in Madison Wisconsin

Or maybe "Forney Johnston" knows.

You can also check post 64 here, where another kkklown history revisionist tried to slap this same myth against the wall hoping it would stick despite known history. Which is linked an imaged there.

 

[bripat9643]

There's nothing conservative about racism, shit stain. That claim is nothing more than leftwing bigotry.

Spits the moron who actually posted a photo from a KKK march in Wisconsin and tried to fool the forum into believing it was from the 1924 DNC in New York.

That doesn't prove your claim, shit stain.

I already gave you a link which showed the origins of that photo.

Meanwhile, you have zero evidence that photo was from the 1924 DNC. You're just fucking crazy.

Here's a second link to demonstrate what a retard you are...

Dry times were not good times

... want more...?

How does any of that prove racism is conservative, dumbass?

One thing is clear: you lack the ability to commit logic. You haven't got the slightest idea whether any given argument is true or false. That's why you're a snowflake. Anyone who can reason is conservative. Leftwingers are all witless baboons.

Moron, need I remind you, you idiotically posted a photo from Madison, Wisconsin and falsely claimed it was from thd 1924 DNC in New York, held at Madison Square Garden?

You really are retarded enough to confuse Madison, Wisconsin with Madison Square Garden.

That's old news, asshole. The subject we're discussing now is your claim that racism is conservative. Whenever you're asked to provide some tangible support for your idiocy, you circle back to a previous point where you think you scored a point.

Now answer the question: what is the evidence that racism is "conservative?"