Liberals: Be Not Offended!

[HenryBHough]

An unoffended liberal is sorta like a flightless bird.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Liberalism is the only religion that doesn't believe in something imaginary.

Leftism - as PC noted - is a retrograde religion which is totally immersed in that greatest of all fantasies ... the free lunch.

Can't say as I remember the Founders saying that anything was free, especially Liberty...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

An unoffended [sic] liberal is sorta like a flightless bird.

Plenty of those around. They run, or walk, or swim like we do.

 

[HenryBHough]

Plenty of those around. They run, or walk, or swim like we do.

Indeed.

It was a poor choice of word on my part.

Wrong to have written "bird" when I should have written "bat".

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Yet, the dominant political party/worldview promises to do just that. 'Your widdle feeling hurt? Or might be hurt? Well....we'll put in place rules, regulations, speech codes, 'trigger warnings,' ....and, don't forget the mantra that the Democrats provided during the Clarence Thomas nomination, that the accusation of criminal wrongdoing , namely the unproved sexual harassment claims of one Anita Hill....even though Ms. Hill couldn't prove her accusation, that didn't matter.

.

Oh dear, were Clarence Thomas's feelings hurt?

So....there were no restrictive policies set in motion by Clarence Thomas?

You simply provided a bogus post in your failed attempt to provide cover for Leftist fascists?

Shut up woman and go back to the kitchen where you belong...

Oh...poor baby.


Really wounded by the spankings I've had to administer,huh?


Not gonna end, either.

 

[SAYIT]

Liberalism is the American version of fascism.

Liberalism is the founding ideology of America. It granted us Liberty, among other things...

Stop lying.

Not the modern version of Liberalism, which is simply a title stolen by the communist/socialist John Dewey, and applied to the Socialist Party.


How Socialist John Dewey Switched Labels
by Jim Peron

1. Pity the poor liberal. And I mean the real liberal. Not the modern watered-down socialist who calls himself a liberal but a real, honest, classical liberal. There is so much confusion over the term and real liberals have allowed fake liberals to get away with this subtle destruction of the language.
2. The classical liberals proposed laissez faire and this led to prosperity. The economics of 19th century liberalism brought about a major increase in the standard of living of all people. Thus real liberalism produced the effects which socialists dreamed their system would provide.
   1. Many socialists wanted prosperity and thought socialism would lead to such results faster than classical liberalism. But at the same time many socialists saw their ideology as a means of grabbing power for themselves and it was the power, not the promised prosperity, which attracted them.
3. [Socialists] knew that liberalism had a good reputation with the working classes — the very audience which they were targeting. The idea was to adopt the name liberal to describe socialism. Socialism, as socialism, was harder to sell. But by taking a name they did not deserve they felt they could make political gains on the backs of classical liberalism. And they did.
4. In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
   1. But he noted the collectivism of that day was a “collectivism of profit” and not a “collectivism of planning”. He said the only way liberalism could return to its true meaning was to adopt socialism as the means by which liberal goals would be achieved. As he put it central economic planning was “the sole method of social action by which liberalism can realize its professed aims.”
      1. http://orlingrabbe.com/lfetimes/liberal_confusion.htm

Now don't let me catch you lying about this again.

Liberals haven't changed, much, just the times we live in. I still believe in what the Founders did, rights and responsibilities, and that's no lie...

If only the loony leftist cabal were so committed to rights and responsibilities.

DanielP says all cute women should be barefoot and bare-bottomed and JSmit believes we must add free education and health care to our current deficit spending.
Oh yeah ... and Cowboy Ted says "Shut up woman and go back to the kitchen where you belong."

Real solid Liberalism.

Lots of fantasy world among the loony left. They demand the rights but are not real big on the responsibilities.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals actually set policies to restrict religious and conservative dissidents.

Yup!

Those liberals were the Founding Fathers and that policy is called the 1st Amendment.

You should ask one of your teachers to explain it to you one day.

Especially the part about freedom FROM religion.

There is no "freedom FROM religion", it's "freedom OF religion". You look really, really stupid right now, more so than you usually do

Of course there is. This is one of the silliest of the right wing talking points...and that's saying something 'cause there are some really ridiculous ones. If I’m a Jew, I have the freedom not to be a Baptist. If I’m Catholic, I have the right not to to be Buddhist. There are hundreds of different faiths all living in the United States and I have the freedom NOT to be any of them if I so desire.

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Liberalism is the only religion that doesn't believe in something imaginary.

So....how do you explain all the Liberals calling Obama the messiah, and comparing him to Jesus in '08?

Oh...right....you're a liar.

 

[SAYIT]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Libertarianism is a religion because it doesn't work in reality...

You mean Leftism is a religion because it doesn't work in real life. Leftism only works until it runs out of OPM (Other People's Money). Example: Greece.

 

[SAYIT]

Yes, it is due to such lousy capital skills from the Right, that the left prefers to use socialism.

Yeah, and we've seen how well that works out.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberalism is the American version of fascism.

Liberalism is the founding ideology of America. It granted us Liberty, among other things...

Stop lying.

Not the modern version of Liberalism, which is simply a title stolen by the communist/socialist John Dewey, and applied to the Socialist Party.


How Socialist John Dewey Switched Labels
by Jim Peron

1. Pity the poor liberal. And I mean the real liberal. Not the modern watered-down socialist who calls himself a liberal but a real, honest, classical liberal. There is so much confusion over the term and real liberals have allowed fake liberals to get away with this subtle destruction of the language.
2. The classical liberals proposed laissez faire and this led to prosperity. The economics of 19th century liberalism brought about a major increase in the standard of living of all people. Thus real liberalism produced the effects which socialists dreamed their system would provide.
   1. Many socialists wanted prosperity and thought socialism would lead to such results faster than classical liberalism. But at the same time many socialists saw their ideology as a means of grabbing power for themselves and it was the power, not the promised prosperity, which attracted them.
3. [Socialists] knew that liberalism had a good reputation with the working classes — the very audience which they were targeting. The idea was to adopt the name liberal to describe socialism. Socialism, as socialism, was harder to sell. But by taking a name they did not deserve they felt they could make political gains on the backs of classical liberalism. And they did.
4. In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
   1. But he noted the collectivism of that day was a “collectivism of profit” and not a “collectivism of planning”. He said the only way liberalism could return to its true meaning was to adopt socialism as the means by which liberal goals would be achieved. As he put it central economic planning was “the sole method of social action by which liberalism can realize its professed aims.”
      1. http://orlingrabbe.com/lfetimes/liberal_confusion.htm

Now don't let me catch you lying about this again.

Liberals haven't changed, much, just the times we live in. I still believe in what the Founders did, rights and responsibilities, and that's no lie...

Dewey purloined the title 'Liberal' and used it for Socialists.

That would be you, eh?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Liberalism is the American version of fascism.

Liberalism is the founding ideology of America. It granted us Liberty, among other things...

Stop lying.

Not the modern version of Liberalism, which is simply a title stolen by the communist/socialist John Dewey, and applied to the Socialist Party.


How Socialist John Dewey Switched Labels
by Jim Peron

1. Pity the poor liberal. And I mean the real liberal. Not the modern watered-down socialist who calls himself a liberal but a real, honest, classical liberal. There is so much confusion over the term and real liberals have allowed fake liberals to get away with this subtle destruction of the language.
2. The classical liberals proposed laissez faire and this led to prosperity. The economics of 19th century liberalism brought about a major increase in the standard of living of all people. Thus real liberalism produced the effects which socialists dreamed their system would provide.
   1. Many socialists wanted prosperity and thought socialism would lead to such results faster than classical liberalism. But at the same time many socialists saw their ideology as a means of grabbing power for themselves and it was the power, not the promised prosperity, which attracted them.
3. [Socialists] knew that liberalism had a good reputation with the working classes — the very audience which they were targeting. The idea was to adopt the name liberal to describe socialism. Socialism, as socialism, was harder to sell. But by taking a name they did not deserve they felt they could make political gains on the backs of classical liberalism. And they did.
4. In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
   1. But he noted the collectivism of that day was a “collectivism of profit” and not a “collectivism of planning”. He said the only way liberalism could return to its true meaning was to adopt socialism as the means by which liberal goals would be achieved. As he put it central economic planning was “the sole method of social action by which liberalism can realize its professed aims.”
      1. http://orlingrabbe.com/lfetimes/liberal_confusion.htm

Now don't let me catch you lying about this again.

Liberals haven't changed, much, just the times we live in. I still believe in what the Founders did, rights and responsibilities, and that's no lie...

Dewey purloined the title 'Liberal' and used it for Socialists.

That would be you, eh?

Nope...

 

[SAYIT]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Liberalism is the only religion that doesn't believe in something imaginary.

Leftism - as PC noted - is a retrograde religion which is totally immersed in that greatest of all fantasies ... the free lunch.

Can't say as I remember the Founders saying that anything was free...

Good point but we already have a free ride (on federal income tax) for the bottom 49% of American earners and despite our existing debt and current deficit spending, JSmit insists we add free education and free health care.
BTW, I have no prob with gov't goodies as long as they are productive and affordable. As things stand, we can't even afford the freebies we now provide.

 

[SAYIT]

Liberalism is the American version of fascism.

Liberalism is the founding ideology of America. It granted us Liberty, among other things...

Stop lying.

Not the modern version of Liberalism, which is simply a title stolen by the communist/socialist John Dewey, and applied to the Socialist Party.


How Socialist John Dewey Switched Labels
by Jim Peron

1. Pity the poor liberal. And I mean the real liberal. Not the modern watered-down socialist who calls himself a liberal but a real, honest, classical liberal. There is so much confusion over the term and real liberals have allowed fake liberals to get away with this subtle destruction of the language.
2. The classical liberals proposed laissez faire and this led to prosperity. The economics of 19th century liberalism brought about a major increase in the standard of living of all people. Thus real liberalism produced the effects which socialists dreamed their system would provide.
   1. Many socialists wanted prosperity and thought socialism would lead to such results faster than classical liberalism. But at the same time many socialists saw their ideology as a means of grabbing power for themselves and it was the power, not the promised prosperity, which attracted them.
3. [Socialists] knew that liberalism had a good reputation with the working classes — the very audience which they were targeting. The idea was to adopt the name liberal to describe socialism. Socialism, as socialism, was harder to sell. But by taking a name they did not deserve they felt they could make political gains on the backs of classical liberalism. And they did.
4. In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
   1. But he noted the collectivism of that day was a “collectivism of profit” and not a “collectivism of planning”. He said the only way liberalism could return to its true meaning was to adopt socialism as the means by which liberal goals would be achieved. As he put it central economic planning was “the sole method of social action by which liberalism can realize its professed aims.”
      1. http://orlingrabbe.com/lfetimes/liberal_confusion.htm

Now don't let me catch you lying about this again.

Liberals haven't changed, much, just the times we live in. I still believe in what the Founders did, rights and responsibilities, and that's no lie...

Dewey purloined the title 'Liberal' and used it for Socialists.

That would be you, eh?

Yanno, PMH said he believes in individual responsibility which - assuming he is being honest - clearly separates him from the Leftist cabal. He also noted that the Founding Fathers didn't mention the freebies so eagerly promoted by the comrades so maybe he is just a liberal and not a loony leftist.
I can live with the distinction.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Liberalism is the only religion that doesn't believe in something imaginary.

Leftism - as PC noted - is a retrograde religion which is totally immersed in that greatest of all fantasies ... the free lunch.

Can't say as I remember the Founders saying that anything was free...

Good point but we already have a free ride (on federal income tax) for the bottom 49% of American earners and despite our existing debt and current deficit spending, JSmit insists we add free education and free health care.
BTW, I have no prob with gov't goodies as long as they are productive and we can afford them. As things stand, we can't even afford the freebies we now provide.

Raise taxes, cut spending, and grow the economy. All three must be done at the same time. When your government can't pay the bills that's what people with common sense do.

 

[SAYIT]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Liberalism is the only religion that doesn't believe in something imaginary.

Leftism - as PC noted - is a retrograde religion which is totally immersed in that greatest of all fantasies ... the free lunch.

Can't say as I remember the Founders saying that anything was free...

Good point but we already have a free ride (on federal income tax) for the bottom 49% of American earners and despite our existing debt and current deficit spending, JSmit insists we add free education and free health care.
BTW, I have no prob with gov't goodies as long as they are productive and we can afford them. As things stand, we can't even afford the freebies we now provide.

Raise taxes, cut spending, and grow the economy. All three must be done at the same time. When your government can't pay the bills that's what people with common sense do.

They should have elected you (or me) to govern Greece. Drowning in debt, gov't overspending and lax tax collections, successive gov'ts chose to fiddle while Greece's economy burned.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Liberalism is the only religion that doesn't believe in something imaginary.

Leftism - as PC noted - is a retrograde religion which is totally immersed in that greatest of all fantasies ... the free lunch.

I thought we were tax and spend liberals? lol.

Taxation pays for the lunch. The Right is where the free lunch is worshipped,

most often in the form of more spending accompanied by tax CUTS. Free lunch. Free wars.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Liberalism is the American version of fascism.

Liberalism is the founding ideology of America. It granted us Liberty, among other things...

Stop lying.

Not the modern version of Liberalism, which is simply a title stolen by the communist/socialist John Dewey, and applied to the Socialist Party.


How Socialist John Dewey Switched Labels
by Jim Peron

1. Pity the poor liberal. And I mean the real liberal. Not the modern watered-down socialist who calls himself a liberal but a real, honest, classical liberal. There is so much confusion over the term and real liberals have allowed fake liberals to get away with this subtle destruction of the language.
2. The classical liberals proposed laissez faire and this led to prosperity. The economics of 19th century liberalism brought about a major increase in the standard of living of all people. Thus real liberalism produced the effects which socialists dreamed their system would provide.
   1. Many socialists wanted prosperity and thought socialism would lead to such results faster than classical liberalism. But at the same time many socialists saw their ideology as a means of grabbing power for themselves and it was the power, not the promised prosperity, which attracted them.
3. [Socialists] knew that liberalism had a good reputation with the working classes — the very audience which they were targeting. The idea was to adopt the name liberal to describe socialism. Socialism, as socialism, was harder to sell. But by taking a name they did not deserve they felt they could make political gains on the backs of classical liberalism. And they did.
4. In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America.
   1. But he noted the collectivism of that day was a “collectivism of profit” and not a “collectivism of planning”. He said the only way liberalism could return to its true meaning was to adopt socialism as the means by which liberal goals would be achieved. As he put it central economic planning was “the sole method of social action by which liberalism can realize its professed aims.”
      1. http://orlingrabbe.com/lfetimes/liberal_confusion.htm

Now don't let me catch you lying about this again.

Name the current socialist programs in place in the US, put in place by liberals.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Liberalism is the only religion that doesn't believe in something imaginary.

Leftism - as PC noted - is a retrograde religion which is totally immersed in that greatest of all fantasies ... the free lunch.

Can't say as I remember the Founders saying that anything was free...

Good point but we already have a free ride (on federal income tax) for the bottom 49% of American earners and despite our existing debt and current deficit spending, JSmit insists we add free education and free health care.
BTW, I have no prob with gov't goodies as long as they are productive and we can afford them. As things stand, we can't even afford the freebies we now provide.

Raise taxes, cut spending, and grow the economy. All three must be done at the same time. When your government can't pay the bills that's what people with common sense do.

Looks like there's hope for you.

BUT.....you should take a look at the best recession fighter in US history...Warren G. Harding.....

...he took a recession comparable to the one FDR fudged....and beat it in a year and a half.


Know how?
Cut government spending AND cut taxes big time.

That's because he was a Republican....

Not one of these:

But he did identify what he called “tactical lessons.” He let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend liberal Democrat.” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/magazine/17obama-t.html

 

[SAYIT]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Liberalism is the only religion that doesn't believe in something imaginary.

Leftism - as PC noted - is a retrograde religion which is totally immersed in that greatest of all fantasies ... the free lunch.

I thought we were tax and spend liberals? lol.

Taxation pays for the lunch. The Right is where the free lunch is worshipped,

most often in the form of more spending accompanied by tax CUTS. Free lunch. Free wars.

Nah ... at the moment you are just spend OPM leftists.
Currently, borrowed money is paying for the free lunch and last I looked the very definition of the term "conservative" is "pay (more or less) as we go."
Meanwhile, Comrade JSmit insists we add free education and free health care. He didn't mention if he would pay for it by raiding other programs, new taxes or more borrowed money.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Are you aware of the fact that Leftism is the most dynamic of religions?

Liberalism is the only religion that doesn't believe in something imaginary.

Leftism - as PC noted - is a retrograde religion which is totally immersed in that greatest of all fantasies ... the free lunch.

I thought we were tax and spend liberals? lol.

Taxation pays for the lunch. The Right is where the free lunch is worshipped,

most often in the form of more spending accompanied by tax CUTS. Free lunch. Free wars.

Nah ... at the moment you are just spend OPM leftists.
Currently, borrowed money is paying for the free lunch and last I looked the very definition of the term "conservative" is "pay (more or less) as we go."
Meanwhile, Comrade JSmit insists we add free education and free health care. He didn't mention if he would pay for it by raiding other programs, new taxes or more borrowed money.

Reagan escalated the Cold War and didn't pay for it. Bush Sr. started a war with Iraq and didn't pay for it. GW Bush invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, TWO wars, and didn't pay for either of them. In fact both Reagan and GW CUT taxes,

thus reducing revenues, while taking on those extraordinary expenses, aka wars.

That is how you bust your budget.