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Liberals Believe in Trickle Down Economics

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Apr 21, 2012
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We often hear the liberals decry the Reagan "Trickle Down" years, lamenting how the theory didn't work in spite of the overwhelming economic recovery from the Carter Malaise. The thing that has always baffled me is how liberals fail to see their own fail. Trickle down certainly did work, but furthermore, every free market capitalist economy is trickle down.

That's right, we are presently experiencing trickle down economy as I type, even under the socialist oppression of Obama. Now there's not much trickling down these days because the administration is hostile toward capitalism, but that's how all capitalist economies work.

You see, you have the capitalist who is in business to make a profit. He hires and fires, makes decisions on expansion or production efficiency, cuts losses and trims waste. In the end, his venture is either profitable or not. If it's not, his venture will eventually go under and he's out of business. If he makes a profit, he will pay off investors, pay back loans, settle debts, look at ways to expand his business, reward his employees, and probably take his wife out for a nice steak dinner.

As this money shifts from his profitable hands, it trickles down. Investors and banks show profits, pay off their debts, reward their employees, take their wives out for dinner. Rewarded employees pay off their debts, invest in a new home or car, and take their wives out to dinner. Real estate agents and car dealers show profits as a result, and they will pay off debts, reward employees, etc. Restaurants see an uptick in people taking their wives out for steak dinners, so they realize a profit and reward their employees, pay off debts, look at ways to expand their business and even take their own wives out for dinner. And so on and so forth.

Now, when you go on a socialist rampage and attack capitalist profits as evil and wrong, institute policies designed to restrict profits or outright confiscate them through taxes and regulatory fees, then there is nothing to trickle down. Debts accumulate and go unpaid, or have to be restructured. Plans to expand are put on hold or cancelled. No bonuses for employees, no new houses or cars, no steak dinners for the wives. Investors, bankers, construction, real estate, etc., no longer have the profits trickling down, so they can't give their employees bonuses or take wives out for steak dinners. The trickle becomes a slow drip and the capitalist goes into survival mode.

It's important to remember, trickle down is still happening because it's the natural state of a capitalist economy. There are still people making profits, paying off debts, expanding their business, rewarding employees, and taking their wives out for steak dinners. It's just not happening as much. Liberals may claim they don't believe in 'trickle down' but if they believe in free market capitalism at all, they believe in trickle down.
 
Capitalists do not create wealth.......the workers do
 
There is, of course, a place for targeted tax incentives aimed at the top but the point of liberal objections to trickle-down is the republican insistence that blanket tax cuts for entire tax brackets actually do something constructive rather than just add to the deficit and shift the tax burden downward.
 
Capitalists do not create wealth.......the workers do


How do they get the job to be able to do that?

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Nobody "gets" a job. They provide labor from which the employer profits


Doesn't the employer have to make the choice to hire him? Should that be forced?

And how does an employer get to the point where he can afford to hire his first employee, let alone several?

Does he just snap his fingers?

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How do they get the job to be able to do that?

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Nobody "gets" a job. They provide labor from which the employer profits


Doesn't the employer have to make the choice to hire him? Should that be forced?

And how does an employer get to the point where he can afford to hire his first employee, let alone several?

Does he just snap his fingers?

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He goes to the bank and mortgages his house.
 
Doesn't the employer have to make the choice to hire him? Should that be forced?

And how does an employer get to the point where he can afford to hire his first employee, let alone several?

Does he just snap his fingers?

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He goes to the bank and mortgages his house.


That's it?

Wow, that's easy!

Who knew!

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There are other ways of getting start up capital but that is probably the usual way it gets done.
 
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How do they get the job to be able to do that?

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I've heard Sean Hannity say it often....
Try getting a job from a poor person! :badgrin:

Try getting your lawn mowed by a rich person

The capitalists provide no goods or services. They only profit off the labor of others
How did they accumulate their capital in the first place?

Is there a big secret pile of cash somewhere that they aced you out of?
 
Capitalists do not create wealth.......the workers do


How do they get the job to be able to do that?

.

You do need the people with money to create jobs but to actually create large amounts of wealth, you need people to be employed and have the disposable income to spend the money they receive for their work.

Businesses can be more productive and create more wealth by hiring employees to do the necessary functions of day to day work. Then those employees visit businesses and services they like and spend that money or save it. That's capitalism. This notion is why many are hesitant to fully embrace mechanization of our workforce because if people don't have jobs, they have no money which will create anarchy but that's a discussion for another time.

The theory behind Trickle down does make sense. However, the implementation and results of Reaganomics show that it can't work. The money stays at the top and the wealth isn't spread around. All Reaganomics did was skyrocket the amount CEOs made but the wages of the average worker stayed stagnant for the last 30 years. So people have been using credit to buy essentials like food and clothing to survive. That feeds the machine of the upper class to make more money while the middle and lower class just become economic slaves to them. People shouldn't have to be in debt to survive.
 
I've heard Sean Hannity say it often....
Try getting a job from a poor person! :badgrin:

Try getting your lawn mowed by a rich person

The capitalists provide no goods or services. They only profit off the labor of others
How did they accumulate their capital in the first place?

Is there a big secret pile of cash somewhere that they aced you out of?

Inheritance seems to be the preferred method of becoming a venture capitalist outsourcing bastard.
 
How did they accumulate their capital in the first place?

Is there a big secret pile of cash somewhere that they aced you out of?

Inheritance seems to be the preferred method of becoming a venture capitalist outsourcing bastard.
IOW, you have no idea.

Enlighten me as to the tireless efforts of the investor class to keep jobs in this country? They are greedy elitist scum no matter where they got their cash. They do not deserve your worship.
 
I'm going to order some things from that lousy stinking SOB Capitalist exploiter of human souls no good rotting scum of the earth capitalist pig Pizza dude.

Hey I'm hungry.
 

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