Liberals now calling fetus an "organ of her own body"

[Noomi]

Sorry, you're being intellectually dishonest on this one. Organs are formed during fetal development, not after sex. So how about we DO start with the truth.

A fetus is part of a woman's body. I said nothing about organs.

That was the premiss of the OP, Chomsky claiming the fetus was an organ of a woman's body. We both know that is not true. If I misunderstood your intent you have my apology.

I don't agree with him. To me, an organ is something which is in your body when you are born and remains with you forever. Something that is in your body for a short period of time does not meet the definition of 'organ', at least IMO.

 

[Noomi]

So self centered. That attitude has lead to the deaths of millions of full grown adults in this world. No, abortion affects everyone.

Millions of adults have died? Because of what?

Abortion doesn't affect you. Your next door neighbor could have an abortion and you wouldn't be affected because you wouldn't know about it. You cannot be affected by something you are not aware of.

Do you pay attention in history class? Dictators are the most self centered people on Earth, and have been responsible for killing or letting die millions of people to further their own gains.

Your logic is flawed, because I know my next door neighbor personally. Another reason would be is that if it didn't affect me, why am I talking about it? Oh yeah, I survived an attempted abortion as a "fetus", through the use of contraceptives. It does affect me. If she had succeeded, I would not even be here arguing with you.

You have no reason to value life, but all the reason to justify taking it. Appalling.

It doesn't matter if you know your next door neighbor personally. If your neighbor had an abortion, and you didn't know about it, you wouldn't be affected by her choice, would you?

Love modern technology, so you're hagling over the months? What is your basis for life?

I am wanting him/her/it to admit that a baby will not survive if born 6 months early.

24 weeks is roughly 5 months in. Even so 4 months premature is rare, and in most cases results in the death of the child. But some have survived.

Stanley Nash, Baby Born Weighing One Pound, Survives After Premature Birth

Try reading it this time, sugar queen.

Baby one born at 25 weeks, baby two born at 24 weeks.

'Roughly' five months in would be about 20 weeks, and no baby has lived being born that early.

 

[chikenwing]

Abortion control must be returned to the states and they can do what they want with it.

LifeSiteNews Mobile | Noam Chomsky: The fetus is an 'organ' of woman?s body

Thu Apr 04, 2013

DUBLIN, April 4, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Noam Chomsky, the most cited academic in the world, said that an unborn baby is “an organ” and a part of the mother's “own body” during a recent guest lecture at an Irish college.

"There is a strong debate at the moment with regards to a woman's right to control an organ of her own body - namely the fetus,” Chomsky said during a question and answer session at University College Dublin on Tuesday night. “There is legislation being enacted in several U.S. states to define personhood as a fertilized egg.”

"Pretty soon you can imagine legislation prohibiting the washing of hands because thousands of cells are flaked off that could be turned into a stem cell and you can grow a fetus - so you're killing a person,” he said.

“It's attacks on women's rights," he concluded

Strange how you fetus masterbaters care only about fetus's not children who are already living

strange how denying ones own exsistance,then blatantly making shit up,is well really fucked in the head,what the hell is wrong with someone like yourself.

You shouldn't be allowed to keep goldfish,you don't give a rats ass at anytime.

Oh I forgot, for this type of person,saying something enough times will make it a truth eventually.But only in their little head.

 

[Stephanie]

How sick

we have a society that cares more for animals

 

[Obamanation]

Abortion doesn't affect you. Your next door neighbor could have an abortion and you wouldn't be affected because you wouldn't know about it. You cannot be affected by something you are not aware of.

So, if your next door neighbor murdered his wife, but you were unaware of it --- you weren't affected by it --- no big deal...

So, if a mass murderer is good at killing -- we should just let them go unless it is WE, who are their next target...

I think I'm getting this liberal thought process....

 

[Caroljo]

I am fine with Obamacare and I don't give a shit how much soda and junk people eat, as long as they suffer the consequences and don't demand free medical treatment because of it.

Well then you shouldnt like obamacare and you sound like one of those mean republicans.....hilarious

they can do whatever they want just dont expect anything for free....God you sound just like me on that.......

I am happy with my socialised medicine here, but I think that if people eat junk and get fat, or smoke and get sick as a result of that, they should be on their own. They knew the risks, after all...

Well then....we shouldn't be paying for abortions when a woman has sex and gets herself pregnant, she knew the risks. Right?

 

[Stephanie]

I am happy with my socialised medicine here, but I think that if people eat junk and get fat, or smoke and get sick as a result of that, they should be on their own. They knew the risks, after all...

It seems Socialism breeds little fascists who thinks it's their business what others do and then when they don't do as they think they should, they say they can all go to hell

eh?

 

[LilOlLady]

Now abortions can be considered cosmetic surgery? Decisions made by women to have abortions are not easy decisions and not a matter of getting pregnant or not getting pregnant because every woman is not getting birth control and it does not always work. A women and her right to chose is up to her, her doctor and her GOD. No one else.

 

[LilOlLady]

The Right want the government to tell women what to do with their bodies but not tell them or criminals what to do with their guns.

 

[Stephanie]

The Right want the government to tell women what to do with their bodies but not tell them or criminals what to do with their guns.

bullshit...they just want EQUAL treatment...you all can demand the government tell people what kind of guns they can own, then they should be able to tell a woman whether they can or need a abortion...

fair is fair

 

[turzovka]

Now abortions can be considered cosmetic surgery? Decisions made by women to have abortions are not easy decisions and not a matter of getting pregnant or not getting pregnant because every woman is not getting birth control and it does not always work. A women and her right to chose is up to her, her doctor and her GOD. No one else.

Except her God does not exist, or his opinion is not really considered.

When does the child have a say in this? At 8 months in the womb? No?

No one said having a child is easy. But there are natural laws humankind instinctively understands, and killing its own is against natural law. There are thousands standing in line glad to take the burden off of the mother without destroying the child.

 

[midcan5]

The Right want the government to tell women what to do with their bodies but not tell them or criminals what to do with their guns.

The 'right' fears - it fears freedom, it fears equal rights, it fears so strongly it must arm itself against freedom. Guns give the cowardly false courage against their false fears.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...-a-heartbeat-is-detectable-4.html#post3814184
http://www.usmessageboard.com/clean-debate-zone/241999-abortion-rape-question-4.html#post5859215

"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey


"Having ensured that children will be born through their anti-abortion legislation, House Republicans have now ensured those children will be deprived of proper nutrition once they come into the world, ensuring that 300,000 millionaires will have more money in their pockets at the expense of nearly 500,000 women and children. Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee approved the appropriations bill which reduces WIC funding from $6.73 billion this year to $5.90 billion in 2012. The bill will also cut $38 million from the Commodity Supplemental Food Program (CSIP), as well as $63 million from the Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAB). If the Republicans had been truly interested in slashing the federal budget they could have saved more money by ending tax cuts for the rich or slashing subsidies to the oil companies. Instead they starve the infants and elderly. Why do I say that? WIC could be fully funded at the cost of just one week of Bush’s tax cuts for millionaires. According to the Center for American Progress, “one day’s worth of millionaire tax cuts would feed needy families for a year.”" http://www.politicususa.com/the-consequences-of-evil-republican-legislation-since-2010.html

 

[Stephanie]

The Right want the government to tell women what to do with their bodies but not tell them or criminals what to do with their guns.

The 'right' fears - it fears freedom, it fears equal rights, it fears so strongly it must arm itself against freedom. Guns give the cowardly false courage against their false fears.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...-a-heartbeat-is-detectable-4.html#post3814184
http://www.usmessageboard.com/clean-debate-zone/241999-abortion-rape-question-4.html#post5859215

"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey


"Having ensured that children will be born through their anti-abortion legislation, House Republicans have now ensured those children will be deprived of proper nutrition once they come into the world, ensuring that 300,000 millionaires will have more money in their pockets at the expense of nearly 500,000 women and children. Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee approved the appropriations bill which reduces WIC funding from $6.73 billion this year to $5.90 billion in 2012. The bill will also cut $38 million from the Commodity Supplemental Food Program (CSIP), as well as $63 million from the Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAB). If the Republicans had been truly interested in slashing the federal budget they could have saved more money by ending tax cuts for the rich or slashing subsidies to the oil companies. Instead they starve the infants and elderly. Why do I say that? WIC could be fully funded at the cost of just one week of Bush’s tax cuts for millionaires. According to the Center for American Progress, “one day’s worth of millionaire tax cuts would feed needy families for a year.”" The Consequences of Evil - Republican Legislation Since 2010

holy smokes...I never starved ANYONE
politicususa...a COMMIE website

 

[t_polkow]

Notice how the "get government out of my life crowd" wants the government to interfere in a women's right .

Other religions believe differently when life starts, yet the fetus masterbaters only want what they believe and to make it the law for everyone.

Interesting fact :Catholic theology, which now regards the early fetus as a person, did not always do so. The Church first adopted the belief of Aristotle, St. Jerome, St. Augustine, and St. Thomas Aquinas that ensoulment occurs several weeks after conception. Pope Innocent III, who ruled at the turn of the 13th Century, made that belief part of Church doctrine, allowing abortion until fetal animation. It was not until 1869 that the Church prohibited abortion at any time and for any reason. From 1211 to 1869, it recognized two types of fetus. It taught that the male fetus became animated at 40 days, and the female at 80 days. Furthermore, until 1869 the Church allowed abortion until quickening

Catholics now believe because the fetus has a soul, it must be baptized in order to remove original sin. The problem with this is not every religion has that same tenet or has "original sin" as its tenet. It's purely a christian belief .

Hint for the zygote masterbaters, If you are against abortion don't have one, but don't demand everyone be subservient to your religious beliefs


http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_hist_c.htm

 

[Zoom-boing]

They will go as (retardedly) low as they can in order to justify the killing of the unborn.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Chomsky said it. The 'liberals' didn't say it. The OP is no more correct than Chomsky is.

The fetus is part of a woman's body, IOW, her property, except in jurisdictions where the law has given the fetus rights and/or protections that trump a woman's rights to that property.

If you want to take away a woman's basic fundamental constitutional rights regarding the fetus,

then amend the Constitution.

 

[Katzndogz]

Liberals will say whatever they need to say. Once the public gets used to calling it an organ of the body, the liberals will advance that to calling it a vestigal organ like an appendix. Have it out or it will make you sick.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Abortion control must be returned to the states and they can do what they want with it.

LifeSiteNews Mobile | Noam Chomsky: The fetus is an 'organ' of woman?s body

Thu Apr 04, 2013

DUBLIN, April 4, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Noam Chomsky, the most cited academic in the world, said that an unborn baby is “an organ” and a part of the mother's “own body” during a recent guest lecture at an Irish college.

"There is a strong debate at the moment with regards to a woman's right to control an organ of her own body - namely the fetus,” Chomsky said during a question and answer session at University College Dublin on Tuesday night. “There is legislation being enacted in several U.S. states to define personhood as a fertilized egg.”

"Pretty soon you can imagine legislation prohibiting the washing of hands because thousands of cells are flaked off that could be turned into a stem cell and you can grow a fetus - so you're killing a person,” he said.

“It's attacks on women's rights," he concluded

A fetus is a part of a woman's body for the duration of pregnancy. What is wrong with stating the truth?

What part of a woman's body is no longer intact when she has an abortion?

 

[Zoom-boing]

A fetus is a part of a woman's body for the duration of pregnancy. What is wrong with stating the truth?

because it's a seperate person....that is the truth. So Noam Chomsky thinks that dead skin cells can make babies or stem cells? For such an esteemed academic, he is stupid, I thought liberals were big fans of science, how do you come up with the dumbass idea?

Oh and trust me, conservatives love personal hygene, it's the libtards that like to do the hippie no taking a shower for a week thing.

A fetus is not a person, and if it was separate from the woman, it would be able to survive without the attachment to her, wouldn't it?

From the moment of fertilization they are a human being. Blastocyst, zygote, embryo, fetus, newborn, toddler, child, teenager, adult. All human beings in various developmental stages... but a human being all along.

A newborn cannot survive without someone feeding them and caring for them, so I guess according to you, a newborn isn't a person either.

 

[Zoom-boing]

A fetus is a part of a woman's body for the duration of pregnancy. What is wrong with stating the truth?

Sorry, you're being intellectually dishonest on this one. Organs are formed during fetal development, not after sex. So how about we DO start with the truth.

A fetus is part of a woman's body. I said nothing about organs.

Which part?