Lies the fundies tell

[Luddly Neddite]

The Persecution Complex: The Religious Right?s Deceptive Rallying Cry | People For the American Way

The tales of horror keep pouring in: Two middle school girls are forced into a lesbian kiss as part of an anti-bullying program; an Air Force sergeant is fired because he opposes same-sex marriage; a high school track team is disqualified from a meet after an athlete thanks God for the team’s victory; a Veterans Affairs hospital bans Christmas cards with religious messages; a man fixing the lights in a Christmas tree falls victim to a wave of War-on-Christmas violence; an elementary school student is punished for praying over his school lunch; a little boy is forced to take a psychological evaluation after drawing a picture of Jesus.

[Links to above lies at the link.]

None of these stories is true. But each has become a stock tale for Religious Right broadcasters, activists, and in some cases elected officials. These myths – which are becoming ever more pervasive in the right-wing media – serve to bolster a larger story, that of a majority religious group in American society becoming a persecuted minority, driven underground in its own country.

Why Do Right-Wing Christians Think 'Religious Freedom' Means Forcing Their Faith on You? | Alternet

The report shows that Christian conservative circles have become awash in legends of being persecuted for their faith, stories that invariably turn out to be nonsense but that “serve to bolster a larger story, that of a majority religious group in American society becoming a persecuted minority, driven underground in its own country.” This sense of persecution, in turn, gives them justification to push their actual agenda of religious repression under the guise that they’re just protecting themselves.

The most obvious and persistent example of this is the issue of creationism in the classroom. Clearly, teaching creationism in a biology classroom is a straightforward violation of the First Amendment, a direct attempt to use taxpayer money to foist a very specific religious teaching on captive students.

Why do so many fall for these lies?

Because they want to hate and if they can believe there's a "war" on christianity, it gives them an excuse to behave in very anti-christian ways.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Let's see, I'm Googling "lies lefties tell about religion". Wow, look at all the responses!

 

[PratchettFan]

Let's see, I'm Googling "lies lefties tell about religion". Wow, look at all the responses!

Excellent. I can't wait for you to share them to give this some balance.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Using lies to dodge addressing the FACTS of the OP.

Just like the article says.

 

[PratchettFan]

Let's see, I'm Googling "lies lefties tell about religion". Wow, look at all the responses!

Excellent. I can't wait for you to share them to give this some balance.

Ummmm...... still waiting.

 

[Mad Scientist]

The biggest lie, at least the most popular one these days, is the one Liberals tell about stoning an adulterer.

Go look it up.

 

[PratchettFan]

The biggest lie, at least the most popular one these days, is the one Liberals tell about stoning an adulterer.

Go look it up.

Are you going to provide all of those lies you said came right up or are you not? I really do want to see them.

Perhaps you can expand this stoning thing. What lie are you talking about?

 

[Avatar4321]

So you're going to claim all these stories are lies, based on what exactly?

I don't know if they are or are not lies, but I sure as heck am not going to believe it simply because you said so.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Willing dupes refuse to read the link because they don't want to know how completely they've been fooled.

That is, of course, your choice.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Willing dupes refuse to read the link because they don't want to know how completely they've been fooled.

That is, of course, your choice.

I wouldn't call Progressive Values the same as American Values. Willing dupes indeed!

Our operational mission is to promote the American Way and defend it from attack, to build and nurture communities of support for our values, and to equip those communities to promote progressive policies, elect progressive candidates, and hold public officials accountable.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Education has turned into indoctrination, and we are turning out generations of illiterate morons that support secular agendas, but can't read or write. Economics would have benefited this class much more than culling out and making a spectacle out of those who oppose the gay lifestyle the teacher was promoting.

The teacher should have been made to leave that classroom, not the children.

Student Sues School District Over Punishment For Expressing His Religious Views Against Homosexuality | CNS News

 

[PratchettFan]

Willing dupes refuse to read the link because they don't want to know how completely they've been fooled.

That is, of course, your choice.

I wouldn't call Progressive Values the same as American Values. Willing dupes indeed!

Our operational mission is to promote the American Way and defend it from attack, to build and nurture communities of support for our values, and to equip those communities to promote progressive policies, elect progressive candidates, and hold public officials accountable.

So, does this mean you aren't going to show all of those lies after all? You understand that pretty much leaves me only with the option of assuming your claim was untrue.

 

[Avatar4321]

Willing dupes refuse to read the link because they don't want to know how completely they've been fooled.

That is, of course, your choice.

Funny, that's why I think you refuse to read the scriptures.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Willing dupes refuse to read the link because they don't want to know how completely they've been fooled.

That is, of course, your choice.

I wouldn't call Progressive Values the same as American Values. Willing dupes indeed!

Our operational mission is to promote the American Way and defend it from attack, to build and nurture communities of support for our values, and to equip those communities to promote progressive policies, elect progressive candidates, and hold public officials accountable.

"Progressive Values" are what "christian values" are supposed to be.

 

[Avatar4321]

You realize that just because you post it in a picture, doesn't mean it's true, right?

 

[emilynghiem]

[MENTION=32558]Luddly Neddite[/MENTION] and [MENTION=49463]PoliticalTorch[/MENTION]
RE: Liberal Lies

Also add Liberal Lies
LIE #1

such as defending prochoice and "reproductive health care decisions free from govt intrusion" (where saving lives and women from the risk or harm of abortion
can be done WITHOUT BANNING CHOICES)

But when it comes to prochoice and "health care in general"
then this REQUIRES govt to intervene (and FINING the choice to pay for health care without buying insurance)

Suddenly people CANNOT be trusted with "free choice" about health care,
as women are trusted with "free choice of abortion."

Therefore, the argument about prochoice was NOT about freedom from govt,
it was about pushing agenda through the party and govt to CONTROL the choices.

LIE #2
policies on gays and homosexuality is about inclusion and nondiscrimination

Again, the Democrat Policy is to BAN the choice of conversion therapy.
Only people who CHOOSE to stay gay/transgender are protected.

If you change your lifestyle,
you are NO LONGER included as EQUAL. Your "choice" does not count because it
invalidates the idea that homosexuality is "not a choice"

So the "choice" of abortion, although it can be abused, must be protected
despite the abuses by malpractice.

But the "choice" of therapy, BECAUSE it can be abused, must be BANNED and punished by law.

WHERE is the "prochoice" defense in LIE #1 or LIE #2 ?

If abortion can be prevented without banning free choice,
why can't health care be provided without penalizing free choice?

If abuses of abortion can be prevented without banning free choice,
why can't abuses of therapy be prevented without banning free choice?

Why aren't more "Prochoice" Democrats standing up for consistent principles?
Why am I the only one I know speaking out about these conflicts?

The Persecution Complex: The Religious Right?s Deceptive Rallying Cry | People For the American Way

The tales of horror keep pouring in: Two middle school girls are forced into a lesbian kiss as part of an anti-bullying program; an Air Force sergeant is fired because he opposes same-sex marriage; a high school track team is disqualified from a meet after an athlete thanks God for the team’s victory; a Veterans Affairs hospital bans Christmas cards with religious messages; a man fixing the lights in a Christmas tree falls victim to a wave of War-on-Christmas violence; an elementary school student is punished for praying over his school lunch; a little boy is forced to take a psychological evaluation after drawing a picture of Jesus.

[Links to above lies at the link.]

None of these stories is true. But each has become a stock tale for Religious Right broadcasters, activists, and in some cases elected officials. These myths – which are becoming ever more pervasive in the right-wing media – serve to bolster a larger story, that of a majority religious group in American society becoming a persecuted minority, driven underground in its own country.

Why Do Right-Wing Christians Think 'Religious Freedom' Means Forcing Their Faith on You? | Alternet

The report shows that Christian conservative circles have become awash in legends of being persecuted for their faith, stories that invariably turn out to be nonsense but that “serve to bolster a larger story, that of a majority religious group in American society becoming a persecuted minority, driven underground in its own country.” This sense of persecution, in turn, gives them justification to push their actual agenda of religious repression under the guise that they’re just protecting themselves.

The most obvious and persistent example of this is the issue of creationism in the classroom. Clearly, teaching creationism in a biology classroom is a straightforward violation of the First Amendment, a direct attempt to use taxpayer money to foist a very specific religious teaching on captive students.

Why do so many fall for these lies?

Because they want to hate and if they can believe there's a "war" on christianity, it gives them an excuse to behave in very anti-christian ways.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Goodbye Christianity, Hello Socialism: Christianity under Attack | The Conservative Patriot

 

[PratchettFan]

Goodbye Christianity, Hello Socialism: Christianity under Attack | The Conservative Patriot

Utter nonsense.

 

[Avatar4321]

Goodbye Christianity, Hello Socialism: Christianity under Attack | The Conservative Patriot

Utter nonsense.

Which part?

 

[PratchettFan]

Goodbye Christianity, Hello Socialism: Christianity under Attack | The Conservative Patriot

Utter nonsense.

Which part?

All of it. The entire concept is utter nonsense. Christianity is under attack? Fetid dingoes kidneys.