LIVE: Obama giving a splendid lecture/scolding to American peasants on guns! BANNED private sales!

[JustAnotherNut]

Problem being.......most mass shootings in America and the reasons behind most of these regulations are actually done in a school setting by teenagers that can't buy a gun with or without background checks and get their guns from their parents or other family members that have passed all background checks and of legal age. Any more gun regulation isn't going to stop this from happening.
The other contributors to mass shootings are by people that have passed all checks and still chose to kill, as in San Bernadino. So tell me again how more regulations & restrictions are supposed to stop that from happening? Even BO in his speech said that restrictions aren't making us any safer (but he does it anyway, because it looks good on his resume)

It's a step in the process and agenda

and the question now is what process for what agenda are you referring?

 

[PredFan]

- He just outlawed private sales. Bam. Your grandpa wants to sell you his old hunting rifle? Cant. It's illegal now. Has to give it to a FFL now and have them sell it to you. A knife or bow and arrow? Sure that's ok. Just not a gun.

False, but let's not allow the facts to get in the way

The White House is introducing a new requirement that would expand background checks for buyers. The measure mandates that individuals "in the business of selling firearms" register as licensed gun dealers, effectively narrowing the so-called "gun show loophole," which exempts most small sellers from keeping formal sales records.

Obama executive action: New gun control orders - CNNPolitics.com

You left off the part that says there is no minimum number of guns that require a FFL. Effectively opening the door to preventing grandpa from selling his gun to his grandson.

Grandpa can do what he wants with his gun, but there will have to be a background check first. Lots of grandsons are thugs.

No, there won't. Obama doesn't make laws, his EO does not have to be obeyed.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

False, but let's not allow the facts to get in the way

You left off the part that says there is no minimum number of guns that require a FFL. Effectively opening the door to preventing grandpa from selling his gun to his grandson.

That isn't what the OP said, is it?

That is what Buc90 said which you called "wrong".

No, Bucs flat out said Obama made private gun sales illegal and your grandfather can't give you his gun now. That is patently false.

Ok, I see. Illegal if you don't get a background check.

I gave you the information. If you want to sit there hyperventilating like Chicken Little be my guest, dumb ass. I'm not going to sit here all day and argue with you about it.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Best I've seen on this so far....I think the majority if this is just posturing and a warm fuzzy feeling for Obungles and his duped sheep.

1. The Gun Show Loophole
Obama: “Anybody in the business of selling firearms must get a license and conduct background checks or be subject to criminal prosecutions.”
Truth: There is no gun show loophole. What people mean is that you have to sell a certain amount of guns before you cross over from private citizen to a dealer requiring a license. A private sale is when a person who owns a gun sells that gun to another person. Some private sales take place at gun shows. But people who are dealers that go to gun shows and sell lots of guns have to be licensed. The sales are legal, and there is a background check on the buyer. This is already the law. There’s no loophole.

2. The Online Loophole
Obama: “A violent felon can buy the exact same weapon over the internet with no background check, no questions asked.”
Truth: There is no online loophole. Exactly as with the gun show, what happens is that a person might privately sell something. Let’s say you own a gun. You have a friend on Facebook who wants to buy a gun. You sell your friend the gun. Because you are not a retailer, you do not have to be licensed as a dealer, and are not required to conduct a background check. That’s it. Otherwise, online sales are already covered. Retailers that sell guns and have an online presence where you can buy them are licensed and therefore, the sales are legal and there is a background check on the buyer. And you simply can’t sell a gun over the internet and ship it over state liunes without restriction or background check even if it is a private sale. That’s right. Even private online sales cannot transfer the weapon without a check. There’s no loophole.

3. Universal Background Checks
Obama: “We know that background checks make a difference.”
Truth: There are already background checks. So this statement is a straw man. What the controllers are pitching is who is required to conduct them and under what circumstances. This idea is sold in the press as simple common sense. The idea is that every time a person becomes the owner of a gun, they are vetted by the government. This would even mean temporary transfers of ownership, like say you give your gun to your mother while you are on deployment. Some states, like recently-in-the-news Oregon, have passed laws that are versions of this. That is, a criminal and mental health background check for all gun sales. (In Oregon’s case, even the new law still allows transfers of ownership among family members without a check.) But the requirement for a background check on all private sales of guns is one of the objectives of the gun control lobby and their media allies. So now you know what they mean by this. They mean that you can’t sell your rifle to your Facebook hunting buddy unless a criminal and mental health background check is conducted.

4. Obama’s Executive Action
Despite the wishes of the gun-grabbers, Obama’s executive action does not address points one through three above. Instead, it simply “requires” that the ATF should enforce the existing laws about licensing people who sell weapons. To that end they are giving more money to the ATF for people who conduct the background checks that already are conducted and are already required by law. There will also be more federal oversight and enforcement on reporting of lost or stolen guns. As a result of Obama’s action, it ispossible that more people will be defined as sellers based on volume as a result of there being more ATF agents, but in reality private sales won’t be changed in any meaningful way, and gun shows and online sales will continue as they do, with only a very few exceptions.

5. Precedent
Although the practical effect of the President’s action is relatively minor, it is a message nevertheless. The President is establishing his authority to simply take action curtailing the constitutionally guaranteed right of Americans to own guns, without the legislature, based on his own decisions about what that action should consist of. As a precedent for gun-grabbing, it may not be strong, but it is absolutely applicable. If you value your freedom to purchase and possess guns, this action is an affront.

Five Things To Know About Obama's Executive Action On Guns | RedState

 

[PredFan]

They certainly don't if you don't do them.

So let's just hassle gun owners even though is doesn't help one damn bit.

It isn't about saving lives or reducing crime at all, it's all about a president who thinks he can do whatever he wants to and wants to advance the left wing agenda of power and control.

It`s about a president doing the job he is paid to do and he`s not being paid to help criminals, crazies and terrorists acquire weapons. Even the former GOP presidents think you suck.

No dumbass, Obama is not paid to make laws. He is paid to follow, protect, and defend the Constitution. He took an oath to do that. The constitution says he cannot make laws.

Wake up and stop being such an idiot.

He didn`t make any "laws" dum dum. Does the 2nd amendment say there can`t be background checks. So sorry that this may put a crimp in your straw purchasing business.

Hey idiot, what do you think will happen if I sell a gun to my neighbor later this year and don't go through channels? If he didn't make a law, then nothing will happen right?

 

[PredFan]

Best I've seen on this so far....I think the majority if this is just posturing and a warm fuzzy feeling for Obungles and his duped sheep.

1. The Gun Show Loophole
Obama: “Anybody in the business of selling firearms must get a license and conduct background checks or be subject to criminal prosecutions.”
Truth: There is no gun show loophole. What people mean is that you have to sell a certain amount of guns before you cross over from private citizen to a dealer requiring a license. A private sale is when a person who owns a gun sells that gun to another person. Some private sales take place at gun shows. But people who are dealers that go to gun shows and sell lots of guns have to be licensed. The sales are legal, and there is a background check on the buyer. This is already the law. There’s no loophole.

2. The Online Loophole
Obama: “A violent felon can buy the exact same weapon over the internet with no background check, no questions asked.”
Truth: There is no online loophole. Exactly as with the gun show, what happens is that a person might privately sell something. Let’s say you own a gun. You have a friend on Facebook who wants to buy a gun. You sell your friend the gun. Because you are not a retailer, you do not have to be licensed as a dealer, and are not required to conduct a background check. That’s it. Otherwise, online sales are already covered. Retailers that sell guns and have an online presence where you can buy them are licensed and therefore, the sales are legal and there is a background check on the buyer. And you simply can’t sell a gun over the internet and ship it over state liunes without restriction or background check even if it is a private sale. That’s right. Even private online sales cannot transfer the weapon without a check. There’s no loophole.

3. Universal Background Checks
Obama: “We know that background checks make a difference.”
Truth: There are already background checks. So this statement is a straw man. What the controllers are pitching is who is required to conduct them and under what circumstances. This idea is sold in the press as simple common sense. The idea is that every time a person becomes the owner of a gun, they are vetted by the government. This would even mean temporary transfers of ownership, like say you give your gun to your mother while you are on deployment. Some states, like recently-in-the-news Oregon, have passed laws that are versions of this. That is, a criminal and mental health background check for all gun sales. (In Oregon’s case, even the new law still allows transfers of ownership among family members without a check.) But the requirement for a background check on all private sales of guns is one of the objectives of the gun control lobby and their media allies. So now you know what they mean by this. They mean that you can’t sell your rifle to your Facebook hunting buddy unless a criminal and mental health background check is conducted.

4. Obama’s Executive Action
Despite the wishes of the gun-grabbers, Obama’s executive action does not address points one through three above. Instead, it simply “requires” that the ATF should enforce the existing laws about licensing people who sell weapons. To that end they are giving more money to the ATF for people who conduct the background checks that already are conducted and are already required by law. There will also be more federal oversight and enforcement on reporting of lost or stolen guns. As a result of Obama’s action, it ispossible that more people will be defined as sellers based on volume as a result of there being more ATF agents, but in reality private sales won’t be changed in any meaningful way, and gun shows and online sales will continue as they do, with only a very few exceptions.

5. Precedent
Although the practical effect of the President’s action is relatively minor, it is a message nevertheless. The President is establishing his authority to simply take action curtailing the constitutionally guaranteed right of Americans to own guns, without the legislature, based on his own decisions about what that action should consist of. As a precedent for gun-grabbing, it may not be strong, but it is absolutely applicable. If you value your freedom to purchase and possess guns, this action is an affront.

Five Things To Know About Obama's Executive Action On Guns | RedState

Thanks for that. I can't wait until the next gun show to see if anything changes.

 

[rcfieldz]

They certainly don't if you don't do them.

So let's just hassle gun owners even though is doesn't help one damn bit.

It isn't about saving lives or reducing crime at all, it's all about a president who thinks he can do whatever he wants to and wants to advance the left wing agenda of power and control.

It`s about a president doing the job he is paid to do and he`s not being paid to help criminals, crazies and terrorists acquire weapons. Even the former GOP presidents think you suck.

No dumbass, Obama is not paid to make laws. He is paid to follow, protect, and defend the Constitution. He took an oath to do that. The constitution says he cannot make laws.

Wake up and stop being such an idiot.

He didn`t make any "laws" dum dum. Does the 2nd amendment say there can`t be background checks. So sorry that this may put a crimp in your straw purchasing business.

Kinda funny. Wonder how many crooks stop to sign your guestbook when entering your home when your away and stealing your guns?

 

[PredFan]

You left off the part that says there is no minimum number of guns that require a FFL. Effectively opening the door to preventing grandpa from selling his gun to his grandson.

That isn't what the OP said, is it?

That is what Buc90 said which you called "wrong".

No, Bucs flat out said Obama made private gun sales illegal and your grandfather can't give you his gun now. That is patently false.

Ok, I see. Illegal if you don't get a background check.

I gave you the information. If you want to sit there hyperventilating like Chicken Little be my guest, dumb ass. I'm not going to sit here all day and argue with you about it.

I said "Ok, I see." What do you want from me? You need me to start a thread saying DontTazMeBro was right and I was wrong?

 

[rcfieldz]

That isn't what the OP said, is it?

That is what Buc90 said which you called "wrong".

No, Bucs flat out said Obama made private gun sales illegal and your grandfather can't give you his gun now. That is patently false.

Ok, I see. Illegal if you don't get a background check.

I gave you the information. If you want to sit there hyperventilating like Chicken Little be my guest, dumb ass. I'm not going to sit here all day and argue with you about it.

I said "Ok, I see." What do you want from me? You need me to start a thread saying DontTazMeBro was right and I was wrong?

Welcome to USMB.

 

[OKTexas]

So the dear leader trots out victims of gun violence in an emotionally charged dog and pony show with fake tears and all.

Says if you're in the business of selling guns you must get an FFL, of course speaking in his normal platitudes and bumper sticker slogans he provided no detail as to what constitutes "being in the business of selling guns".

Wants more funding for mental health access after saying mental health is a benefit of maobamacare, so why is more money needed?

Wants to update the background system, that would require congressional action to provide funding.

Wants more FBI and ATF agents, once again a move that would require congressional action.

So what did he really say, well not much, just a lot of emotion, not much common senses, even though he used the phrase often.

My thoughts, fuck off dear leader.

Your thoughts?

He is making a political statement to appease his audience.
Two other people said the 2nd Amendment arguments are empty pacifiers
to lend false security to calm false fears. Maybe the same can be said here?

The liberals use Obama like the Catholics use their Pope.
To issue public statements to establish what they are supposed to do, but make it official.

As long as liberals use Government as their God, then whatever
media coverage can be used to establish their beliefs and agenda,
that is what they keep using the President, Courts and Congress to do.

It's the liberal political religion to use Govt this way.

I say we need to divide this by party, so each party can have and practice (and fund and follow)
their OWN beliefs about govt, using their party and party leaders, structures, elections and policies that way.

And leave all parties to their own beliefs, to keep these out of federal govt.
by "separation of church and state" or "equal protection of all persons from discrimination by creed"

What do you think of THAT idea OKTexas ?
Calling for a Constitutional conference this year on an AGREED process how to identify
and SEPARATE political beliefs by party that are otherwise causing discrimination by creed.

Call it out for what it is. And get this conversation going in the right direction. Where are you in TX? Let me know, let's get it started. PM me and I'll invite you to some meetings to map out how to organize this. Texas is used to leading the nation in political DIY. Why not uphold that tradition?

Simply won't work without dividing the country, a concept I'm becoming more in favor of. BTW I live about 50 NW of the center of Houston.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

So the dear leader trots out victims of gun violence in an emotionally charged dog and pony show with fake tears and all.

Says if you're in the business of selling guns you must get an FFL, of course speaking in his normal platitudes and bumper sticker slogans he provided no detail as to what constitutes "being in the business of selling guns".

Wants more funding for mental health access after saying mental health is a benefit of maobamacare, so why is more money needed?

Wants to update the background system, that would require congressional action to provide funding.

Wants more FBI and ATF agents, once again a move that would require congressional action.

So what did he really say, well not much, just a lot of emotion, not much common senses, even though he used the phrase often.

My thoughts, fuck off dear leader.

Your thoughts?

He is making a political statement to appease his audience.
Two other people said the 2nd Amendment arguments are empty pacifiers
to lend false security to calm false fears. Maybe the same can be said here?

The liberals use Obama like the Catholics use their Pope.
To issue public statements to establish what they are supposed to do, but make it official.

As long as liberals use Government as their God, then whatever
media coverage can be used to establish their beliefs and agenda,
that is what they keep using the President, Courts and Congress to do.

It's the liberal political religion to use Govt this way.

I say we need to divide this by party, so each party can have and practice (and fund and follow)
their OWN beliefs about govt, using their party and party leaders, structures, elections and policies that way.

And leave all parties to their own beliefs, to keep these out of federal govt.
by "separation of church and state" or "equal protection of all persons from discrimination by creed"

What do you think of THAT idea OKTexas ?
Calling for a Constitutional conference this year on an AGREED process how to identify
and SEPARATE political beliefs by party that are otherwise causing discrimination by creed.

Call it out for what it is. And get this conversation going in the right direction. Where are you in TX? Let me know, let's get it started. PM me and I'll invite you to some meetings to map out how to organize this. Texas is used to leading the nation in political DIY. Why not uphold that tradition?

Simply won't work without dividing the country, a concept I'm becoming more in favor of. BTW I live about 50 NW of the center of Houston.

Hempstead?

 

[Hossfly]

Best I've seen on this so far....I think the majority if this is just posturing and a warm fuzzy feeling for Obungles and his duped sheep.

1. The Gun Show Loophole
Obama: “Anybody in the business of selling firearms must get a license and conduct background checks or be subject to criminal prosecutions.”
Truth: There is no gun show loophole. What people mean is that you have to sell a certain amount of guns before you cross over from private citizen to a dealer requiring a license. A private sale is when a person who owns a gun sells that gun to another person. Some private sales take place at gun shows. But people who are dealers that go to gun shows and sell lots of guns have to be licensed. The sales are legal, and there is a background check on the buyer. This is already the law. There’s no loophole.

2. The Online Loophole
Obama: “A violent felon can buy the exact same weapon over the internet with no background check, no questions asked.”
Truth: There is no online loophole. Exactly as with the gun show, what happens is that a person might privately sell something. Let’s say you own a gun. You have a friend on Facebook who wants to buy a gun. You sell your friend the gun. Because you are not a retailer, you do not have to be licensed as a dealer, and are not required to conduct a background check. That’s it. Otherwise, online sales are already covered. Retailers that sell guns and have an online presence where you can buy them are licensed and therefore, the sales are legal and there is a background check on the buyer. And you simply can’t sell a gun over the internet and ship it over state liunes without restriction or background check even if it is a private sale. That’s right. Even private online sales cannot transfer the weapon without a check. There’s no loophole.

3. Universal Background Checks
Obama: “We know that background checks make a difference.”
Truth: There are already background checks. So this statement is a straw man. What the controllers are pitching is who is required to conduct them and under what circumstances. This idea is sold in the press as simple common sense. The idea is that every time a person becomes the owner of a gun, they are vetted by the government. This would even mean temporary transfers of ownership, like say you give your gun to your mother while you are on deployment. Some states, like recently-in-the-news Oregon, have passed laws that are versions of this. That is, a criminal and mental health background check for all gun sales. (In Oregon’s case, even the new law still allows transfers of ownership among family members without a check.) But the requirement for a background check on all private sales of guns is one of the objectives of the gun control lobby and their media allies. So now you know what they mean by this. They mean that you can’t sell your rifle to your Facebook hunting buddy unless a criminal and mental health background check is conducted.

4. Obama’s Executive Action
Despite the wishes of the gun-grabbers, Obama’s executive action does not address points one through three above. Instead, it simply “requires” that the ATF should enforce the existing laws about licensing people who sell weapons. To that end they are giving more money to the ATF for people who conduct the background checks that already are conducted and are already required by law. There will also be more federal oversight and enforcement on reporting of lost or stolen guns. As a result of Obama’s action, it ispossible that more people will be defined as sellers based on volume as a result of there being more ATF agents, but in reality private sales won’t be changed in any meaningful way, and gun shows and online sales will continue as they do, with only a very few exceptions.

5. Precedent
Although the practical effect of the President’s action is relatively minor, it is a message nevertheless. The President is establishing his authority to simply take action curtailing the constitutionally guaranteed right of Americans to own guns, without the legislature, based on his own decisions about what that action should consist of. As a precedent for gun-grabbing, it may not be strong, but it is absolutely applicable. If you value your freedom to purchase and possess guns, this action is an affront.

Five Things To Know About Obama's Executive Action On Guns | RedState

Thanks for that. I can't wait until the next gun show to see if anything changes.

We got lotsa gun shows in the DFW area this year

Dallas / Ft Worth Gun Shows 2016 list of gun & knife shows in Dallas / Ft Worth

 

[PredFan]

Best I've seen on this so far....I think the majority if this is just posturing and a warm fuzzy feeling for Obungles and his duped sheep.

1. The Gun Show Loophole
Obama: “Anybody in the business of selling firearms must get a license and conduct background checks or be subject to criminal prosecutions.”
Truth: There is no gun show loophole. What people mean is that you have to sell a certain amount of guns before you cross over from private citizen to a dealer requiring a license. A private sale is when a person who owns a gun sells that gun to another person. Some private sales take place at gun shows. But people who are dealers that go to gun shows and sell lots of guns have to be licensed. The sales are legal, and there is a background check on the buyer. This is already the law. There’s no loophole.

2. The Online Loophole
Obama: “A violent felon can buy the exact same weapon over the internet with no background check, no questions asked.”
Truth: There is no online loophole. Exactly as with the gun show, what happens is that a person might privately sell something. Let’s say you own a gun. You have a friend on Facebook who wants to buy a gun. You sell your friend the gun. Because you are not a retailer, you do not have to be licensed as a dealer, and are not required to conduct a background check. That’s it. Otherwise, online sales are already covered. Retailers that sell guns and have an online presence where you can buy them are licensed and therefore, the sales are legal and there is a background check on the buyer. And you simply can’t sell a gun over the internet and ship it over state liunes without restriction or background check even if it is a private sale. That’s right. Even private online sales cannot transfer the weapon without a check. There’s no loophole.

3. Universal Background Checks
Obama: “We know that background checks make a difference.”
Truth: There are already background checks. So this statement is a straw man. What the controllers are pitching is who is required to conduct them and under what circumstances. This idea is sold in the press as simple common sense. The idea is that every time a person becomes the owner of a gun, they are vetted by the government. This would even mean temporary transfers of ownership, like say you give your gun to your mother while you are on deployment. Some states, like recently-in-the-news Oregon, have passed laws that are versions of this. That is, a criminal and mental health background check for all gun sales. (In Oregon’s case, even the new law still allows transfers of ownership among family members without a check.) But the requirement for a background check on all private sales of guns is one of the objectives of the gun control lobby and their media allies. So now you know what they mean by this. They mean that you can’t sell your rifle to your Facebook hunting buddy unless a criminal and mental health background check is conducted.

4. Obama’s Executive Action
Despite the wishes of the gun-grabbers, Obama’s executive action does not address points one through three above. Instead, it simply “requires” that the ATF should enforce the existing laws about licensing people who sell weapons. To that end they are giving more money to the ATF for people who conduct the background checks that already are conducted and are already required by law. There will also be more federal oversight and enforcement on reporting of lost or stolen guns. As a result of Obama’s action, it ispossible that more people will be defined as sellers based on volume as a result of there being more ATF agents, but in reality private sales won’t be changed in any meaningful way, and gun shows and online sales will continue as they do, with only a very few exceptions.

5. Precedent
Although the practical effect of the President’s action is relatively minor, it is a message nevertheless. The President is establishing his authority to simply take action curtailing the constitutionally guaranteed right of Americans to own guns, without the legislature, based on his own decisions about what that action should consist of. As a precedent for gun-grabbing, it may not be strong, but it is absolutely applicable. If you value your freedom to purchase and possess guns, this action is an affront.

Five Things To Know About Obama's Executive Action On Guns | RedState

Thanks for that. I can't wait until the next gun show to see if anything changes.

We got lotsa gun shows in the DFW area this year

Dallas / Ft Worth Gun Shows 2016 list of gun & knife shows in Dallas / Ft Worth

Yeah, we have one a month here.

 

[emilynghiem]

So the dear leader trots out victims of gun violence in an emotionally charged dog and pony show with fake tears and all.

Says if you're in the business of selling guns you must get an FFL, of course speaking in his normal platitudes and bumper sticker slogans he provided no detail as to what constitutes "being in the business of selling guns".

Wants more funding for mental health access after saying mental health is a benefit of maobamacare, so why is more money needed?

Wants to update the background system, that would require congressional action to provide funding.

Wants more FBI and ATF agents, once again a move that would require congressional action.

So what did he really say, well not much, just a lot of emotion, not much common senses, even though he used the phrase often.

My thoughts, fuck off dear leader.

Your thoughts?

He is making a political statement to appease his audience.
Two other people said the 2nd Amendment arguments are empty pacifiers
to lend false security to calm false fears. Maybe the same can be said here?

The liberals use Obama like the Catholics use their Pope.
To issue public statements to establish what they are supposed to do, but make it official.

As long as liberals use Government as their God, then whatever
media coverage can be used to establish their beliefs and agenda,
that is what they keep using the President, Courts and Congress to do.

It's the liberal political religion to use Govt this way.

I say we need to divide this by party, so each party can have and practice (and fund and follow)
their OWN beliefs about govt, using their party and party leaders, structures, elections and policies that way.

And leave all parties to their own beliefs, to keep these out of federal govt.
by "separation of church and state" or "equal protection of all persons from discrimination by creed"

What do you think of THAT idea OKTexas ?
Calling for a Constitutional conference this year on an AGREED process how to identify
and SEPARATE political beliefs by party that are otherwise causing discrimination by creed.

Call it out for what it is. And get this conversation going in the right direction. Where are you in TX? Let me know, let's get it started. PM me and I'll invite you to some meetings to map out how to organize this. Texas is used to leading the nation in political DIY. Why not uphold that tradition?

Simply won't work without dividing the country, a concept I'm becoming more in favor of. BTW I live about 50 NW of the center of Houston.

OKTexas
If the parties are already divided, won't this unite people if everyone can have their way under the party platform that represents them and deserves their tax dollars? Why not respect that, the existing groupings?

It's like the 13 colonies or 50 states retaining sovereignty while uniting under one national agreement.

Why can't we do the same with party but keep it private, outside govt, as currently parties are outside govt.
Let people continue to choose affiliation, vote on leaders, policies and the structures they want to follow. And agree to assist all party leaders and members to manage their own programs this way, so we can all learn self-government and business mgmt and social development of facilities and programs. With no interference, imposition or obstruction by other parties.

The churches do this. the nonprofits and schools. why not organize programs by parties and quit fighting for one party to dominate the other pushing agenda through govt. if religions did that we'd stop them.
why let parties do that with their beliefs?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The Dear Leader Obama is currently live on global television giving an epic lecture/scolding to all us peasants about gun control! It's splendid.

A few early Cliff Notes for all you racists who didn't tune in for the lesson:

- Obama said "tens of thousands of gun deaths in America each year". They must not teach math in Hawaii. America sees on average less than 10,000 per year. Not "tens of thousands" plural.



- Mass gun violence apparently doesn't happen anywhere else in the civilized world and "it's not even close"!! (Although we're 8th...behind Norway, Belgium and others in deaths from mass shootings)

- He is a constitutional scholar and knows what he's talking about. NO....he really said that....he reminded us how smart he is. That was actually part of his lecture...spouting his resume to remind us he's brilliant.

- Rights can be limited once we are civilized. He used the example of how we have to go through scanners to fly on planes (thanks to his Muslim cousins). But....failed to mention that the Constitution does not guarantee a right to FLY or fly armed on a PRIVATE company's airline.

- He apparently ignored that most gun violence is done by black ghetto criminals. Yeah....start there and you eliminate 70% of gun crimes Mr. President. But....you kinda demoralized cops who do exactly that.


- He brought up knife attacks in Asia...and said thanks to the killer not having a gun...fewer died. Yay. Just so happens the murder rate in medieval times was triple today's and they only had knives.


- He still hasn't mentioned the majority of gun deaths are done in black ghettos.


- He just outlawed private sales. Bam. Your grandpa wants to sell you his old hunting rifle? Cant. It's illegal now. Has to give it to a FFL now and have them sell it to you. A knife or bow and arrow? Sure that's ok. Just not a gun.

When he started his speech I went and took a shit. Appropriate tribute I think.

Appropriate picture of where you are and where he is....he's president and you produce nothing but shit.

And you apparently eat it.

 

[Wake]

Is he or is he not trying to ban private gun sales right now?

If he really is, that's fucking unconstitutional.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

I have no doubt private sales will continue without background checks. Breaking the law, thumbing your nose at authority and being a rebel is what being an American is all about. Right? I won't tell if you don't and as long as we don't get caught, who's going to know any different?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Those gun runners in Mexico should be pretty scared !

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I have no doubt private sales will continue without background checks. Breaking the law, thumbing your nose at authority and being a rebel is what being an American is all about. Right? I won't tell if you don't and as long as we don't get caught, who's going to know any different?

You know it's coming.

It's to bad our so-called "constutitional scholar" of a failure does not.

 

[Hossfly]

The Dear Leader Obama is currently live on global television giving an epic lecture/scolding to all us peasants about gun control! It's splendid.

A few early Cliff Notes for all you racists who didn't tune in for the lesson:

- Obama said "tens of thousands of gun deaths in America each year". They must not teach math in Hawaii. America sees on average less than 10,000 per year. Not "tens of thousands" plural.



- Mass gun violence apparently doesn't happen anywhere else in the civilized world and "it's not even close"!! (Although we're 8th...behind Norway, Belgium and others in deaths from mass shootings)

- He is a constitutional scholar and knows what he's talking about. NO....he really said that....he reminded us how smart he is. That was actually part of his lecture...spouting his resume to remind us he's brilliant.

- Rights can be limited once we are civilized. He used the example of how we have to go through scanners to fly on planes (thanks to his Muslim cousins). But....failed to mention that the Constitution does not guarantee a right to FLY or fly armed on a PRIVATE company's airline.

- He apparently ignored that most gun violence is done by black ghetto criminals. Yeah....start there and you eliminate 70% of gun crimes Mr. President. But....you kinda demoralized cops who do exactly that.


- He brought up knife attacks in Asia...and said thanks to the killer not having a gun...fewer died. Yay. Just so happens the murder rate in medieval times was triple today's and they only had knives.


- He still hasn't mentioned the majority of gun deaths are done in black ghettos.


- He just outlawed private sales. Bam. Your grandpa wants to sell you his old hunting rifle? Cant. It's illegal now. Has to give it to a FFL now and have them sell it to you. A knife or bow and arrow? Sure that's ok. Just not a gun.

When he started his speech I went and took a shit. Appropriate tribute I think.

Appropriate picture of where you are and where he is....he's president and you produce nothing but shit.

And you apparently eat it.

Eats shit, runs rabbits and barks at the moon, no doubt. And hates the 2d Amendment.