LOL....Al Gore is back!!

[skookerasbil]

Provided by Danish Arctic Research Institute >>

Arctic Ocean almost totally ice-covered - Map - Ice Age Now

Hey Al!!@www..com

LOL From the Danish site;

Understanding the Arctic sea ice: Polar Portal

Introduction

Sea ice is the layer of ice formed on top of the sea when it freezes. The sea ice in the Arctic covers almost all of the Arctic Ocean during winter. The extent is absolutely enormous: In the month of March, when the ice reaches its maximum extent, it covers approximately 16 million km2, seven times the area of Greenland.

When seawater freezes, the ice crystals growing to form the ice layer reject the salt from the ice, making the water below the ice much saltier. The difference in density between ice and water makes the ice float. The sea ice is highly dynamic. It moves around the Arctic Ocean, pushed and pulled by winds and currents. The extent of sea ice also shrinks and grows during the seasons. During the winter it grows to its maximum in March, and during the summer it diminishes. The sea ice minimum extent is reached in September, the extent is only about 1/3 of that in March.

Two measures for sea ice

The sea ice in the Arctic has reacted noticeably to the rise in air and ocean temperatures: There is significantly less sea ice now compared to 30 years ago.

Scientists use two basic measures for sea ice: extent and thickness.

Extent: Since 1979 it has been possible to monitor sea ice by satellite. We now have more than 30 years of reliable information on the extent of the sea ice cover.

The data shows that the extent in the summer is 30% smaller than it was at the beginning of the 1980s. The extent during winter has diminished by about 10%. In September 2012, the ice extent set a new minimum record: it was the smallest measured since 1979. Compared to the average extent (1979-2000), the sea ice had diminished by 49%.

Figure 1. The development of the extent of the Arctic sea ice by the end of the summer (red line) and at the end of the winter season (blue line). Even though the variation from year to year is obvious, the trend is equally clear. <font color="red">We have improved the algorithms that calculate sea ice concentration and extent. On June 28, 2016, we updated the graphs of ice extent with new data of higher quality (read more <a href="Ocean and Ice Services | Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut" class="external-link-new-window" title="Opens external link in new window" data-htmlarea-external="1">here</a>).</font>


Now that says just opposite of what the site you linked to implied. LOL What liars you people are.

But fAiL.....us people weren't the ones who said the Arctic ice would be long gone by now. So here we are in 2018 and the Arctic is completely covered in ice. You people wonder why the voters dont care about climate change? There ya go! As the Trump landslide proved, the voters dont go for progressive fakery anymore.. In fact, they now expect it @www.whosnotwinning.com

Years ago, Gore used to make a splash with these weekend bomb throwing headline grabs.....now the folks chuckle.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Good I voted for him and he did win the popular vote, how different things would of been without Bush Jr.

Fortunately, he lost the election.

Here we go again... more sniveling about that popular vote myth again...

But did they snivel as much then as now? I do remember hearing something about it back then, but not as much wailing as now

 

[Ridgerunner]

But did they snivel as much then as now? I do remember hearing something about it back then, but not as much wailing as now

Oh no you are quite correct... Remember that was almost 20 years ago, and they do breed unfortunately...

 

[skookerasbil]

The shit that goes on in here.....tells me one thing with crystal clarity: the division in this country needs to be far more excessive.....by a factor of 10. People on the right need to stop treating these frauds as rational actors....they are lying, cheating and deceiving their way to absolute power. Direct ball kicks in succession will be necessary here.....repeatedly. when they're out there protesting for open borders we're in their face. When the anti cop marches start we are in their face. Gun grabbing protests....the Fuck You response needs to be with a smile and about 1 inch from their noses. These mutherfuckers want socialism.... well they ain't getting it!!

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL

 

[Sunsettommy]

Provided by Danish Arctic Research Institute >>

Arctic Ocean almost totally ice-covered - Map - Ice Age Now

Hey Al!!@www..com

LOL From the Danish site;

Understanding the Arctic sea ice: Polar Portal

Introduction

Sea ice is the layer of ice formed on top of the sea when it freezes. The sea ice in the Arctic covers almost all of the Arctic Ocean during winter. The extent is absolutely enormous: In the month of March, when the ice reaches its maximum extent, it covers approximately 16 million km2, seven times the area of Greenland.

When seawater freezes, the ice crystals growing to form the ice layer reject the salt from the ice, making the water below the ice much saltier. The difference in density between ice and water makes the ice float. The sea ice is highly dynamic. It moves around the Arctic Ocean, pushed and pulled by winds and currents. The extent of sea ice also shrinks and grows during the seasons. During the winter it grows to its maximum in March, and during the summer it diminishes. The sea ice minimum extent is reached in September, the extent is only about 1/3 of that in March.

Two measures for sea ice

The sea ice in the Arctic has reacted noticeably to the rise in air and ocean temperatures: There is significantly less sea ice now compared to 30 years ago.

Scientists use two basic measures for sea ice: extent and thickness.

Extent: Since 1979 it has been possible to monitor sea ice by satellite. We now have more than 30 years of reliable information on the extent of the sea ice cover.

The data shows that the extent in the summer is 30% smaller than it was at the beginning of the 1980s. The extent during winter has diminished by about 10%. In September 2012, the ice extent set a new minimum record: it was the smallest measured since 1979. Compared to the average extent (1979-2000), the sea ice had diminished by 49%.

Figure 1. The development of the extent of the Arctic sea ice by the end of the summer (red line) and at the end of the winter season (blue line). Even though the variation from year to year is obvious, the trend is equally clear. <font color="red">We have improved the algorithms that calculate sea ice concentration and extent. On June 28, 2016, we updated the graphs of ice extent with new data of higher quality (read more <a href="Ocean and Ice Services | Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut" class="external-link-new-window" title="Opens external link in new window" data-htmlarea-external="1">here</a>).</font>


Now that says just opposite of what the site you linked to implied. LOL What liars you people are.

Only have to point out something to destroy your silly post, Satellite data started back in 1973...., but you dishonest people started right at the peak of the satellite age of 1979 that showed the highest level of sea ice coverage and volume of the entire satellite sea ice data, short as it is..

What about the many failed No Summer Sea Ice predictions made by warmist scientists?

Ice-Free Arctic Forecasts

Meanwhile warmists like you continue to ignore numerous science papers showing that even THIS YEARS ice cover is well above the average for the entire Holocene.

Meanwhile the 1930's Arctic sea ice level was lower than today:

Another New Paper Shows Arctic Sea Ice Has Been INCREASING Overall Since The 1930s

Going further back in time to the 1400's, which is over 550 years ago.

2 More New Papers Affirm There Is More Arctic Ice Coverage Today Than During The 1400s

 

[Old Rocks]

I don't bother to read shit sites. And that is what you provided. Here are some real papers concerning this subject;

Arctic sea ice extent in the past

It's important to note that we expect the Arctic to have been cooling over the past ~6,000 years due to the Earth's orbital cycles. Thus if we look back far enough in the past, we can certainly find a period during which the Arctic was hotter and Arctic sea ice extent was lower. However, this actually contradicts the argument that the current sea ice decline could be natural, because that long-term orbital forcing has not reversed, and thus cannot account for the sudden and rapid Arctic warming and concurrent sea ice decline.

Kaufman et al. (2009) reconstructed past Arctic temperatures, and confirmed that the Arctic had been cooling for at least the past 2,000 years prior to the 20th Century, and found an Arctic temperature 'hockey stick' (Figure 1).

Figure 1: Arctic temperature change reconstructed by Kaufmann et al. (2009)including data updated for corrigendum and including instrumental measurements for the Arctic region (60 to 90° N) from NASA.

 

[Old Rocks]

Perhaps the authoritative paper on Arctic sea ice extent over the past 1,450 years is Kinnard et al. (2011), which used a combination of Arctic ice core, tree ring, and lake sediment data to reconstruct past Arctic conditions. The results are shown in Figure 2.



Figure 2: Arctic sea ice extent over the past 1,450 years reconstructed from proxy data by Kinnard et al., with a 40-year low pass filter applied. Note that the modern observational data in this figure extend through 2008, and thus it is a close approximation of current conditions, even though the extent is not as low as current annual data due to the 40-year smoothing.

Based on the Kinnard results, Arctic sea ice extent is currently lower than at any time in the past 1,450 years.

Polyak et al. (2010) looked at Arctic sea ice changes throughout geologic history and noted that the current rate of loss appears to be more rapid than natural variability can account for in the historical record.

"The current reduction in Arctic ice cover started in the late 19th century, consistent with the rapidly warming climate, and became very pronounced over the last three decades. This ice loss appears to be unmatched over at least the last few thousand years and unexplainable by any of the known natural variabilities."



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[Old Rocks]

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A 10,000-Year Record of Arctic Ocean Sea-Ice Variability—View from the Beach

1. Svend Funder1,*,
2. Hugues Goosse2,
3. Hans Jepsen1,
4. Eigil Kaas3,
5. Kurt H. Kjær1,
6. Niels J. Korsgaard1,
7. Nicolaj K. Larsen4,
8. Hans Linderson5,
9. Astrid Lyså6,
10. Per Möller5,
11. Jesper Olsen7,
12. Eske Willerslev1

See all authors and affiliations

Science 05 Aug 2011:
Vol. 333, Issue 6043, pp. 747-750
DOI: 10.1126/science.1202760

Abstract
We present a sea-ice record from northern Greenland covering the past 10,000 years. Multiyear sea ice reached a minimum between ~8500 and 6000 years ago, when the limit of year-round sea ice at the coast of Greenland was located ~1000 kilometers to the north of its present position. The subsequent increase in multiyear sea ice culminated during the past 2500 years and is linked to an increase in ice export from the western Arctic and higher variability of ice-drift routes. When the ice was at its minimum in northern Greenland, it greatly increased at Ellesmere Island to the west. The lack of uniformity in past sea-ice changes, which is probably related to large-scale atmospheric anomalies such as the Arctic Oscillation, is not well reproduced in models. This needs to be further explored, as it is likely to have an impact on predictions of future sea-ice distribution.

Yes, more study needed. In the meantime, the ice continues to go away.

 

[Old Rocks]

History of sea ice in the Arctic

Leonid Polyak a,*, Richard B. Alley b , John T. Andrews c , Julie Brigham-Grette d , Thomas M. Cronin e , Dennis A. Darby f , Arthur S. Dyke g , Joan J. Fitzpatrick h , Svend Funder i , Marika Holland j , Anne E. Jennings c , Gifford H. Miller c , Matt O’Regan k , James Savelle l , Mark Serreze j , Kristen St. John m, James W.C. White c , Eric Wolff n a Byrd Polar Research Center, Ohio State University, Columbus, OH 43210, United States b Penn State University, University Park, PA, United States cUniversity of Colorado, Boulder, CO, United States dUniversity of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA, United States eU.S. Geological Survey, Reston, VA, United States f Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, United States gGeological Survey of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada hU.S. Geological Survey, Denver, CO, United States i University of Copenhagen, Copenhagen, Denmark j Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, University of Colorado, Boulder, CO, United States k Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden l McGill University, Montreal, Quebec, Canada m James Madison University, Harrisonburg, VA, United States n British Antarctic Survey, Cambridge, United Kingdom

abstract

Arctic sea-ice extent and volume are declining rapidly. Several studies project that the Arctic Ocean may become seasonally ice-free by the year 2040 or even earlier. Putting this into perspective requires information on the history of Arctic sea-ice conditions through the geologic past. This information can be provided by proxy records from the Arctic Ocean floor and from the surrounding coasts. Although existing records are far from complete, they indicate that sea ice became a feature of the Arctic by 47 Ma, following a pronounced decline in atmospheric pCO2 after the Paleocene–Eocene Thermal Optimum, and consistently covered at least part of the Arctic Ocean for no less than the last 13–14 million years. Ice was apparently most widespread during the last 2–3 million years, in accordance with Earth’s overall cooler climate. Nevertheless, episodes of considerably reduced sea ice or even seasonally ice-free conditions occurred during warmer periods linked to orbital variations. The last low-ice event related to orbital forcing (high insolation) was in the early Holocene, after which the northern high latitudes cooled overall, with some superimposed shorterterm (multidecadal to millennial-scale) and lower-magnitude variability. The current reduction in Arctic ice cover started in the late 19th century, consistent with the rapidly warming climate, and became very pronounced over the last three decades. This ice loss appears to be unmatched over at least the last few thousand years and unexplainable by any of the known natural variabilities.

https://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/jbg/Pubs/Polyak etal seaice QSR10 inpress.pdf

Whole article available at the link.

 

[Likkmee]

Where is Tipper ? Blowing Trey and Track ?

 

[westwall]

Good I voted for him and he did win the popular vote, how different things would of been without Bush Jr.

Fortunately, he lost the election.

Actually he didn't, the Supreme Court decided it, and I remember Romney and his boys were recounting votes.

Wrong as usual. The various MSM newspapers went through and did their very own recount and found that gore lost the vote in florida by over 200 votes. You lose.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Good I voted for him and he did win the popular vote, how different things would of been without Bush Jr.

Fortunately, he lost the election.

Here we go again... more sniveling about that popular vote myth again...

The popular vote and $1 will get you a small coffee at McDonald's.

 

[Likkmee]

Good I voted for him and he did win the popular vote, how different things would of been without Bush Jr.

Fortunately, he lost the election.

Actually he didn't, the Supreme Court decided it, and I remember Romney and his boys were recounting votes.

Herpes always comes back too.




Wrong as usual. The various MSM newspapers went through and did their very own recount and found that gore lost the vote in florida by over 200 votes. You lose.

 

[Penelope]

Good I voted for him and he did win the popular vote, how different things would of been without Bush Jr.

Fortunately, he lost the election.

Actually he didn't, the Supreme Court decided it, and I remember Romney and his boys were recounting votes.

What is up with liberals and lying? Can't you tell the truth just once in your miserable life?

The truth.Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), was a decision of the United States Supreme Court that settled a recount dispute in Florida's 2000 presidential election.

 

[AZGAL]

Well it is a sorry day in hot hell for everyone on this thread when a rather conservative gal from Arizona decides to take the side of Al Gore and uphold the concern about global warming. Gore was not a scam artist trying to make money. That is silly baloney. Gore felt a personal need to wake people up to RESPECTING our environment. He believes that global warming is a threat to life on Earth. He is not a modern day crazed lefty, he is a moderate old school lefty. His wife campaigned against children being exposed to vulgar lyrics in music (the PMRC). The Gores have a stable marriage and are wholesome people. Gore stayed out of much of the Hillary mess during her campaign.

 

[skookerasbil]

I'm laughing....knew we'd get the list of science societies and their members! Counts as zero proof of CO2 causation. It's a club that excels in fakery and cover each other with predetermined outcome research!

Again....the image posted in the beginning of the thread was taken a week ago! Yuk....yuk.........ice covering the whole Arctic!! Can post up 5,000 fake graphs....like they say, a picture is worth 1,000 words!




@www.yourassjusttookthebumpy.com

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Good I voted for him and he did win the popular vote, how different things would of been without Bush Jr.

Fortunately, he lost the election.

Actually he didn't, the Supreme Court decided it, and I remember Romney and his boys were recounting votes.

What is up with liberals and lying? Can't you tell the truth just once in your miserable life?

The truth.Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), was a decision of the United States Supreme Court that settled a recount dispute in Florida's 2000 presidential election.

Yes. dumbass! It kept the Democrats from stealing the election by changing the rules after the game had been played.

Anyone who contends that Gore won the election is a mental case or an idiot. You choose.

 

[skookerasbil]

Good I voted for him and he did win the popular vote, how different things would of been without Bush Jr.

Fortunately, he lost the election.

Actually he didn't, the Supreme Court decided it, and I remember Romney and his boys were recounting votes.

What is up with liberals and lying? Can't you tell the truth just once in your miserable life?

The truth.Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), was a decision of the United States Supreme Court that settled a recount dispute in Florida's 2000 presidential election.

Yes. dumbass! It kept the Democrats from stealing the election by changing the rules after the game had been played.

Anyone who contends that Gore won the election is a mental case or an idiot. You choose.

Finally a guy who recognizes there is a difference between an idiot and a mental case. Nice to see....I'm in the field!

Most all of the these people are of at least average intelligence and in this go RV um, many quite brilliant intellectually, so I have always contended these people have thought processing issues ( ie: mental case ). Its a connect the dots inability in lay person terms. Many of these people come from a family lineage where attendant depression conditions are present on either the mother or the fathers side. Many thought processing conditions fall under the depression umbrella. The one i see in here most frequently is ocd as it relates to perseverative thinking. It is quite beyond their capacity to control voluntarily.... a true brain pathology. Very evident in the line of responses from these people if you pay close attention.... the dynamic is evident when you see the same information being posted over and over and over. Those who get to spend some time with these people would see very clearly that their perception of things is very myopic. It would present as if it appears these people are not listening but that conclusion would be incorrect. They are listening but they are not hearing the other side of the dialogue.... the thinking process does not permit it. People experienced in recognizing it can watch these people in a social conversation and see it a mile away. There is a little true dialogue going on between the two parties.

Not to get too technical but physiologically it is an issue of serotonin uptake or in most cases lack of it. Psychiatrists refer to it around lay people as circular thinking. It is that reason why rational debate in this and other forms is quite impossible, thus the mental case references. We see it here with this person who is still obsessed with an election that happened almost 20 years ago. That same person will be stuck on that 20 years from now without treatment. We see it with people posting up the same handful of links over and over year after year after year despite volumes of new information. It's a brain fuck up.

Sadly, many of these people don't realize that these conditions are treatable with pharmacological aid.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The Arctic region is running -2 deg C from average.. this is the reason the melt is almost nonexistent..

Last year it was running about +1 deg C. There has been a drop of over -3 deg C in just one year due to Sea Surface cooling. Even many areas of the Hudson Bay area are ice locked and cooling sets in later this month... Many outposts have been unable to restock as their ports are inaccessible for the first time in over 40 years.

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