Biden and supporters believed this 42 years ago... and more so today!

[Donald H]

Miami, Florida is only 6.562 feet above sea level

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However, sea level rise has accelerated drastically along the U.S. Southeast and Gulf coasts since 2010 and is now more than 10 mm/year (3.9 inches/decade) — about triple the global rate.

How fast are the seas rising? » Yale Climate Connections

Global sea level has risen 6.7 inches (170 mm) over the past 100 years, and by about 11 inches (280 mm) along the shores of the contiguous U.S. The rise has accelerated, and is now more than double the rate observed in the 20th century.

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So let's do the math...3.9 inches per 10 years or .39 inches per year.
Miami is 78.744 inches above sea level. So divide 78.744 inches by .39 inches sea level growth per year or 201 years before Miami is below sea level. So say the scientists are over 50% wrong but sea level growth is at 1 inch per year for the next 78 years until Miami is under water.

Your calculations are dishonest. Can you tell us why? I'll start you off:

1. Sea level rise is increasing each year.

 

[healthmyths]

Your calculations are dishonest. Can you tell us why? I'll start you off:

1. Sea level rise is increasing each year.

Then you need to tell me how MUCH more than
However, sea level rise has accelerated drastically along the U.S. Southeast and Gulf coasts since 2010 and is now more than 10 mm/year (3.9 inches/decade) — about triple the global rate.

How fast are the seas rising? » Yale Climate Connections

Global sea level has risen 6.7 inches (170 mm) over the past 100 years, and by about 11 inches (280 mm) along the shores of the contiguous U.S. The rise has accelerated, and is now more than double the rate observed in the 20th century.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Relying on nearly a 30-year record of satellite measurements, scientists have measured the rate of sea-level rise at 0.13 inches (3.4 millimeters) per year.

Is the rate of sea-level rise increasing? â NASA Sea Level Change Portal

Visit NASA's portal for an in-depth look at the science behind sea level change.

sealevel.nasa.gov

So let's do the math together..
The sea level has risen at a 30 year rate of 0.13 inches per year.
Miami, Florida is only 6.562 feet above sea level.
6.562 feet above sea level divided by annual increase of 0.13 inches per year would be then
50.47 years...

 

[Donald H]

Then you need to tell me how MUCH more than
However, sea level rise has accelerated drastically along the U.S. Southeast and Gulf coasts since 2010 and is now more than 10 mm/year (3.9 inches/decade) — about triple the global rate.

How fast are the seas rising? » Yale Climate Connections

Global sea level has risen 6.7 inches (170 mm) over the past 100 years, and by about 11 inches (280 mm) along the shores of the contiguous U.S. The rise has accelerated, and is now more than double the rate observed in the 20th century.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Relying on nearly a 30-year record of satellite measurements, scientists have measured the rate of sea-level rise at 0.13 inches (3.4 millimeters) per year.

Is the rate of sea-level rise increasing? â NASA Sea Level Change Portal

Visit NASA's portal for an in-depth look at the science behind sea level change.

sealevel.nasa.gov

So let's do the math together..
The sea level has risen at a 30 year rate of 0.13 inches per year.
Miami, Florida is only 6.562 feet above sea level.
6.562 feet above sea level divided by annual increase of 0.13 inches per year would be then
50.47 years...

I've started you out but you are still lying and exaggerating.
Can you tell us of how you're lying and exaggerating other on-topic issues?
Allow me to help you again:

2. The title of your thread is dishonest spamming.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

No, that's not true, but can you explain why it's not?

Are you a science Denier? Of course anywhere man builds things, nature can destroy.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Miami, Florida is only 6.562 feet above sea level

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However, sea level rise has accelerated drastically along the U.S. Southeast and Gulf coasts since 2010 and is now more than 10 mm/year (3.9 inches/decade) — about triple the global rate.

How fast are the seas rising? » Yale Climate Connections

Global sea level has risen 6.7 inches (170 mm) over the past 100 years, and by about 11 inches (280 mm) along the shores of the contiguous U.S. The rise has accelerated, and is now more than double the rate observed in the 20th century.

yaleclimateconnections.org

So let's do the math...3.9 inches per 10 years or .39 inches per year.
Miami is 78.744 inches above sea level. So divide 78.744 inches by .39 inches sea level growth per year or 201 years before Miami is below sea level. So say the scientists are over 50% wrong but sea level growth is at 1 inch per year for the next 78 years until Miami is under water.

No wonder why when I land in Miami a get a nose bleed from that high altitude.

 

[GMCGeneral]

These are the same clowns that were telling us we were going into a new ice age back in the 1970s.

 

[Donald H]

Are you a science Denier? Of course anywhere man builds things, nature can destroy.

Can you think of anything that man has built that's lasted for thousands of years?

There's nothing to gain in this. We're finished!

 

[Stryder50]

I lived in Tampa fl for over 25 years and every year we were getting warnings about "rising tides".
I never saw any!
The sea is rising about one inch every decade, and heavy rainstorms are becoming more se- vere. In the coming decades, rising temperatures are likely to increase storm damages, harm coral reefs, increase the frequency of unpleasantly hot days, and reduce the risk of freezing to Florida’s agriculture.

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both Florida and Louisiana have an average elevation of just 100 feet above sea level.

United States: average elevation by state | Statista

The United States has an average elevation of roughly 2,500 feet (763m) above sea level, however there is a stark contrast in elevations across the country.

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Sea levels are rising globally as a result of ocean warming and land-based ice melt;

Sea Level Rise - Florida Climate Center

climatecenter.fsu.edu

So if the sea level rises 1 inch ever 10 years... and the average elevation of Florida is 100 feet above
sea level, to cover 100 feet will require 1200 inches in 100 feet or over 1,000 years. Hmmm.
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How much is the ocean rising versus the land sinking ???

 

[healthmyths]

I've started you out but you are still lying and exaggerating.
Can you tell us of how you're lying and exaggerating other on-topic issues?
Allow me to help you again:

2. The title of your thread is dishonest spamming.

What in the title was dishonest?
"Biden and supporters believed this 42 years ago... and more so today!
Biden likes to say he was among the first to introduce a climate change bill in the Senate

Joe Biden on Climate Change: Where the Candidate Stands - Inside Climate News

“It’s almost like denying gravity now. … The willing suspension of disbelief can only be sustained for so long.” —Joe Biden on climate denial, March 2015 Been There Among the current candidates, only former Vice President Joseph Biden has debated a Republican opponent during a past contest for...

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So where is that dishonest?
Also explain to me how a number provided by these scientists can be wrong according to you?
Miami, Florida is only 6.562 feet above sea level

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How many inches in 6.562 feet? 79 inches.
However, sea level rise has accelerated drastically along the U.S. Southeast and Gulf coasts since 2010 and is now more than 10 mm/year (3.9 inches/decade) — about triple the global rate.

How fast are the seas rising? » Yale Climate Connections

Global sea level has risen 6.7 inches (170 mm) over the past 100 years, and by about 11 inches (280 mm) along the shores of the contiguous U.S. The rise has accelerated, and is now more than double the rate observed in the 20th century.

yaleclimateconnections.org

How many inches per year is 3.9 inches divided by 10 (decade)? Answer: .39 inches
So divide 79 inches (6.562 feet above sea level..Miami) by .39 inches per year is how many years?
79/.39 equals 203 years. So correct me if my math is wrong... So the figure of .39 / year is way off by the scientists and it is 1 inch per year and there is 79 inches in 6.562 feet above sea level..
that would be 79 years... Right. .50 inches per year divided into 79 inches would be 158 years.
So .39 inches in 1 year divided into 79 inches would be ??? 203 years! So where is there a problem?

 

[Donald H]

What in the title was dishonest?

Your politics motivated ideas are dishonest. Start a thread in which we can have an honest discussion. And you might want to ask the moderators to police it?

3. AGW and climate change is real.

This one and others like it, I'm outta here.

 

[healthmyths]

How much is the ocean rising versus the land sinking ???

Geez what simple Internet search!
To the right is a picture of the San Joaquin Valley southwest of Mendota in the agricultural area of California. Years and years of pumping groundwater for irrigation has caused the land to drop. The top sign shows where the land surface was back in 1925! Compare that to where Dr. Poland is standing (1977).

Here in the United States, one place that has experienced substantial land subsidence is California. You can read all about it on the USGS California Water Science Center and Texas Water Science Center websites.

Land Subsidence | U.S. Geological Survey

Yes, land subsidence is responsible for you getting a little dizzy when you look at the first picture in the banner above, the one of a line of buildings. The land these buildings sit on has fallen and compacted because large amounts of groundwater have been withdrawn from the aquifers below...

www.usgs.gov

 

[healthmyths]

Your politics motivated ideas are dishonest. Start a thread in which we can have an honest discussion. And you might want to ask the moderators to police it?

3. AGW and climate change is real.

This one and others like it, I'm outta here.

Oh I've never argued climate change isn't real!
Concentrations of CO 2 in the atmosphere were as high as 4,000 ppm during the Cambrian period about 500 million years ago, and as low as 180 ppm during the Quaternary glaciation of the last two million years.

Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere - Wikipedia

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VERSUS all the excitement that a raise of 1.5° in Earth's temperature will be disastrous and totally caused by "fossil fuels" which this idiot President Guarantees to destroy...
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

But when dummies like you who obviously can't use the Internet to substantiate your personal and total erroneous comments I just totally laugh at your ignorance!

I'm all in favor of intelligent dialogue that is comprised of substantiation...(you obviously don't know what the word means... and I bet you chant "From river to sea, Palestine must be free")!
So prove to me where my title was deceiving? Prove to me that 400 CO2 PPM are dangerous to the environment when 500 million years ago the CO2 PPM were 10 times what they are now!

Give me facts... not your guesses!

 

[Crick]

Oh I've never argued climate change isn't real!
Concentrations of CO 2 in the atmosphere were as high as 4,000 ppm during the Cambrian period about 500 million years ago, and as low as 180 ppm during the Quaternary glaciation of the last two million years.

Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

VERSUS all the excitement that a raise of 1.5° in Earth's temperature will be disastrous and totally caused by "fossil fuels" which this idiot President Guarantees to destroy...
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

But when dummies like you who obviously can't use the Internet to substantiate your personal and total erroneous comments I just totally laugh at your ignorance!

I'm all in favor of intelligent dialogue that is comprised of substantiation...(you obviously don't know what the word means... and I bet you chant "From river to sea, Palestine must be free")!
So prove to me where my title was deceiving? Prove to me that CO2 emissions are dangerous to the environment when 500 million years ago the emissions were 10 times what they are now!

Give me facts... not your guesses!

Look at the rates at which temperatures are increasing to day versus the rates at which they changed before human industrialization.

 

[Stryder50]

Look at the rates at which temperatures are increasing to day versus the rates at which they changed before human industrialization.

Rate of change has nothing to do with capacity to retain "heat".
That's an expression of volume/quantity.

 

[healthmyths]

Look at the rates at which temperatures are increasing to day versus the rates at which they changed before human industrialization.

Right. So where were the gasoline engines 500 million years ago to cause 10 times the amount of CO2 then today with all our fossil fuel systems? Please explain where that 4,000 ppm came from then?

Concentrations of CO 2 in the atmosphere were as high as 4,000 ppm during the Cambrian period about 500 million years ago, and as low as 180 ppm during the Quaternary glaciation of the last two million years.

Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[healthmyths]

Look at the rates at which temperatures are increasing to day versus the rates at which they changed before human industrialization.

but you haven't explained how
Concentrations of CO 2 in the atmosphere were as high as 4,000 ppm during the Cambrian period about 500 million years ago, and as low as 180 ppm during the Quaternary glaciation of the last two million years.

Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Where were the fossil fuel systems to cause CO2 emissions? Please tell me what civilizations did 500 million years ago to reduce CO2 to it's current level of 400 ppm.

 

[Crick]

but you haven't explained how Concentrations of CO 2 in the atmosphere were as high as 4,000 ppm during the Cambrian period about 500 million years ago, and as low as 180 ppm during the Quaternary glaciation of the last two million years.

They achieved those ranges via several methods: thermal forcing from Milankovitch changes, volcanism, the introduction of oxygen to the Earth's atmosphere, changes in ocean circulation, etc, etc, etc. Now, what relevance do you believe that has to the current situation?

Where were the fossil fuel systems to cause CO2 emissions? Please tell me what civilizations did 500 million years ago to reduce CO2 to it's current level of 400 ppm.

CO2 is soluble in water and is absorbed by the oceans. It gets sequestered in the Earth via zooplanktonic sedimentation and tectonic subduction. What do you think all that limestone came from? Where do you think all that oil we've been burning came from?

You don't know a great deal about this topic, do you.

 

[Crick]

Rate of change has nothing to do with capacity to retain "heat".
That's an expression of volume/quantity.

The rate of change is critical. If the change we're undergoing took millennia vice centuries or even decades, no one would have paid it any attention. It takes time to adapt. If you don't have the time, you can't and you suffer, fail or die.

 

[Stryder50]

The rate of change is critical. If the change we're undergoing took millennia vice centuries or even decades, no one would have paid it any attention. It takes time to adapt. If you don't have the time, you can't and you suffer, fail or die.

More of your pseudo-science babble.
Amount of CO2 versus everything else in atmosphere is the substance of the phony ACC/AGW scam. The hucksters are claiming it's the change from 280ppm to 400+ ppm that is retaining the extra heat. That claim is unproven, same as you looney rate of change claim.

 

[Sparker]

Florida becoming completely submerged could take a few centuries, but it becoming uninhabitable is faster. It's on porous limestone. The saltwater is seeping through the ground and salinating the groundwater, making it undrinkable. Wealthy waterfront owners are moving to higher ground within the state, but that is only a delay before leaving.