Looming Republican Government Shutdown having Adverse effect on the Market.

[Edgetho]

Don't be ridiculous.

Why should he cave?

The Affordable Care Act was passed by a democratically elected Congress, signed by a democratically elected president, and upheld by the Supreme Court.

U.S. voters had a chance to get rid of it in an election. Instead they voted to keep it because the democrats won and the republicans lost.

It's called democracy.

Shutting down the government, just because they didn't get their way on 1 law is tyrannical.

The Act was passed solely by democrats without a single republican vote.

At that time a Republican vote wasn't needed.

Republican votes weren't needed in FDR's 1930s votes for Social Security, but he went out of his way to get them.

Republican votes weren't need for Medicare, but LBJ went out of his way to get them.

Is that how you jerks role? We don't need to listen to the 'other side' unless we HAVE to?

Of course, my question was one in rhetoric. A passing remark. Just in case anybody thinks otherwise.

I've known all along what kind of totalitarian scumbags dimocraps are. YOU even admit it.

Never in the History of This Country has anything even remotely resembling the importance of the ACA been passed along party lines with NOT ONE VOTE FROM THE OPPOSITION.

What do you think will happen when we regain power?

Stupid bitches. We're going to slam dunk this POS and ruin any chance of getting a workable Universal Health Program for decades.

Had dimocrap scum..... Fuck it. You people really are the political descendants of Hitler and Stalin. You're just too blind to see it

 

[Toro]

The market does not like this. The longer it goes on, the farther the market will fall.

 

[Dot Com]

what makes Repubs, & some eXtreme conservatives on this forum, think that Repubs can hold a law hostage until their wish list is included? Thats what elections are for And the Democrats won the Whitehouse & Senate.

Tissue?

 

[Edgetho]

The market does not like this. The longer it goes on, the farther the market will fall.

Might be a good time to buy....

 

[TooTall]

Don't be ridiculous.

Why should he cave?

The Affordable Care Act was passed by a democratically elected Congress, signed by a democratically elected president, and upheld by the Supreme Court.

U.S. voters had a chance to get rid of it in an election. Instead they voted to keep it because the democrats won and the republicans lost.

It's called democracy.

Shutting down the government, just because they didn't get their way on 1 law is tyrannical.

In case you missed it, winning the White House does not win the debate.

Legislation starts in the Congress. The GOP has won more elections in Congress than the Democrats.

Its called democracy. The Presidency is NOT the only office that matters in a government that HAS three co-equal branches of government.

So after passing through both houses, being signed by the President, surviving all sorts of court challenges, THEN being settled in the Supreme Court...

The House, for the first time in the History of the United States, can capriciously decide to kill a law via funding?

That's never been done before.

And along with the filibuster and all sorts of congressional nonsense, will add another layer of complexity to government.

This probably won't work. But be careful what you wish for..

I said the same exact thing when you folks were happy about the Patriot Act passing.

So were the 98 Senators that voted for it. The one that voted against it lost his seat the next election.

 

[TooTall]

Don't be ridiculous.

Why should he cave?

The Affordable Care Act was passed by a democratically elected Congress, signed by a democratically elected president, and upheld by the Supreme Court.

U.S. voters had a chance to get rid of it in an election. Instead they voted to keep it because the democrats won and the republicans lost.

It's called democracy.

Shutting down the government, just because they didn't get their way on 1 law is tyrannical.

In case you missed it, winning the White House does not win the debate.

Legislation starts in the Congress. The GOP has won more elections in Congress than the Democrats.

Its called democracy. The Presidency is NOT the only office that matters in a government that HAS three co-equal branches of government.

Who is not allowing a conference committee to resolve the differences?

That would be Harry Reid.

 

[Redfish]

Don't be ridiculous.

Why should he cave?

The Affordable Care Act was passed by a democratically elected Congress, signed by a democratically elected president, and upheld by the Supreme Court.

U.S. voters had a chance to get rid of it in an election. Instead they voted to keep it because the democrats won and the republicans lost.

It's called democracy.

Shutting down the government, just because they didn't get their way on 1 law is tyrannical.

In case you missed it, winning the White House does not win the debate.

Legislation starts in the Congress. The GOP has won more elections in Congress than the Democrats.

Its called democracy. The Presidency is NOT the only office that matters in a government that HAS three co-equal branches of government.

So after passing through both houses, being signed by the President, surviving all sorts of court challenges, THEN being settled in the Supreme Court...

The House, for the first time in the History of the United States, can capriciously decide to kill a law via funding?

That's never been done before.

And along with the filibuster and all sorts of congressional nonsense, will add another layer of complexity to government.

This probably won't work. But be careful what you wish for..

I said the same exact thing when you folks were happy about the Patriot Act passing.

ACA was passed by a legislative trick, reconciliation was never intended to be used for something of this magnitude.

congress has no obligation to fund anything---law or not. Their charter is to authorize spending in accordance with revenue and the needs of the country.

A one year delay makes a lot of sense, obama has already given big business a year delay.

 

[Edgetho]

Here's some news that you WON'T hear about in the DISGUSTING FILTH of the LSM.....




U.S. economy boomed during 1995/1996 shutdown

Not only that, but we only lost two of the Congressional Seats we picked up in the 1994 ass-kicking we gave dimocraps in the '94 mid-terms.

Pretty strong. And this time, we have an entire Network that's willing to tell the truth to the American People instead of the lying, stinking DISGUSTING FILTH of the LSM completely and utterly dominating the airwaves.

Newspapers really aren't that important anymore and we have at least some representation on the 'air' so....

dimocraps get HAMMERED if the gubmint goes down....

That guy ^^ Didn't take his challenger seriously either

 

[Toro]

The market does not like this. The longer it goes on, the farther the market will fall.

Might be a good time to buy....

Probably.

 

[Sallow]

The market does not like this. The longer it goes on, the farther the market will fall.

Might be a good time to buy....

Actually..that's true.

 

[BlindBoo]

In case you missed it, winning the White House does not win the debate.

Legislation starts in the Congress. The GOP has won more elections in Congress than the Democrats.

Its called democracy. The Presidency is NOT the only office that matters in a government that HAS three co-equal branches of government.

Who is not allowing a conference committee to resolve the differences?

That would be Harry Reid.

At least that's what listeners of the Echo Chamber beleive huh?

GOP blocks Reid from creating conference committee on budget - The Hill's On The Money

 

[Sallow]

In case you missed it, winning the White House does not win the debate.

Legislation starts in the Congress. The GOP has won more elections in Congress than the Democrats.

Its called democracy. The Presidency is NOT the only office that matters in a government that HAS three co-equal branches of government.

So after passing through both houses, being signed by the President, surviving all sorts of court challenges, THEN being settled in the Supreme Court...

The House, for the first time in the History of the United States, can capriciously decide to kill a law via funding?

That's never been done before.

And along with the filibuster and all sorts of congressional nonsense, will add another layer of complexity to government.

This probably won't work. But be careful what you wish for..

I said the same exact thing when you folks were happy about the Patriot Act passing.

ACA was passed by a legislative trick, reconciliation was never intended to be used for something of this magnitude.

congress has no obligation to fund anything---law or not. Their charter is to authorize spending in accordance with revenue and the needs of the country.

A one year delay makes a lot of sense, obama has already given big business a year delay.

It was used to ram through two major tax cuts for the wealthy by the Bush administration.

 

[Camp]

The votes are in the House that would pass the bill that would prevent a shut down if it was presented as an up or down vote on a clean bill. It would pass with Republican votes. The speaker doesn't have the balls to confront the extreme element in his party. He is afraid he will loose his job as Speaker. Being Speaker is more important to him than the good of the country. He is a selfish coward. If he allows the vote on a clean bill it will pass, but he may loose his job as Speaker. Whats complicated about that?

 

[Edgetho]

So after passing through both houses, being signed by the President, surviving all sorts of court challenges, THEN being settled in the Supreme Court...

The House, for the first time in the History of the United States, can capriciously decide to kill a law via funding?

That's never been done before.

And along with the filibuster and all sorts of congressional nonsense, will add another layer of complexity to government.

This probably won't work. But be careful what you wish for..

I said the same exact thing when you folks were happy about the Patriot Act passing.

ACA was passed by a legislative trick, reconciliation was never intended to be used for something of this magnitude.

congress has no obligation to fund anything---law or not. Their charter is to authorize spending in accordance with revenue and the needs of the country.

A one year delay makes a lot of sense, obama has already given big business a year delay.

It was used to ram through two major tax cuts for the wealthy by the Bush administration.

You know, you really ought to try to understand "Politics" if you're going to post on a "Politics" Board.

Reconciliation IS for Budget legislation.

That's the reason it was invented. Period. It's why it exists.

 

[Eaglewings]

what makes Repubs, & some eXtreme conservatives on this forum, think that Repubs can hold a law hostage until their wish list is included? Thats what elections are for And the Democrats won the Whitehouse & Senate.

Tissue?

Exactly! Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results..

 

[The Rabbi]

The Act was passed solely by democrats without a single republican vote.

The public elected Democratic majorities (and a supermajority) in both chambers and elected a democratic president. What were they supposed to do? Sit around and wait for the next election because it wasn't fair to GOPers?

They were supposed to negotiate to come to a bipartisan agreement on the matter. You know, what the Dems always demand when the GOP controlls Congress? What they promised when they ran? Remember Obama saying he would change the tone in Washington?
Here he is, in case you forgot.

 

[The Rabbi]

The votes are in the House that would pass the bill that would prevent a shut down if it was presented as an up or down vote on a clean bill. It would pass with Republican votes. The speaker doesn't have the balls to confront the extreme element in his party. He is afraid he will loose his job as Speaker. Being Speaker is more important to him than the good of the country. He is a selfish coward. If he allows the vote on a clean bill it will pass, but he may loose his job as Speaker. Whats complicated about that?

If the Senate voted for the House bill and the president signed it it would also avert a shut down. Obviously the Dems want a shut down.
Amd they do. Obama has set it up, declaring he wont negotiate at the outset. Why? Because he's thinking this is 1995 all over again. But it isn't. The economy is shit due to his policies. And people are fed up with big government and especially with ACA, which was passed before anyone understood what it did.

 

[Sallow]

ACA was passed by a legislative trick, reconciliation was never intended to be used for something of this magnitude.

congress has no obligation to fund anything---law or not. Their charter is to authorize spending in accordance with revenue and the needs of the country.

A one year delay makes a lot of sense, obama has already given big business a year delay.

It was used to ram through two major tax cuts for the wealthy by the Bush administration.

You know, you really ought to try to understand "Politics" if you're going to post on a "Politics" Board.

Reconciliation IS for Budget legislation.

That's the reason it was invented. Period. It's why it exists.

Oh please.

It was used because it didn't have popular support.

The ACA did have popular support but the Republicans in congress were using parliamentary tricks to block it.

In the end, it was ruled as a "tax", by the way..thus making reconciliation in this case as "proper" as reconciliation for 2 vastly unpopular and ultimately detrimental tax cuts.

 

[Sallow]

The votes are in the House that would pass the bill that would prevent a shut down if it was presented as an up or down vote on a clean bill. It would pass with Republican votes. The speaker doesn't have the balls to confront the extreme element in his party. He is afraid he will loose his job as Speaker. Being Speaker is more important to him than the good of the country. He is a selfish coward. If he allows the vote on a clean bill it will pass, but he may loose his job as Speaker. Whats complicated about that?

If the Senate voted for the House bill and the president signed it it would also avert a shut down. Obviously the Dems want a shut down.
Amd they do. Obama has set it up, declaring he wont negotiate at the outset. Why? Because he's thinking this is 1995 all over again. But it isn't. The economy is shit due to his policies. And people are fed up with big government and especially with ACA, which was passed before anyone understood what it did.

The ACA is now law and part of the government.

Shutting it down is shutting down government.

That's what the Republicans are doing.

 

[ron4342]

Then obama should not veto the proposed budget. Then there will be no shutdown. Reid should pass it and obama should sign it.

In other words, Obama should give in to the extortion and and agree to gut the ACA. Or put another way, the minority should be able to tell the majority what to do or the minority will crash the nation. Did I nail it???