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Did he use the callbox? No.Exactly. These aren't public streets. That's why there is a gate. Residents are not supposed to give out the gate code. And unaccompanied delivery vehicle would have been stopped... regardless of the race of the driver. But the race-baiters want special privileges. Can't stop me or it's racism. Bullshit.Gated communities have rules. Don't like them? Move.What a shocker the racists here assume because the men who stopped him were white racism had to be their motivation.
There could have been any number of motivations here. Maybe it is against the rules of the Homeowners Association to receive deliveries of furniture on certain days or times- so they know it couldn't have been a delivery?
Don't demean yourself grasping at straws.
I live in a HOA community and can guarantee you, few, if any, have your contrived rule about homeowner deliveries.
Especially since everybody does internet orders!
That's the reason for the gate in the first place. So that the HOA knows who is there, and what their business is. As far as these black guys are concerned, if they were really there just for a legitimate delivery to a legitimate customer, they should have just said so. The idea of Furniture Delivery- Customer confidentiality isn't part of American jurisprudence
That's why gates have call-boxes in gated communities so a resident getting a delivery can be notified by a delivery driver and open the gate!
Jesus.....
Did he use the callbox? No.Exactly. These aren't public streets. That's why there is a gate. Residents are not supposed to give out the gate code. And unaccompanied delivery vehicle would have been stopped... regardless of the race of the driver. But the race-baiters want special privileges. Can't stop me or it's racism. Bullshit.Gated communities have rules. Don't like them? Move.What a shocker the racists here assume because the men who stopped him were white racism had to be their motivation.
There could have been any number of motivations here. Maybe it is against the rules of the Homeowners Association to receive deliveries of furniture on certain days or times- so they know it couldn't have been a delivery?
Don't demean yourself grasping at straws.
I live in a HOA community and can guarantee you, few, if any, have your contrived rule about homeowner deliveries.
Especially since everybody does internet orders!
That's the reason for the gate in the first place. So that the HOA knows who is there, and what their business is. As far as these black guys are concerned, if they were really there just for a legitimate delivery to a legitimate customer, they should have just said so. The idea of Furniture Delivery- Customer confidentiality isn't part of American jurisprudence
That's why gates have call-boxes in gated communities so a resident getting a delivery can be notified by a delivery driver and open the gate!
Jesus.....
The resident gave the delivery driver the gate code.
That is a no-no.
Had he used a callbox and the resident had been home there wouldn't have been an issue.
And if you had stuck to the facts here you might have had a point...instead you are wasting your time and mine.
Did he use the callbox? No.Exactly. These aren't public streets. That's why there is a gate. Residents are not supposed to give out the gate code. And unaccompanied delivery vehicle would have been stopped... regardless of the race of the driver. But the race-baiters want special privileges. Can't stop me or it's racism. Bullshit.Gated communities have rules. Don't like them? Move.What a shocker the racists here assume because the men who stopped him were white racism had to be their motivation.
There could have been any number of motivations here. Maybe it is against the rules of the Homeowners Association to receive deliveries of furniture on certain days or times- so they know it couldn't have been a delivery?
Don't demean yourself grasping at straws.
I live in a HOA community and can guarantee you, few, if any, have your contrived rule about homeowner deliveries.
Especially since everybody does internet orders!
That's the reason for the gate in the first place. So that the HOA knows who is there, and what their business is. As far as these black guys are concerned, if they were really there just for a legitimate delivery to a legitimate customer, they should have just said so. The idea of Furniture Delivery- Customer confidentiality isn't part of American jurisprudence
That's why gates have call-boxes in gated communities so a resident getting a delivery can be notified by a delivery driver and open the gate!
Jesus.....
The resident gave the delivery driver the gate code.
That is a no-no.
Had he used a callbox and the resident had been home there wouldn't have been an issue.
And if you had stuck to the facts here you might have had a point...instead you are wasting your time and mine.
That's on the homeowner, not the delivery driver.
... they obviously knew he used a code. A name on the door and a nametag does not make a delivery driver any more that a police car and a uniform makes a policeman...just ask those folks in Canada.Did he use the callbox? No.Exactly. These aren't public streets. That's why there is a gate. Residents are not supposed to give out the gate code. And unaccompanied delivery vehicle would have been stopped... regardless of the race of the driver. But the race-baiters want special privileges. Can't stop me or it's racism. Bullshit.Gated communities have rules. Don't like them? Move.What a shocker the racists here assume because the men who stopped him were white racism had to be their motivation.
There could have been any number of motivations here. Maybe it is against the rules of the Homeowners Association to receive deliveries of furniture on certain days or times- so they know it couldn't have been a delivery?
Don't demean yourself grasping at straws.
I live in a HOA community and can guarantee you, few, if any, have your contrived rule about homeowner deliveries.
Especially since everybody does internet orders!
That's the reason for the gate in the first place. So that the HOA knows who is there, and what their business is. As far as these black guys are concerned, if they were really there just for a legitimate delivery to a legitimate customer, they should have just said so. The idea of Furniture Delivery- Customer confidentiality isn't part of American jurisprudence
That's why gates have call-boxes in gated communities so a resident getting a delivery can be notified by a delivery driver and open the gate!
Jesus.....
The resident gave the delivery driver the gate code.
That is a no-no.
Had he used a callbox and the resident had been home there wouldn't have been an issue.
And if you had stuck to the facts here you might have had a point...instead you are wasting your time and mine.
That's on the homeowner, not the delivery driver.
How do you expect a delivery driver to enter a gated community to make a delivery if he is not given a code?Did he use the callbox? No.
The resident gave the delivery driver the gate code.
That is a no-no.
Had he used a callbox and the resident had been home there wouldn't have been an issue.
And if you had stuck to the facts here you might have had a point...instead you are wasting your time and mine.
If you don't like the rules...move.How do you expect a delivery driver to enter a gated community to make a delivery if he is not given a code?Did he use the callbox? No.
The resident gave the delivery driver the gate code.
That is a no-no.
Had he used a callbox and the resident had been home there wouldn't have been an issue.
And if you had stuck to the facts here you might have had a point...instead you are wasting your time and mine.
Duh! And instead of a person waiting at home all day for an intended delivery isn't it much more sensible
and reasonable for the home owner to give out an access code so a delivery is not missed and a scheduled
delivery can be made?
I've done that sort of work and having a gate code for delivery purposes is a very common thing.
You need to wake up and stop yammering so much.
Indeed, the home owner put the delivery driver in a fucked up position. Blame the home owner; not the guys who were suspicious.Did he use the callbox? No.Exactly. These aren't public streets. That's why there is a gate. Residents are not supposed to give out the gate code. And unaccompanied delivery vehicle would have been stopped... regardless of the race of the driver. But the race-baiters want special privileges. Can't stop me or it's racism. Bullshit.Gated communities have rules. Don't like them? Move.What a shocker the racists here assume because the men who stopped him were white racism had to be their motivation.
There could have been any number of motivations here. Maybe it is against the rules of the Homeowners Association to receive deliveries of furniture on certain days or times- so they know it couldn't have been a delivery?
Don't demean yourself grasping at straws.
I live in a HOA community and can guarantee you, few, if any, have your contrived rule about homeowner deliveries.
Especially since everybody does internet orders!
That's the reason for the gate in the first place. So that the HOA knows who is there, and what their business is. As far as these black guys are concerned, if they were really there just for a legitimate delivery to a legitimate customer, they should have just said so. The idea of Furniture Delivery- Customer confidentiality isn't part of American jurisprudence
That's why gates have call-boxes in gated communities so a resident getting a delivery can be notified by a delivery driver and open the gate!
Jesus.....
The resident gave the delivery driver the gate code.
That is a no-no.
Had he used a callbox and the resident had been home there wouldn't have been an issue.
And if you had stuck to the facts here you might have had a point...instead you are wasting your time and mine.
That's on the homeowner, not the delivery driver.
He shouldnt have had the code, which obviously made the residents suspicious. Furthermore, if the delivery driver had just said which house he was delivering too, there wouldnt have been a problem. Its not like it was going to be a big secret, since everyone is going to see which house the truck goes to, so his lack of cooperation is what caused the issue.Another one to file under "working while black"
"My intention was never to go viral," Travis Miller said. "My intention was to cover myself in case he called my employer and said I did something other than what I did."
May 14, 2020, 1:33 PM PDT / Updated May 15, 2020, 11:14 AM PDT
By Janelle Griffith and Doha Madani
A black delivery driver was brought to tears while recording himself and a black co-worker as they were blocked from leaving a gated Oklahoma City neighborhood for nearly an hour by a white resident who demanded to know why they were there.
Travis Miller, who delivers home appliances and furniture, captured the incident Monday in a Facebook Live video that has gone viral. The 37-minute video had nearly 300,000 views by Thursday evening and had been shared more than 10,000 times.
Miller, like many of those who commented on the video, believe the encounter was racially motivated.
Miller, 42, told NBC News that his customer in Edmond gave him the code to get through the neighborhood's gate. After completing the delivery and as they were trying to exit, a man who identified himself as David Stewart and a board member of the homeowners' association can be seen on the video questioning Miller and his co-worker about why they were on his street.
A man by that name could not be reached for comment Thursday.
Miller said in the video that he was trying to make a U-turn and that as he turned around, the man was blocking him in with a white Subaru.
"If I go around him, I'm going to have to drive on somebody's property and I don't want to make a bad situation worse," Miller said in the video.
Miller repeatedly asked the man to move the car.
"I'm not moving," the man said. "All you have to do is tell me where you're going."
Miller refused, saying he did not have to tell the man anything.
Miller said Thursday that he kept his seat belt on, remained in the truck and recorded the encounter to protect himself and his colleague.
"My intention was never to go viral," Miller said in a phone interview Thursday. "My intention was to cover myself in case he called my employer and said I did something other than what I did."
He said he also did not want the situation to escalate, because he feared that if police had responded, he would have been perceived as the aggressor.
About 30 minutes into the encounter, a second white man confronted Miller.
"All we want to know is why you're in here and who gave you the gate code," the second man said. "That's all we need to know."
After Miller refused to reveal his client's personal information, the man who identified himself as Stewart said he was calling police.
At one point in the video, Miller can be seen with tears streaming down his face. He wipes his tears away with a blue bandanna before he, too, calls police.
The man who initially approached Miller can be seen in the video calling police to withdraw a report after he got in touch with Miller's customer.
Miller said he also called Edmond police to make sure the man had withdrawn his report.
Miller said his customer defused the situation by telling the two men to move.
"He said he was sorry it happened," Miller said. "He said those guys are overprotective of the neighborhood."
Capt. Larry Withrow of the Oklahoma City Police Department said Friday that officers did not go to the scene because the original caller who reported that "there was a trespasser in the subdivision" at 4:21 p.m. called back about 30 minutes later and cancelled the report. Withrow said a third call was placed at about 4:55 p.m. by a man who said he wanted to know if it was OK for him to leave the property.
Story continued here:
Man blocks black delivery driver in an Oklahoma neighborhood
Man blocks black delivery driver in an Oklahoma neighborhood
What "rules" are those? Do you know homeowners were barred from giving out gate codes so deliveries could be made each day? Or are you just shooting off your mouth to win a stupid argument?If you don't like the rules...move.
Pff, i just watched the video. OF COURSE the delivery driver was acting like an asshole. Its the same thing every time. He didnt like being questioned, so he got pissy. Well, there is a price to pay when you act like that. Im glad his time was wasted. Maybe next time he will act like a civilized citizen and put peoples minds at ease. He could have solved that issue in 60 seconds, but he was a dick instead. Good, fuck him.Another one to file under "working while black"
"My intention was never to go viral," Travis Miller said. "My intention was to cover myself in case he called my employer and said I did something other than what I did."
May 14, 2020, 1:33 PM PDT / Updated May 15, 2020, 11:14 AM PDT
By Janelle Griffith and Doha Madani
A black delivery driver was brought to tears while recording himself and a black co-worker as they were blocked from leaving a gated Oklahoma City neighborhood for nearly an hour by a white resident who demanded to know why they were there.
Travis Miller, who delivers home appliances and furniture, captured the incident Monday in a Facebook Live video that has gone viral. The 37-minute video had nearly 300,000 views by Thursday evening and had been shared more than 10,000 times.
Miller, like many of those who commented on the video, believe the encounter was racially motivated.
Miller, 42, told NBC News that his customer in Edmond gave him the code to get through the neighborhood's gate. After completing the delivery and as they were trying to exit, a man who identified himself as David Stewart and a board member of the homeowners' association can be seen on the video questioning Miller and his co-worker about why they were on his street.
A man by that name could not be reached for comment Thursday.
Miller said in the video that he was trying to make a U-turn and that as he turned around, the man was blocking him in with a white Subaru.
"If I go around him, I'm going to have to drive on somebody's property and I don't want to make a bad situation worse," Miller said in the video.
Miller repeatedly asked the man to move the car.
"I'm not moving," the man said. "All you have to do is tell me where you're going."
Miller refused, saying he did not have to tell the man anything.
Miller said Thursday that he kept his seat belt on, remained in the truck and recorded the encounter to protect himself and his colleague.
"My intention was never to go viral," Miller said in a phone interview Thursday. "My intention was to cover myself in case he called my employer and said I did something other than what I did."
He said he also did not want the situation to escalate, because he feared that if police had responded, he would have been perceived as the aggressor.
About 30 minutes into the encounter, a second white man confronted Miller.
"All we want to know is why you're in here and who gave you the gate code," the second man said. "That's all we need to know."
After Miller refused to reveal his client's personal information, the man who identified himself as Stewart said he was calling police.
At one point in the video, Miller can be seen with tears streaming down his face. He wipes his tears away with a blue bandanna before he, too, calls police.
The man who initially approached Miller can be seen in the video calling police to withdraw a report after he got in touch with Miller's customer.
Miller said he also called Edmond police to make sure the man had withdrawn his report.
Miller said his customer defused the situation by telling the two men to move.
"He said he was sorry it happened," Miller said. "He said those guys are overprotective of the neighborhood."
Capt. Larry Withrow of the Oklahoma City Police Department said Friday that officers did not go to the scene because the original caller who reported that "there was a trespasser in the subdivision" at 4:21 p.m. called back about 30 minutes later and cancelled the report. Withrow said a third call was placed at about 4:55 p.m. by a man who said he wanted to know if it was OK for him to leave the property.
Story continued here:
Man blocks black delivery driver in an Oklahoma neighborhood
Man blocks black delivery driver in an Oklahoma neighborhood
Are you an idiot with zero critical thinking skills? That's not an attack...that's a serious question.What "rules" are those? Do you know homeowners were barred from giving out gate codes so deliveries could be made each day? Or are you just shooting off your mouth to win a stupid argument?If you don't like the rules...move.
Like I said, I've done that sort of work. I doubt you have.
Pff, i just watched the video. OF COURSE the delivery driver was acting like an asshole. Its the same thing every time. He didnt like being questioned, so he got pissy. Well, there is a price to pay when you act like that. Im glad his time was wasted. Maybe next time he will act like a civilized citizen and put peoples minds at ease. He could have solved that issue in 60 seconds, but he was a dick instead. Good, fuck him.Another one to file under "working while black"
"My intention was never to go viral," Travis Miller said. "My intention was to cover myself in case he called my employer and said I did something other than what I did."
May 14, 2020, 1:33 PM PDT / Updated May 15, 2020, 11:14 AM PDT
By Janelle Griffith and Doha Madani
A black delivery driver was brought to tears while recording himself and a black co-worker as they were blocked from leaving a gated Oklahoma City neighborhood for nearly an hour by a white resident who demanded to know why they were there.
Travis Miller, who delivers home appliances and furniture, captured the incident Monday in a Facebook Live video that has gone viral. The 37-minute video had nearly 300,000 views by Thursday evening and had been shared more than 10,000 times.
Miller, like many of those who commented on the video, believe the encounter was racially motivated.
Miller, 42, told NBC News that his customer in Edmond gave him the code to get through the neighborhood's gate. After completing the delivery and as they were trying to exit, a man who identified himself as David Stewart and a board member of the homeowners' association can be seen on the video questioning Miller and his co-worker about why they were on his street.
A man by that name could not be reached for comment Thursday.
Miller said in the video that he was trying to make a U-turn and that as he turned around, the man was blocking him in with a white Subaru.
"If I go around him, I'm going to have to drive on somebody's property and I don't want to make a bad situation worse," Miller said in the video.
Miller repeatedly asked the man to move the car.
"I'm not moving," the man said. "All you have to do is tell me where you're going."
Miller refused, saying he did not have to tell the man anything.
Miller said Thursday that he kept his seat belt on, remained in the truck and recorded the encounter to protect himself and his colleague.
"My intention was never to go viral," Miller said in a phone interview Thursday. "My intention was to cover myself in case he called my employer and said I did something other than what I did."
He said he also did not want the situation to escalate, because he feared that if police had responded, he would have been perceived as the aggressor.
About 30 minutes into the encounter, a second white man confronted Miller.
"All we want to know is why you're in here and who gave you the gate code," the second man said. "That's all we need to know."
After Miller refused to reveal his client's personal information, the man who identified himself as Stewart said he was calling police.
At one point in the video, Miller can be seen with tears streaming down his face. He wipes his tears away with a blue bandanna before he, too, calls police.
The man who initially approached Miller can be seen in the video calling police to withdraw a report after he got in touch with Miller's customer.
Miller said he also called Edmond police to make sure the man had withdrawn his report.
Miller said his customer defused the situation by telling the two men to move.
"He said he was sorry it happened," Miller said. "He said those guys are overprotective of the neighborhood."
Capt. Larry Withrow of the Oklahoma City Police Department said Friday that officers did not go to the scene because the original caller who reported that "there was a trespasser in the subdivision" at 4:21 p.m. called back about 30 minutes later and cancelled the report. Withrow said a third call was placed at about 4:55 p.m. by a man who said he wanted to know if it was OK for him to leave the property.
Story continued here:
Man blocks black delivery driver in an Oklahoma neighborhood
Man blocks black delivery driver in an Oklahoma neighborhood
Are you an idiot with zero critical thinking skills? That's not an attack...that's a serious question.What "rules" are those? Do you know homeowners were barred from giving out gate codes so deliveries could be made each day? Or are you just shooting off your mouth to win a stupid argument?If you don't like the rules...move.
Like I said, I've done that sort of work. I doubt you have.
From the article:
"Miller, 42, told NBC News that his customer in Edmond gave him the code to get through the neighborhood's gate."
"All we want to know is why you're in here and who gave you the gate code," the second man said. "That's all we need to know."
After Miller refused to reveal his client's personal information, the man who identified himself as Stewart said he was calling police.
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This is what is wrong with America...a bunch off dumbasses who can't put two and two together without it equaling not five...but onion.
And that my friend is why I hate HOAs.Are you an idiot with zero critical thinking skills? That's not an attack...that's a serious question.What "rules" are those? Do you know homeowners were barred from giving out gate codes so deliveries could be made each day? Or are you just shooting off your mouth to win a stupid argument?If you don't like the rules...move.
Like I said, I've done that sort of work. I doubt you have.
From the article:
"Miller, 42, told NBC News that his customer in Edmond gave him the code to get through the neighborhood's gate."
"All we want to know is why you're in here and who gave you the gate code," the second man said. "That's all we need to know."
After Miller refused to reveal his client's personal information, the man who identified himself as Stewart said he was calling police.
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This is what is wrong with America...a bunch off dumbasses who can't put two and two together without it equaling not five...but onion.
What's wrong are nosy MF'ers who don't mind their own business.
I think the driver could have provided that information however holding the men hostage for
an excessive length of time was also wrong and ill advised.
People dont like being robbed, dipshit. We arent EVER going to mind our own business. Your black skin color doesnt make you exempt either, so dont even waste your breath with that shit.Are you an idiot with zero critical thinking skills? That's not an attack...that's a serious question.What "rules" are those? Do you know homeowners were barred from giving out gate codes so deliveries could be made each day? Or are you just shooting off your mouth to win a stupid argument?If you don't like the rules...move.
Like I said, I've done that sort of work. I doubt you have.
From the article:
"Miller, 42, told NBC News that his customer in Edmond gave him the code to get through the neighborhood's gate."
"All we want to know is why you're in here and who gave you the gate code," the second man said. "That's all we need to know."
After Miller refused to reveal his client's personal information, the man who identified himself as Stewart said he was calling police.
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This is what is wrong with America...a bunch off dumbasses who can't put two and two together without it equaling not five...but onion.
What's wrong are nosy MF'ers who don't mind their own business.
It accomplished exactly why they stopped him in the first place. They wanted to know if he was supposed to be there or not. Who cares how long that takes?I think the driver could have provided that information however holding the men hostage for
an excessive length of time was also wrong and ill advised.
The truck was prevented from leaving for an hour? That's ridiculous and it accomplished nothing.
No they dont.I think the driver could have provided that information however holding the men hostage for
an excessive length of time was also wrong and ill advised.
The law calls that harassment.
