Man gets two years probation for confronting foreigner with a Puerto Rican shirt on

If you're talking about the Puerto Rican Supreme Court's recognition that Puerto Ricans were citizens of Puerto Rico......what change? The US government had recognized that for far, far longer.

Puerto Ricans are citizens of Puerto Rico...AND the United States. Just like someone residing in Texas is a citizen of the State of Texas AND the United States.

Remember, you're clueless. It tends to hamper your arguments. Which is why you keep making up imaginary pseudo-legal 'requirements'.
Were Puerto Ricans subject to the vietnam war draft?

Irrelevant. As being subject to the draft isn't a requirement for citizenship either.

Any other imaginary pseudo-legal 'requirements' you want to make up? That they have to have Driver's Licenses to be US citizens? That they have to have a Facebook Account? That they're legally required to speak English or be right handed?

The only requirement that a Puerto Rican has to be a US Citizen.....is being born in Puerto Rico.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Your imagination loses again.
Are Puerto Ricans constitutional citizens?
Supreme Court Justice Edward D. White attempted to answer this question when he wrote a concurring opinion in Downes v. Bidwell. His opinion is regarded by scholars as the source of the doctrine on territorial incorporation. The doctrine contains three basic elements.

First, it recognizes a difference between incorporated territories – those meant to become states – and unincorporated territories.

Second, Congress is granted absolute power to enact legislation extending or withholding constitutional provisions. In other words, only fundamental constitutional rights are guaranteed in unincorporated territories, not the full application of civil rights.

Third, unincorporated territories can be selectively governed as foreign locations in a constitutional sense. That means that so long as Congress is not violating the fundamental constitutional rights of Puerto Ricans, Congress can choose to treat Puerto Rico as a foreign country for legal purposes.

The prevailing consensus to this day is in line with White’s interpretation – that the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment does not extend to Puerto Rico. Since the Downes ruling, for 116 years, Congress has governed Puerto Rico as a separate and unequal territory.

Are Puerto Ricans really American citizens?

With congress recognizing that anyone one born in Puerto Rico is a citizen, the birth right citizenship issue under the 14th amendment is irrelevant.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

And the law passed by Congress, which has sole authority over issues of naturalization, is crystal clear on whether those born in Puerto Rico are US citizens.

Try again.
Not by the people ,, they are foreigners to me

You're not 'the people'. Nor is 'foreigners to me' a legal standard. Its just more meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Back in reality, the law establishes the only legal requirements for Puerto Ricans to be US Citizens: being born in Puerto Rico.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

That you disagree is meaningless.
 
Were Puerto Ricans subject to the vietnam war draft?

Irrelevant. As being subject to the draft isn't a requirement for citizenship either.

Any other imaginary pseudo-legal 'requirements' you want to make up? That they have to have Driver's Licenses to be US citizens? That they have to have a Facebook Account? That they're legally required to speak English or be right handed?

The only requirement that a Puerto Rican has to be a US Citizen.....is being born in Puerto Rico.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Your imagination loses again.
Are Puerto Ricans constitutional citizens?
Supreme Court Justice Edward D. White attempted to answer this question when he wrote a concurring opinion in Downes v. Bidwell. His opinion is regarded by scholars as the source of the doctrine on territorial incorporation. The doctrine contains three basic elements.

First, it recognizes a difference between incorporated territories – those meant to become states – and unincorporated territories.

Second, Congress is granted absolute power to enact legislation extending or withholding constitutional provisions. In other words, only fundamental constitutional rights are guaranteed in unincorporated territories, not the full application of civil rights.

Third, unincorporated territories can be selectively governed as foreign locations in a constitutional sense. That means that so long as Congress is not violating the fundamental constitutional rights of Puerto Ricans, Congress can choose to treat Puerto Rico as a foreign country for legal purposes.

The prevailing consensus to this day is in line with White’s interpretation – that the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment does not extend to Puerto Rico. Since the Downes ruling, for 116 years, Congress has governed Puerto Rico as a separate and unequal territory.

Are Puerto Ricans really American citizens?

With congress recognizing that anyone one born in Puerto Rico is a citizen, the birth right citizenship issue under the 14th amendment is irrelevant.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

And the law passed by Congress, which has sole authority over issues of naturalization, is crystal clear on whether those born in Puerto Rico are US citizens.

Try again.
Not by the people ,, they are foreigners to me

You're not 'the people'. Nor is 'foreigners to me' a legal standard. Its just more meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Back in reality, the law establishes the only legal requirements for Puerto Ricans to be US Citizens: being born in Puerto Rico.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

That you disagree is meaningless.
Foreigners
 
Irrelevant. As being subject to the draft isn't a requirement for citizenship either.

Any other imaginary pseudo-legal 'requirements' you want to make up? That they have to have Driver's Licenses to be US citizens? That they have to have a Facebook Account? That they're legally required to speak English or be right handed?

The only requirement that a Puerto Rican has to be a US Citizen.....is being born in Puerto Rico.

Your imagination loses again.
Are Puerto Ricans constitutional citizens?
Supreme Court Justice Edward D. White attempted to answer this question when he wrote a concurring opinion in Downes v. Bidwell. His opinion is regarded by scholars as the source of the doctrine on territorial incorporation. The doctrine contains three basic elements.

First, it recognizes a difference between incorporated territories – those meant to become states – and unincorporated territories.

Second, Congress is granted absolute power to enact legislation extending or withholding constitutional provisions. In other words, only fundamental constitutional rights are guaranteed in unincorporated territories, not the full application of civil rights.

Third, unincorporated territories can be selectively governed as foreign locations in a constitutional sense. That means that so long as Congress is not violating the fundamental constitutional rights of Puerto Ricans, Congress can choose to treat Puerto Rico as a foreign country for legal purposes.

The prevailing consensus to this day is in line with White’s interpretation – that the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment does not extend to Puerto Rico. Since the Downes ruling, for 116 years, Congress has governed Puerto Rico as a separate and unequal territory.

Are Puerto Ricans really American citizens?

With congress recognizing that anyone one born in Puerto Rico is a citizen, the birth right citizenship issue under the 14th amendment is irrelevant.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

And the law passed by Congress, which has sole authority over issues of naturalization, is crystal clear on whether those born in Puerto Rico are US citizens.

Try again.
Not by the people ,, they are foreigners to me

You're not 'the people'. Nor is 'foreigners to me' a legal standard. Its just more meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Back in reality, the law establishes the only legal requirements for Puerto Ricans to be US Citizens: being born in Puerto Rico.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

That you disagree is meaningless.
Foreigners

Says you, citing you.

The law contradicts you. The law is authoritative. You're not.
 
Are Puerto Ricans constitutional citizens?
Supreme Court Justice Edward D. White attempted to answer this question when he wrote a concurring opinion in Downes v. Bidwell. His opinion is regarded by scholars as the source of the doctrine on territorial incorporation. The doctrine contains three basic elements.

First, it recognizes a difference between incorporated territories – those meant to become states – and unincorporated territories.

Second, Congress is granted absolute power to enact legislation extending or withholding constitutional provisions. In other words, only fundamental constitutional rights are guaranteed in unincorporated territories, not the full application of civil rights.

Third, unincorporated territories can be selectively governed as foreign locations in a constitutional sense. That means that so long as Congress is not violating the fundamental constitutional rights of Puerto Ricans, Congress can choose to treat Puerto Rico as a foreign country for legal purposes.

The prevailing consensus to this day is in line with White’s interpretation – that the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment does not extend to Puerto Rico. Since the Downes ruling, for 116 years, Congress has governed Puerto Rico as a separate and unequal territory.

Are Puerto Ricans really American citizens?

With congress recognizing that anyone one born in Puerto Rico is a citizen, the birth right citizenship issue under the 14th amendment is irrelevant.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

And the law passed by Congress, which has sole authority over issues of naturalization, is crystal clear on whether those born in Puerto Rico are US citizens.

Try again.
Not by the people ,, they are foreigners to me

You're not 'the people'. Nor is 'foreigners to me' a legal standard. Its just more meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Back in reality, the law establishes the only legal requirements for Puerto Ricans to be US Citizens: being born in Puerto Rico.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

That you disagree is meaningless.
Foreigners

Says you, citing you.

The law contradicts you. The law is authoritative. You're not.
We the people
 
Lets us use your claims about having the issue of Puerto Rico on the 'federal ballot' in 2020 as a test of the veracity of your claims.

If you do, I'll happily admit that you were right.

If you can't, then you'll admit that you were wrong.

Given that there is no 'federal ballot' and you made all of that up, you've got a bit of an uphill climb. But if you really believe your claims, then you'll take my challenge. If you don't, you'll give us snivelling excuses why you won't.
 
With congress recognizing that anyone one born in Puerto Rico is a citizen, the birth right citizenship issue under the 14th amendment is irrelevant.

And the law passed by Congress, which has sole authority over issues of naturalization, is crystal clear on whether those born in Puerto Rico are US citizens.

Try again.
Not by the people ,, they are foreigners to me

You're not 'the people'. Nor is 'foreigners to me' a legal standard. Its just more meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Back in reality, the law establishes the only legal requirements for Puerto Ricans to be US Citizens: being born in Puerto Rico.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

That you disagree is meaningless.
Foreigners

Says you, citing you.

The law contradicts you. The law is authoritative. You're not.
We the people

You're not 'the people'. You're just you.

And constitutionally, you're nobody.
 
Not by the people ,, they are foreigners to me

You're not 'the people'. Nor is 'foreigners to me' a legal standard. Its just more meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Back in reality, the law establishes the only legal requirements for Puerto Ricans to be US Citizens: being born in Puerto Rico.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

That you disagree is meaningless.
Foreigners

Says you, citing you.

The law contradicts you. The law is authoritative. You're not.
We the people

You're not 'the people'. You're just you.

And constitutionally, you're nobody.
They are not Americans
 
You're not 'the people'. Nor is 'foreigners to me' a legal standard. Its just more meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Back in reality, the law establishes the only legal requirements for Puerto Ricans to be US Citizens: being born in Puerto Rico.

That you disagree is meaningless.
Foreigners

Says you, citing you.

The law contradicts you. The law is authoritative. You're not.
We the people

You're not 'the people'. You're just you.

And constitutionally, you're nobody.
They are not Americans

Says you. And you're nobody. The law says otherwise.

Is this really it? Just you making up imaginary pseudo-legal gibberish, backed by nothing?

If so, that was easy.

So I ask again:
Lets us use your claims about having the issue of Puerto Rico on the 'federal ballot' in 2020 as a test of the veracity of your claims.

If you do, I'll happily admit that you were right.

If you can't, then you'll admit that you were wrong.

Given that there is no 'federal ballot' and you made all of that up, you've got a bit of an uphill climb. But if you really believe your claims, then you'll take my challenge. If you don't, you'll give us snivelling excuses why you won't.
 
Foreigners

Says you, citing you.

The law contradicts you. The law is authoritative. You're not.
We the people

You're not 'the people'. You're just you.

And constitutionally, you're nobody.
They are not Americans

Says you. And you're nobody. The law says otherwise.

Is this really it? Just you making up imaginary pseudo-legal gibberish, backed by nothing?

If so, that was easy.

So I ask again:
Lets us use your claims about having the issue of Puerto Rico on the 'federal ballot' in 2020 as a test of the veracity of your claims.

If you do, I'll happily admit that you were right.

If you can't, then you'll admit that you were wrong.

Given that there is no 'federal ballot' and you made all of that up, you've got a bit of an uphill climb. But if you really believe your claims, then you'll take my challenge. If you don't, you'll give us snivelling excuses why you won't.
They ain’t Americans
 
Irrelevant. Payment of federal income taxes isn't a requirement for US citizenship. For Puerto Ricans, being born in Puerto Rico is;

See how this works? Your imagination is irrelevant. The law isn't.
1899? I think you need to update your information. :laugh:

I think you may actually want to read the law you're babbling about, first.

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

It helps if you don't stop at the first sentence.
You do realize they changed things in 1997, right?

If you're talking about the Puerto Rican Supreme Court's recognition that Puerto Ricans were citizens of Puerto Rico......what change? The US government had recognized that for far, far longer.

Puerto Ricans are citizens of Puerto Rico...AND the United States. Just like someone residing in Texas is a citizen of the State of Texas AND the United States.

Remember, you're clueless. It tends to hamper your arguments. Which is why you keep making up imaginary pseudo-legal 'requirements'.
Were Puerto Ricans subject to the vietnam war draft?

We know someone who wasn't.
 
Says you, citing you.

The law contradicts you. The law is authoritative. You're not.
We the people

You're not 'the people'. You're just you.

And constitutionally, you're nobody.
They are not Americans

Says you. And you're nobody. The law says otherwise.

Is this really it? Just you making up imaginary pseudo-legal gibberish, backed by nothing?

If so, that was easy.

So I ask again:
Lets us use your claims about having the issue of Puerto Rico on the 'federal ballot' in 2020 as a test of the veracity of your claims.

If you do, I'll happily admit that you were right.

If you can't, then you'll admit that you were wrong.

Given that there is no 'federal ballot' and you made all of that up, you've got a bit of an uphill climb. But if you really believe your claims, then you'll take my challenge. If you don't, you'll give us snivelling excuses why you won't.
They ain’t Americans

If they ain't white, then they ain't right.

MAWA.
 
Black people in America start fights every second of every day for dumbass reasons and it never makes the national headlines.
 
Black people in America start fights every second of every day for dumbass reasons and it never makes the national headlines.

…….and white folks don't.

On the rare occasion white people do fuck up especially if it inconveniences a "person of color" the MSM makes sure to broadcast their face and name all over the internet

It is obvious you don't watch the news.

Don't tell me you think the mainstream press focuses a lot of negative attention on "minorities".
 
Black people in America start fights every second of every day for dumbass reasons and it never makes the national headlines.

…….and white folks don't.

On the rare occasion white people do fuck up especially if it inconveniences a "person of color" the MSM makes sure to broadcast their face and name all over the internet

It is obvious you don't watch the news.

Don't tell me you think the mainstream press focuses a lot of negative attention on "minorities".

Again watch the local news some time and see what the main focus is.
 
Black people in America start fights every second of every day for dumbass reasons and it never makes the national headlines.

…….and white folks don't.

On the rare occasion white people do fuck up especially if it inconveniences a "person of color" the MSM makes sure to broadcast their face and name all over the internet

It is obvious you don't watch the news.

Don't tell me you think the mainstream press focuses a lot of negative attention on "minorities".

Again watch the local news some time and see what the main focus is.

National news gets its stories from local sources and they never, ever choose to sensationalize the rampant minority crime plaguing urban areas or the many cases of blatant hate crimes committed against whites.
 
ahhh wtf happen to free speech!?
How do you get jail time for calling out a foreigner for wearing another flag!?

We spent so much money on welfare to Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans
We should be allowed to talk

Man gets probation for confronting woman over Puerto Rican flag T-shirt


"How do you get jail time for calling out a foreigner for wearing another flag!?"

CONFRONTING.

he should NOT have CONFRONTED her.

thats practically "assault"

he and you have every right to be worse than trump. you just can't go up to people and bother them.

I'm sure if I went right up to YOU and said "go back to russia you fascist nazi piece of trump loving garbage" you would have shot me dead and claimed "I was standing my ground"


well....the piece of conservative garbage assaulted her
she stood her ground
and now he has legal problems
Words are assault? Lol hah la


Definition
The definition of assault varies by jurisdiction, but is generally defined as intentionally putting another person in reasonable apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. Physical injury is not required.
 
ahhh wtf happen to free speech!?
How do you get jail time for calling out a foreigner for wearing another flag!?

We spent so much money on welfare to Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans
We should be allowed to talk

Man gets probation for confronting woman over Puerto Rican flag T-shirt

Puerto Ricans are Americans.
Why can’t they vote for the president ?

Because the people don't elect presidents. The electoral college does.

Every Puerto Rican is a US citizen.

Which, of course, you already know. Making your 'foreigner' bullshit not only laughably wrong. But a foolish, intentional lie.

If your argument had merit, you wouldn't need to lie to support it.
Then why don’t they pay federal income tax?

Because they do not have the right to vote, so that would be taxation without representation
 

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