Man gets two years probation for confronting foreigner with a Puerto Rican shirt on

[Skylar]

Your personal personal bigotry doesn't change the law in the slighest. Nor does it change anyone's citizenship status. As you're nobody.

While Puerto Rico is definitely part of the United States. And Puerto Ricans are definitely US citizens

My sisters are ricans and no I don’t

Your sisteers being Puerto Ricans doesn't make you immune to bigotry. Or change the laws. Or change anyone's citizenship status.

You keep offering us standards that are meaningless. Meanwhile, the law is clear:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

And in any contest between you and the USC, the USC wins.

Except when democrats decide they don’t like laws. Then they gladly ignore them. Hypocrite

I'm not the one ignoring the law on Puerto Rico. I'm the one citing it.

If you believe in the sanctity of the law, then the law is clear:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

And as such should pay federal income tax.

Take it up with Congress. Payment of US federal income tax has no bearing on US citizenship.

 

[Thunderbird]

What happened to freedom of speech? The man did not threaten the woman. Does the Left believe in liberty or not?

 

[Jitss617]

By leader of the movement in Boston I’m going to mandate that this question about Puerto Rico be on the next ballot

There is no 'federal ballot' allowing the people to vote directly for federal laws.

Again, you're horribly confused. You're citing STATE initiatives.

Do you not get the difference between State and Federal?

Yes and each state can vote on the question TO CHANGE FEDERAL LAW. Like it’s been done before..

No, they can't. The people have no direct say in the creation of federal laws.

What you're talking about is an amendment to the US constitution. It and it doesn't require any direct participation from the people either. Its all about the State Legislatures and what they will *allow*.

Your state might ALLOW you to vote on an amendment. But they don't have to. There's no constitutional requirement that they do. And even then, you're not voting to change federal law. You're voting in a STATE initiative that the State legislature has chosen to determine if the your State legislature will back an amendment.

There are layers of representative democracy between you and any change at the federal level.

WE THE PEOPLE,, not we the Bureaucrats

Alas, you are not 'the people'.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

Cool story but you’re wrong I’m gonna make sure it’s on the ballot in 2020

They not a state they can’t speak English they pay no taxes they ain’t no American motherfucker

 

[Skylar]

You seem confused. Puerto Ricans are able to vote and they do pay taxes. Just not for president...and not federal income taxes if they happen to reside in Puerto Rico.

And if you moved to Puerto Rico, neither would you.

And you'd be no less a U.S. Citizen for it.

No, they don’t pay federal income taxes. They should stop leeching off the Taxpayers.

Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Mississippi, Kentucky, Montana.......they all receive more in federal money than they pay.

Should all those Red States stop leeching off the Tax Payers?

So, yes. Go to a flat tax! Stop the bullshit.

Flat taxes don't have a thing to do with a State paying more than it takes in.

Perhaps you're referring to apportionment.....which would be relevant. But also isn't a constitutional requirement for income taxes since the 16th amendment.

Do I really need to spoon feed you your own argument?

A flat tax ends the bickering of who pays more. No exceptions, no excuses. No exemptions.

Not state v. state it wouldn't. And it would have nothing to do with how much money was spent ON a particular state.

You're confusing a flat tax with the apportionment clause.

They're not the same thing. In fact, they're opposites. A flat tax is about tax COLLECTION. Apportionment is about Tax DISTRIBUTION.

 

[Godboy]

You need to do some reading...

Puerto Rican citizenship - Wikipedia

Your own source says over and over that Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

Maybe you wanna read what you're linking to?

In 1997...

The Puerto Rico Supreme Court decision affirmed that persons born in Puerto Rico and persons subject to their jurisdiction are citizens of Puerto Rico under the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico Constitution.

Puerto Ricans ARE Puerto Rican citizens. And US citizens.

Just like a citizen of Texas is a citizen of the state in which they recede AND a US citizen.

Do you not get how this works?

If they were US citizens, they could vote in our elections. How many times do i need to make this onvious point?

Meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Voting for president is not a prerequisite for ANY US citizenship. To say nothing of the US citizensip of Puerto Ricans. Debunking your made up 'requirements'. Leaving us with the actual law and the actual requirements:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

The only thing necessary to be a US citizen for someone in Puerto Rico....is to be born in Puerto Rico.

Try again. This time without your made up pseudo-legal 'requirements'.

The vast majority of them dont even pay federal taxes. Those that do, pay a fraction of what we pay.

 

[Skylar]

By leader of the movement in Boston I’m going to mandate that this question about Puerto Rico be on the next ballot

There is no 'federal ballot' allowing the people to vote directly for federal laws.

Again, you're horribly confused. You're citing STATE initiatives.

Do you not get the difference between State and Federal?

Yes and each state can vote on the question TO CHANGE FEDERAL LAW. Like it’s been done before..

No, they can't. The people have no direct say in the creation of federal laws.

What you're talking about is an amendment to the US constitution. It and it doesn't require any direct participation from the people either. Its all about the State Legislatures and what they will *allow*.

Your state might ALLOW you to vote on an amendment. But they don't have to. There's no constitutional requirement that they do. And even then, you're not voting to change federal law. You're voting in a STATE initiative that the State legislature has chosen to determine if the your State legislature will back an amendment.

There are layers of representative democracy between you and any change at the federal level.

WE THE PEOPLE,, not we the Bureaucrats

Alas, you are not 'the people'.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

Cool story but you’re wrong I’m gonna make sure it’s on the ballot in 2020

No you're not. As Massachusetts can't initiate a constitutional convention by itself. You'll either need 2/3 of the States......or a Congressional Vote with 2/3ds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither.

You will do nothing, as you're nobody, Constitutionally speaking.

Amendments occur at the level of representatives: the State Legislatures, the House and the Senate.

They not a state they can’t speak English they pay no taxes they ain’t no American motherfucker

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Remember...you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Jitss617]

By leader of the movement in Boston I’m going to mandate that this question about Puerto Rico be on the next ballot

There is no 'federal ballot' allowing the people to vote directly for federal laws.

Again, you're horribly confused. You're citing STATE initiatives.

Do you not get the difference between State and Federal?

Yes and each state can vote on the question TO CHANGE FEDERAL LAW. Like it’s been done before..

No, they can't. The people have no direct say in the creation of federal laws.

What you're talking about is an amendment to the US constitution. It and it doesn't require any direct participation from the people either. Its all about the State Legislatures and what they will *allow*.

Your state might ALLOW you to vote on an amendment. But they don't have to. There's no constitutional requirement that they do. And even then, you're not voting to change federal law. You're voting in a STATE initiative that the State legislature has chosen to determine if the your State legislature will back an amendment.

There are layers of representative democracy between you and any change at the federal level.

WE THE PEOPLE,, not we the Bureaucrats

Alas, you are not 'the people'.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

Cool story but you’re wrong I’m gonna make sure it’s on the ballot in 2020

No you're not. As Massachusetts can't initiate a constitutional convention by itself. You'll either need 2/3 of the States......or a Congressional Vote with 2/3ds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither.

You will do nothing, as you're nobody.

They not a state they can’t speak English they pay no taxes they ain’t no American motherfucker

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Remember...you don't know what you're talking about.

Hey cool story.. but they ain’t American like me.. sorry

 

[Skylar]

Your own source says over and over that Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

Maybe you wanna read what you're linking to?

In 1997...

The Puerto Rico Supreme Court decision affirmed that persons born in Puerto Rico and persons subject to their jurisdiction are citizens of Puerto Rico under the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico Constitution.

Puerto Ricans ARE Puerto Rican citizens. And US citizens.

Just like a citizen of Texas is a citizen of the state in which they recede AND a US citizen.

Do you not get how this works?

If they were US citizens, they could vote in our elections. How many times do i need to make this onvious point?

Meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Voting for president is not a prerequisite for ANY US citizenship. To say nothing of the US citizensip of Puerto Ricans. Debunking your made up 'requirements'. Leaving us with the actual law and the actual requirements:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

The only thing necessary to be a US citizen for someone in Puerto Rico....is to be born in Puerto Rico.

Try again. This time without your made up pseudo-legal 'requirements'.

The vast majority of them dont even pay federal taxes. Those that do, pay a fraction of what we pay.

Irrelevant. Payment of federal income taxes isn't a requirement for US citizenship. For Puerto Ricans, being born in Puerto Rico is;

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

See how this works? Your imagination is irrelevant. The law isn't.

 

[Skylar]

There is no 'federal ballot' allowing the people to vote directly for federal laws.

Again, you're horribly confused. You're citing STATE initiatives.

Do you not get the difference between State and Federal?

Yes and each state can vote on the question TO CHANGE FEDERAL LAW. Like it’s been done before..

No, they can't. The people have no direct say in the creation of federal laws.

What you're talking about is an amendment to the US constitution. It and it doesn't require any direct participation from the people either. Its all about the State Legislatures and what they will *allow*.

Your state might ALLOW you to vote on an amendment. But they don't have to. There's no constitutional requirement that they do. And even then, you're not voting to change federal law. You're voting in a STATE initiative that the State legislature has chosen to determine if the your State legislature will back an amendment.

There are layers of representative democracy between you and any change at the federal level.

WE THE PEOPLE,, not we the Bureaucrats

Alas, you are not 'the people'.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

Cool story but you’re wrong I’m gonna make sure it’s on the ballot in 2020

No you're not. As Massachusetts can't initiate a constitutional convention by itself. You'll either need 2/3 of the States......or a Congressional Vote with 2/3ds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither.

You will do nothing, as you're nobody.

They not a state they can’t speak English they pay no taxes they ain’t no American motherfucker

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Remember...you don't know what you're talking about.

Hey cool story.. but they ain’t American like me.. sorry

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

 

[Jitss617]

Yes and each state can vote on the question TO CHANGE FEDERAL LAW. Like it’s been done before..

No, they can't. The people have no direct say in the creation of federal laws.

What you're talking about is an amendment to the US constitution. It and it doesn't require any direct participation from the people either. Its all about the State Legislatures and what they will *allow*.

Your state might ALLOW you to vote on an amendment. But they don't have to. There's no constitutional requirement that they do. And even then, you're not voting to change federal law. You're voting in a STATE initiative that the State legislature has chosen to determine if the your State legislature will back an amendment.

There are layers of representative democracy between you and any change at the federal level.

WE THE PEOPLE,, not we the Bureaucrats

Alas, you are not 'the people'.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

Cool story but you’re wrong I’m gonna make sure it’s on the ballot in 2020

No you're not. As Massachusetts can't initiate a constitutional convention by itself. You'll either need 2/3 of the States......or a Congressional Vote with 2/3ds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither.

You will do nothing, as you're nobody.

They not a state they can’t speak English they pay no taxes they ain’t no American motherfucker

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Remember...you don't know what you're talking about.

Hey cool story.. but they ain’t American like me.. sorry

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

Actually we changed a federal law the 21a was changed by ballot to ratify.
The same should be done for Puerto Rico .. we want the vote!

 

[Skylar]

No, they can't. The people have no direct say in the creation of federal laws.

What you're talking about is an amendment to the US constitution. It and it doesn't require any direct participation from the people either. Its all about the State Legislatures and what they will *allow*.

Your state might ALLOW you to vote on an amendment. But they don't have to. There's no constitutional requirement that they do. And even then, you're not voting to change federal law. You're voting in a STATE initiative that the State legislature has chosen to determine if the your State legislature will back an amendment.

There are layers of representative democracy between you and any change at the federal level.

Alas, you are not 'the people'.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

Cool story but you’re wrong I’m gonna make sure it’s on the ballot in 2020

No you're not. As Massachusetts can't initiate a constitutional convention by itself. You'll either need 2/3 of the States......or a Congressional Vote with 2/3ds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither.

You will do nothing, as you're nobody.

They not a state they can’t speak English they pay no taxes they ain’t no American motherfucker

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Remember...you don't know what you're talking about.

Hey cool story.. but they ain’t American like me.. sorry

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

Actually we changed a federal law the 21a was changed by ballot to ratify.
The same should be done for Puerto Rico .. we want the vote!

That wasn't a direct vote by the people to change federal law. And you don't understand how amendments work.

Amendments require 3/4s of the State Legislatures, not the people. An individual State Legislatures can ALLOW the residents of its State to vote to determine how a State Legislature will go with a particular amendment. But the people aren't any direct part of the process. The power resides with the State legislatures and its the State Legislatures' vote that determine passage or failure.

You're still dealing with representative democracy.

And you won't have any such vote in 2020....as to even initiate the process, you need 2/3s of the State legislatures or 2/3rds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither. You'll do nothing.

 

[Jitss617]

Cool story but you’re wrong I’m gonna make sure it’s on the ballot in 2020

No you're not. As Massachusetts can't initiate a constitutional convention by itself. You'll either need 2/3 of the States......or a Congressional Vote with 2/3ds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither.

You will do nothing, as you're nobody.

They not a state they can’t speak English they pay no taxes they ain’t no American motherfucker

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Remember...you don't know what you're talking about.

Hey cool story.. but they ain’t American like me.. sorry

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

Actually we changed a federal law the 21a was changed by ballot to ratify.
The same should be done for Puerto Rico .. we want the vote!

That wasn't a direct vote by the people to change federal law. And you don't understand how amendments work.

Amendments require 3/4s of the State Legislatures, not the people. An individual State Legislatures can ALLOW the residents of its State to vote to determine how a State Legislature will go with a particular amendment. But the people aren't any direct part of the process. The power resides with the State legislatures and its the State Legislatures' vote that determine passage or failure.

You're still dealing with representative democracy.

And you won't have any such vote in 2020....as to even initiate the process, you need 2/3s of the State legislatures or 2/3rds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither. You'll do nothing.

Yes we the people changed the law and will do it again.

 

[Skylar]

No you're not. As Massachusetts can't initiate a constitutional convention by itself. You'll either need 2/3 of the States......or a Congressional Vote with 2/3ds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither.

You will do nothing, as you're nobody.

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Remember...you don't know what you're talking about.

Hey cool story.. but they ain’t American like me.. sorry

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

Actually we changed a federal law the 21a was changed by ballot to ratify.
The same should be done for Puerto Rico .. we want the vote!

That wasn't a direct vote by the people to change federal law. And you don't understand how amendments work.

Amendments require 3/4s of the State Legislatures, not the people. An individual State Legislatures can ALLOW the residents of its State to vote to determine how a State Legislature will go with a particular amendment. But the people aren't any direct part of the process. The power resides with the State legislatures and its the State Legislatures' vote that determine passage or failure.

You're still dealing with representative democracy.

And you won't have any such vote in 2020....as to even initiate the process, you need 2/3s of the State legislatures or 2/3rds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither. You'll do nothing.

Yes we the people changed the law and will do it again.

Nope. The people have no direct role in the creation of federal laws OR the passage of amendments. In both, its done by the representatives of the people....Congress and the President with federal laws, and the State Legislatures or Congress and the State Legislatures for amendments.

Remember, you're genuinely clueless of how this process works.

And you'll vote for nothing regarding Puerto Rico in 2020.

 

[Jitss617]

Hey cool story.. but they ain’t American like me.. sorry

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

Actually we changed a federal law the 21a was changed by ballot to ratify.
The same should be done for Puerto Rico .. we want the vote!

That wasn't a direct vote by the people to change federal law. And you don't understand how amendments work.

Amendments require 3/4s of the State Legislatures, not the people. An individual State Legislatures can ALLOW the residents of its State to vote to determine how a State Legislature will go with a particular amendment. But the people aren't any direct part of the process. The power resides with the State legislatures and its the State Legislatures' vote that determine passage or failure.

You're still dealing with representative democracy.

And you won't have any such vote in 2020....as to even initiate the process, you need 2/3s of the State legislatures or 2/3rds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither. You'll do nothing.

Yes we the people changed the law and will do it again.

Nope. The people have no direct role in the creation of federal laws OR the passage of amendments. In both, its done by the representatives of the people....Congress and the President with federal laws, and the State Legislatures or Congress and the State Legislatures.

Remember, you're genuinely clueless of how this process works.

And you'll vote for nothing regarding Puerto Rico in 2020.

You are clueless lol Americans have no say lol you must think Hillary won in 2016 and you socialist won.. you didn’t.. it’s still we the people

 

[Skylar]

The law says otherwise:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

Puerto Ricans are US citizens.

Actually we changed a federal law the 21a was changed by ballot to ratify.
The same should be done for Puerto Rico .. we want the vote!

That wasn't a direct vote by the people to change federal law. And you don't understand how amendments work.

Amendments require 3/4s of the State Legislatures, not the people. An individual State Legislatures can ALLOW the residents of its State to vote to determine how a State Legislature will go with a particular amendment. But the people aren't any direct part of the process. The power resides with the State legislatures and its the State Legislatures' vote that determine passage or failure.

You're still dealing with representative democracy.

And you won't have any such vote in 2020....as to even initiate the process, you need 2/3s of the State legislatures or 2/3rds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither. You'll do nothing.

Yes we the people changed the law and will do it again.

Nope. The people have no direct role in the creation of federal laws OR the passage of amendments. In both, its done by the representatives of the people....Congress and the President with federal laws, and the State Legislatures or Congress and the State Legislatures.

Remember, you're genuinely clueless of how this process works.

And you'll vote for nothing regarding Puerto Rico in 2020.

You are clueless lol Americans have no say lol you must think Hillary won in 2016 and you socialist won.. you didn’t.. it’s still we the people

You're not 'the people'. You're nobody.

Which is why when the law contradicts you.....

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

The law wins.

See how that works?

 

[Jitss617]

Actually we changed a federal law the 21a was changed by ballot to ratify.
The same should be done for Puerto Rico .. we want the vote!

That wasn't a direct vote by the people to change federal law. And you don't understand how amendments work.

Amendments require 3/4s of the State Legislatures, not the people. An individual State Legislatures can ALLOW the residents of its State to vote to determine how a State Legislature will go with a particular amendment. But the people aren't any direct part of the process. The power resides with the State legislatures and its the State Legislatures' vote that determine passage or failure.

You're still dealing with representative democracy.

And you won't have any such vote in 2020....as to even initiate the process, you need 2/3s of the State legislatures or 2/3rds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither. You'll do nothing.

Yes we the people changed the law and will do it again.

Nope. The people have no direct role in the creation of federal laws OR the passage of amendments. In both, its done by the representatives of the people....Congress and the President with federal laws, and the State Legislatures or Congress and the State Legislatures.

Remember, you're genuinely clueless of how this process works.

And you'll vote for nothing regarding Puerto Rico in 2020.

You are clueless lol Americans have no say lol you must think Hillary won in 2016 and you socialist won.. you didn’t.. it’s still we the people

You're not 'the people'. You're nobody.

Which is why when the law contradicts you.....

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

The law wins.

See how that works?

Well you have nothing to worry about lol hehehe

 

[Skylar]

That wasn't a direct vote by the people to change federal law. And you don't understand how amendments work.

Amendments require 3/4s of the State Legislatures, not the people. An individual State Legislatures can ALLOW the residents of its State to vote to determine how a State Legislature will go with a particular amendment. But the people aren't any direct part of the process. The power resides with the State legislatures and its the State Legislatures' vote that determine passage or failure.

You're still dealing with representative democracy.

And you won't have any such vote in 2020....as to even initiate the process, you need 2/3s of the State legislatures or 2/3rds of both the House and the Senate.

And you have neither. You'll do nothing.

Yes we the people changed the law and will do it again.

Nope. The people have no direct role in the creation of federal laws OR the passage of amendments. In both, its done by the representatives of the people....Congress and the President with federal laws, and the State Legislatures or Congress and the State Legislatures.

Remember, you're genuinely clueless of how this process works.

And you'll vote for nothing regarding Puerto Rico in 2020.

You are clueless lol Americans have no say lol you must think Hillary won in 2016 and you socialist won.. you didn’t.. it’s still we the people

You're not 'the people'. You're nobody.

Which is why when the law contradicts you.....

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

The law wins.

See how that works?

Well you have nothing to worry about lol hehehe

From you?

Not a thing. You're simply not informed enough to be relevant.

 

[Coyote]

Puerto Ricans are Americans.

Why can’t they vote for the president ?

Because the people don't elect presidents. The electoral college does.

Every Puerto Rican is a US citizen.

Which, of course, you already know. Making your 'foreigner' bullshit not only laughably wrong. But a foolish, intentional lie.

If your argument had merit, you wouldn't need to lie to support it.

Then why don’t they pay federal income tax?

Has nothing to do with citizenship.

But...Trump supporters see Trump hating on Puerto Rico so now, suddenly, they hate her when they barely even knew she existed before.

Wrong as usual. Stop accusing people you disagree with of hating. It makes you look like a fool. My question was if the are US citizens why don’t they pay income tax? You got an answer of just more fucking stupid accusations?

Because taxation has no bearing on citizenship.

 

[Jitss617]

Yes we the people changed the law and will do it again.

Nope. The people have no direct role in the creation of federal laws OR the passage of amendments. In both, its done by the representatives of the people....Congress and the President with federal laws, and the State Legislatures or Congress and the State Legislatures.

Remember, you're genuinely clueless of how this process works.

And you'll vote for nothing regarding Puerto Rico in 2020.

You are clueless lol Americans have no say lol you must think Hillary won in 2016 and you socialist won.. you didn’t.. it’s still we the people

You're not 'the people'. You're nobody.

Which is why when the law contradicts you.....

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

The law wins.

See how that works?

Well you have nothing to worry about lol hehehe

From you?

Not a thing.

Yes yes you don’t haha

 

[Godboy]

In 1997...

The Puerto Rico Supreme Court decision affirmed that persons born in Puerto Rico and persons subject to their jurisdiction are citizens of Puerto Rico under the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico Constitution.

Puerto Ricans ARE Puerto Rican citizens. And US citizens.

Just like a citizen of Texas is a citizen of the state in which they recede AND a US citizen.

Do you not get how this works?

If they were US citizens, they could vote in our elections. How many times do i need to make this onvious point?

Meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish.

Voting for president is not a prerequisite for ANY US citizenship. To say nothing of the US citizensip of Puerto Ricans. Debunking your made up 'requirements'. Leaving us with the actual law and the actual requirements:

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

The only thing necessary to be a US citizen for someone in Puerto Rico....is to be born in Puerto Rico.

Try again. This time without your made up pseudo-legal 'requirements'.

The vast majority of them dont even pay federal taxes. Those that do, pay a fraction of what we pay.

Irrelevant. Payment of federal income taxes isn't a requirement for US citizenship. For Puerto Ricans, being born in Puerto Rico is;

§1402. Persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899
All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after April 11, 1899, and prior to January 13, 1941, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, residing on January 13, 1941, in Puerto Rico or other territory over which the United States exercises rights of sovereignty and not citizens of the United States under any other Act, are declared to be citizens of the United States as of January 13, 1941. All persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States at birth.

(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch. 1, §302, 66 Stat. 236 .)

See how this works? Your imagination is irrelevant. The law isn't.

1941? I think you need to update your information.