Manhunt On for Road Rage Shooter

Detectives also recovered the gun they believe was used to shoot 18-year-old Bianca Roberson in the head. It was found in Desper's bedroom, authorities say.

Hogan said Desper has a permit to carry the weapon.

Suspect charged in Pa. road rage killing


We will see.....since there are over 15,700,000 permit holders in the country.....and they have been shown by research to be more law abiding than the average citizen, and even more law abiding than police officers....what is your point?

15,700,000 law abiding gun permit holders...

1 guy who might have used his to commit this crime

And.....do you really think this guy, if he did it, wouldn't have had that gun if he didn't have a permit? Considering, that if he is the guy....he murdered this girl over a traffic incident.....

Really?
 
Detectives also recovered the gun they believe was used to shoot 18-year-old Bianca Roberson in the head. It was found in Desper's bedroom, authorities say.

Hogan said Desper has a permit to carry the weapon.

Suspect charged in Pa. road rage killing

Thanks, good info.

Somebody way back early in the thread raised the question of whether the firearm was legal or not. I say it's irrelevant. Whether there are tight or loose laws, and whether somebody complies with them or defies them, the personal fixation is the constant, and that's the issue here.
 


Sorry.....that is a bodus claim....anything from the Gun Violence Archive is a bordering on an out right lie....how many of these alleged incidents involved legal gun carriers? Care to link to that statistic?

They don't tell you that those shooting....are gang members shooting at each other in gang fights...we have had them here in chicago on the Eisenhower expressway......they follow each other and shoot....
 
Detectives also recovered the gun they believe was used to shoot 18-year-old Bianca Roberson in the head. It was found in Desper's bedroom, authorities say.

Hogan said Desper has a permit to carry the weapon.

Suspect charged in Pa. road rage killing


We will see.....since there are over 15,700,000 permit holders in the country.....and they have been shown by research to be more law abiding than the average citizen, and even more law abiding than police officers....what is your point?

15,700,000 law abiding gun permit holders...

1 guy who might have used his to commit this crime

And.....do you really think this guy, if he did it, wouldn't have had that gun if he didn't have a permit? Considering, that if he is the guy....he murdered this girl over a traffic incident.....

Really?

The point I see is that they have more evidence. Since they also have the body, ballistics will do the matching.

What your 15,700,000 other people are doing is entirely irrelevant here.
 


Sorry.....that is a bodus claim....anything from the Gun Violence Archive is a bordering on an out right lie....how many of these alleged incidents involved legal gun carriers? Care to link to that statistic?

They don't tell you that those shooting....are gang members shooting at each other in gang fights...we have had them here in chicago on the Eisenhower expressway......they follow each other and shoot....

Again with your juvenile deflections to "gangs" and "multiple children from different males" and "how many legal gun carriers".

Again "how many" is IRRELEVANT here. How many in this case is "one". And no, you don't get to brush it away with "yeah but he's only one so it's OK". Pissant.
 


Sorry.....that is a bodus claim....anything from the Gun Violence Archive is a bordering on an out right lie....how many of these alleged incidents involved legal gun carriers? Care to link to that statistic?

They don't tell you that those shooting....are gang members shooting at each other in gang fights...we have had them here in chicago on the Eisenhower expressway......they follow each other and shoot....

We can hope for more studies.
 

I can believe it. I've been threatened myself with a note on my windshield. I didn't even know what it was referring to but it warned that "there are people around here with guns who won't take kindly to honking your horn"

That's the very core of this issue. Self-styled fascists walking around thinking they can force the world they want, and all its behaviors, at the point of a gun. The entire sicko "might makes right" mentality.
 


Thought so....they don't even say if the shootings are by legal gun owners, or people who can legally carry guns......just as I thought.....and the road rage incident they use as an example....the police didn't even take the guy into immediate custody and later only arrested him after they realized he shot a proffessional athlete....and considering that they were both yelling at each other, the actual aggressor in the attack hasn't been identified......

But thanks for linking to an article that doesn't include that information......
 

I can believe it. I've been threatened myself with a note on my windshield. I didn't even know what it was referring to but it warned that "there are people with guns".


Yeah...don't believe it....it is taken from the Trace and the Gun Violence Archive....both are anti gun propaganda outlets....and even the story from the article doesn't point out that the shooter of the athlete wasn't even taken into custody at first....the police believed it was self defense.....

And they don't point out that of the actual road rage shootings.....they don't give any stats on wether the shooters were criminals...as they are here in Illinois...gangs shooting at each other on the expressways.....
 


Sorry.....that is a bodus claim....anything from the Gun Violence Archive is a bordering on an out right lie....how many of these alleged incidents involved legal gun carriers? Care to link to that statistic?

They don't tell you that those shooting....are gang members shooting at each other in gang fights...we have had them here in chicago on the Eisenhower expressway......they follow each other and shoot....

We can hope for more studies.


Yep.....
 
so if he ran them off the road into a tree do we have a faded red truck problem or a tree problem?

No, he shot her while she was driving. That's why she crashed.

I'm beginning to think I'm writing for an audience of Illiterati.


And if he had not had a gun, it's very likely she would have gotten away from him.

RWNJs will make up any excuse for these jerks who lose their temper and blast the life out of some innocent.


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Thought so....they don't even say if the shootings are by legal gun owners, or people who can legally carry guns......just as I thought.....and the road rage incident they use as an example....the police didn't even take the guy into immediate custody and later only arrested him after they realized he shot a proffessional athlete....and considering that they were both yelling at each other, the actual aggressor in the attack hasn't been identified......

But thanks for linking to an article that doesn't include that information......

It doesn't fucking matter whether they're carrying "legally" or not. It's all about the motivation. If a killer has teh motivation he's going to act on it, law or no law.

You gotta get over this infantile paralysis that laws are the answer to everything. They AIN'T.
 


Sorry.....that is a bodus claim....anything from the Gun Violence Archive is a bordering on an out right lie....how many of these alleged incidents involved legal gun carriers? Care to link to that statistic?

They don't tell you that those shooting....are gang members shooting at each other in gang fights...we have had them here in chicago on the Eisenhower expressway......they follow each other and shoot....

Again with your juvenile deflections to "gangs" and "multiple children from different males" and "how many legal gun carriers".

Again "how many" is IRRELEVANT here. How many in this case is "one". And no, you don't get to brush it away with "yeah but he's only one so it's OK". Pissant.


Over 15,700,000 peole who can legally carry a gun....

1 incident that we don't even know the details to....

36,161 accidental car deaths in 2015


So yeah...those numbers matter .....and yes.....gangs shoot at each other in cars......and even in Britain...where they banned guns 21 years ago........

According to the Trace, and the Gun Violence Archive...this is would be a road rage incident...



Police hunt motorbike rider after man shot in the head in south London

Police investigating the murder of a man who was shot in the head in south London have launched a manhunt for motorbike rider.

Tinodiwanashe Makwanya, 24, was sitting in the passenger seat of a Volkswagen car in Croydon when he was attacked on June 9.

Scotland Yard said a motorcyclist with a pillion passenger pulled up alongside the car and shots were fired at the vehicle.

The car driver, who also suffered minor injuries, took Mr Makwanya, who was from Croydon, to hospital but he died on arrival.
 


Sorry.....that is a bodus claim....anything from the Gun Violence Archive is a bordering on an out right lie....how many of these alleged incidents involved legal gun carriers? Care to link to that statistic?

They don't tell you that those shooting....are gang members shooting at each other in gang fights...we have had them here in chicago on the Eisenhower expressway......they follow each other and shoot....

Again with your juvenile deflections to "gangs" and "multiple children from different males" and "how many legal gun carriers".

Again "how many" is IRRELEVANT here. How many in this case is "one". And no, you don't get to brush it away with "yeah but he's only one so it's OK". Pissant.


Idiot....do you think these guys had permits for their illegal guns, since, as criminals, they can't buy, own, carry, or attempt to murder people with them....?

Chicago's gang violence catches highway drivers in crossfire


Jonathan Ortiz and other members of his rap group, No Nights Off, stepped onto the stage at Chicago's House of Blues in mid-September for a concert they hoped would propel their young, promising careers.

Less than two weeks later, the 22-year-old Ortiz, who forebodingly rapped under the stage name "John Doe," was fatally shot as he drove on an expressway in Chicago. His girlfriend Alexis Garcia also got a bullet lodged in her back.

Ortiz and Garcia were victims of the 38th shooting on Chicago-area expressways in 2016, a record-high number for a city stung by a murder rate not seen in two decades.

“It is overwhelming that this is the reality in Chicago, that you can drive on the expressway now and get shot at," said Tanue David, a family support specialist with the outreach group Chicago Survivors, who is working with the Ortiz family.

Officials say gang violence is increasingly spilling over onto Chicago's expressways, with innocent drivers sometimes caught in the crossfire, while the state police force is shrinking.

The Illinois State Police, which has jurisdiction over the expressways, blamed gang warfare for the increased highway shoot-outs in 2016 that pose "an extreme danger to the motoring public."

Ortiz was shot on Interstate 290, one of five expressways within city limits where shootings took place.
 


Thought so....they don't even say if the shootings are by legal gun owners, or people who can legally carry guns......just as I thought.....and the road rage incident they use as an example....the police didn't even take the guy into immediate custody and later only arrested him after they realized he shot a proffessional athlete....and considering that they were both yelling at each other, the actual aggressor in the attack hasn't been identified......

But thanks for linking to an article that doesn't include that information......

It doesn't fucking matter whether they're carrying "legally" or not. It's all about the motivation. If a killer has teh motivation he's going to act on it, law or no law.

You gotta get over this infantile paralysis that laws are the answer to everything. They AIN'T.


asswipe....I am the one pointing out that laws are not the answer.......we have laws for guns, commit a crime, get arrested...it is morons like 357 who think more laws on law abiding gun owners is the solution....

moron....
 

I can believe it. I've been threatened myself with a note on my windshield. I didn't even know what it was referring to but it warned that "there are people with guns".


Yeah...don't believe it....it is taken from the Trace and the Gun Violence Archive....both are anti gun propaganda outlets....and even the story from the article doesn't point out that the shooter of the athlete wasn't even taken into custody at first....the police believed it was self defense.....

And they don't point out that of the actual road rage shootings.....they don't give any stats on wether the shooters were criminals...as they are here in Illinois...gangs shooting at each other on the expressways.....

And more recently I had a klown (in another pickup truck) weave around me from the RIGHT (while I was passing another car) so suddenly I had to go into a skid at 60mph -- fortunately the brakes and tires are in good shape -- again like this case just so that he could pass somebody. (it's always a he, just as mass shooters are).

I kept him in sight from a distance for about 5 miles until we got to town and he slowed up to make a left turn, at which point I took down his license number. Then he spun around and started tailgating me. I drove him directly to the police station. He stopped and made gestures but then left. So clearly, he was under no time constraint, just being a dick.

And this was a rural highway going into a small town, not a city.

It doesn't take a study to see sharp increases in road rage. Any highway. People passing just for the sake of passing. It's absolutely a masculinity thing.
 


Thought so....they don't even say if the shootings are by legal gun owners, or people who can legally carry guns......just as I thought.....and the road rage incident they use as an example....the police didn't even take the guy into immediate custody and later only arrested him after they realized he shot a proffessional athlete....and considering that they were both yelling at each other, the actual aggressor in the attack hasn't been identified......

But thanks for linking to an article that doesn't include that information......

It doesn't fucking matter whether they're carrying "legally" or not. It's all about the motivation. If a killer has teh motivation he's going to act on it, law or no law.

You gotta get over this infantile paralysis that laws are the answer to everything. They AIN'T.


asswipe....I am the one pointing out that laws are not the answer.......we have laws for guns, commit a crime, get arrested...it is morons like 357 who think more laws on law abiding gun owners is the solution....

moron....

Bull SHIT. You're the diaper rash constantly whining about "but... but ... 15,700,000 legal gun owners! But... but... gangs! But... but .... multiple children of different males living on welfare!!......" :crybaby:

Your schtick ain't working Gummo. You just look fuckin' stupid here.
 

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