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I don't know if that is true. To believe that is to believe that everyone goes to Heaven regardless of they do or what they believe. It sounds like something that Satan would preach. Do whatever you like, it doesn't matter, you'll still go to Heaven. God commands us to obey his word. Satan rebelled against God's word and wants to rebel too.All roads lead to GOD
But they don't know better than a god.Humans are granted knowledge by God and have the onus of responsibility.
Yeah OK.God giveth, God taketh away.
All that is belongs to God.
righteous anger and wrath are 2 different things.Most are familiar with righteous anger, the anger that prompts us to take action to right a wrong. For example, once came across a group of boys stoning a dog. What was the appropriate emotion in these circumstances? Happiness? Being filled with great peace? I was filled with wrath, commanded the boys to stop--and that I had better never see them with a stone again. I took the dog with me, he needed a bath so I gave him one, petted him, and then followed him until he found his way safely home.
In the same way, when God sees injustice to the poor and those weaker, should His response be happiness and a feeling of great peace. Should he pat those who are treating other unjustly on the head or should He warn that such behavior leads to being overthrown? In Biblical times, the prophets warned people of their bad behavior, and destruction would come if no change was made. Destruction usually came in the form of being overthrown and captured by another nation.
Is it "contradictions" that are a problem, or is it misunderstanding the difference between righteous anger/wrath toward deliberate and uncaring wrong doing towards others and the murderous anger/wrath because one feels someone has personally wronged him/her?
What has God done to you that would make you think God isn't loving?Yeah OK.
righteous anger and wrath are 2 different things.
Wrath is one of the 7 deadly sins so you would thing a loving god would not indulge in wrath.
You are thinking in Modern English, a subjective language with over 170,000 words. Compare this to Hebrew, with only 33,000 words and a language of pictures. A straight translation of 'wrath' from the Hebrew to English would be 'flaring nostrils'. If you were to read the straight translation of "God's nostrils flared" would you consider that a deadly sin? Meanwhile, in English there are over thirty synonyms for 'wrath'. 'Wrath by the way' came into use as 'wroth' in about the fourth century. Meanwhile, the Hebrew of 'Nostrils flared' was used thousands of years prior.righteous anger and wrath are 2 different things.
Wrath is one of the 7 deadly sins so you would thing a loving god would not indulge in wrath.
He is agnostic. If God had done anything to him, it follows that he would believe God is.What has God done to you that would make you think God isn't loving?
My point is that the Bible is not the only way or even the best way to know God.He is agnostic. If God had done anything to him, it follows that he would believe God is.
Perhaps the better question is, How does reading reading the Bible in modern English from a Western culture perspective, warp the meaning of what was actually presented by the original authors?
God put his spirit in him and he still doesn't believe in God.If God had done anything to him, it follows that he would believe God is.
I'm using the bible, you know the very word of the Christian god, as a source not my own experiences.What has God done to you that would make you think God isn't loving?
Well since the Roman Catholic Church was around when the bible was translated and put its stamp of approval on those translations I can assume that the church believes the translation to be accurate.He is agnostic. If God had done anything to him, it follows that he would believe God is.
Perhaps the better question is, How does reading reading the Bible in modern English from a Western culture perspective, warp the meaning of what was actually presented by the original authors?
Not sure why you would use something you don't believe for anything other than criticizing it.I'm using the bible, you know the very word of the Christian god, as a source not my own experiences.
And If there is a god, and I'm not convinced there is, then at best he doesn't really give a shit about us.
That's just a bedtime story for little kids.Not sure why you would use something you don't believe for anything other than criticizing it.
I'd say he cares a lot more about you than you do him.
And yet you can't stop talking about it.That's just a bedtime story for little kids.
And I neither believe nor disbelieve.
Like I said there is one and only one thing that is needed for me to acknowledge any gods exist and as of yet I haven't seen it.
And even if that proof was given I still wouldn't worship or change the way I live at all.
Religion interests me because it has little or nothing to do with gods and everything to do with the human need to believe there is a god.And yet you can't stop talking about it.
Yes, you demonstrate your irrational obsession with CHRISTIANITY daily.Religion interests me because it has little or nothing to do with gods and everything to do with the human need to believe there is a god.
WE've covered this before
I'll talk about any religion you want. It just so happens that most people in this country are Christian so the conversation tends to gravitate to that religion. Is that really too tough for you to figure out?Yes, you demonstrate your irrational obsession with CHRISTIANITY daily.
The Hebrew the words traveled through Greek and Latin before it ever reached the English 'wrath', which in early times meant strong anger or indignation. English words and their meanings change over time. At one time 'wrath' was often used in a humorous way, as an exaggeration. But that is linguistics.Well since the Roman Catholic Church was around when the bible was translated and put its stamp of approval on those translations I can assume that the church believes the translation to be accurate.
Not pouncing just mentioning the contradiction I see in the idea of an all loving god and the teachings of the bible.The Hebrew the words traveled through Greek and Latin before it ever reached the English 'wrath', which in early times meant strong anger or indignation. English words and their meanings change over time. At one time 'wrath' was often used in a humorous way, as an exaggeration. But that is linguistics.
It seems to me in this discussion you pounce on God for being wrathful, but do not seem to care an iota about how or on what God's wrath was based. Skipping past that seems odd.
In the same critical manner?I'll talk about any religion you want. It just so happens that most people in this country are Christian so the conversation tends to gravitate to that religion. Is that really too tough for you to figure out?
Marx was right. Karl, not Groucho,Religion fascinates me, in part because there are so many common threads in all the faiths. Perhaps we are like the tale of the blind man and tbe elephant, each of us only able to discern a small portion of what is God. For some, we need an intermediary... like a prophet to show us a path. For others, it is a self-paced journey.
For commonalities...we all know the Golden Rule, and all religions seem to have some version of this. It makes sense, if we followed it, we would be a better society.
But another commonality exists that is interesting: the acquisition of forbidden knowledge.
In some, this is represented by the acquisition of fire (which in actuality was a major turning point in human development. The Greek Promethius defied Zeus and stole fire to give to man. Across the world, a continent away, Coyote, Rabbit and Crow stoke the fire.
For the Abrahamic faiths, it was Eve and the Apple...which you have to admit kind of sucks, forever blaming Woman for Man’s inability to control himself.
In all cases though...there is a punishment for loss of innocence and it usually involves a seperation from the divine even as it separates humanity from his fellow animals.
Food for thought.
