March for our lives = thoughts and prayers.

Remodeling Maidiac

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Neither accomplish anything of substance but both make people "feel good" about themselves.

Pointless banter
 
Neither accomplish anything of substance but both make people "feel good" about themselves.

Pointless banter

I more or less agree. But it is good to see people exercising their first amendment rights, so that is always a win.
 
Republicans are fearful of these kids; as they should be, they're coming for them.

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Neither accomplish anything of substance but both make people "feel good" about themselves.

Pointless banter
When these youngsters grow up to become senators or whatnot, they'll change the laws... But not to worry, you'll be dead by then.
 
Republicans are fearful of these kids; as they should be, they're coming for them.

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Yes, they are but only a couple understand it practically takes an act of God to repeal an amendment, won't happen in my lifetime and probably not for most on this board maybe a couple more laws but no repeal.
 
Neither accomplish anything of substance but both make people "feel good" about themselves...Pointless banter

The world is flat
Democracy doesn't work
No need to rebel against British rule
Germs, what nonsense
You'll never reach the moon
You can't cure polio
Replace a heart are you serious
.....

Thoughts have power. Grandpa is like all naysayers, useless and kinda stuck in negative land. "Getting old is when a narrow waist and a broad mind change places!" Mad mag

For the intelligent reader see book. Stupidity has been around a long time.

"Hirschman draws his examples from three successive waves of reactive thought that arose in response to the liberal ideas of the French Revolution and the Declaration of the Rights of Man, to democratization and the drive toward universal suffrage in the nineteenth century, and to the welfare state in our own century. In each case he identifies three principal arguments invariably used: (1) the perversity thesis, whereby any action to improve some feature of the political, social, or economic order is alleged to result in the exact opposite of what was intended; (2) the futility thesis, which predicts that attempts at social transformation will produce no effects whatever—will simply be incapable of making a dent in the status quo; (3) the jeopardy thesis, holding that the cost of the proposed reform is unacceptable because it will endanger previous hard-won accomplishments. He illustrates these propositions by citing writers across the centuries from Alexis de Tocqueville to George Stigler, Herbert Spencer to Jay Forrester, Edmund Burke to Charles Murray. Finally, in a lightning turnabout, he shows that progressives are frequently apt to employ closely related rhetorical postures, which are as biased as their reactionary counterparts. For those who aspire to the genuine dialogue that characterizes a truly democratic society, Hirschman points out that both types of rhetoric function, in effect, as contraptions designed to make debate impossible. In the process, his book makes an original contribution to democratic thought."

The Rhetoric of Reaction: Perversity, Futility, Jeopardy by Albert O. Hirschman
 
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Liberals exploiting children.
 
Neither accomplish anything of substance but both make people "feel good" about themselves.

Pointless banter
When these youngsters grow up to become senators or whatnot, they'll change the laws... But not to worry, you'll be dead by then.
Unlike both YOU and these children I understand how our constitution works and the things REQUIRED to alter it. Gun rights can not be legislated away without a constitutional amendment. Such an amendment would REQUIRE a two thirds vote in both DC as well as two thirds of the states.

THAT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME OR THEIRS.

You may tinker around the edges but your efforts WILL NOT STOP GUN CRIMES.
 
Neither accomplish anything of substance but both make people "feel good" about themselves.

Pointless banter
When these youngsters grow up to become senators or whatnot, they'll change the laws... But not to worry, you'll be dead by then.
Unlike both YOU and these children I understand how our constitution works and the things REQUIRED to alter it. Gun rights can not be legislated away without a constitutional amendment. Such an amendment would REQUIRE a two thirds vote in both DC as well as two thirds of the states.

THAT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME OR THEIRS.

You may tinker around the edges but your efforts WILL NOT STOP GUN CRIMES.
The Constitution has been altered 27 times or something like that. Not to worry though, like I said, you'll be dead by then, and probably sooner than that.
 
Neither accomplish anything of substance but both make people "feel good" about themselves.

Pointless banter
When these youngsters grow up to become senators or whatnot, they'll change the laws... But not to worry, you'll be dead by then.
Unlike both YOU and these children I understand how our constitution works and the things REQUIRED to alter it. Gun rights can not be legislated away without a constitutional amendment. Such an amendment would REQUIRE a two thirds vote in both DC as well as two thirds of the states.

THAT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME OR THEIRS.

You may tinker around the edges but your efforts WILL NOT STOP GUN CRIMES.
The Constitution has been altered 27 times or something like that. Not to worry though, like I said, you'll be dead by then, and probably sooner than that.
And what were the REQUIREMENTS for those changes? And were those changes stripping Americans of their rights?

By all means keep your head in the sand.
 
Neither accomplish anything of substance but both make people "feel good" about themselves.

Pointless banter
When these youngsters grow up to become senators or whatnot, they'll change the laws... But not to worry, you'll be dead by then.
Hence the OP’s fallacy.

The march yesterday represents good faith political participation and free expression on the part of the students seeking to address an important issue: gun crime and violence.

That’s not the case with ‘thoughts and prayers,’ which is a bad faith effort by conservatives to side-step or deflect from the issue of gun crime and violence, and not seek a solution to the problem.
 
Hitler and Mao would be proud of the libs for using kids as political pawns. Indoctrination of youth is a basic tenet of socialist ideology.
 
Neither accomplish anything of substance but both make people "feel good" about themselves.

Pointless banter
When these youngsters grow up to become senators or whatnot, they'll change the laws... But not to worry, you'll be dead by then.
Hence the OP’s fallacy.

The march yesterday represents good faith political participation and free expression on the part of the students seeking to address an important issue: gun crime and violence.

That’s not the case with ‘thoughts and prayers,’ which is a bad faith effort by conservatives to side-step or deflect from the issue of gun crime and violence, and not seek a solution to the problem.
Except those kids yesterday led with thoughts and prayers during their moment of silence.

An empty gesture doesn't have a political ideology.

NOTHING will come of yesterday's March. As soon as the next thing that triggers leftists makes the news this will be forgotten.
 

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