Both parties are about what is best for one man, not our country.

[Stryder50]

Democrats aren't "mad". They're the ones who keep patching the economy up and getting it back on track after the Republican President crashes the economy.

Demomcrats are the ones who get control of the Southern Border, and reduce illegal immigration and reduce the deficit. Republicans stop prosecuting employers and the illegal immigration rates skyrocket, and then they blame Democrats.

There is no convincing you because you've been brainwashed by right wing media. You don't fact check, can't read economic data, so it's easy to deceive you. And you WANT to vote for white supremacy.

There are far more decent Americans than there are people willing to vote against their own best interests in order to keep minorities in "their place".

A lot of projection there.
The reality is the opposite of what you've said.

 

[Stryder50]

And that's the key. This is about us, not them. It always is.

Except your "us" rarely get involved enough to see what is real, and more often than not don't even bother to vote.

One sides "Lies" are often the other side's "Truth".

 

[Invisibleflash]

Both parties are about what is best for one man qng their party, not our country.
Neither Joe Biden or Donald Trump should be the leader of our country.
Both parties have their head up their asses. We need a party who is about what is best for the USA.

Yes, concur. But it takes integrity.

No doubt a scumbag politician will come up with some excuse why destroying America is really the best path to take. America deserves what it gets...

 

[Stryder50]

Perhaps we should stop talking about cult of personality and politics, ignore the marxist indoctrinated media, and start a national conversation on marrying policy to traditional values and morals.

Not ethics. Ethics means nothing if there is no agreed upon moral value system that is accepted.

Then the discussion begins on what policy best preserves those values while permitting maximum personal freedom.

But that may be just to radical an idea in this day and age.

Just changing words to define the same issues/problems.
Both sides(extremes) with present opposite "moral value systems" that both sides can neither agree upon nor accept.

This Universe is built upon polarity and such also dominates politics.

 

[scruffy]

Democrats aren't "mad". They're the ones who keep patching the economy up and getting it back on track after the Republican President crashes the economy.

You are so entirely full of shit it's beyond pathetic.

Demomcrats are the ones who get control of the Southern Border, and reduce illegal immigration and reduce the deficit. Republicans stop prosecuting employers and the illegal immigration rates skyrocket, and then they blame Democrats.

What a load of steaming bullshit.

No one can possibly be this stupid.

But there it is.

There is no convincing you because you've been brainwashed by right wing media. You don't fact check, can't read economic data, so it's easy to deceive you. And you WANT to vote for white supremacy.

Bla bla bla racist bla bla bla white supremacy.

There are far more decent Americans than there are people willing to vote against their own best interests in order to keep minorities in "their place".

You're about two seconds away from the ignore list.

 

[scruffy]

Leaders in both parties value loyalty over truth.

That's because they're both gigantic money laundering machines.

It's all about the money for these assholes.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Rejected. No.

You've been a shill for Democrats/Obama/Biden since I've been here. There's no trying to win us over or conscript us into your own madness.

Your game.

Your rules.

You hate it.

That's not our problem.

I am not trying to win you over, for sure. I am a registered Republican., but independent now.I vote for who is best for the country. Neither party is giving a decent choice.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Trump would have had a tougher Primary if not for the J6 Committee. Awful stunt by the Neo-Cons which really rekindled his resurgence.

Then Biden helped Trump a great deal. Biden wouldn't have had much to worry about if not for an open border and the I.R.A, in particular. Both disasterous in my opinion.

At this point it is simply politics as usual, of course they support their nominees. The one major benefit Trump and America has is that Trumps V.P will be a solid choice because he has many good options. Furthermore I trust Trumps criteria for selecting his administration other than looking for a particular chromosome or skin pigmentation. This has to bring some hope to Americans if they head in his direction. Canadians aren't much better in all fairness, we are far worse in some respects.

I find Americans are too influenced by media, too lazy and lacking curiousity. They certainly don't understand the world enough, nor the policies, domestic or otherwise. In particular policies which may decide the long term sustainability of the U.S to remain a global super power.

The stakes are quite high. These are your choices.

You are not about our country. You are not, even, about the Republican party. You are all about Donald Trump. SICK

 

[ElmerMudd]

So now since you see the dems are not your savior you want to reject both parties?.... wake up man...

I DON'T MAKE MY CHOICE BASED ON PARTY. I MAKE MY CHOICE ABOUT THE PERSON RUNNING.

 

[ElmerMudd]

~~~~~~
Contrary to your statement, Trump was best for our country in 2017 to 2020, whereas Joe Biden was foisted upon America by a rigged election through cheating, chicanary, lies and outright theft.
You and your "Progressive" Leftist friends have helped cause the problems Americans have faced these last three and a half years. All perpetrated by the so-called Democrat Party.

TRUMP IS GOOD FOR YOU BUT NOT THE COUNTRY.

 

[ElmerMudd]

It's people like you who have their heads up their ass.
Clearly you have no clue what the parties are or the purposes they serve.

It is the difference in opinion of "what is best for the USA" that results in the two main parties we do have, and a handful of small "third" parties since each side, and those in between, has different=opposing goals.

One side wants to get more government involved in everything and move towards more socialism.
The other side wants to see smaller government and more free enterprise.

Now you come along thinking we should only have ONE party that "is about what is best for the USA".
Do you know and understand history of the past century (at least) to see the recipe for tyranny you advocate ???

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You do not have the ability for critical thinking. Your mind cannot go beyond a binary comparison.
If you think all Democrats and all Republicans are the same, YOU HAVE YPOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS.

 

[ElmerMudd]

STFU. You’re a leftwing twat having a mental breakdown because your Dear Leader was shown for what he is in front of the world, a lost old man who has no idea what is going on.

The Uniparty that has run Washington for the last 50 years is broken. America is tried of these globalists, neocons, warmongers, and corrupt pieces of shit. Time to Make America Great Again by kicking them all to the curb and putting America First!

Don't you believe in the 1st ammendment.
You are too angry for me to deal with. Do yourself a favor and settle down.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Wrong! It's not our fault your man Joe is a feeble washed up mush brain. We are 100% in love with Trump's policies and vision for the country, and his willingness to take on the nasty Democrats and beat them at their own gutter politics if that's what it takes. Trump is not a doormat like George Bush was, letting Dems savage him. Trump hits back as good as he gets and that's what pisses off the Democrats.

There's a poster on this forum who is fond of saying, "your rules, you will hate it" or something to that effect. Dems are getting a dose of their own medicine and they hate it.

Donald Trump talks about himseld 10 times more than our country.
He spends more time talking about he is getting screwed. He plays the victim. Let's talk about the country more.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You haven't been about "fixing" any "system" Mac. You've used your own outraged feelings about Trump to massage your ego for years, to the point you cast all of us as being in a "cult", etc.

You and yours have been exposed as Machiavellian liars. Go twist in the wind with it, you all deserve it.

Trump supporters are a sick cult. They are not political movem,ent for our country. They have no clue about the principles of our country that Trump is threatening.

 

[BluesLegend]

Donald Trump talks about himseld 10 times more than our country.
He spends more time talking about he is getting screwed. He plays the victim. Let's talk about the country more.

And?? After the Obama on Obama love fest look who's talking.

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump supporters are a sick cult.

100% pure Dem projection, impressive!

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

It's people like you who have their heads up their ass.
Clearly you have no clue what the parties are or the purposes they serve.

Sure I do. They serve themselves.

It is the difference in opinion of "what is best for the USA" that results in the two main parties we do have, and a handful of small "third" parties since each side, and those in between, has different=opposing goals

Duh.

AGAIN
There is no shortage of those who bitch, moan, and whine; they are more than a dime a dozen.

Again, duh.

Problem is you "independents" have no solutions and no clout.

I have plenty of solutions. You fucktards refuse to listen or entertain them.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

And?? After the Obama on Obama love fest look who's talking.

And narcissists are useless and should be punched in the face 24/7.

 

[Darkwind]

Just changing words to define the same issues/problems.
Both sides(extremes) with present opposite "moral value systems" that both sides can neither agree upon nor accept.

This Universe is built upon polarity and such also dominates politics.

There are universal moral systems in the USA. They need to be clearly defined and agreed upon.

The real problem is that the system seems to be on a slider.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Get prepared to be ruled over by Trump again. It is inevitable at this point.
The monster, Jill Biden, was too selfish and high on power to treat her husband like a human being. As a result he won't step down. She will drive him like an old chevy, straight to his grave.

Not inevitable but likely.

100% pure Dem projection, impressive!

There are others, besides Democrats, who are ant-Trump
A majority of those who will vote for Trump are doing so, holding their nose.
The true MAGA minions, like you, are not a large % of the population.