Mass shooting 16+ shot 10 killed in Monterey park, Ca

[Faun]

IN the end there wasn't....but the area has had gang warfare.......so suggesting that assholes like you should wait before you go dancing in the blood of the victims......because you guys just knew it was a trump supporter who did it, you moron........was just common fucking sense....and it turned out, you were wrong......and we don't know why this asian man shot these other Asians...you dumb ass...

Retard, you immediately made up some bullshit excuse rather deal with a mass shooting.

And I said nothing about that piece of shit being a Trump supporter. WTF is wrong with you, making shit up like that?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Yeah, more than likely. They'll end up getting what they want but then want more.

They won't stop until there's an all out ban on gun ownership.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

No. Those policies aren't similar to Hitler's. Hitler only confiscated the guns of JEWISH people. Germans were pretty much left alone if they wanted to own guns.

Now...................if gun policies in America said to ban guns for a specific segment (only Republicans, or only Democrats, or only whatever segment you want to specify), THEN you might have some standing on the argument. But, gun control laws that they want to enact are for EVERYONE, not just a specific segment of our citizens.

I actually dislike it when people twist things around to try to fit them to the narrative that whatever issue being discussed is just like Nazis. They aren't, unless you twist the facts or leave out others.

And then Hitler murdered 6 million Jews.

 

[Failzero]

He committed a crime to get it. You're so close to figuring this out!

My guess ( Glock 18 or Glock with added Glock Switch ) ( CZ Skorpion built from Seni Auto Kit with Full Auto internals )

 

[0311]

Uh.................read my post again. I specifically said that Biden's campaign rejected Spencer's support because of his views. Not only did I say that, but the part of the Newsweek article that I bolded also says that.

But you were crowing about the endorsement. Biden rejected that endorsement. Nor did you address the fact the Traitor called Racist White Nationalists "Fine People".

 

[MagicMike]

Catching up on the story .. looks like the same reaction from the anti-gun nuts who rush to judgement without the detail ... claiming it was white supremacy, only to find out .. it wasn't. When the reporting fails to mention names, gender, etc .. you know it's not a regular white guy.

How about attacking the problem instead of just symptoms?

Ok.
What IS the problem in your opinion?

It seems to me the problem is that the wrong people have just as much "right" to own deadly firepower as the "right" people.
And all I am saying is that we have to find a way to separate these WRONG people from their weapons.

Well....I guess that's only part 1 of the problem.

Part 2 of course is the insecurity of legitimate and legal (the Right) gun owners that their own Second Amendment right will vanish in the process of trying to separate criminals and mentally unstable people from their guns.

People who are willing to sacrifice innocent schoolchildren for their own convenience and just say "shit happens---thoughts and prayers----it's all good long as MY rights aint violated in the process of creating a safer society."

 

[MagicMike]

They have wrecked local police forces....they continue to release the most violent and dangerous criminals.

You spelled Ronald Reagan wrong.

 

[Ralph Norton]

Then how did he get it?

Guess we need more gun laws.

 

[Next Time]

They won't stop until there's an all out ban on gun ownership.

Yeah, more than likely. It is not just about gun control, it's also about total control of the people along with the removal of the 2nd.

"When the people fear the government, that's called tyranny. When the government fear the people, that is called liberty."

 

[MagicMike]

Yeah, that could work, but crims get their guns illegally as do they for ammo.

We need to shut down the avenues by which criminals are getting illegal guns.
That's a no-brainer isn't it?
Come down HARD on illegal gun transfers.
ALL gun purchases for that matter.
Start getting them off the street in greater numbers and start making sure manufacturers are held accountable for each and every one in addition to every single owner in a detailed chain of custody database.
Sure, it will take a long time....but within a couple generations the government could easily have a detailed record of every firearm in America....where it is located and who it is assigned to.

I can hear the screaming now....
"THAT'S CRAZY! I DON'T WANT NO DAMNED GUV-MINT KNOWING HOW MANY GUNS I HAVE!"

To that I say get over yourself.
You are NOT as important as you imagine yourself to be.
As long as you are not misusing your firearms the government has got more to do than pick on you and raid your double-wide to confiscate your squirrel gun.

Now let's talk about ammo.
It should be HARD to get.
F-ing hard!
Same with reloading supplies.
Stringent registration procedures, insurance, tracking in a national database, etc.
If you are already sitting on a sizeable cache for the day some idiot like Donald Trump commands you to march on Washington and "take back yer guv-ment" then good on ya!
As long as you're not actually using it it can sit there till hell freezed over.
It is (temporarily) harmless.
The moment you load it up and attempt another coup (treason) againstthe U.S. Government though then you need to be disarmed....IF you survive.
Which you probably won't.
Either way, problem solved.

But IF you are a criminal or a "gangster" who is out there burning up their ammo....then good.
Every shot you waste is one less round you will ever have.
Because you won't be able to buy more.
There is no more black market for it and legit ammo dealers won't sell you any because according to the database you don't even legally own a weapon that requires the tound you are attempting to purchase.
So you are arrested on the spot.

Again, problem solved.

 

[Next Time]

We need to shut down the avenues by which criminals are getting illegal guns.

Yes.

That's a no-brainer isn't it?

Condescending.

Come down HARD on illegal gun transfers.
ALL gun purchases for that matter.
Start getting them off the street in greater numbers and start making sure manufacturers are held accountable for each and every one in addition to every single owner in a detailed chain of custody database.
Sure, it will take a long time....but within a couple generations the government could easily have a detailed record of every firearm in America....where it is located and who it is assigned to.

Yes.

I can hear the screaming now....
"THAT'S CRAZY! I DON'T WANT NO DAMNED GUV-MINT KNOWING HOW MANY GUNS I HAVE!"

To that I say get over yourself.
You are NOT as important as you imagine yourself to be.
As long as you are not misusing your firearms the government has got more to do than pick on you and raid your double-wide to confiscate your squirrel gun.

Now what the fuck is this all about?
Do you think I will lose my shit because of what you state what you have that I will vehemently disagree with you?
Did your alter ego kick in and decide, "fuck this guy, I can't work out whether to talk sensibly or just go fucking nuts because I don't have the vocabulary to express myself that doesn't come off as being a total dickhead."

Now let's talk about ammo.
It should be HARD to get.
F-ing hard!
Same with reloading supplies.
Stringent registration procedures, insurance, tracking in a national database, etc.
If you are already sitting on a sizeable cache for the day some idiot like Donald Trump commands you to march on Washington and "take back yer guv-ment" then good on ya!
As long as you're not actually using it it can sit there till hell freezed over.
It is (temporarily) harmless.
The moment you load it up and attempt another coup (treason) againstthe U.S. Government though then you need to be disarmed....IF you survive.
Which you probably won't.
Either way, problem solved.

But IF you are a criminal or a "gangster" who is out there burning up their ammo....then good.
Every shot you waste is one less round you will ever have.
Because you won't be able to buy more.
There is no more black market for it and legit ammo dealers won't sell you any because according to the database you don't even legally own a weapon that requires the tound you are attempting to purchase.
So you are arrested on the spot.

Again, problem solved.

Aren't you the fucking legend? If you've got the problem solved, start by running for governor, then POTUS. It's only solved if and when it has been taken into effect, HAS IT? Fucking problem is solved. What a world of rainbows, unicorns and lollipops do you live in.

 

[Flash]

We need to shut down the avenues by which criminals are getting illegal guns.
That's a no-brainer isn't it?
Come down HARD on illegal gun transfers.
ALL gun purchases for that matter.
Start getting them off the street in greater numbers and start making sure manufacturers are held accountable for each and every one in addition to every single owner in a detailed chain of custody database.
Sure, it will take a long time....but within a couple generations the government could easily have a detailed record of every firearm in America....where it is located and who it is assigned to.

I can hear the screaming now....
"THAT'S CRAZY! I DON'T WANT NO DAMNED GUV-MINT KNOWING HOW MANY GUNS I HAVE!"

To that I say get over yourself.
You are NOT as important as you imagine yourself to be.
As long as you are not misusing your firearms the government has got more to do than pick on you and raid your double-wide to confiscate your squirrel gun.

Now let's talk about ammo.
It should be HARD to get.
F-ing hard!
Same with reloading supplies.
Stringent registration procedures, insurance, tracking in a national database, etc.
If you are already sitting on a sizeable cache for the day some idiot like Donald Trump commands you to march on Washington and "take back yer guv-ment" then good on ya!
As long as you're not actually using it it can sit there till hell freezed over.
It is (temporarily) harmless.
The moment you load it up and attempt another coup (treason) againstthe U.S. Government though then you need to be disarmed....IF you survive.
Which you probably won't.
Either way, problem solved.

But IF you are a criminal or a "gangster" who is out there burning up their ammo....then good.
Every shot you waste is one less round you will ever have.
Because you won't be able to buy more.
There is no more black market for it and legit ammo dealers won't sell you any because according to the database you don't even legally own a weapon that requires the tound you are attempting to purchase.
So you are arrested on the spot.

Again, problem solved.

The thing is, Ms Moon Bat, is that the Libtards solution for all those things will result in massive Constitutional infringements against American citizens.

Most of the gun crime in the US takes place in the Democrat controlled big city shitholes among druggies, gangs bangers and street thugs with mostly already illegal firearms.

The Democrats running the cities are usually low IQ Negroes that have no intention of ever effectively enforcing the existing laws. The Democrat prosecutors allow convicted felons to roam the streets and in many cases don't even make them them pay bail when arrested.

Yesterday my wife and I heard about the Fox news reporter that was beat up on the subway in New York. Beaten very badly by Black street thugs. The police apprehended the thugs but just let them go. We were commenting on how unsafe it would be to live in New York nowadays with the massive crime. We remembered the times when we visited the city and it was safe. Back when Giuliani was Mayor and got tough on crime.

As long as we have dumbass stupid Democrats running the areas where we have massive gun crimes and the crimes will continue. That is what is broke. Fix that first.

 

[Flash]

They won't stop until there's an all out ban on gun ownership.

That is the objective. It has nothing to do with community safety.

 

[MagicMike]

The thing is, Ms Moon Bat, is that the Libtards solution for all those things will result in massive Constitutional infringements against American citizens.

Most of the gun crime in the US takes place in the Democrat controlled big city shitholes among druggies, gangs bangers and street thugs with mostly already illegal firearms.

The Democrats running the cities are usually low IQ Negroes that have no intention of ever effectively enforcing the existing laws. The Democrat prosecutors allow convicted felons to roam the streets and in many cases don't even make them them pay bail when arrested.

Yesterday my wife and I heard about the Fox news reporter that was beat up on the subway in New York. Beaten very badly by Black street thugs. The police apprehended the thugs but just let them go. We were commenting on how unsafe it would be to live in New York nowadays with the massive crime. We remembered the times when we visited the city and it was safe. Back when Giuliani was Mayor and got tough on crime.

As long as we have dumbass stupid Democrats running the areas where we have massive gun crimes and the crimes will continue. That is what is broke. Fix that first.

All I hear here is "we're just dumb-fuck helpless Americans. We can't do nuthin' about nuthin'!"

Quit contributing to the static and being part of the problem.

 

[MagicMike]

Yes.

Condescending.

Yes.

Now what the fuck is this all about?
Do you think I will lose my shit because of what you state what you have that I will vehemently disagree with you?
Did your alter ego kick in and decide, "fuck this guy, I can't work out whether to talk sensibly or just go fucking nuts because I don't have the vocabulary to express myself that doesn't come off as being a total dickhead."

Aren't you the fucking legend? If you've got the problem solved, start by running for governor, then POTUS. It's only solved if and when it has been taken into effect, HAS IT? Fucking problem is solved. What a world of rainbows, unicorns and lollipops do you live in.

Aw....bless yer little heart.
You poor, triggered thing you.

 

[M14 Shooter]

ALL gun purchases for that matter.
Start getting them off the street in greater numbers and start making sure manufacturers are held accountable for each and every one in addition to every single owner in a detailed chain of custody database.
Now let's talk about ammo.
It should be HARD to get.
F-ing hard!
Same with reloading supplies.
Stringent registration procedures, insurance, tracking in a national database, etc.

"No."
- US Constitution
The enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.

 

[Next Time]

Aw....bless yer little heart.
You poor, triggered thing you.

So you've made yourself known, forum antagonist fucktard.

 

[MagicMike]

"No."
- US Constitution

The enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.

Not really.
The U.S. Constitution was intended to be a dynamic document that can be changed (amended) to suit the times.
This is built INTO the document.

Maybe it is time for a change.

Because Jefferson NEVER intended the gun violence insanity that is our "norm" in 2023.

 

[MagicMike]

So you've made yourself known, forum antagonist fucktard.

"Fucktard"
Lmfao!

What are you, 12 years old?

 

[BS Filter]

We need to shut down the avenues by which criminals are getting illegal guns.
That's a no-brainer isn't it?
Come down HARD on illegal gun transfers.
ALL gun purchases for that matter.
Start getting them off the street in greater numbers and start making sure manufacturers are held accountable for each and every one in addition to every single owner in a detailed chain of custody database.
Sure, it will take a long time....but within a couple generations the government could easily have a detailed record of every firearm in America....where it is located and who it is assigned to.

I can hear the screaming now....
"THAT'S CRAZY! I DON'T WANT NO DAMNED GUV-MINT KNOWING HOW MANY GUNS I HAVE!"

To that I say get over yourself.
You are NOT as important as you imagine yourself to be.
As long as you are not misusing your firearms the government has got more to do than pick on you and raid your double-wide to confiscate your squirrel gun.

Now let's talk about ammo.
It should be HARD to get.
F-ing hard!
Same with reloading supplies.
Stringent registration procedures, insurance, tracking in a national database, etc.
If you are already sitting on a sizeable cache for the day some idiot like Donald Trump commands you to march on Washington and "take back yer guv-ment" then good on ya!
As long as you're not actually using it it can sit there till hell freezed over.
It is (temporarily) harmless.
The moment you load it up and attempt another coup (treason) againstthe U.S. Government though then you need to be disarmed....IF you survive.
Which you probably won't.
Either way, problem solved.

But IF you are a criminal or a "gangster" who is out there burning up their ammo....then good.
Every shot you waste is one less round you will ever have.
Because you won't be able to buy more.
There is no more black market for it and legit ammo dealers won't sell you any because according to the database you don't even legally own a weapon that requires the tound you are attempting to purchase.
So you are arrested on the spot.

Again, problem solved.

You're the problem.