Mass shooting in France at magazine that published Mohammed cartoons

[Alex.]

Nonsense, the effects of terrorism have changed the way we live you stated that yourself.

stop conflating airport security with the American way of life. Jesus, you're truly acting like a simpleton

newp just using you logical and example.

Being irritated with my own government's panic and reaction does not imply what you seem to want it to

Hey I used your words as confirmation. Thanks saved me time.

actually, you did not. All you've done is take things out of context and declare yourself as some sort of winning debater. It's at best -- sad, silly, and sophomoric

I am not a winner ...I lose in the world where terrorism has changed my way of life. Your words are a perfect example.

 

[RandomVariable]

Alex.

you remind me of the people who say 'they hate us for our freedoms' or 'way of life' which is just plain silly.
many immigrate to USA for those freedoms and way of life.

Most jihadists wouldn't be jihadists if we didn't need oil and other resources, or have certain national interests that have us interfering with THEIR way of life or the way of life in their homelands.

Not taking the shithead's side, just stating obvious ugly truths. Uglier than your mythical fantasy world view, but factual and truthful

I would disagree. I believe it is true that they hate us for our freedoms and our way of life but not in the Captain America sense. More in the sense of our freedom to act in a completely sub-human manner at times. They think we are polluting the cosmic fabric of the world, loosely translated of course. In Islam that makes it their duty to eliminate us.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

stop conflating airport security with the American way of life. Jesus, you're truly acting like a simpleton

newp just using you logical and example.

Being irritated with my own government's panic and reaction does not imply what you seem to want it to

Hey I used your words as confirmation. Thanks saved me time.

actually, you did not. All you've done is take things out of context and declare yourself as some sort of winning debater. It's at best -- sad, silly, and sophomoric

I am not a winner ...I lose in the world where terrorism has changed my way of life. Your words are a perfect example.

It's okay. The world is a much safer place than you imagine. Don't worry. The adults will deal with it. Go play with yourself

 

[Roudy]

This is YET another attack of islam on western freedoms. I think we in the west need to redefine "islam" as just a thousand year old HATE group rife with extremist/cultist that needs to be treated like the evil twin of the Neo Nazis or the KKK. A religion? Of peace even? No! Enough is enough, treat "islam" like the trash it is. It isn't t even a religion, just a brainwashing cult like the BORG. Absorb or destroy...Enough! We all need to do something to stop this menace. I fear for the human race will be destroyed because of muslim narcissistic idiots that can't just accept the human race a has moved beyond their creepy god allah.

We need to go back to the basics. At one point in time, in order to become a naturalized US citizen, you would have to renounce Communism and swear an oath that you are not and never will be a member of the Communist party. Let's do the same in the West: outlaw Islam, and do not let anybody become a citizen who doesn't renounce Islam. That will automatically reduce the migration of a lot of Islamic assholes and potential terrorists into the country.

 

[Alex.]

Alex.

you remind me of the people who say 'they hate us for our freedoms' or 'way of life' which is just plain silly.
many immigrate to USA for those freedoms and way of life.

Most jihadists wouldn't be jihadists if we didn't need oil and other resources, or have certain national interests that have us interfering with THEIR way of life or the way of life in their homelands.

Not taking the shithead's side, just stating obvious ugly truths. Uglier than your mythical fantasy world view, but factual and truthful

No, hate is not the word I would use. More like indoctrination by Koran is more like it.

blaming a tool used?

Guns don't kill people, people do

No... know anything about the First Barbary War? If not read up on it I am too busy to explain it to you right now.

"In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied: It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once"
First Barbary War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I am not a winner ...

Alex.

Correct. You are a whiner

 

[Roudy]

I would rather not live in a society where we need to arm ourselves to the teeth because we can't trust those around us. What happened today is the fault of successive pro multicultural governments in France allowing Islamic immigration to happen in mass and letting this radicalism fester in said immigrant communities. Europe, not just France, needs to stem the tide and stop this immigration. If they didn't allow immigration in the first place, this wouldn't have happened.

And you think we aren't a multi cultural society with millions of Muslims?

Been to Dearborn recently?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Alex.

you remind me of the people who say 'they hate us for our freedoms' or 'way of life' which is just plain silly.
many immigrate to USA for those freedoms and way of life.

Most jihadists wouldn't be jihadists if we didn't need oil and other resources, or have certain national interests that have us interfering with THEIR way of life or the way of life in their homelands.

Not taking the shithead's side, just stating obvious ugly truths. Uglier than your mythical fantasy world view, but factual and truthful

I would disagree. I believe it is true that they hate us for our freedoms and our way of life but not in the Captain America sense. More in the sense of our freedom to act in a completely sub-human manner at times. They think we are polluting the cosmic fabric of the world, loosely translated of course. In Islam that makes it their duty to eliminate us.

That nonsense doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Why did the jihadists fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan? BEfore themm we had right and left wing terrorism all over Europe. It settled for a while and Arab world Islamists started focusing on us after Afghanistan and the Soviets.

The Arab jihadists have taken a unique brand of radical Islam and created a monster, but they had our help. We stumbled into their open arms.

You read too much into the propaganda they put out. They hate each othermore than us -- just watch what ISIL/Islamic State/Daesh has done. We are low on their list. Even Israel comes after the other Muslims

 

[Roudy]

Dalil Boubakeur, the rector of the Grand Mosque in Paris, one of France’s largest, expressed horror at the assault on Charlie Hebdo. “We are shocked and surprised that something like this could happen in the center of Paris. But where are we?” he was quoted as saying by Europe1, a radio broadcaster.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/08/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-paris-shooting.html?_r=0


“We strongly condemn these kinds of acts and we expect the authorities to take the most appropriate measures.” He added: “This is a deafening declaration of war. Times have changed, and we are now entering a new era of confrontation.”

Seen any crowds of Muslims protesting "not in our name" recently? Cause I haven't.

But draw a cartoon depicting prophet Mohammad or the let the Pope say something about Islam, and watch half of Western Europe go up in flames at the hands of Muslims.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Alex.

you remind me of the people who say 'they hate us for our freedoms' or 'way of life' which is just plain silly.
many immigrate to USA for those freedoms and way of life.

Most jihadists wouldn't be jihadists if we didn't need oil and other resources, or have certain national interests that have us interfering with THEIR way of life or the way of life in their homelands.

Not taking the shithead's side, just stating obvious ugly truths. Uglier than your mythical fantasy world view, but factual and truthful

No, hate is not the word I would use. More like indoctrination by Koran is more like it.

blaming a tool used?

Guns don't kill people, people do

No... know anything about the First Barbary War? If not read up on it I am too busy to explain it to you right now.

"In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once"
First Barbary War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Quck! What nation was the very first to diplomatically recognize the new USA? Come on -- you can do it...

reading the old nonsense of ages ago and applying it to today? You have bought into radical jihadist propaganda. Thing is, most of the Muslim world has not/

 

[Roudy]

A beautiful sight in Paris tonight as French nationalists gather to condemn the Muslim invaders of their country. Hopefully this is an awakening for them and will send the Islamists packing. German nationals are protesting too. Europe needs a good swift purging of these 3rd worlders.



Now here come the riots and looting! Oh wait, they're European white people.

Beautiful. Now is the time for every magazine, Internet website, and channel on TV across the world to publish those Mohammad cartoons as a sign of unity in the face of Islamic barbarism.

Too bad the media is controlled by leftist cowards, they don't have the balls.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I would rather not live in a society where we need to arm ourselves to the teeth because we can't trust those around us. What happened today is the fault of successive pro multicultural governments in France allowing Islamic immigration to happen in mass and letting this radicalism fester in said immigrant communities. Europe, not just France, needs to stem the tide and stop this immigration. If they didn't allow immigration in the first place, this wouldn't have happened.

And you think we aren't a multi cultural society with millions of Muslims?

Been to Dearborn recently?

How many people live there?

 

[Howey]

Fake quote.

You know what Muslims do with gays, right?

No, it isn't.

The Iran-Contra Affair . Reagan . WGBH American Experience PBS

Guess what, asswipe, that was Reagan referring to the Contras. That's the first thing mentioned in your own link. Do you morons even bother reading what you post?

So, to conclude, some leftist asshole put a quote regarding the Contras, on a background picture of Reagan and the Taliban. EPIC FAIL:

"Ronald Reagan's efforts to eradicate Communism spanned the globe, but the insurgent Contras' cause in Nicaragua was particularly dear to him. Battling the Cuban-backed Sandinistas, the Contras were, according to Reagan, "the moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers." Under the so-called Reagan Doctrine, the CIA trained and assisted this and other anti-Communist insurgencies worldwide."

Sorry. He was referring to the mujadeen.

Reagan 8216 Moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers 8230 8217 Islamiology

“In 1985, President Ronald Reagan received a group of bearded men. These bearded men I was writing about in those days in The New Yorker. They were very ferocious-looking bearded men with turbans looking like they came from another century. President Reagan received them in the White House. After receiving them he spoke to the press. He pointed towards them, I’m sure some of you will recall that moment, and said, “These are the moral equivalent of America’s founding fathers”. These were the Afghan Mujahiddin. They were at the time, guns in hand, battling the Evil Empire. They were the moral equivalent of our founding fathers!”

 

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US- Morocco Diplomatic Relationship During the American Revolution, so many American ships used to call at the port of Tangiers that the Continental Congress sought recognition from the “Emperor” of Morocco to establish good relations between the two countries.

This recognition was granted in 1777, making Morocco the first country to recognize the United States of America.

Negotiations on a formal treaty to establish ties between the two countries began in 1783.

The Moroccan-American Treaty of Friendship was signed in 1786. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, both future U.S. Presidents were the signatories for the United States. Renegotiated in 1836, the treaty is still in force, constituting the longest unbroken treaty in U.S. history. As testament to the special nature of the U.S.-Moroccan relationship, Tangier is home to the oldest U.S. diplomatic property in the world, and the only building on foreign soil that is listed in the U.S. National Register of Historic Places, the American Legation in Tangier (now a museum).


Embassy of the kingdom of morocco in the USA

 

[MikeK]

again, the West keeps sticking their dicks in the hornet's nest and then expressing absolute surprise when they get stung.

I agree.

Knowing some radical Muslims are suicidal fanatics, and having already been fire-bombed for publishing material which is offensive to radical Muslims, and having no way to defend themselves against an armed attack, these people went right ahead asking for exactly what they got.

 

[Roudy]

I would rather not live in a society where we need to arm ourselves to the teeth because we can't trust those around us. What happened today is the fault of successive pro multicultural governments in France allowing Islamic immigration to happen in mass and letting this radicalism fester in said immigrant communities. Europe, not just France, needs to stem the tide and stop this immigration. If they didn't allow immigration in the first place, this wouldn't have happened.

And you think we aren't a multi cultural society with millions of Muslims?

Been to Dearborn recently?

How many people live there?

Don't know exactly. But there's a huge population of them there. Dearborn is but one of many cities where Muslims have taken over. So much so that they've changed many of the laws to make the city "Muslim compliant". It always starts with the creeping shariah and then gets to a point where like in France, certain Muslim neighborhoods, even the police are afraid to enter.

 

[Dr Grump]

Knowing some radical Muslims are suicidal fanatics, and having already been fire-bombed for publishing material which is offensive to radical Muslims, and having no way to defend themselves against an armed attack, these people went right ahead asking for exactly what they got.

Nice sarcasm...

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I would rather not live in a society where we need to arm ourselves to the teeth because we can't trust those around us. What happened today is the fault of successive pro multicultural governments in France allowing Islamic immigration to happen in mass and letting this radicalism fester in said immigrant communities. Europe, not just France, needs to stem the tide and stop this immigration. If they didn't allow immigration in the first place, this wouldn't have happened.

And you think we aren't a multi cultural society with millions of Muslims?

Been to Dearborn recently?

How many people live there?

Dontt know exactly. But there's a huge population of them there. Dearborn is but one of many cities where Muslims have taken over. So much so that they've changed many of the laws to make the city "Muslim compliant". It always starts with the creeping shariah and then gets to a point where like in France, certain Muslim neighborhoods, even the police are afraid to enter.

Huge population in my old neighborhood in Boston. They like living near airports.

even heard a few thank and laugh about 9/11 when drunk. They embarrassed other Muslims People can take drunks and fools far too seriously. As for the shithead terrorists? Missiles up their asses. Burn their homes.
We won't give up on their oil. so we have to deal with them

 

[Roudy]

again, the West keeps sticking their dicks in the hornet's nest and then expressing absolute surprise when they get stung.

I agree.

Knowing some radical Muslims are suicidal fanatics, and having already been fire-bombed for publishing material which is offensive to radical Muslims, and having no way to defend themselves against an armed attack, these people went right ahead asking for exactly what they got.

So just because Muslims will threaten to kill you, Western societies and journalists should censor their speech and freedoms we have in a democracy? Appeasement will not get you anything with these animals. They look upon it as a further sign of weakness. They cannot be talked or negotiated with.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

again, the West keeps sticking their dicks in the hornet's nest and then expressing absolute surprise when they get stung.

I agree.

Knowing some radical Muslims are suicidal fanatics, and having already been fire-bombed for publishing material which is offensive to radical Muslims, and having no way to defend themselves against an armed attack, these people went right ahead asking for exactly what they got.

better than being cowards. old saying from Soviet days "better dead than red" JoeB131 amd MikeK

we are in their nations because of oil and strategic interests. what is your solution(s)?