McConnell opens door for Hunter Biden testimony at Trump trial...oh shit, can we say Arkancide?

[Nostra]

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Because Dumb-Ass, it is likely that much of the evidence is in Ukraine--and note that Trump asked them to work with Barr in the Attorney General's office.

Oh, I forgot, you don't trust our twice appointed Attorney General, but you do trust the Ukranian born U. S. ambassador appointed by Obama.

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No shit. You know what isn't in Ukraine? Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. If Trump wants them investigated, he has to go through our DoJ.

Guess who Trump forgot to tell about his little request for an investigation? That's right. The Attorney General. We know this because the DoJ spokesperson (who works for Barr) told us. Do you believe them now?

If Trump actually wanted an investigation, he would have gone through the AG, to request cooperation from the Ukrainian prosecutors. But he didn't do that. He had everyone working through his private lawyer, a man who doesn't have any government position. Has no legal authority. Has no accountability. And who was claiming publicly the whole time that he was operating solely on the personal interests of his client, Donald Trump. They'd admitted this has nothing to do with governance and everything to do with helping Trump.

Trump has been accused of wrongdoing and impeached. Rudy is his personal attorney, and it's up to Rudy to try and prove corruption was indeed present during the Biden occupation of Burisma, therefore giving Trump the right to ask Zelensky for the favor.

Trump was impeached well after this all went down. If Trump is using his personal attorney, then that proves he was pushing for the investigation for personal reasons.

Which makes this impeachable.

What personal reasons? Joe was not his contender in July and isn't now. Nobody knows who Trump will be facing in the general election. And no, Rudy was in Ukraine long before the Trump impeachment. And we also have a Senate trial supposedly coming up soon. If Rudy does testify, he needs whatever evidence he gathers to prove his clients innocence.

Trump is running campaign ads against Biden. If Trump doesn't consider him a campaign adversary, he's in violation of campaign finance laws.

There is no evidence that Rudy can gather in Ukraine at this time which proves Trump's innocence. That's not how cause and effect works.

If Trump doesn't consider him a campaign adversary, he's in violation of campaign finance laws.

Link to how this is a violation of campaign finance laws colfax_m

 

[occupied]

I doubt you get schiff as a witness. There almost 100% certainty he will be one of the managers the dems pick. I think this means he cant be called to testify, correct?

I have no clue if Schiff couldn't be called if he's a manager?? Why couldn't he? They have 3 or 4 other managers.
Schiff knows a lot about Ciaramella, and the various rules that he broke during the inquiry.

Just so you know, attacking the process is what obviously guilty mobsters do in an almost forlorn hope that a mistrial will be declared. They had better have a better plan than just trying to make the house democrats look bad. When this thing starts you will be astounded when Trump's defenders fail to even say anything about all that deep state bullshit they know cannot be backed up with evidence.

Funny you should mention "evidence".
Article-1 will be thrown out because there is only "hearsay" evidence. I'm sure Dershowitz can even prove that even if everything the democrats said about the phone call is true, that it is not an impeachable offense. "Abuse of power" by the president is NOT a crime, there is a legal remedy, and it's not impeachment.

Article-2 will be thrown out because the USSC took the Trump vs House subpoena for tax records. The USSC said that Trump does have the right to court, and that is NOT "obstruction of the House" which isn't even a thing. let alone impeachable.
Supreme Court ruling pulls rug out from under article of impeachment

Only fools think they know how this is going to go. The only thing that is certain is when people are under oath the bullshit generally stops.

Correct, which is why I think the informant needs to testify. He has no protection of anonymity even if he was considered a whistleblower, therefore should not be a problem.

There is every expectation that the whistleblower will be officially unmasked if not compelled to testify.

What would they ask him?

"Why did you make Trumpybear demand a publicly announced investigation into the prior corruption of the Ukraine Company that hired you, before he would release the Congressional approve aid?

"Was this a set up from that StrikieCrowd Ukrainian company or somesuchshit?"

"Did your dad put you up to this son?"

Not just Hunter Biden, but Ciaramella, Brennan, Clapper, Schiff, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, and any other defense witnesses who can testify to the deep state coup attempts against Trump from the day he announced he was running. Barr and Durham should have some idea what questions to ask which witness to unravel the sham impeachment, especially anyone involved with Operation Crossfire Hurricane. The Horowitz report can give you some idea where the damaging evidence is.
The democrats will regret insisting on witnesses. The democrat senators may miss the primaries unless Mitch allows a quick dismissal.

I doubt you get schiff as a witness. There almost 100% certainty he will be one of the managers the dems pick. I think this means he cant be called to testify, correct?

I have no clue if Schiff couldn't be called if he's a manager?? Why couldn't he? They have 3 or 4 other managers.
Schiff knows a lot about Ciaramella, and the various rules that he broke during the inquiry.

Just so you know, attacking the process is what obviously guilty mobsters do in an almost forlorn hope that a mistrial will be declared. They had better have a better plan than just trying to make the house democrats look bad. When this thing starts you will be astounded when Trump's defenders fail to even say anything about all that deep state bullshit they know cannot be backed up with evidence.

Mistrial? Who is going to declare that???

No one, I was explaining the tactic used by the sleezebag lawyers of mob bosses. In the senate trial the tactic would be used to discredit the impeachment inquiry leading to a better chance at acquittal.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There is every expectation that the whistleblower will be officially unmasked if not compelled to testify.

As he should be. The accused should be able to face his accuser. Even though this impeachment is phony as it is, it's even phonier when the sources for the impeachment are anonymous. Plus I think we as a public have a right to hear some answers to questions, like did he ever meet Schiff Face? Who did he first approach with his complaint? Who wrote the complaint for him? How active was he in the Democrat party?

There's all kinds of things that we really need to know, including who he got his information from that was listening in on the call.

 

[occupied]

There is every expectation that the whistleblower will be officially unmasked if not compelled to testify.

As he should be. The accused should be able to face his accuser. Even though this impeachment is phony as it is, it's even phonier when the sources for the impeachment are anonymous. Plus I think we as a public have a right to hear some answers to questions, like did he ever meet Schiff Face? Who did he first approach with his complaint? Who wrote the complaint for him? How active was he in the Democrat party?

There's all kinds of things that we really need to know, including who he got his information from that was listening in on the call.

There is a need to know and then there is the desire to run this person through the right wing rumor mill and possibly expose them to threats. All of the "traitor" talk concerning the whistleblower warrants the same protection a mob informant would get until trial.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There is every expectation that the whistleblower will be officially unmasked if not compelled to testify.

As he should be. The accused should be able to face his accuser. Even though this impeachment is phony as it is, it's even phonier when the sources for the impeachment are anonymous. Plus I think we as a public have a right to hear some answers to questions, like did he ever meet Schiff Face? Who did he first approach with his complaint? Who wrote the complaint for him? How active was he in the Democrat party?

There's all kinds of things that we really need to know, including who he got his information from that was listening in on the call.

There is a need to know and then there is the desire to run this person through the right wing rumor mill and possibly expose them to threats. All of the "traitor" talk concerning the whistleblower warrants the same protection a mob informant would get until trial.

And just how do you establish this so-called threat? Members of the House are more in danger than the so-called whistleblower. When you make an accusation, come forward with it. Schiff Face made the phony claim of protection only to protect himself. He doesn't want this whistleblower to be asked questions under oath about his (or her) association with Schiff Face because it's likely Schiff Face lied, and the whistleblower telling the truth would out him as a liar, who presided over this phony impeachment.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You know if I were the Democrats I would make the trade off. Witnesses for the Bidens. Have Bolton testify in exchange for Hunter Biden. Biden's testimony will blow up in the faces of the Republicans and make them look like fools. Bolton will be hostile but in the end will reveal Trump for the slimy little corrupt creature he is.

Just full of prediction...aren't you ?

When you aren't full of something else...which is most of the time.

opposed to you being full of crap - ok

You've already made us suspect you were no very bright.

Now, you've removed all doubt.

trumps ukraine conspiracy was debunked -

you being less than bright coupled with full of shit removes any doubt youre laughable at best -

I am impressed at your originality.

 

[okfine]

Trump's legal defense team= Gooliani out
Dooshwich= in

Good f'n luck Donnie

How about if they're both in???? Hmmm?

Has Dooshbag ever tried a case?
Gooli will embarrass. Don't think he has ever defended anyone.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump's legal defense team= Gooliani out
Dooshwich= in

Good f'n luck Donnie

How about if they're both in???? Hmmm?

Has Dooshbag ever tried a case?
Gooli will embarrass. Don't think he has ever defended anyone.

What do you think he did before becoming Mayor of NYC?

 

[BlindBoo]

What would they ask him?

"Why did you make Trumpybear demand a publicly announced investigation into the prior corruption of the Ukraine Company that hired you, before he would release the Congressional approve aid?

"Was this a set up from that StrikieCrowd Ukrainian company or somesuchshit?"

"Did your dad put you up to this son?"

How about...'why did you send money to latvia first instead of depositing it first?' Isn't that money laundering? That might elicit and interesting response.

I suppose that's why Old Trumpybear abused his power as chief executive as well as forced him to obstruct Congresses investigation into the illegal hold on the allocated foreign aid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What would they ask him?

"Why did you make Trumpybear demand a publicly announced investigation into the prior corruption of the Ukraine Company that hired you, before he would release the Congressional approve aid?

"Was this a set up from that StrikieCrowd Ukrainian company or somesuchshit?"

"Did your dad put you up to this son?"

How about...'why did you send money to latvia first instead of depositing it first?' Isn't that money laundering? That might elicit and interesting response.

I suppose that's why Old Trumpybear abused his power as chief executive as well as forced him to obstruct Congresses investigation into the illegal hold on the allocated foreign aid.

He didn't do either. That's why this is the phoniest impeachment in our history.

 

[BlindBoo]

What would they ask him?

"Why did you make Trumpybear demand a publicly announced investigation into the prior corruption of the Ukraine Company that hired you, before he would release the Congressional approve aid?

"Was this a set up from that StrikieCrowd Ukrainian company or somesuchshit?"

"Did your dad put you up to this son?"

How about...'why did you send money to latvia first instead of depositing it first?' Isn't that money laundering? That might elicit and interesting response.

I suppose that's why Old Trumpybear abused his power as chief executive as well as forced him to obstruct Congresses investigation into the illegal hold on the allocated foreign aid.

He didn't do either. That's why this is the phoniest impeachment in our history.

Of course he was intent on shaking down the Ukraine President as sure as Clinton lied about getting blown. Trumpublicans simply accept the type of corruption the Dirty Don represents. They support the unitary power of the Chief Executive, however I imagine that support is limited exclusively their party only......and in 2021 they will boldly reverse course.

 

[okfine]

Trump's legal defense team= Gooliani out
Dooshwich= in

Good f'n luck Donnie

How about if they're both in???? Hmmm?

Has Dooshbag ever tried a case?
Gooli will embarrass. Don't think he has ever defended anyone.

What do you think he did before becoming Mayor of NYC?

He sure as hell wasn't a defense attorney.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What would they ask him?

"Why did you make Trumpybear demand a publicly announced investigation into the prior corruption of the Ukraine Company that hired you, before he would release the Congressional approve aid?

"Was this a set up from that StrikieCrowd Ukrainian company or somesuchshit?"

"Did your dad put you up to this son?"

Biden's bragging about his money laundering and extortion is the best 2 minutes ever! It would be like have the grassy knoll shooter bragging about how he took out JFK!

This is why people go to DC and never leave and we overspend by $1 Trillion annually!

Best KAG 2020 commercial coming to a TV near you!

 

[The Original Tree]

Why would the Bidens Risk hiring hackers to hack in to Burisma to try to protect Hunter from a silly Child Support Suit?

Same reason Clinton hired Pakistani Hackers to help cover for her crimes.

What would they ask him?

"Why did you make Trumpybear demand a publicly announced investigation into the prior corruption of the Ukraine Company that hired you, before he would release the Congressional approve aid?

"Was this a set up from that StrikieCrowd Ukrainian company or somesuchshit?"

"Did your dad put you up to this son?"

 

[okfine]

Trump's legal defense team= Gooliani out
Dooshwich= in

Good f'n luck Donnie

How about if they're both in???? Hmmm?

Has Dooshbag ever tried a case?
Gooli will embarrass. Don't think he has ever defended anyone.

What do you think he did before becoming Mayor of NYC?

And you should love Dershowitz. He is a strong supporter of gun control. He has criticized the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, saying that it has "no place in modern society"
Plus, and no wonder, he defends rapists and chomos.

Go ahead and cheer on Rudi. It won't help. They want him far, far away.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump's legal defense team= Gooliani out
Dooshwich= in

Good f'n luck Donnie

How about if they're both in???? Hmmm?

Has Dooshbag ever tried a case?
Gooli will embarrass. Don't think he has ever defended anyone.

What do you think he did before becoming Mayor of NYC?

And you should love Dershowitz. He is a strong supporter of gun control. He has criticized the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, saying that it has "no place in modern society"
Plus, and no wonder, he defends rapists and chomos.

Go ahead and cheer on Rudi. It won't help. They want him far, far away.

That remains to be seen. Rudy has done a lot of work in Ukraine, and that country smells to high heaven of corruption. It may very well be that the Senate makes a deal with the House and allows them to call witnesses in exchange for witnesses the Republicans want. And then Trump will once again stop the witnesses the Democrats want, and we will just have a trial using Republican witnesses.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump's legal defense team= Gooliani out
Dooshwich= in

Good f'n luck Donnie

How about if they're both in???? Hmmm?

Has Dooshbag ever tried a case?
Gooli will embarrass. Don't think he has ever defended anyone.

What do you think he did before becoming Mayor of NYC?

He sure as hell wasn't a defense attorney.

But he was a prosecutor. Plenty of experience for the witnesses Republicans wish to call.

 

[okfine]

Trump's legal defense team= Gooliani out
Dooshwich= in

Good f'n luck Donnie

How about if they're both in???? Hmmm?

Has Dooshbag ever tried a case?
Gooli will embarrass. Don't think he has ever defended anyone.

What do you think he did before becoming Mayor of NYC?

And you should love Dershowitz. He is a strong supporter of gun control. He has criticized the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, saying that it has "no place in modern society"
Plus, and no wonder, he defends rapists and chomos.

Go ahead and cheer on Rudi. It won't help. They want him far, far away.

That remains to be seen. Rudy has done a lot of work in Ukraine, and that country smells to high heaven of corruption. It may very well be that the Senate makes a deal with the House and allows them to call witnesses in exchange for witnesses the Republicans want. And then Trump will once again stop the witnesses the Democrats want, and we will just have a trial using Republican witnesses.

Far far away, like Ukraine.

 

[okfine]

Trump's legal defense team= Gooliani out
Dooshwich= in

Good f'n luck Donnie

How about if they're both in???? Hmmm?

Has Dooshbag ever tried a case?
Gooli will embarrass. Don't think he has ever defended anyone.

What do you think he did before becoming Mayor of NYC?

He sure as hell wasn't a defense attorney.

But he was a prosecutor. Plenty of experience for the witnesses Republicans wish to call.

30 years ago.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What would they ask him?

"Why did you make Trumpybear demand a publicly announced investigation into the prior corruption of the Ukraine Company that hired you, before he would release the Congressional approve aid?

"Was this a set up from that StrikieCrowd Ukrainian company or somesuchshit?"

"Did your dad put you up to this son?"

How about...'why did you send money to latvia first instead of depositing it first?' Isn't that money laundering? That might elicit and interesting response.

I suppose that's why Old Trumpybear abused his power as chief executive as well as forced him to obstruct Congresses investigation into the illegal hold on the allocated foreign aid.

He didn't do either. That's why this is the phoniest impeachment in our history.

Of course he was intent on shaking down the Ukraine President as sure as Clinton lied about getting blown. Trumpublicans simply accept the type of corruption the Dirty Don represents. They support the unitary power of the Chief Executive, however I imagine that support is limited exclusively their party only......and in 2021 they will boldly reverse course.

Think what you want, but when DumBama refused to provide Congress with the articles they subpoenaed using executive privilege, the Republicans didn't impeach, they did it the proper way and had the courts settle the matter. Even the Supreme Court said the Democrats were in the wrong for impeaching the President on a matter that should have been forwarded to them.

Besides Joe's bragging about his quid pro quo, we have the video of Shokin in an interview stating he was indeed investigating Hunter for money laundering, and was prepared to confiscate Burisma assets. Now if that's true, then what Joe did was use a quid pro quo to protect his son.

Bottom line, Trump didn't do anything the last administration didn't do. They used a quid pro quo for personal benefit of the VP's son, and withheld evidence from the US House of Representatives.