Me: Communism has killed 94 million people...

Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.


Here you go. Learn something:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Thats exactly right. Amazing how the left defends communism which has killed tens of millions.

Who exactly has 'defended' communism on this board? Its a failed system.

Of course it is also a boogeyman of the Right- a label used to attack anyone to the left of Roy Moore.
 
Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.


Here you go. Learn something:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

LOL- I ask about the millions dying in modern Vietnam and China due to the 'inevitability' of Communism engaging in the mass killing of its citizens- and you provide an article written in 1994.

That discusses death under Stalin and Hitler and others.
 
Incredible.

On one hand, you obviously are aware that socialism is a horror of a system that seems to always lead to mass death and oppression, as demonstrated by your lying in claiming the US as an example of successful socialism.

YET, despite demonstrating that you know socialism is evil, you still support it.


You are actively and knowingly pushing for mass death and oppression.



I'm really hoping you are like 12 and might grow out of this shit.
dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.


Don't trust whoever told you such stupid shit.


How many Americans would you hope to see die in your commie scenario?
How many people are dying due to your fantastical, right wing socialism on a national basis?


Unlike YOU, I support polices based on what is beneficial to society, American society.


Very few people are dying in this nation because of policies that I support.


You are the one here, that knowingly supports policies that you know would result is horrible death and carnage.
Our Constitution says to provide for the general welfare not the general badfare.


The polices you support show that you wish ILL on the American People.


Do you wish the same for Mexico? Do you support socialism for Mexico?
 
Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.


Here you go. Learn something:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Thats exactly right. Amazing how the left defends communism which has killed tens of millions.

Who exactly has 'defended' communism on this board? Its a failed system.

Of course it is also a boogeyman of the Right- a label used to attack anyone to the left of Roy Moore.
:desk:
 
dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.


Don't trust whoever told you such stupid shit.


How many Americans would you hope to see die in your commie scenario?
How many people are dying due to your fantastical, right wing socialism on a national basis?


Unlike YOU, I support polices based on what is beneficial to society, American society.


Very few people are dying in this nation because of policies that I support.


You are the one here, that knowingly supports policies that you know would result is horrible death and carnage.
Our Constitution says to provide for the general welfare not the general badfare.


Article 1, Section 8. The points after the first paragraph are the details of what General Welfare actually means. They are related to national defense, foreign relations, treaties, immigration, secure money, post office, roads, intellectual property protection, national credit worthiness, rule of law and protection of the Constitution. They have nothing to do with wealth and income redistribution, and government micro management of civil society:

Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; — And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
The first paragraph is a separate point in and of itself, unrelated to the others.
 
dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.


Don't trust whoever told you such stupid shit.


How many Americans would you hope to see die in your commie scenario?
How many people are dying due to your fantastical, right wing socialism on a national basis?


Unlike YOU, I support polices based on what is beneficial to society, American society.


Very few people are dying in this nation because of policies that I support.


You are the one here, that knowingly supports policies that you know would result is horrible death and carnage.
Our Constitution says to provide for the general welfare not the general badfare.


Article 1, Section 8. The points after the first paragraph are the details of what General Welfare actually means. They are related to national defense, foreign relations, treaties, immigration, secure money, post office, roads, intellectual property protection, national credit worthiness, rule of law and protection of the Constitution. They have nothing to do with wealth and income redistribution, and government micro management of civil society:

Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; — And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
did you know, nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics? To borrow money on credit is wealth redistribution.
 
Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.


Here you go. Learn something:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Thats exactly right. Amazing how the left defends communism which has killed tens of millions.

Who exactly has 'defended' communism on this board? Its a failed system.

Of course it is also a boogeyman of the Right- a label used to attack anyone to the left of Roy Moore.

Oh, you poor widdle boobie. There is quite a brigade of (figuratively) Che Guevara t-shirt clad LW loons who promote totalitarian ideology on this board. Try paying attention.
 
Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!
The Democrat Party has killed 50 Million themselves through their Eugenics and Population Control Programs.

The Republican Party has killed 100 Million themselves through their war on Crime and their Eugenics.


oooooo-kay, the war on crime is one thing, BUT,


tell me about the "Republican Eugenics".

So far this thread has been about making unsubstantiated and hyperbolic claims. I was adding mine.

I just double checked- the count has gone up to 200 million dead from Republicans.
 
Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.


Here you go. Learn something:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Thats exactly right. Amazing how the left defends communism which has killed tens of millions.

Who exactly has 'defended' communism on this board? Its a failed system.

Of course it is also a boogeyman of the Right- a label used to attack anyone to the left of Roy Moore.

Oh, you poor widdle boobie. There is quite a brigade of (figuratively) Che Guevara t-shirt clad LW loons who promote totalitarian ideology on this board. Try paying attention.

Oh you poor little authoritarian snowflake. I asked who has 'defended communism' on this board. Specifically who in this thread has?

Names.

Not complicated.
 
Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!
The Democrat Party has killed 50 Million themselves through their Eugenics and Population Control Programs.

The Republican Party has killed 100 Million themselves through their war on Crime and their Eugenics.


oooooo-kay, the war on crime is one thing, BUT,


tell me about the "Republican Eugenics".

So far this thread has been about making unsubstantiated and hyperbolic claims. I was adding mine.

I just double checked- the count has gone up to 200 million dead from Republicans.


The dead from Stalin and Mao, which I assume is the bulk of the 94 number, are not unsubstantiated or hyperbolic.
 
You really are in the dark on how economic systems work. Id suggest a Eco101 for dummies to start.
I did. You are simply full of fallacy.


Obviously, it didnt. Perhaps a remedial junior high level eco class might help you.
There is no unemployment only underpayment under truer forms of Capitalism.
Nope. There is no way to get rid of frictional unemployment in any kind of capitalism, and structural unemployment will almost always be a problem as well.
only underpayment does that; with market clearing wages, persons should be able to afford, market based forms of insurance.
That doesn't solve frictional or structural unemployment. It doesn't matter what the wages are, Except under a command economy, there will always be a lag between job search and new job, and a mismatch between skills available and demanded. Insurance has nothing to do with it.
 
I did. You are simply full of fallacy.


Obviously, it didnt. Perhaps a remedial junior high level eco class might help you.
There is no unemployment only underpayment under truer forms of Capitalism.
Nope. There is no way to get rid of frictional unemployment in any kind of capitalism, and structural unemployment will almost always be a problem as well.
only underpayment does that; with market clearing wages, persons should be able to afford, market based forms of insurance.
That doesn't solve frictional or structural unemployment. It doesn't matter what the wages are, Except under a command economy, there will always be a lag between job search and new job, and a mismatch between skills available and demanded. Insurance has nothing to do with it.
A smoother economy would pay labor enough to buy private forms of unemployment insurance.
 
Obviously, it didnt. Perhaps a remedial junior high level eco class might help you.
There is no unemployment only underpayment under truer forms of Capitalism.
Nope. There is no way to get rid of frictional unemployment in any kind of capitalism, and structural unemployment will almost always be a problem as well.
only underpayment does that; with market clearing wages, persons should be able to afford, market based forms of insurance.
That doesn't solve frictional or structural unemployment. It doesn't matter what the wages are, Except under a command economy, there will always be a lag between job search and new job, and a mismatch between skills available and demanded. Insurance has nothing to do with it.
A smoother economy would pay labor enough to buy private forms of unemployment insurance.


Again, you have no clue as you vague speak. What is a smooth economy?
 
Reality: Conservative policy never works, destroys the country, wrecks the economy, unbalances the budget, and gets people killed.
You: But Communism!
Me: ::face palm::
 
Obviously, it didnt. Perhaps a remedial junior high level eco class might help you.
There is no unemployment only underpayment under truer forms of Capitalism.
Nope. There is no way to get rid of frictional unemployment in any kind of capitalism, and structural unemployment will almost always be a problem as well.
only underpayment does that; with market clearing wages, persons should be able to afford, market based forms of insurance.
That doesn't solve frictional or structural unemployment. It doesn't matter what the wages are, Except under a command economy, there will always be a lag between job search and new job, and a mismatch between skills available and demanded. Insurance has nothing to do with it.
A smoother economy would pay labor enough to buy private forms of unemployment insurance.
And? That's still unemployed. You said no unemployment.
 

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