Michael Brown had robbed a Quick Trip just before the fatal shooting

[LoneLaugher]

Yeah...........but no. There is a CLEAR difference between right and left here when it comes to posting without waiting for facts. USMB nutters do this as a matter of daily routine. Our liberals are much more likely to reserve judgement until some time has passed and some details have been confirmed.

True.

Liberals for the most part are withholding judgement on the issue until the facts are fully known and an investigation concluded.

Most conservatives, however, are seeking to demonize Brown in a reprehensible effort to ‘justify’ his killing absent all the facts and a final determination of an investigation.

The disdain most on the right have for facts and objective, documented evidence that conflict with their dogma and subjective world-view is well-established and infamous – posts by conservatives in this and other threads on the same topic are proof of that.

Nonsense.

You automatically assume innocence whereas rational folks are just trying to be realistic.

It is possible the cop shot him in the back, but we can't conclude that this early. Instead we can only base assumptions from what we know. We know he was a fugitive. We know he got into a scuffle with the arresting officer. We know that his friend lied about the cause for the arrest. If he was shot in the back, case closed. I'd still like to wait for final word on the investigation.

You are right. We assume innocence. Exactly.

 

[Asclepias]

It has everything to do with your incorrect definition.

Wasnt my definition. It was the dictionarys.

In order to be a felon you have to be convicted of a felony retard.

Not true at all.

Just like you need not be caught in a lie to be a liar.

The fact that you lied makes you a liar.

The fact that Brown committed a felony makes him a felon.

After a trial and judgement, he would be a CONVICTED felon, but he was still a felon before he was convicted if he committed a felony.

The dictionary says youre incorrect. Felon is a legal term. Its not subject to debate. You are either convicted of a felony or you are not. Your opinion doesnt matter on this.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+is+a+felon

 

[Statistikhengst]

True.

Liberals for the most part are withholding judgement on the issue until the facts are fully known and an investigation concluded.

Most conservatives, however, are seeking to demonize Brown in a reprehensible effort to ‘justify’ his killing absent all the facts and a final determination of an investigation.

The disdain most on the right have for facts and objective, documented evidence that conflict with their dogma and subjective world-view is well-established and infamous – posts by conservatives in this and other threads on the same topic are proof of that.

Nonsense.

You automatically assume innocence whereas rational folks are just trying to be realistic.

It is possible the cop shot him in the back, but we can't conclude that this early. Instead we can only base assumptions from what we know. We know he was a fugitive. We know he got into a scuffle with the arresting officer. We know that his friend lied about the cause for the arrest. If he was shot in the back, case closed. I'd still like to wait for final word on the investigation.

You are right. We assume innocence. Exactly.

Yepp. Because that is what sane, law-abiding people do.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Nonsense.

You automatically assume innocence whereas rational folks are just trying to be realistic.

It is possible the cop shot him in the back, but we can't conclude that this early. Instead we can only base assumptions from what we know. We know he was a fugitive. We know he got into a scuffle with the arresting officer. We know that his friend lied about the cause for the arrest. If he was shot in the back, case closed. I'd still like to wait for final word on the investigation.

That's what the law does: it presumes innocence until guilt is proven.

Why do you hate the law so much? Why are so many Righties suddenly so lawless?


Hmmmmm......

You assume he was killed in cold blood.

The only reason we're talking about this is because he's black and unarmed. Nothing else about the case seems to matter.

And a WHITE PERSON for justified reasons or NOT shot him. How many people are shot dead each day? How many white people have been shot by the police in the past 6 fucking months???? At least a handful.

Yet you have headlines on cnn talking about how evil the entire white race is and how black children are all innocent.

 

[Asclepias]

What fucking irritates me is that there are just so many really, really, really good cops out there - the overwhelming majority, who put their lives' in harm's way to serve and protect and then when shit like this happens, it taints policemen and policework unfairly.

That's not my experience. My wife who grew up in a predominately wealthy white neighborhood has your view point.

Clearly then she's the one with the brains in the family. I hope she doesn't let you make too many decisions on your own.

Yes she is the one with the brains. That still doesnt excuse you not being able to read.

 

[Meathead]

Wasnt my definition. It was the dictionarys.

In order to be a felon you have to be convicted of a felony retard.

Not true at all.

Just like you need not be caught in a lie to be a liar.

The fact that you lied makes you a liar.

The fact that Brown committed a felony makes him a felon.

After a trial and judgement, he would be a CONVICTED felon, but he was still a felon before he was convicted if he committed a felony.

The dictionary says youre incorrect. Felon is a legal term. Its not subject to debate. You are either convicted of a felony or you are not. Your opinion doesnt matter on this.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+is+a+felon

No:

fel·on noun \ˈfe-lən\
: a criminal who has committed a serious crime (called a felony)

Felon - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

 

[Asclepias]

That's what the law does: it presumes innocence until guilt is proven.

Why do you hate the law so much? Why are so many Righties suddenly so lawless?


Hmmmmm......

You assume he was killed in cold blood.

The only reason we're talking about this is because he's black and unarmed. Nothing else about the case seems to matter.

And a WHITE PERSON for justified reasons or NOT shot him. How many people are shot dead each day? How many white people have been shot by the police in the past 6 fucking months???? At least a handful.

Yet you have headlines on cnn talking about how evil the entire white race is and how black children are all innocent.

Were they innocent or unarmed? If so why didnt they make the news?

 

[KissMy]

So has the store clerk made any public statements yet ? Gotta believe the media is now camped out at his store. That is, unless it's one of the looted ones.

Brown's gang banger thugs burnt to the ground the Quick Trip Store that Brown & Johnson robbed. They were hoping they destroyed all the evidence & surveillance videos. They painted "Snitches Get Stitches" on the Quick Trip Store remains. There is a huge gang problem in that area.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Nonsense.

You automatically assume innocence whereas rational folks are just trying to be realistic.

It is possible the cop shot him in the back, but we can't conclude that this early. Instead we can only base assumptions from what we know. We know he was a fugitive. We know he got into a scuffle with the arresting officer. We know that his friend lied about the cause for the arrest. If he was shot in the back, case closed. I'd still like to wait for final word on the investigation.

You are right. We assume innocence. Exactly.

Yepp. Because that is what sane, law-abiding people do.

Wow, Cnn and the black community has already convicted this cop as they're destroying shit remember. ASSHOLE!

 

[Asclepias]

Not true at all.

Just like you need not be caught in a lie to be a liar.

The fact that you lied makes you a liar.

The fact that Brown committed a felony makes him a felon.

After a trial and judgement, he would be a CONVICTED felon, but he was still a felon before he was convicted if he committed a felony.

The dictionary says youre incorrect. Felon is a legal term. Its not subject to debate. You are either convicted of a felony or you are not. Your opinion doesnt matter on this.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+is+a+felon

No:

fel·on noun \ˈfe-lən\
: a criminal who has committed a serious crime (called a felony)

Felon - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

You still havent figure it out yet? How does one determine a person committed a felony? They have to be convicted.

Are all racist really this dumb?

 

[Soulless65]

Spanking your kids doesnt turn them into drug dealers. Kids need a good ass whipping when it's truly deserved. Time out is just practice for prison.
Having two parent households would go a long way in helping.

So your pro child abuse okay

Maybe if Dirt Nap Mike would have received a few ass whippings he would be alive today.
But I'd bet he had no father figure at home to deliver a proper upbringing.

I love you idiots who decry spanking as child abuse,yet have no explanation as to why our youth have turned into thugs ever since it became illegal to discipline them.

Wow just wow even with the facts I put out here and I'll post them again if people want to know more about this.

Spanking Children & Mental Health: Punishment Linked To Disorders Later In Life

Why Black People Don?t Mind Spanking Their Kids | News One

Why Some Black People Ignore the Negative Research on Spanking - Clutch Magazine

You still have no evidence other than anecdotal please when you response again have some real facts please

 

[Zmrzlina]

Since when is shoplifting robbery?

 

[Asclepias]

So has the store clerk made any public statements yet ? Gotta believe the media is now camped out at his store. That is, unless it's one of the looted ones.

Brown's gang banger thugs burnt to the ground the Quick Trip Store that Brown & Johnson robbed. They were hoping they destroyed all the evidence & surveillance videos. They painted "Snitches Get Stitches" on the Quick Trip Store remains. There is a huge gang problem in that area.

How did they get the partial video they are showing on TV?

 

[Meathead]

The dictionary says youre incorrect. Felon is a legal term. Its not subject to debate. You are either convicted of a felony or you are not. Your opinion doesnt matter on this.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+is+a+felon

No:

fel·on noun \ˈfe-lən\
: a criminal who has committed a serious crime (called a felony)

Felon - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

You still havent figure it out yet? How does one determine a person committed a felony? They have to be convicted.

Are all racist really this dumb?

Yeah, Merriam-Webster is wrong right and you'right about definitions.

Have you really dumbed down that much?

 

[ScienceRocks]

You assume he was killed in cold blood.

The only reason we're talking about this is because he's black and unarmed. Nothing else about the case seems to matter.

And a WHITE PERSON for justified reasons or NOT shot him. How many people are shot dead each day? How many white people have been shot by the police in the past 6 fucking months???? At least a handful.

Yet you have headlines on cnn talking about how evil the entire white race is and how black children are all innocent.

Were they innocent or unarmed? If so why didnt they make the news?

Fatal Shooting of New Mexico Man Sparks 'Killer Cops' Protest - NBC News

For a day or so....

I hate the way cnn is handling this Mike Brown story. They're pretty much convicting the officer before he makes it into the court room.

 

[Asclepias]

No:

fel·on noun \ˈfe-lən\
: a criminal who has committed a serious crime (called a felony)

Felon - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

You still havent figure it out yet? How does one determine a person committed a felony? They have to be convicted.

Are all racist really this dumb?

Yeah, Merriam-Webster is wrong right and you'right about definitions.

Have you really dumbed down that much?

You must have flunked your GED. You cant be called a felon unless you are convicted of committing a felony.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+is+a+felon

fel·on1
ˈfelən/Submit
noun
1.
a person who has been convicted of a felony.

http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000644

Law.com, an online legal term dictionary, offered the following definitions for "Felon" and "Felony," (accessed on June 12, 2006:
"Felon: n. a person who has been convicted of a felony, which is a crime punishable by death or a term in state or federal prison. See also felony.

 

[Missourian]

Wasnt my definition. It was the dictionarys.

In order to be a felon you have to be convicted of a felony retard.

Not true at all.

Just like you need not be caught in a lie to be a liar.

The fact that you lied makes you a liar.

The fact that Brown committed a felony makes him a felon.

After a trial and judgement, he would be a CONVICTED felon, but he was still a felon before he was convicted if he committed a felony.

The dictionary says youre incorrect. Felon is a legal term. Its not subject to debate. You are either convicted of a felony or you are not. Your opinion doesnt matter on this.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+is+a+felon

My dictionary definition states "Felon - a person who commits a felony".

It doesn't say conviction is a requirement.

Felon | Define Felon at Dictionary.com

So I went to the legal dictionary.

It says BOTH definitions are correct.

Felon An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony.

West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.


felon n. a person who has been convicted of a felony, which is a crime punishable by death or a term in state or federal prison. (See: felony)


Copyright © 1981-2005 by Gerald N. Hill and Kathleen T. Hill. All Right reserved.
​

felon legal definition of felon

 

[mudwhistle]

Nonsense.

You automatically assume innocence whereas rational folks are just trying to be realistic.

It is possible the cop shot him in the back, but we can't conclude that this early. Instead we can only base assumptions from what we know. We know he was a fugitive. We know he got into a scuffle with the arresting officer. We know that his friend lied about the cause for the arrest. If he was shot in the back, case closed. I'd still like to wait for final word on the investigation.

You are right. We assume innocence. Exactly.

Yepp. Because that is what sane, law-abiding people do.

No, that's what liberals do, unless the perp is a Republican. Then he's guilty until proven innocent, and even then he's guilty.

You begin with the assumption of innocence, but eventually you have to abandon that assumption when the preponderance of evidence to the contrary becomes overwhelming

 

[Soulless65]

So has the store clerk made any public statements yet ? Gotta believe the media is now camped out at his store. That is, unless it's one of the looted ones.

Brown's gang banger thugs burnt to the ground the Quick Trip Store that Brown & Johnson robbed. They were hoping they destroyed all the evidence & surveillance videos. They painted "Snitches Get Stitches" on the Quick Trip Store remains. There is a huge gang problem in that area.

Most of that gang problem would disappear if this country would stop the war on drugs but that would mean that the cops wouldn't be able to play with their new toys

 

[mudwhistle]

Since when is shoplifting robbery?

Usually when either the threat of violence or an assault occurred