Michael Cohen office raided by FBI

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maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?
i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.
 
Pathetic that the Left hangs on every word of a porn star yet you people were the same ones certain, sight-unseen, each and all of the women that came forward about Bill Clinton were liars.

What law(s) did Trump break? Infidelity is not against the law. Trump did not run on family values.
Well..that's true..as far as I can tell..he runs from family values. Pathetic attempt at spin and deflection noted..and laughed at.

iu

How many women have to come forward saying they had affairs with or were sexually assaulted with one of your guys before your side pays attention or at least refrains from smearing them or accusing all of them of being tools of a conspiracy? That was not a spin.....just pointing out yet another flaw with your side's line of thinking.
I don't have a side..or any 'guys'.

This is about a lot more than Stormy Daniels. I suggest you keep an open mind..and weigh the facts as they become available.

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.
It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.

Neither one of those claims are facts. In your world view, any accusation made against Trump is automatically a fact, but anyone who claims otherwise needs proof sufficient to obtain a conviction.
 
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Well..that's true..as far as I can tell..he runs from family values. Pathetic attempt at spin and deflection noted..and laughed at.

iu

How many women have to come forward saying they had affairs with or were sexually assaulted with one of your guys before your side pays attention or at least refrains from smearing them or accusing all of them of being tools of a conspiracy? That was not a spin.....just pointing out yet another flaw with your side's line of thinking.
I don't have a side..or any 'guys'.

This is about a lot more than Stormy Daniels. I suggest you keep an open mind..and weigh the facts as they become available.

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.
It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.
It's not really a fact that you can call buying their silence a campaign contribution though. . . .
It all depends on whether the public statements of Cohen and Trump are true.

If their statements are true, then the law was violated.

In fact, their public statements were probably used as probable cause to search Cohen's effects.
 
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Well..that's true..as far as I can tell..he runs from family values. Pathetic attempt at spin and deflection noted..and laughed at.

iu

How many women have to come forward saying they had affairs with or were sexually assaulted with one of your guys before your side pays attention or at least refrains from smearing them or accusing all of them of being tools of a conspiracy? That was not a spin.....just pointing out yet another flaw with your side's line of thinking.
I don't have a side..or any 'guys'.

This is about a lot more than Stormy Daniels. I suggest you keep an open mind..and weigh the facts as they become available.

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.
It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.
It's not really a fact that you can call buying their silence a campaign contribution though. . . .
why not? It was done to john edwards...he did eventually win his case though....
 
maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?
i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.
seems like they are just fishing and that's not probable cause
they are hoping to find something
 
maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?
i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.
seems like they are just fishing and that's not probable cause
they are hoping to find something
Cohen's lawyers can stop it, if there was not probable cause.... haven't seen them object....

also, the judge is not going to proceed with a case like this unless probable cause is shown for a no knock search, and for attorney client privilege....

the i's were dotted and t's were crossed, the manual instructions for these type cases were followed....you can bet your life on it!!!

no judge is going to ruin their career by not following the letter of the law on a case that involves the president.
 

That is fucking hysterical.

:lmao:

As if WND didn’t lend Corsi enough credibility, working with InfoWars will. :eusa_doh:

But my favorite part is having the right complain about the left turning the other cheek when it comes to presumption of innocence for Cohen; while in that video, you can hear rightards chant, ”lock her up,” when Corsi mentions Hillary Clinton.
 
maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?
i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.
seems like they are just fishing and that's not probable cause
they are hoping to find something
Cohen's lawyers can stop it, if there was not probable cause.... haven't seen them object....

also, the judge is not going to proceed with a case like this unless probable cause is shown for a no knock search, and for attorney client privilege....

the i's were dotted and t's were crossed, the manual instructions for these type cases were followed....you can bet your life on it!!!

no judge is going to ruin their career by not following the letter of the law on a case that involves the president.

It already happened, so how can they stop it?

Your faith in judges only shows how gullible you are. Recent events have shown that they are little more than rubber stamps for whatever prosecuters want.
 
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Well..that's true..as far as I can tell..he runs from family values. Pathetic attempt at spin and deflection noted..and laughed at.

iu

How many women have to come forward saying they had affairs with or were sexually assaulted with one of your guys before your side pays attention or at least refrains from smearing them or accusing all of them of being tools of a conspiracy? That was not a spin.....just pointing out yet another flaw with your side's line of thinking.
I don't have a side..or any 'guys'.

This is about a lot more than Stormy Daniels. I suggest you keep an open mind..and weigh the facts as they become available.

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.
It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.
It's not really a fact that you can call buying their silence a campaign contribution though. . . .
Of course it is. Their testimony could have been harmful to his campaign. Shutting them up was therefore of value to his campaign. That renders it a campaign contribution.
 
and probable cause does not mean guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.... just because there is PROBABLE CAUSE to search, does not mean they are guilty.
 
maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?
i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.
seems like they are just fishing and that's not probable cause
they are hoping to find something
Cohen's lawyers can stop it, if there was not probable cause.... haven't seen them object....

also, the judge is not going to proceed with a case like this unless probable cause is shown for a no knock search, and for attorney client privilege....

the i's were dotted and t's were crossed, the manual instructions for these type cases were followed....you can bet your life on it!!!

no judge is going to ruin their career by not following the letter of the law on a case that involves the president.
...on the other side we can say Cohen and Trump are not going to ruin their career without dotting the ''i''s/crossing the ''t''s
...if you are going to say the judges/Mueller/etc know their jobs--the law and would not ruin their careers, you can say the same for Trump/Cohen--regarding legalities--yes?
 
maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?
i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.
seems like they are just fishing and that's not probable cause
they are hoping to find something
Cohen's lawyers can stop it, if there was not probable cause.... haven't seen them object....

also, the judge is not going to proceed with a case like this unless probable cause is shown for a no knock search, and for attorney client privilege....

the i's were dotted and t's were crossed, the manual instructions for these type cases were followed....you can bet your life on it!!!

no judge is going to ruin their career by not following the letter of the law on a case that involves the president.

It already happened, so how can they stop it?

Your faith in judges only shows how gullible you are. Recent events have shown that they are little more than rubber stamps for whatever prosecuters want.
from what I understand they can object and freeze the info, until the objection is resolved in the courts.
 
Well..that's true..as far as I can tell..he runs from family values. Pathetic attempt at spin and deflection noted..and laughed at.

iu

How many women have to come forward saying they had affairs with or were sexually assaulted with one of your guys before your side pays attention or at least refrains from smearing them or accusing all of them of being tools of a conspiracy? That was not a spin.....just pointing out yet another flaw with your side's line of thinking.
I don't have a side..or any 'guys'.

This is about a lot more than Stormy Daniels. I suggest you keep an open mind..and weigh the facts as they become available.

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.
It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.

Neither one of those claims are facts. In your world view, any accusation made against Trump is automatically a fact, but anyone who claims otherwise needs proof sufficient to obtain a conviction.
No, it's a fact Trump fucked them both.

Sorry.
 
maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?
i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.
seems like they are just fishing and that's not probable cause
they are hoping to find something
Cohen's lawyers can stop it, if there was not probable cause.... haven't seen them object....

also, the judge is not going to proceed with a case like this unless probable cause is shown for a no knock search, and for attorney client privilege....

the i's were dotted and t's were crossed, the manual instructions for these type cases were followed....you can bet your life on it!!!

no judge is going to ruin their career by not following the letter of the law on a case that involves the president.
...on the other side we can say Cohen and Trump are not going to ruin their career without dotting the ''i''s/crossing the ''t''s
...if you are going to say the judges/Mueller/etc know their jobs--the law and would not ruin their careers, you can say the same for Trump/Cohen--regarding legalities--yes?
it depends if they were in a hurry or not, plus cohen and trump are KNOWN for skirting the law at every chance possible.....
 
Michael Cohen is the President's keeper of secrets, and the President's got a lot of secrets to keep hid
The reason Cohen is the keeper of secrets is because he keeps secrets you mutt!
Cohen will tell Mueller to shove his witch hunt up his ass!
Cohen will never roll on President Trump.
Cohen KNOWS President Trump will pardon him and Flynn.
 
maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?
i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.
seems like they are just fishing and that's not probable cause
they are hoping to find something
Cohen's lawyers can stop it, if there was not probable cause.... haven't seen them object....

also, the judge is not going to proceed with a case like this unless probable cause is shown for a no knock search, and for attorney client privilege....

the i's were dotted and t's were crossed, the manual instructions for these type cases were followed....you can bet your life on it!!!

no judge is going to ruin their career by not following the letter of the law on a case that involves the president.
...on the other side we can say Cohen and Trump are not going to ruin their career without dotting the ''i''s/crossing the ''t''s
...if you are going to say the judges/Mueller/etc know their jobs--the law and would not ruin their careers, you can say the same for Trump/Cohen--regarding legalities--yes?
Lawyers and their clients break the law all the time.

In fact, Mueller just jailed a lawyer.
 
How many women have to come forward saying they had affairs with or were sexually assaulted with one of your guys before your side pays attention or at least refrains from smearing them or accusing all of them of being tools of a conspiracy? That was not a spin.....just pointing out yet another flaw with your side's line of thinking.
I don't have a side..or any 'guys'.

This is about a lot more than Stormy Daniels. I suggest you keep an open mind..and weigh the facts as they become available.

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.
It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.

Neither one of those claims are facts. In your world view, any accusation made against Trump is automatically a fact, but anyone who claims otherwise needs proof sufficient to obtain a conviction.
No, it's a fact Trump fucked them both.

Sorry.
How do you know it's a fact?
 
Michael Cohen is the President's keeper of secrets, and the President's got a lot of secrets to keep hid
The reason Cohen is the keeper of secrets is because he keeps secrets you mutt!
Cohen will tell Mueller to shove his witch hunt up his ass!
Cohen will never roll on President Trump.
Cohen KNOWS President Trump will pardon him and Flynn.
If the Adulterer-in-Chief pardons the guy who covered up his misdeeds, that will splash back on him.
 

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