Michael Cohen office raided by FBI

[Auld Phart]

thread cleaned of personal attacks, off topic comments, and flat out trolling.

 

[dannyboys]

"Mr. Trump. Do you mind if I run down to my car and get my tape machine and video camera so I can later use them to blackmail you? It won't take a minute. Meanwhile there's some 'lines' on the coffee table and a bottle of tequila in your fridge".
Let's remember it was Stormy who claimed she went to Trump's room. Not Trump who went to Stormy's room.
THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

LOL.......Pocahontas....... Only Rosie ODonnell LOL..fat ugly...low energy ...Kaepernick "son of a bitch".......LOL Relax I am going to stop posting here relax

 

[Hutch Starskey]

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Well..that's true..as far as I can tell..he runs from family values. Pathetic attempt at spin and deflection noted..and laughed at.

How many women have to come forward saying they had affairs with or were sexually assaulted with one of your guys before your side pays attention or at least refrains from smearing them or accusing all of them of being tools of a conspiracy? That was not a spin.....just pointing out yet another flaw with your side's line of thinking.

I don't have a side..or any 'guys'.

This is about a lot more than Stormy Daniels. I suggest you keep an open mind..and weigh the facts as they become available.

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.

It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.

It's not really a fact that you can call buying their silence a campaign contribution though. . . .

It wasn't done to protect and benefit the campaign?

Hmm..odd timing otherwise.

 

[bodecea]

"Mr. Trump. Do you mind if I run down to my car and get my tape machine and video camera so I can later use them to blackmail you? It won't take a minute. Meanwhile there's some 'lines' on the coffee table and a bottle of tequila in your fridge".
Let's remember it was Stormy who claimed she went to Trump's room. Not Trump who went to Stormy's room.
THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!

That poor poor innocent victim....being forced to have sex with a Porn star while his wife is recovering from birth of his son.

 

[bodecea]

Stormy and her pimp/lawyer are going to end up in arbitration.
When that happens if either of them even says Trump's name in public they WILL be headed for prison.

Nope....and this is gonna be fun fun fun. Her lawyer claimed last nite that they are close to even I.D.ing the guy who threatened her......if that happens, will be fun to follow that trail.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?

i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.

seems like they are just fishing and that's not probable cause
they are hoping to find something

Cohen's lawyers can stop it, if there was not probable cause.... haven't seen them object....

also, the judge is not going to proceed with a case like this unless probable cause is shown for a no knock search, and for attorney client privilege....

the i's were dotted and t's were crossed, the manual instructions for these type cases were followed....you can bet your life on it!!!

no judge is going to ruin their career by not following the letter of the law on a case that involves the president.

It already happened, so how can they stop it?

Your faith in judges only shows how gullible you are. Recent events have shown that they are little more than rubber stamps for whatever prosecuters want.

Recent events have shown that they are little more than rubber stamps for whatever prosecuters want

Nothing has shown that at all.

Post it up.

Simply declaring it so does not make it so.

 

[bripat9643]

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How many women have to come forward saying they had affairs with or were sexually assaulted with one of your guys before your side pays attention or at least refrains from smearing them or accusing all of them of being tools of a conspiracy? That was not a spin.....just pointing out yet another flaw with your side's line of thinking.

I don't have a side..or any 'guys'.

This is about a lot more than Stormy Daniels. I suggest you keep an open mind..and weigh the facts as they become available.

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.

It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.

It's not really a fact that you can call buying their silence a campaign contribution though. . . .

It wasn't done to protect and benefit the campaign?

Hmm..odd timing otherwise.

It was done because she was shopping around her claims to media outlets. It was prompted by her actions.

 

[bripat9643]

maybe I missed it, but what--specifically --is the probable cause?

i don't think you or anyone knows, other than Cohen, his lawyer, prosecutors, and the judge who determined if there was probable cause, in order to go forward with the no knock search....

we can guess....but that's simply speculation

Cohen can reveal it to us, but prosecutors are mum.

seems like they are just fishing and that's not probable cause
they are hoping to find something

Cohen's lawyers can stop it, if there was not probable cause.... haven't seen them object....

also, the judge is not going to proceed with a case like this unless probable cause is shown for a no knock search, and for attorney client privilege....

the i's were dotted and t's were crossed, the manual instructions for these type cases were followed....you can bet your life on it!!!

no judge is going to ruin their career by not following the letter of the law on a case that involves the president.

It already happened, so how can they stop it?

Your faith in judges only shows how gullible you are. Recent events have shown that they are little more than rubber stamps for whatever prosecuters want.

Recent events have shown that they are little more than rubber stamps for whatever prosecuters want

Nothing has shown that at all.

Post it up.

Simply declaring it so does not make it so.

The fact that 99% of all FISA warrants are approved has been posted multiple times in this forum

 

[g5000]

The emails which are now in the possession of law enforcement will reveal whether the payoffs to the women Trump fucked were motivated by the election.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I don't have a side..or any 'guys'.

This is about a lot more than Stormy Daniels. I suggest you keep an open mind..and weigh the facts as they become available.

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.

It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.

Neither one of those claims are facts. In your world view, any accusation made against Trump is automatically a fact, but anyone who claims otherwise needs proof sufficient to obtain a conviction.

No, it's a fact Trump fucked them both.

Sorry.

How do you know it's a fact?

How do you know it's a fact?

Are you serious?

If he didn't, what's the purpose of NDAs and cash payments?

 

[g5000]

If a lawyer and a client get together to perpetrate a fraud, the attorney-client privilege is null and void.

The emails and texts between Cohen and Trump will tell the story.

 

[bripat9643]

What is your definition of facts? We have been so divided for so long, there is no consensus in facts..... but continue to go with what lies between your ears.

It's a fact Trump fucked Stormy Daniels. It's a fact Trump fucked Karen McDougal.

It's a fact their silence was bought in the last days of the 2016 campaign to help Trump get elected, at the very same time Trump was parading Bill Clinton's women before the cameras to divert attention away from his pussy grabbing tape.

Neither one of those claims are facts. In your world view, any accusation made against Trump is automatically a fact, but anyone who claims otherwise needs proof sufficient to obtain a conviction.

No, it's a fact Trump fucked them both.

Sorry.

How do you know it's a fact?

How do you know it's a fact?

Are you serious?

If he didn't, what's the purpose of NDAs and cash payments?

Again, you are admitting that you don't know whether it's a fact.

 

[sealybobo]

Mr. Cohen is at the center of several aspects of the special counsel’s investigation. He also acknowledged paying $130,000 to Stephanie Clifford, who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump.

The F.B.I. on Monday raided the office of President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, seizing records related to several topics including payments to a pornographic-film actress.

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen’s lawyer, who called the search “completely inappropriate and unnecessary.” The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Mueller’s investigation, but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and gave to prosecutors in New York.

“Today the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York executed a series of search warrants and seized the privileged communications between my client, Michael Cohen, and his clients,” said Stephen Ryan, his lawyer. “I have been advised by federal prosecutors that the New York action is, in part, a referral by the Office of Special Counsel, Robert Mueller.”

More: F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen - The New York Times

Apparently involves Stormy Daniels - and more.

They thought it was so funny when they raided Anthony Weiner's home. Now how do they like the FBI raiding Trump's shady lawyer's home? Did you hear Trump crying witch hunt and that attorney client privilege is dead? LOL.

 

[bripat9643]

If a lawyer and a client get together to perpetrate a fraud, the attorney-client privilege is null and void.

The emails and texts between Cohen and Trump will tell the story.,

What "fraud" did they perpetrate?

 

[g5000]

If a lawyer and a client get together to perpetrate a fraud, the attorney-client privilege is null and void.

The emails and texts between Cohen and Trump will tell the story.,

What "fraud" did they perpetrate?

The emails and texts will reveal if they perpetrated campaign electioneering fraud.

 

[bripat9643]

If a lawyer and a client get together to perpetrate a fraud, the attorney-client privilege is null and void.

The emails and texts between Cohen and Trump will tell the story.,

What "fraud" did they perpetrate?

Campaign electioneering fraud.

What's the fraud?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Stormy and her pimp/lawyer are going to end up in arbitration.
When that happens if either of them even says Trump's name in public they WILL be headed for prison.

How do when the agreement reads that PP and DD agree to settle any disputes in arbitration — but then DD, who also goes by the name, Donald Trump, never agreed to it??

That is way too complicated for them to think through.

 

[bodecea]

If a lawyer and a client get together to perpetrate a fraud, the attorney-client privilege is null and void.

The emails and texts between Cohen and Trump will tell the story.,

What "fraud" did they perpetrate?

That's what is being investigates. But....be of good cheer. If this raid is indeed unConstitutional, anything found...and anything it leads to is inadmissible in a court of law.

 

[g5000]

If a lawyer and a client get together to perpetrate a fraud, the attorney-client privilege is null and void.

The emails and texts between Cohen and Trump will tell the story.,

What "fraud" did they perpetrate?

Campaign electioneering fraud.

What's the fraud?

Campaign electioneering fraud. Read it slowly. Tell me what words you don't understand.