MIT's global warming prediction

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The most comprehensive modeling yet carried out on the likelihood of how much hotter the Earth's climate will get in this century shows that without rapid and massive action, the problem will be about twice as severe as previously estimated six years ago - and could be even worse than that.

The study uses the MIT Integrated Global Systems Model, a detailed computer simulation of global economic activity and climate processes that has been developed and refined by the Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change since the early 1990s. The new research involved 400 runs of the model with each run using slight variations in input parameters, selected so that each run has about an equal probability of being correct based on present observations and knowledge. Other research groups have estimated the probabilities of various outcomes, based on variations in the physical response of the climate system itself. But the MIT model is the only one that interactively includes detailed treatment of possible changes in human activities as well - such as the degree of economic growth, with its associated energy use, in different countries.

Study co-author Ronald Prinn, the co-director of the Joint Program and director of MIT's Center for Global Change Science, says that, regarding global warming, it is important "to base our opinions and policies on the peer-reviewed science," he says. And in the peer-reviewed literature, the MIT model, unlike any other, looks in great detail at the effects of economic activity coupled with the effects of atmospheric, oceanic and biological systems. "In that sense, our work is unique," he says.

The new projections, published this month in the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate, indicate a median probability of surface warming of 5.2 degrees Celsius by 2100, with a 90% probability range of 3.5 to 7.4 degrees. This can be compared to a median projected increase in the 2003 study of just 2.4 degrees. The difference is caused by several factors rather than any single big change. Among these are improved economic modeling and newer economic data showing less chance of low emissions than had been projected in the earlier scenarios. Other changes include accounting for the past masking of underlying warming by the cooling induced by 20th century volcanoes, and for emissions of soot, which can add to the warming effect. In addition, measurements of deep ocean temperature rises, which enable estimates of how fast heat and carbon dioxide are removed from the atmosphere and transferred to the ocean depths, imply lower transfer rates than previously estimated.

Climate change odds much worse than thought
 
The most comprehensive modeling yet carried out on the likelihood of how much hotter the Earth's climate will get in this century shows that without rapid and massive action, the problem will be about twice as severe as previously estimated six years ago - and could be even worse than that.

The study uses the MIT Integrated Global Systems Model, a detailed computer simulation of global economic activity and climate processes that has been developed and refined by the Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change since the early 1990s. The new research involved 400 runs of the model with each run using slight variations in input parameters, selected so that each run has about an equal probability of being correct based on present observations and knowledge. Other research groups have estimated the probabilities of various outcomes, based on variations in the physical response of the climate system itself. But the MIT model is the only one that interactively includes detailed treatment of possible changes in human activities as well - such as the degree of economic growth, with its associated energy use, in different countries.

Study co-author Ronald Prinn, the co-director of the Joint Program and director of MIT's Center for Global Change Science, says that, regarding global warming, it is important "to base our opinions and policies on the peer-reviewed science," he says. And in the peer-reviewed literature, the MIT model, unlike any other, looks in great detail at the effects of economic activity coupled with the effects of atmospheric, oceanic and biological systems. "In that sense, our work is unique," he says.

The new projections, published this month in the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate, indicate a median probability of surface warming of 5.2 degrees Celsius by 2100, with a 90% probability range of 3.5 to 7.4 degrees. This can be compared to a median projected increase in the 2003 study of just 2.4 degrees. The difference is caused by several factors rather than any single big change. Among these are improved economic modeling and newer economic data showing less chance of low emissions than had been projected in the earlier scenarios. Other changes include accounting for the past masking of underlying warming by the cooling induced by 20th century volcanoes, and for emissions of soot, which can add to the warming effect. In addition, measurements of deep ocean temperature rises, which enable estimates of how fast heat and carbon dioxide are removed from the atmosphere and transferred to the ocean depths, imply lower transfer rates than previously estimated.

Climate change odds much worse than thought

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Based on the pathetic state of computer climate models I am not the least bit worried. Until they can recreate what happened last week they mean nothing and their predictive abilities are laughable.
 
Based on the pathetic state of computer climate models I am not the least bit worried. Until they can recreate what happened last week they mean nothing and their predictive abilities are laughable.

Actually most of your posts are laughable.

I'll put my money on the boys at MIT over your oil company shill stuff.
 
I really feel sorry for you Frank.




Why? Frank lives his life and enjoys himself. You live in a perpetual state of fear. That's no way to live your life but feel free, you give us something to laugh about.
 
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Study the tree rings....look closely...see the Global Warming...see the Global Warming....be the Global Warming
 
Based on the pathetic state of computer climate models I am not the least bit worried. Until they can recreate what happened last week they mean nothing and their predictive abilities are laughable.

Actually most of your posts are laughable.

I'll put my money on the boys at MIT over your oil company shill stuff.





Ahhh yes the ever popular oil company shill retort. I hate to tell you junior but the oil companies are eye deep in your nonesense, you are the shill for the oil companies here buchwheat, you're just not smart enough to figure it out.
 
So MIT thinks that we WILL see 5.2c of warming in 89 fucking years. I don't understand how .2c per decade that we're seeing=5.2c for 89 years. More like 1.8c maximum. I'd put good money on NOT seeing 3c warmer then today by 2100. If I'm alive maybe even a few grand.:eusa_drool:
 
I really feel sorry for you Frank.

Still not seeing a Theory from your side, Chris.

What is it?

Frank it's been posted many times, but you continue to pretend it doesn't exist.

CO2 causes the earth to retain heat. This was proven experimentally in 1859.

We have increased atmospheric CO2 by 40% in the last 200 years.

CO2 is now at the highest level ever recorded, and the Antarctic ice core record goes back 600,000 years.

We will add another 1,000 billion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere in the next 100 years.

MIT's model shows that this will increase the earth's temperature 3-7 degrees by 2100.
 
I really feel sorry for you Frank.

Still not seeing a Theory from your side, Chris.

What is it?

Frank it's been posted many times, but you continue to pretend it doesn't exist.

CO2 causes the earth to retain heat. This was proven experimentally in 1859.

We have increased atmospheric CO2 by 40% in the last 200 years.

CO2 is now at the highest level ever recorded, and the Antarctic ice core record goes back 600,000 years.

We will add another 1,000 billion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere in the next 100 years.

MIT's model shows that this will increase the earth's temperature 3-7 degrees by 2100.

Can you express the "1,000 billion tons of CO2" as a percentage increase in CO2?
 
So MIT thinks that we WILL see 5.2c of warming in 89 fucking years. I don't understand how .2c per decade that we're seeing=5.2c for 89 years. More like 1.8c maximum. I'd put good money on NOT seeing 3c warmer then today by 2100. If I'm alive maybe even a few grand.:eusa_drool:

We have melted 40% of the North Polar ice cap.

This will continue. When the Arctic heats up it releases methane which is 20 times stronger a greenhouse gas than CO2, so that is a strong feedback effect. Likewise open water absorbs much more heat than ice. These feedback effects will cause the earth to warm even more. We are already seeing the results.
 
I really feel sorry for you Frank.

Still not seeing a Theory from your side, Chris.

What is it?

Frank it's been posted many times, but you continue to pretend it doesn't exist.

CO2 causes the earth to retain heat. This was proven experimentally in 1859.

We have increased atmospheric CO2 by 40% in the last 200 years.

CO2 is now at the highest level ever recorded, and the Antarctic ice core record goes back 600,000 years.

We will add another 1,000 billion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere in the next 100 years.

MIT's model shows that this will increase the earth's temperature 3-7 degrees by 2100.



Speaking of oil shills looky here the co author of your article Dr. Prinn once worked for a power company.


Sucker!


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Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Tokyo Electric Power Company
Tokyo Electric Power Company
Center for Global Change Science
 
Still not seeing a Theory from your side, Chris.

What is it?

Frank it's been posted many times, but you continue to pretend it doesn't exist.

CO2 causes the earth to retain heat. This was proven experimentally in 1859.

We have increased atmospheric CO2 by 40% in the last 200 years.

CO2 is now at the highest level ever recorded, and the Antarctic ice core record goes back 600,000 years.

We will add another 1,000 billion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere in the next 100 years.

MIT's model shows that this will increase the earth's temperature 3-7 degrees by 2100.

Can you express the "1,000 billion tons of CO2" as a percentage increase in CO2?

Does CO2 cause the atmosphere to retain heat, Frank?
 
So MIT thinks that we WILL see 5.2c of warming in 89 fucking years. I don't understand how .2c per decade that we're seeing=5.2c for 89 years. More like 1.8c maximum. I'd put good money on NOT seeing 3c warmer then today by 2100. If I'm alive maybe even a few grand.:eusa_drool:

We have melted 40% of the North Polar ice cap.

This will continue. When the Arctic heats up it releases methane which is 20 times stronger a greenhouse gas than CO2, so that is a strong feedback effect. Likewise open water absorbs much more heat than ice. These feedback effects will cause the earth to warm even more. We are already seeing the results.

We melted this too, Chris?

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So MIT thinks that we WILL see 5.2c of warming in 89 fucking years. I don't understand how .2c per decade that we're seeing=5.2c for 89 years. More like 1.8c maximum. I'd put good money on NOT seeing 3c warmer then today by 2100. If I'm alive maybe even a few grand.:eusa_drool:

We have melted 40% of the North Polar ice cap.

This will continue. When the Arctic heats up it releases methane which is 20 times stronger a greenhouse gas than CO2, so that is a strong feedback effect. Likewise open water absorbs much more heat than ice. These feedback effects will cause the earth to warm even more. We are already seeing the results.




Wrong again Tojo, the ice cap is rebounding from it's all time recorded (well at least since we've actually been looking at it) low in 2007. Three years from now it will be at an all time record high.
 

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