Mob rule is just another name for Maj rule

[Penelope]

So the passage of Obamacare was mob rule too right?

And the majority of people want it. Obama won the popular vote, remember?

Obamacare NEVER had a majority of Americans wanting it passed. BO had to bride D senators to get it passed, yet it did little for the American people but did enrich O’s big insurance, pharmaceutical, and hospital donors. This is what corrupt corporatists do.

You like mob rule when it fits your opinion and don’t like when it doesn’t. I don’t think you are thinking clearly.

The maj of people now say they want it. Most people did not know that Obamacare was the ACA, they just hated Obama, but they like it now. Many were Trump voters.

That does not change the fact that during it's passage, the vast majority of Americans did not want it.

Your thread here is talking about voting in a SC justice, based on majority rule. The majority of Americans did not want Ocare, when it was up for a vote in Congress. The majority did not get what they wanted. Why are you not upset about this?

You mean the ACA, how would you know, that was one thing Obama said he was going to do and who got the maj vote. Also he did it, created something that the American people grew to love, except for those rat trap states that did not expand Medicaid.

Now people have to work to get health ins, and companies no longer have to offer it , well they never did, except under the ACA.

 

[gipper]

So the passage of Obamacare was mob rule too right?

And the majority of people want it. Obama won the popular vote, remember?

Obamacare NEVER had a majority of Americans wanting it passed. BO had to bride D senators to get it passed, yet it did little for the American people but did enrich O’s big insurance, pharmaceutical, and hospital donors. This is what corrupt corporatists do.

You like mob rule when it fits your opinion and don’t like when it doesn’t. I don’t think you are thinking clearly.

The maj of people now say they want it. Most people did not know that Obamacare was the ACA, they just hated Obama, but they like it now. Many were Trump voters.

That does not change the fact that during it's passage, the vast majority of Americans did not want it.

Your thread here is talking about voting in a SC justice, based on majority rule. The majority of Americans did not want Ocare, when it was up for a vote in Congress. The majority did not get what they wanted. Why are you not upset about this?

You mean the ACA, how would you know, that was one thing Obama said he was going to do and who got the maj vote. Also he did it.

 

[Dale Smith]

and doesn't that happen in congress, and how do we vote for the congressmen? Mob rule.

How does the Supreme Court rule, by mob rule.

How is Kavanaugh going to get elected, by mob rule, even if just 1 vote. Use to be by 3/5ths but the GOP changed that, and elected Gorsuch by nuclear option.

Only for the Potus we have EC,

Then we have the faithless Electoral College votes.

PS: Clinton won the maj vote by the largest number in the history of the US and lost.

Not when you take away the votes of illegals. Not when you factor in the revelations of Project Veritas. Did you do ANY reading of the Wikileak documents at all? Those people as well as the Hildebeast are pure, unadulterated garbage. I have found that leftards have no shame and that the ends justifies the means. You have no idea how absolutely repugnant you and those of your ilk come across in forums like this .....tis a pity.

 

[easyt65]

Mob rule is just another name for Maj rule

I completely disagree. All too often we see the minority of radical liberals loudly throwing a fit and eventually getting their way, getting their interests imposed on the majority. The ACA, for example, was passed by 'Mob Rule', as the Democrats controlled a near super-majority control of Congress allowing them to impose a minority-supported liberal piece of legislation down the throats of a majority of Americans who opposed it. It certainly was not 'representative government' where the 'servants of the people' did the people's bidding.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

and doesn't that happen in congress, and how do we vote for the congressmen? Mob rule.

How does the Supreme Court rule, by mob rule.

How is Kavanaugh going to get elected, by mob rule, even if just 1 vote. Use to be by 3/5ths but the GOP changed that, and elected Gorsuch by nuclear option.

Only for the Potus we have EC,

Then we have the faithless Electoral College votes.

PS: Clinton won the maj vote by the largest number in the history of the US and lost.

All of that majority came in California. You lost. Deal with it.

 

[Pop23]

and doesn't that happen in congress, and how do we vote for the congressmen? Mob rule.

How does the Supreme Court rule, by mob rule.

How is Kavanaugh going to get elected, by mob rule, even if just 1 vote. Use to be by 3/5ths but the GOP changed that, and elected Gorsuch by nuclear option.

Only for the Potus we have EC,

Then we have the faithless Electoral College votes.

PS: Clinton won the maj vote by the largest number in the history of the US and lost.

This is what your side wants Democracy to looks like:

 

[there4eyeM]

"Mob" and "majority" are in no way synonymous terms. While a wild, disorderly uprising could involve a majority of people, a majority of people is not necessarily a wild, disorderly thing. This is so obvious that one wonders what the o.p. really wants to express, as the poster is clearly neither stupid nor ignorant.

It is when it comes to voting. All the time the GOP and Cons say a Potus should not be elected by mob rule, and that means Maj rule. Why not?? Everything else is done by mob rule.

O.K. Understood; you want to say that anti-democratic voices wish to misuse (another) term in order to denegrate what they oppose. Sorry to have not understood.

 

[bullwinkle]

So the passage of Obamacare was mob rule too right?

And the majority of people want it. Obama won the popular vote, remember?

Obamacare NEVER had a majority of Americans wanting it passed. BO had to bride D senators to get it passed, yet it did little for the American people but did enrich O’s big insurance, pharmaceutical, and hospital donors. This is what corrupt corporatists do.

You like mob rule when it fits your opinion and don’t like when it doesn’t. I don’t think you are thinking clearly.

The maj of people now say they want it. Most people did not know that Obamacare was the ACA, they just hated Obama, but they like it now. Many were Trump voters.

That does not change the fact that during it's passage, the vast majority of Americans did not want it.

Your thread here is talking about voting in a SC justice, based on majority rule. The majority of Americans did not want Ocare, when it was up for a vote in Congress. The majority did not get what they wanted. Why are you not upset about this?

The majority of Americans did NOT want Medicare part D, but got it anyway because the vote was held open beyond time limits while arms were twisted. As for the ACA, I can't say for sure, but I think a majority of the public DID want it, but since I wanted it even though it did not affect me, I can't be certain about the numbers. I do know Republicans added some 60 amendments to the act, then voted against it en masse.

 

[xband]

xband is above super-genius and why I trifle with you people is beyond me.

 

[jasonnfree]

Mob rule is just another name for Maj rule

I completely disagree. All too often we see the minority of radical liberals loudly throwing a fit and eventually getting their way, getting their interests imposed on the majority. The ACA, for example, was passed by 'Mob Rule', as the Democrats controlled a near super-majority control of Congress allowing them to impose a minority-supported liberal piece of legislation down the throats of a majority of Americans who opposed it. It certainly was not 'representative government' where the 'servants of the people' did the people's bidding.

The conservatives/republicans didn't want Obamacare because it was Obama's proposal. I haven't seen them come up with a proposal that's better. In fact, I've never seen republicans come up with any plan that's ever helped the average American.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

So the passage of Obamacare was mob rule too right?

And the majority of people want it. Obama won the popular vote, remember?

Obamacare NEVER had a majority of Americans wanting it passed. BO had to bride D senators to get it passed, yet it did little for the American people but did enrich O’s big insurance, pharmaceutical, and hospital donors. This is what corrupt corporatists do.

You like mob rule when it fits your opinion and don’t like when it doesn’t. I don’t think you are thinking clearly.

The maj of people now say they want it. Most people did not know that Obamacare was the ACA, they just hated Obama, but they like it now. Many were Trump voters.

That does not change the fact that during it's passage, the vast majority of Americans did not want it.

Your thread here is talking about voting in a SC justice, based on majority rule. The majority of Americans did not want Ocare, when it was up for a vote in Congress. The majority did not get what they wanted. Why are you not upset about this?

You mean the ACA, how would you know, that was one thing Obama said he was going to do and who got the maj vote. Also he did it, created something that the American people grew to love, except for those rat trap states that did not expand Medicaid.

Now people have to work to get health ins, and companies no longer have to offer it , well they never did, except under the ACA.

America hated this worthless healthcare from the start. It was harmful to america and hundreds of thousands died because of his irresponsible law.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Mob rule is just another name for Maj rule

I completely disagree. All too often we see the minority of radical liberals loudly throwing a fit and eventually getting their way, getting their interests imposed on the majority. The ACA, for example, was passed by 'Mob Rule', as the Democrats controlled a near super-majority control of Congress allowing them to impose a minority-supported liberal piece of legislation down the throats of a majority of Americans who opposed it. It certainly was not 'representative government' where the 'servants of the people' did the people's bidding.

The conservatives/republicans didn't want Obamacare because it was Obama's proposal. I haven't seen them come up with proposal that's better. In fact, I've never seen republicans come up with any plan that's ever helped the average American.

We have seen libs keep millions in perpetual poverty to the tune of over 20 trillion though.

 

[night_son]

and doesn't that happen in congress, and how do we vote for the congressmen? Mob rule.

How does the Supreme Court rule, by mob rule.

How is Kavanaugh going to get elected, by mob rule, even if just 1 vote. Use to be by 3/5ths but the GOP changed that, and elected Gorsuch by nuclear option.

Only for the Potus we have EC,

Then we have the faithless Electoral College votes.

PS: Clinton won the maj vote by the largest number in the history of the US and lost.

Because a dictatorship of the proletariat is the true American way, huh?

 

[miketx]

and doesn't that happen in congress, and how do we vote for the congressmen? Mob rule.

How does the Supreme Court rule, by mob rule.

How is Kavanaugh going to get elected, by mob rule, even if just 1 vote. Use to be by 3/5ths but the GOP changed that, and elected Gorsuch by nuclear option.

Only for the Potus we have EC,

Then we have the faithless Electoral College votes.

PS: Clinton won the maj vote by the largest number in the history of the US and lost.

That's what liberals do. Lie. How many times does your dumbass have to be told that the popular vote HAS NEVER ELECTED A PRESIDENT?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

and doesn't that happen in congress, and how do we vote for the congressmen? Mob rule.

How does the Supreme Court rule, by mob rule.

How is Kavanaugh going to get elected, by mob rule, even if just 1 vote. Use to be by 3/5ths but the GOP changed that, and elected Gorsuch by nuclear option.

Only for the Potus we have EC,

Then we have the faithless Electoral College votes.

PS: Clinton won the maj vote by the largest number in the history of the US and lost.

Because a dictatorship of the proletariat is the true American way, huh?

They want the mao types to come in and dictate communism. Make no mistake. This is where theyre heading. They worship govt. Its all they have.

 

[Flash]

Liberals use mob rule to get welfare every chance they get.

The failure of democracy. A form of government where the majority can use the power of the government to steal from the minority.

 

[night_son]

and doesn't that happen in congress, and how do we vote for the congressmen? Mob rule.

How does the Supreme Court rule, by mob rule.

How is Kavanaugh going to get elected, by mob rule, even if just 1 vote. Use to be by 3/5ths but the GOP changed that, and elected Gorsuch by nuclear option.

Only for the Potus we have EC,

Then we have the faithless Electoral College votes.

PS: Clinton won the maj vote by the largest number in the history of the US and lost.

Because a dictatorship of the proletariat is the true American way, huh?

They want the mao types to come in and dictate communism. Make no mistake. This is where theyre heading. They worship govt. Its all they have.

Yes. True. Right now the only thing holding back the revolutionary radical left from forever changing America is our rule by law and Constitution. Funny thing that.

 

[sakinago]

and doesn't that happen in congress, and how do we vote for the congressmen? Mob rule.

How does the Supreme Court rule, by mob rule.

How is Kavanaugh going to get elected, by mob rule, even if just 1 vote. Use to be by 3/5ths but the GOP changed that, and elected Gorsuch by nuclear option.

Only for the Potus we have EC,

Then we have the faithless Electoral College votes.

PS: Clinton won the maj vote by the largest number in the history of the US and lost.

So, it seems like you’re against mob rule, and then for mob rule? I don’t know what to make of this post.

We are a constitutional republic. That takes elements from democracy, but also tries to balance out the mob of “mob rule” in a pure democracy. Then there’s the constitution that limits what government can actually do, as well as creates the three branches locked in a constant rock, paper, scissors battle. Congress represents the population, senate represents the states. The electoral college ensures that the heavily populated cities and states don’t steam roll the less populated rural ones. Obviously different needs and concerns for different regions and community layouts. Just because the electoral college balances out the heavily populated regions with the less populated ones, doesn’t mean that the voice of the heavily populated regions is completely leveled out with the more rural ones, there is still plenty of a slant in favor of the larger populations.

So the congress and senate are not “mob rule”, there still needs to be voting in a republic, the congress and senate just act as representatives of their constituents.

 

[easyt65]

The conservatives/republicans didn't want Obamacare because it was Obama's proposal.

Bullshit.

Approx 5 - 7 days BEFORE the Democrats rushed to pass the ACA in the wee-hours of the morning after a grand total of ZERO Democrats had read the entire (or almost any of) ACA that the American people had literally shutdown the DC / Congressional phone lines to demand the ACA be rejected, at which time NO vote was held. The Democrats complied, shelving the bill...for several days. Once 'out of sight, out of mind', the Democrats literally ran to Congress and passed the bill as Americans slept, and they awoke to the fact that it was 'now' law.
** The actual physical ACA bill that the Senate voted on was not even physically in the Senate in one piece. The bill had been split apart into pieces and spread all over to give Democrat lawmakers an opportunity to read it before the rushed vote....an opportunity not one single Democrat took advantage of. Their aides scanned quickly through what pieces of the bill they were able to get their hands on and tried to brief their bosses on what little they knew...which means at the time of the vote sending the ACA into law, House and Senate aides - who knew next to nothing about what was in the entire bill, knew more about what was in the bill than their bosses - the people who voted it into law - did. HOLY COW!

The ACA was a Democratic Party piece of Liberal Progressive Socialist ideology, a minority-supported piece of Democrat-ONLY legislation literally forced into law and down the throats of the MAJORITY of Americans who opposed it.

'It will not cost a dime' - LIE!

• "The non-partisan office estimates that the program will cost the federal government $1.34 trillion over the next decade, an increase of $136 billion from the CBO's predictions in 2015. In 2016 alone, Obamacare will cost a total of $110 billion."

'It will pay for itself.' - LIE!

• AGAIN: "The non-partisan office estimates that the program will cost the federal government $1.34 trillion over the next decade, an increase of $136 billion from the CBO's predictions in 2015. In 2016 alone, Obamacare will cost a total of $110 billion."

• "If current laws remain generally unchanged, CBO projects, federal budget deficits and debt would increase over the next 30 years—reaching the highest level of debt relative to GDP in the nation’s history by far."

'It will LOWER the cost of health care insurance / make health care more affordable for ALL.' - LIE!

• "Health care costs increased by 5.3 percent in 2014, from a low of 2.9 percent in 2013."

'If you like your current / existing plan / doctor, YOU CAN KEEP THEM.' - LIE!



OBAMA ALTERS ACA AFTER PASSAGE / VIOLATION
Before the ink from Obama's signature on the ACA bill, singing it into law, Obama was already signing EXEMPTIONS for companies like McDonalds who told Obama if he signed the ACA into law and they were forced to sign up and comply with the mandate to provide workers with insurance they would be firing a record number of employees...and all those fired Americans resulting from the Democrats ramming the ACA into law against the will of the people would blow up in his / their faces.

ILLEGAL AUTHORITY / POWERS WIELDED BY OBAMA
Obama did not just 'slightly alter' the ACA after it became law, as snowflakes like to argue, through his own tyrannical/dictatorial powers he claimed for himself he actually CHANGED the law, thereby violating the Separation of Powers Act (which would NOT be the 1st / only time he ever did so).

CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS SAVES ACA
Chief Justice Roberts according to Justice Kennedy, personally SAVED the ACA by over-stepping his and the USSC's legal authority. When the ACA went before the USSC, Obama's lawyers argued that the ACA was a PENALTY on Americans who refused to buy a product the federal government mandated they must buy. Roberts correctly pointed out that this was Un-Constitutional and- at that same moment - ALTERED THE GOVERNMENT'S / THE ACA LAWYER'S LEGAL ARGUMENT FOR THEM, DECLARING IT TO BE A TAX...WHICH WAS NOT THE ARGUMENT THEY SHOWED UP TO MAKE BEFORE ROBERTS AND THE USSC! (AGAIN, Justice Kennedy laid all of this out in his remarks later - Roberts' job was to HEAR and JUDGE the arguments made by both lawyers / legal teams appearing before the USSC, NOT to pick sides / change the arguments being made - which is what Roberts did.
-- AFTER declaring the 'penalties' to be a TAX, Kennedy pointed out that Roberts over-stepped his legal authority AGAIN. A Law suit over a tax can NOT legally be filed UNTIL AFTER AN ATTEMPT TO COLLECT THAT TAX HAS BEEN MADE. Kennedy pointed out that Roberts basically said, since we are all here, let's go ahead and have THAT hearing, which the opposing lawyers were not ready for, especially since Roberts had taken it upon himself to change the White House's entire argument on the spot.

DEMOCRATS GOT HAMMERED AFTER PASSING THE ACA
Democrats - the ones actually brave / stupid enough to return home after voting to pass the ACA into law and actually returned home to hold Townhall Meetings and meet with the voters - got HAMMERED by their constitutents, especially for NOT reading the bill they voted into law. Many returned home to find they were facing voters who actually read the bill and knew more about it than THEY did.

HARRY RIED ADMITS ACA 'BUILT TO FAIL' - 'STEPPING STONE TO SINGLE-PAYER':

Question asked to Reid: “Do you think that Obamacare is secretly a step toward single-payer health care?”
Reid's Answer: "Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”

REID:
“We had a real good run at the public option … don’t think we didn’t have a tremendous number of people who wanted a single-payer system. We had to get a majority of votes,” Reid said. “In fact, we had to get a little extra in the Senate, we have to get 60.”


According to the highest-ranking Democrat in the Senate, THE ACA WAS DESIGNED TO FAIL, designed to be a stepping-stone towards Single Payer, which the American people absolutely REJECTED it just a week earlier, forcing Democrats to publicly concede the defeat of the ACA, to wait until the people thought they had won, and then to ram it into law several days later as Americans slept.

The Democrats also completely DESTROYED THE EXISTING HEALTH CARE COVERAGE SYSTEM, leaving nothing to go back to. 'If you like your plan you can keep it?' BS! The ACA MANDATED THAT EVERY US POLICY CONTAINED THINGS THEY - THE DEMOCRATS - SAID THEY SHOULD / WOULD HAVE. 85% OR MORE OF THE EXISTING PLANS DID NOT HAVE SOME OR ALL OF THOSE MANDATED COVERAGES, SO AMERICANS LOST THOSE PLANS AND WERE FORCED TO BUY THE NEW ONES THE DEMOCRATS DICTATED TO THEM!



SOURCES:
Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System
August Flashbacks: Dems Face Downpour of Criticism Over Healthcare Vote Back Home - NRCC
Affordable Care Act | Congressional Budget Office
Here's How Many Billions Obamacare Will Cost in 2016
Effects of the ACA on Health Care Cost Containment


CLAIMING THE ONLY REASON CONSERVATIVES - ACTUALLY, THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS - DID NOT WANT THE ACA WAS BECAUSE 'IT WAS OBAMA'S IDEA' IS A BALD-FACED LIE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS!

 

[Penelope]

and doesn't that happen in congress, and how do we vote for the congressmen? Mob rule.

How does the Supreme Court rule, by mob rule.

How is Kavanaugh going to get elected, by mob rule, even if just 1 vote. Use to be by 3/5ths but the GOP changed that, and elected Gorsuch by nuclear option.

Only for the Potus we have EC,

Then we have the faithless Electoral College votes.

PS: Clinton won the maj vote by the largest number in the history of the US and lost.

So, it seems like you’re against mob rule, and then for mob rule? I don’t know what to make of this post.

We are a constitutional republic. That takes elements from democracy, but also tries to balance out the mob of “mob rule” in a pure democracy. Then there’s the constitution that limits what government can actually do, as well as creates the three branches locked in a constant rock, paper, scissors battle. Congress represents the population, senate represents the states. The electoral college ensures that the heavily populated cities and states don’t steam roll the less populated rural ones. Obviously different needs and concerns for different regions and community layouts. Just because the electoral college balances out the heavily populated regions with the less populated ones, doesn’t mean that the voice of the heavily populated regions is completely leveled out with the more rural ones, there is still plenty of a slant in favor of the larger populations.

So the congress and senate are not “mob rule”, there still needs to be voting in a republic, the congress and senate just act as representatives of their constituents.

I am pro maj (mob) rule. Why is only the Potus not elected by maj rule. Also the Senate represents the states no matter what the pop is, so every state is represented. Why do we have maj rule in the primaries and nominees for Potus.