'Moderate' John Kasich Just Defunded Planned Parenthood In Ohio

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why exactly does the government need to give them money to kill children?

It saves us money. $500 now or $12k a year for 18 years then $30k a year for prison.

False dichotomy. We don't have to pay for any of those things. We choose to.

You choose to pay for welfare and prisons? Tell us, just when did you choose that?

We choose it every time we go to the voting booth.

 

[sonic]

Wow, Kasich just handed Ohio to Hillary Clinton on a silver platter.

 

[LeftofLeft]

According to Planned Parenthood elite, a profit center exists in the resale of aborted body parts. Why does a PP center need tax payer funds when they can cover costs and profits with the resale of parts?

They don't sell body parts, it's a story made up by the Right.

Really?

That's funny. It's been proven by forensic experts that those videos were severely manipulated.

Let's see a link.

It was all over the news a few weeks ago. You should read something besides Right Wing Crap.

You are not even providing a single piece of Left Wing content for comparison and refute as from a specious comment that "it was all over the news". Where do you Lefties get off thinking you can leave out substance in place of your own form? Unbelievable.

 

[ScienceRocks]

There's nothing moderate about destroy peoples ability to get help. Kasich is nothing more then a quit loserterian filth.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Why exactly does the government need to give them money to kill children?

Government money is not used for abortions.

If we give money to an oil drilling company and they say the money doesn't go to the drilling, would you believe that bullshit?

Except the gov't doesn't just " give" money to PP.

uhhuh

what else does it do?

 

[Two Thumbs]

There's nothing moderate about destroy peoples ability to get help. Kasich is nothing more then a quit loserterian filth.

everyone is required to have health ins or else, therefore they have access

 

[Hutch Starskey]

There's nothing moderate about destroy peoples ability to get help. Kasich is nothing more then a quit loserterian filth.

everyone is required to have health ins or else, therefore they have access

Yes dummy. Through Medicaid. Medicaid expansion is part of the ACA. PP is a Medicaid provider.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Why exactly does the government need to give them money to kill children?

Government money is not used for abortions.

If we give money to an oil drilling company and they say the money doesn't go to the drilling, would you believe that bullshit?

Except the gov't doesn't just " give" money to PP.

uhhuh

what else does it do?

Got nothing huh?

 

[Mac1958]

Hail Mary legislation. Meh. Should be interesting to see how the eventual GOP nominee deals with it.

 

[Wildman]

"It’s clear Kasich has no regard for women’s health or lives, and will stop at nothing to block health care for the tens of thousands of Ohioans who rely on Planned Parenthood,” Richards added.

ooooh.., boo fucking hooo!! PP has nothing to do with "women's health" they are all about murdering babies, butchering them and selling the parts, they make enough money from that they do not need tax payers funding.

Richards can go fuck himself or Pokeyhontas....!

 

[NYcarbineer]

PP is an abortion mill. That is their main function, the rest of the services are more of a front than anything else.

That's funny. Prove it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"It’s clear Kasich has no regard for women’s health or lives, and will stop at nothing to block health care for the tens of thousands of Ohioans who rely on Planned Parenthood,” Richards added.

ooooh.., boo fucking hooo!! PP has nothing to do with "women's health" they are all about murdering babies, butchering them and selling the parts, they make enough money from that they do not need tax payers funding.

Richards can go fuck himself or Pokeyhontas....!

You are the most uninformed poster on this board.

 

[the_human_being]

Although the GOP presidential hopeful has been hailed by many in his party as being moderate, he has long supported abortion restrictions in his state.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) on Sunday signed a bill that effectively defunds Planned Parenthood in his state.

The bill strips state and some federal funding from health clinics that perform and promote "nontherapeutic abortions," including Planned Parenthood facilities.

While the bill grants an exemption to abortions performed in cases of rape, incest and preserving the life of the mother, it jeopardizes the fate of other vital women's health programs.

For example, the $1.3 million in state grants that Planned Parenthood is slated to lose was allocated toward HIV testing, cancer screenings and programs that help prevent domestic violence and infant mortality.

In a statement, the organization's president, Cecile Richards, denounced the bill, arguing that it would have "devastating consequences for women across Ohio."

“John Kasich is proudly eliminating care for expectant mothers and newborns; he is leaving thousands without vital STD and HIV testing, slashing a program to fight domestic violence, and cutting access to essential, basic health care," she said.

"It’s clear Kasich has no regard for women’s health or lives, and will stop at nothing to block health care for the tens of thousands of Ohioans who rely on Planned Parenthood,” Richards added.

More: 'Moderate' John Kasich Just Defunded Planned Parenthood In Ohio

A sad day for Ohioans. I wonder if they will support him for president?

According to Planned Parenthood elite, a profit center exists in the resale of aborted body parts. Why does a PP center need tax payer funds when they can cover costs and profits with the resale of parts?

They don't sell body parts, it's a story made up by the Right.

And the fools that faked the video are indicted.

But you see absolutely nothing wrong with them contributing to Hillary's campaign? That figures.

Whose campaign would you rather they contribute to? The ones trying to destroy them?

Of course not. I say any entity that accepts taxpayer funding should be barred from contributing to any politician or establishing any Super Pacs that support any politician.

 

[sealybobo]

"Last year, Kasich also said that he supports a state bill that would ban abortions for Down syndrome."

Mr. Fascist government, at work...

Republicans Introduce An Anti-Abortion Bill So Extreme That GOP Women In Congress Are Revolting

Republicans Introduce An Anti-Abortion Bill So Extreme That GOP Women In Congress Are Revolting

Several Republican congresswomen are reportedly splitting from their party on a national abortion bill that’s scheduled for a vote in the House next week, raising concerns that the legislation is too extreme and will alienate female voters. The legislation has passed the House for the past two years and was expected to have broad support in the 114th Congress, particularly as Republicans have set their sights on later abortions as an area where they believe they can advance their agenda.
However, the National Journal reports that a group of GOP women led by Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) have started pushing back against the legislation, expressing concerns during a closed-door meeting of House Republicans. Ellmers reportedly said she is worried that voting on the 20-week ban will alienate young female voters, urging her colleagues “to be smart about how we’re moving forward.”

 

[sealybobo]

"It’s clear Kasich has no regard for women’s health or lives, and will stop at nothing to block health care for the tens of thousands of Ohioans who rely on Planned Parenthood,” Richards added.

ooooh.., boo fucking hooo!! PP has nothing to do with "women's health" they are all about murdering babies, butchering them and selling the parts, they make enough money from that they do not need tax payers funding.

Richards can go fuck himself or Pokeyhontas....!

You right wing fucking wack jobs will believe anything the GOP tells you.

Meanwhile stem cell research has come up with some great cures. If you ever need stem cell, they should deny it to your dumb ass. They should let you die because you are so worried about a seed in a woman's body being poked under a microscope. Unfuckingbelievable.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/06/gordie-howe-protocol-stem-cells.html

Howe, who was 86, had suffered a stroke. He was paralyzed on his right side, could barely talk, and, once he’d returned from the hospital, needed someone to lift him from his bed to a wheelchair and back. He couldn’t remember the names of his four children — Marty, Mark, Cathy, and Murray — and over the next several weeks, his condition only grew worse. One day, Mark found him crying alone in bed. When Mark took him to get an epidural to relieve his back pain, the doctor took one look at Gordie and asked Mark if it might be better to just let his father go. On the rare occasion when Gordie managed to speak, he would sometimes tell his children that he had one last request: “Just take me out back and shoot me.”

But around Thanksgiving, as he began refusing to do his physical therapy — “We had never seen him quit anything,” Mark said — the family received a call from Dave McGuigan, the marketing chief at Stemedica, a stem-cell manufacturer in San Diego.

Medical tourism is a boom industry: The CDC estimates that 750,000 Americans each year seek medical care abroad, where it is often cheaper and doctors are willing to perform riskier procedures they can’t, or won’t, in the United States.

The next morning, Marty and Murray drove with their father across the border to Clínica Santa Clarita, where Gordie bent over a table to expose his lower back so that a needle could be inserted into his spinal canal to inject the stem cells. The procedure then required Howe to lie prone for eight hours. After that deadline, around 9 p.m., Howe told Murray he needed to use the bathroom and that he intended to walk there in order to do so. Since the stroke, Murray had coaxed his father to take ten steps with a walker, but only once.
“Dad, you can’t walk,” Murray said.
“The hell I can’t,” Howe replied

 

[OldLady]

With the advent of ACA (ObamaCare), women can get all the services they need, at a regular medical clinic or hospital or doctor's office, that they formerly received at these chop-shops...

And a great deal more...

Now that everybody has Obumblecare, it may be reasonably argued that Planned Parenthood has outlived its usefulness, and that such care may be shifted to mainstream medical providers...

One of the delicious ironies of having ACA shoved down our throats...

Karma's a bitch, ain't it, Libs?

millions of Americans aren't covered by Obamacare yet. Most of them can't afford it, the exact same women who utilize PP. You are taking needed healthcare from women. Glad you're so proud of yourself.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Nothing but hit and run talking point dumps and lies from the cons. Not one post of substance from one of them.

 

[talksalot]

The question you Left Wingers refuse to address is why is Planned Parenthood needed at all with these women being covered by Obamacare? Why can't they do like millions of other women and go see a regular female doctor, hospital, or clinic?

That's not your choice to make - it's theirs.

In other words we both know why the use Planned Parenthood instead of using conventional medical providers.

Really? Please explain it to us - with "credible" proof.

You have lost all your credibility on this issue.

Gee, where's your "credible" proof?

If Planned Parenthood would use separate facilities for their abortion industry, I would have no problem with them receiving tax payer funding for their other services. Shared facilities means tax dollars are subsidizing abortions.

Disentangling the Data on Planned Parenthood Affiliates’ Abortion Services and Receipt of Taxpayer Funding

Under Title X grants, abortion providers are able to prorate expenses such as staff and waiting rooms, covering a portion of the fixed costs of the abortion-related staff and facilities. According to the Guttmacher Institute,

Because Title X grants offer up-front funding to providers (rather than payment after-the-fact, as with Medicaid or private insurance), the program provides essential infrastructure support that allows health centers providing family planning services to keep their doors open for clients.

In addition, federal regulations require that "each project supported under [Title X] must…[n]ot provide abortion as a method of family planning,” but also “must”:

(i) Offer pregnant women the opportunity to be provided information and counseling regarding each of the following options: (A) Prenatal care and delivery;(B) Infant care, foster care, or adoption; and (C) Pregnancy termination.

Planned Parenthood affiliates therefore must offer every pregnant woman they serve under a Title X grant the opportunity to receive information about abortion. If any pregnant woman requests an abortion referral, the affiliate must provide such a referral, thereby using tax dollars to help grow or sustain the abortion industry.

Redirect Funding for Planned Parenthood to Other Health Care Centers
To ensure that taxpayers are not forced to subsidize America’s number one abortion provider, Congress should make Planned Parenthood affiliates ineligible to receive either Medicaid reimbursements or Title X grants if they continue to perform abortions. Taxpayer money from these programs should instead be redirected to the more than 9,000 federally qualified health center sites throughout the country that provide comprehensive primary health care for those in need without entanglement in abortion.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

That's not your choice to make - it's theirs.

In other words we both know why the use Planned Parenthood instead of using conventional medical providers.

Really? Please explain it to us - with "credible" proof.

You have lost all your credibility on this issue.

Gee, where's your "credible" proof?

If Planned Parenthood would use separate facilities for their abortion industry, I would have no problem with them receiving tax payer funding for their other services. Shared facilities means tax dollars are subsidizing abortions.

Disentangling the Data on Planned Parenthood Affiliates’ Abortion Services and Receipt of Taxpayer Funding

Under Title X grants, abortion providers are able to prorate expenses such as staff and waiting rooms, covering a portion of the fixed costs of the abortion-related staff and facilities. According to the Guttmacher Institute,

Because Title X grants offer up-front funding to providers (rather than payment after-the-fact, as with Medicaid or private insurance), the program provides essential infrastructure support that allows health centers providing family planning services to keep their doors open for clients.

In addition, federal regulations require that "each project supported under [Title X] must…[n]ot provide abortion as a method of family planning,” but also “must”:

(i) Offer pregnant women the opportunity to be provided information and counseling regarding each of the following options: (A) Prenatal care and delivery;(B) Infant care, foster care, or adoption; and (C) Pregnancy termination.

Planned Parenthood affiliates therefore must offer every pregnant woman they serve under a Title X grant the opportunity to receive information about abortion. If any pregnant woman requests an abortion referral, the affiliate must provide such a referral, thereby using tax dollars to help grow or sustain the abortion industry.

Redirect Funding for Planned Parenthood to Other Health Care Centers
To ensure that taxpayers are not forced to subsidize America’s number one abortion provider, Congress should make Planned Parenthood affiliates ineligible to receive either Medicaid reimbursements or Title X grants if they continue to perform abortions. Taxpayer money from these programs should instead be redirected to the more than 9,000 federally qualified health center sites throughout the country that provide comprehensive primary health care for those in need without entanglement in abortion.

PP qualifies for title X funding just as any other family planning entity. What separates them from others is their size. Title X only makes up 10% of their overall funding. To suggest that in any way is used to support abortion services that only accounts for 3% of their total services is ridiculous.Title X cannot be used to fund abortion under the law.
BTW the taxpayers in no way subsidize PP.
Learn what a subsidy is. Also PP is a federally qualified health provider.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Why exactly does the government need to give them money to kill children?

Government money is not used for abortions.

If we give money to an oil drilling company and they say the money doesn't go to the drilling, would you believe that bullshit?

Except the gov't doesn't just " give" money to PP.

uhhuh

what else does it do?

Got nothing huh?

I asked the question. If that's your reply,,,,, well that's called projection