More record temps

[skookerasbil]

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[Trakar]

Worldwide, Blame for Climate Change Falls on Humans

You seem to be mistaken

 

[Meister]

Worldwide, Blame for Climate Change Falls on Humans

You seem to be mistaken

The world would be the benefactors of our money, Trakar. Go figure.

PS....Follow the money, always follow the money

 

[saveliberty]

One must also be careful how you interpret trends in Antarctic sea ice. Currently this ice is increasing and has been for years but is this the smoking gun against climate change? Not quite. Antarctic sea ice is gaining because of many different reasons but the most accepted recent explanations are listed below:

i) Ozone levels over Antarctica have dropped causing stratospheric cooling and increasing winds which lead to more areas of open water that can be frozen (Gillet 2003, Thompson 2002, Turner 2009).

and

ii) The Southern Ocean is freshening because of increased rain, glacial run-off and snowfall. This changes the composition of the different layers in the ocean there causing less mixing between warm and cold layers and thus less melted sea ice (Zhang 2007).

All the sea ice talk aside, it is quite clear that really when it comes to Antarctic ice, sea ice is not the most important thing to measure. In Antarctica, the most important ice mass is the land ice sitting on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the East Antarctic Ice Sheet.

Is Antarctica losing or gaining ice?

I notice we are getting a lot more rain these days. If it continues, a shift in ice generation should occur according to this model. Reduced ozone whould increase winds and ice growth as well. Oh, oh, the Earth is making adjustments.

 

[Trakar]

Worldwide, Blame for Climate Change Falls on Humans

You seem to be mistaken

The world would be the benefactors of our money, Trakar. Go figure.

PS....Follow the money, always follow the money

It is cheaper to address climate change issues before the impacts fully manifest than it is to try and ameliorate damages as and after they occur. The delay only enhances short term profits for the few, while costing more in taxes for all to deal with the damages and impacts later on,...indeed, follow the money,...who has record profits to protect, while they are still suckling at the government subsidy teat?

 

[gslack]

I smell a clone...

 

[Trakar]

I smell a clone...

Did you check your lederhosen?!

 

[RollingThunder]

It is always funny watching reality deniers try to deny what is right there in front of everyone's faces. You poor deluded dupes are a hoot sometimes. Most times though your're just very pathetic.

Here's a further reality check for those with their eyes open.

All 50 States Have Set High Temperature Records This July
(excerpt)

With the East Coast heat wave this weekend, every state in the union has seen record high temperatures this month — Delaware was the last to fall to the heat. Record highs have outpaced record lows by a ratio of five to one: There have been 2,068 record high daily maximum temperatures in the United States, 1.5 percent of all the measurements. There have been only 380 record low minimum temperatures, 0.3 percent of the readings. More remarkably, and consistent with the expected effect of higher greenhouse gas concentrations, nights have been even warmer — 4,638 record high daily minimum temperatures were recorded, 3.4 percent of all readings. There have been only 638 record low daily maximum temperatures, 0.5 percent of all readings.



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[bigrebnc1775]

Why is it that record high temperatures in the US means global climate change, but record snowfalls in the US are only local weather events?

Actually record snowfalls are the result of higher humidity caused by global warming.

The temperature of the oceans is at a record high, and this creates more humidity.

Thanks for bringing that up.

You need cold to make snow, so record snowfalls in the US prove global cooling.

Chris is a very much needed comic relief.

 

[Spud]

How do you get global warming from one set of data from one country?

 

[RollingThunder]

Actually record snowfalls are the result of higher humidity caused by global warming.

The temperature of the oceans is at a record high, and this creates more humidity.

Thanks for bringing that up.

You need cold to make snow, so record snowfalls in the US prove global cooling.

Chris is a very much needed comic relief.

Or perhaps your ignorant comments are un-needed and rather idiotic.

2010 Produced Record Rainfall, and It Keeps Coming
University of Santa Barbara
(excerpt)

When one combines the impact of La Niña with the increase of global ocean temperatures of 0.5°C (0.9°F) over the past 50 years, which has put 4% more water vapor into the atmosphere since 1970, the result is a much increased chance of unprecedented floods. A 4% increase in atmospheric moisture may not sound like much, but it turns out that precipitation will increase by about 8% with that 4% moisture increase. Critically, it is the extreme rainfall events that tend to supply the increased rainfall. For example, (Groisman et al., 2004) found a 20% increase in very heavy (top 1%) precipitation events over the U.S. in the past century, and a 36% rise in cold season (October - April) "extreme" precipitation events (those in the 99.9% percentile--1 in 1000 events. These extreme rainfall events are the ones most likely to cause floods” (source).

 

[edthecynic]

Why is it that record high temperatures in the US means global climate change, but record snowfalls in the US are only local weather events?

Actually record snowfalls are the result of higher humidity caused by global warming.

The temperature of the oceans is at a record high, and this creates more humidity.

Thanks for bringing that up.

You need cold to make snow, so record snowfalls in the US prove global cooling.

But not RECORD cold!!!!!!!!
Snow is a precipitation event.

 

[RollingThunder]

How do you get global warming from one set of data from one country?

If you pulled your head out of the denier cult echo chamber and looked around, you would find data for the whole world readily available, but that data is not the topic of this thread. Here's a taste though.

June 2011 was the 316th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last month with below-average temperature was February 1985.

The June worldwide average land surface temperature was 0.89°C (1.60°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F)—the fourth warmest on record.

- NOAA
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Central England historical temperatures for April

This year brought the warmest April in at least 350 years in the Central England Temperature record, which averages readings from a set of long-term weather observing sites. (Illustration courtesy tamino.wordpress.org)

source: World Weather Post
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Perth setting new summer temperature records
Sun 27 Feb 2011
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Sydney faces week of record heat
January 31, 2011

 

[edthecynic]

You know, I'm having trouble finding any stories from the rest of the world about their having 9,000 record high temperatures.

Is the US global now?

You didn't get the memo? American weather = global climate.

At least among idiots.

Actually, that's what US Messageboard denier Ian has been claiming all along. He says it's because the US has the most temperature stations and therefore is the most accurate measure of global warming. Except, of course, when US temps indicate warming, then the US temps don't count for anything!!!

 

[Spud]

How do you get global warming from one set of data from one country?

If you pulled your head out of the denier cult echo chamber and looked around, you would find data for the whole world readily available, but that data is not the topic of this thread. Here's a taste though.

June 2011 was the 316th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last month with below-average temperature was February 1985.

The June worldwide average land surface temperature was 0.89°C (1.60°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F)—the fourth warmest on record.

- NOAA

See, I'm not a GW denier, I just enjoy accuracy, temperature from one country isn't applicable on a global level, and isn't proof of anything except high temperatures in one country. I can't pull rainfall levels from Korea and then try and apply that to Somalia. There's any number of factors affecting this, greenhouse gas is just one.

 

[edthecynic]

Remember, folks:

One month of cold temperatures in the winter does not disprove global warming.

But one month of hot temperatures in the summer proves it.

No one claimed that one month of hot temps proves global warming, that is just your Straw Man.

But deniers on this board have been mindlessly parroting on other threads their MessiahRushie's claim that there were NO heat records set in July.

July 25, 2011
RUSH: Well, how do you dolts feel now when you understand that there wasn't one record set last week? ... and there were no records set last week, pure and simple.

July 26, 2011
RUSH: "The government also reserves several hundred million dollars more," above and beyond the five billion, "which it can distribute to states during weather emergencies, such as the heat wave that is currently scorching large swaths of the country." But again, no heat records are being broken. Contrary to everything you've seen in the news, heat records are not being broken.

 

[gslack]

I smell a clone...

Did you check your lederhosen?!

Quiet clone...

 

[konradv]

I smell a clone...

That's your underwear.

 

[konradv]

I smell a clone...

Did you check your lederhosen?!

Quiet clone...

I smell a clown.