More record temps

[bigrebnc1775]

You need cold to make snow, so record snowfalls in the US prove global cooling.

Chris is a very much needed comic relief.

Or perhaps your ignorant comments are un-needed and rather idiotic.

2010 Produced Record Rainfall, and It Keeps Coming
University of Santa Barbara
(excerpt)

When one combines the impact of La Niña with the increase of global ocean temperatures of 0.5°C (0.9°F) over the past 50 years, which has put 4% more water vapor into the atmosphere since 1970, the result is a much increased chance of unprecedented floods. A 4% increase in atmospheric moisture may not sound like much, but it turns out that precipitation will increase by about 8% with that 4% moisture increase. Critically, it is the extreme rainfall events that tend to supply the increased rainfall. For example, (Groisman et al., 2004) found a 20% increase in very heavy (top 1%) precipitation events over the U.S. in the past century, and a 36% rise in cold season (October - April) "extreme" precipitation events (those in the 99.9% percentile--1 in 1000 events. These extreme rainfall events are the ones most likely to cause floods” (source).

Global warming was debunked when they tried to destory their non supported data.. You warmers lost move along and start some other kind of control agenda.

 

[gslack]

Kornhole you make another clone?

 

[gslack]

I want to know how many temperature threads chris is going to start....

 

[daveman]

It is always funny watching reality deniers try to deny what is right there in front of everyone's faces. You poor deluded dupes are a hoot sometimes. Most times though your're just very pathetic.

Here's a further reality check for those with their eyes open.

All 50 States Have Set High Temperature Records This July
(excerpt)

With the East Coast heat wave this weekend, every state in the union has seen record high temperatures this month — Delaware was the last to fall to the heat. Record highs have outpaced record lows by a ratio of five to one: There have been 2,068 record high daily maximum temperatures in the United States, 1.5 percent of all the measurements. There have been only 380 record low minimum temperatures, 0.3 percent of the readings. More remarkably, and consistent with the expected effect of higher greenhouse gas concentrations, nights have been even warmer — 4,638 record high daily minimum temperatures were recorded, 3.4 percent of all readings. There have been only 638 record low daily maximum temperatures, 0.5 percent of all readings.



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Gee, you idiots used to say weather couldn't be used to prove a trend until you had 10 years' worth of data.

Now it's 30 days.

This isn't science, Roxy. It's wishful thinking.

 

[daveman]

You know, I'm having trouble finding any stories from the rest of the world about their having 9,000 record high temperatures.

Is the US global now?

You didn't get the memo? American weather = global climate.

At least among idiots.

Actually, that's what US Messageboard denier Ian has been claiming all along. He says it's because the US has the most temperature stations and therefore is the most accurate measure of global warming. Except, of course, when US temps indicate warming, then the US temps don't count for anything!!!

I haven't seen him claim that. Perhaps you're seeing what you want to see.

What am I saying? Of course you do. You're an AGW cultist.

 

[gslack]

Remember, folks:

One month of cold temperatures in the winter does not disprove global warming.

But one month of hot temperatures in the summer proves it.

No one claimed that one month of hot temps proves global warming, that is just your Straw Man.

But deniers on this board have been mindlessly parroting on other threads their MessiahRushie's claim that there were NO heat records set in July.

July 25, 2011
RUSH: Well, how do you dolts feel now when you understand that there wasn't one record set last week? ... and there were no records set last week, pure and simple.

July 26, 2011
RUSH: "The government also reserves several hundred million dollars more," above and beyond the five billion, "which it can distribute to states during weather emergencies, such as the heat wave that is currently scorching large swaths of the country." But again, no heat records are being broken. Contrary to everything you've seen in the news, heat records are not being broken.

Hold on eunuch, you and chris have been making the case all along that all this record heat this past july has been due to global warming. Its no strawman shithead its fact you guys do it in every temp thread chris starts and you are doing it now moron....

IF one month of record cold in winter is not evidence that its not warming than one month of record heat in summer is not evidence of global warming either...

Dam you're dumb as a stumb ed...

 

[daveman]

Remember, folks:

One month of cold temperatures in the winter does not disprove global warming.

But one month of hot temperatures in the summer proves it.

No one claimed that one month of hot temps proves global warming, that is just your Straw Man.

Horseshit.

But deniers on this board have been mindlessly parroting on other threads their MessiahRushie's claim that there were NO heat records set in July.

July 25, 2011
RUSH: Well, how do you dolts feel now when you understand that there wasn't one record set last week? ... and there were no records set last week, pure and simple.

July 26, 2011
RUSH: "The government also reserves several hundred million dollars more," above and beyond the five billion, "which it can distribute to states during weather emergencies, such as the heat wave that is currently scorching large swaths of the country." But again, no heat records are being broken. Contrary to everything you've seen in the news, heat records are not being broken.

I don't listen to Rush, and I really don't care what he says. I'm not some hero-worshiping leftist.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I want to know how many temperature threads chris is going to start....

until he get's it right.

 

[daveman]

Worldwide, Blame for Climate Change Falls on Humans

You seem to be mistaken

The world would be the benefactors of our money, Trakar. Go figure.

PS....Follow the money, always follow the money

It is cheaper to address climate change issues before the impacts fully manifest than it is to try and ameliorate damages as and after they occur. The delay only enhances short term profits for the few, while costing more in taxes for all to deal with the damages and impacts later on,...indeed, follow the money,...who has record profits to protect, while they are still suckling at the government subsidy teat?

Currently, the price tag is 14 trillion dollars.

You know any nation that can afford that? We can't...especially since the AGW cult hasn't proven their case.

I'm not prepared to support the collapse of all Western economies based on bad science and fear-mongering. YMMV.

 

[Meister]

Worldwide, Blame for Climate Change Falls on Humans

You seem to be mistaken

The world would be the benefactors of our money, Trakar. Go figure.

PS....Follow the money, always follow the money

It is cheaper to address climate change issues before the impacts fully manifest than it is to try and ameliorate damages as and after they occur. The delay only enhances short term profits for the few, while costing more in taxes for all to deal with the damages and impacts later on,...indeed, follow the money,...who has record profits to protect, while they are still suckling at the government subsidy teat?

Luckily the US isn't falling for all your BS, Trakar. No dots have been connected, and the redistribution of our wealth isn't going to happen on this.
Keep carrying the water for the extreme left.

 

[konradv]

Kornhole you make another clone?

Here's the deal. I'll be a clone, if you'll admit you're a clown.

 

[Trakar]

Luckily the US isn't falling for all your BS, Trakar. No dots have been connected, and the redistribution of our wealth isn't going to happen on this.
Keep carrying the water for the extreme left.

Wealth is already being redistrbuted in the form of corporate welfare to those already recording record profits. Wealth is increasingly being redistributed in this country from the poorest members of our souciety to the wealthiest members of our society, why should the few be the only ones to extract benefit from the sweat of the brow of the many?
Will the working poor are paying increasingly more in real and virtual taxes, the wealth keeps travelling upward and stagnating at the top, it isn't being invested or "trickling down" on anyone. But these are simple, verifiable facts about filed markets and a broken economic system.

More important than these ideological perspectives, however, are the scientific facts and realities of climate change. Now if you want to discuss externalities and economic realities of climate change, we can certainly go that route, but economics is a science as well, and its going to take compelling reasoned discussion and supporting evidences not the hand-waving sound-byte rhetoric, which thus far, seems to be the extent of your discussion capacity on this topic.

 

[Trakar]

The world would be the benefactors of our money, Trakar. Go figure.

PS....Follow the money, always follow the money

It is cheaper to address climate change issues before the impacts fully manifest than it is to try and ameliorate damages as and after they occur. The delay only enhances short term profits for the few, while costing more in taxes for all to deal with the damages and impacts later on,...indeed, follow the money,...who has record profits to protect, while they are still suckling at the government subsidy teat?

Currently, the price tag is 14 trillion dollars.

Cite or reference?

"...Four global warming impacts alone—hurricane damage, real estate losses, energy costs, and water costs—will come with a price tag of 1.8 percent of U.S. GDP, or almost $1.9 trillion annually (in today’s dollars) by 2100..."
http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/cost/cost.pdf


Pay Now, Pay Later: How much is climate change going to cost you?
Pay Now, Pay Later: How much is climate change going to cost you? - YouTube
Pay Now, Pay Later A state-by-state assessment of the costs of climate change. Click on a state below to find out how much climate change is going to cost you.
Secure American Future - an American Security Project

Assessing the Near-Term Risk of Climate Uncertainty: Interdependencies among the
U.S. States
https://cfwebprod.sandia.gov/cfdocs/CCIM/docs/Climate_Risk_Assessment.pdf

...We use results of the climate-model ensemble from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change‘s (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) as a proxy for representing climate uncertainty over the next 40 years, map the simulated weather from the climate models hydrologically to the county level to determine the physical consequences on economic activity at the state level, and perform a detailed 70-industry analysis of economic impacts among the interacting lower-48 states. We determine the industry-level contribution to the gross domestic product and employment impacts at the state level, as well as interstate population migration, effects on personal income, and consequences for the U.S. trade balance. We show that the mean or average risk of damage to the U.S. economy from climate change, at the national level, is on the order of $1 trillion over the next 40 years, with losses in employment equivalent to nearly 7 million full-time jobs...

You know any nation that can afford that? We can't...especially since the AGW cult hasn't proven their case.

I'm not prepared to support the collapse of all Western economies based on bad science and fear-mongering. YMMV.

I don't think tax payers should be subsidizing the clean-up of the pollution and its impacts by companies with record making profits who are already receiving government subsidies to cover their research and development costs,...do you? Reducing or preventing climate change increases the strength of current and future economies, continuing the current trends only weakens and damages current and future economies.

 

[Meister]

Luckily the US isn't falling for all your BS, Trakar. No dots have been connected, and the redistribution of our wealth isn't going to happen on this.
Keep carrying the water for the extreme left.

Wealth is already being redistrbuted in the form of corporate welfare to those already recording record profits. Wealth is increasingly being redistributed in this country from the poorest members of our souciety to the wealthiest members of our society, why should the few be the only ones to extract benefit from the sweat of the brow of the many?
Will the working poor are paying increasingly more in real and virtual taxes, the wealth keeps travelling upward and stagnating at the top, it isn't being invested or "trickling down" on anyone. But these are simple, verifiable facts about filed markets and a broken economic system.

More important than these ideological perspectives, however, are the scientific facts and realities of climate change. Now if you want to discuss externalities and economic realities of climate change, we can certainly go that route, but economics is a science as well, and its going to take compelling reasoned discussion and supporting evidences not the hand-waving sound-byte rhetoric, which thus far, seems to be the extent of your discussion capacity on this topic.

Yeah, whatever
The evidence that you provide are from a funded studies... follow the money back from that point, Trakar. Several of the studies providing "evidence" of AGW are tainted. I could fund a study that would end up with my desired results...imagine that.
Your discussion capacity is your socialist views...I think a better fit for you would be the UK.
You can babble on you want, but in the end, your not going to change too many minds...just sayin'

 

[RollingThunder]

Chris is a very much needed comic relief.

Or perhaps your ignorant comments are un-needed and rather idiotic.

2010 Produced Record Rainfall, and It Keeps Coming
University of Santa Barbara
(excerpt)

When one combines the impact of La Niña with the increase of global ocean temperatures of 0.5°C (0.9°F) over the past 50 years, which has put 4% more water vapor into the atmosphere since 1970, the result is a much increased chance of unprecedented floods. A 4% increase in atmospheric moisture may not sound like much, but it turns out that precipitation will increase by about 8% with that 4% moisture increase. Critically, it is the extreme rainfall events that tend to supply the increased rainfall. For example, (Groisman et al., 2004) found a 20% increase in very heavy (top 1%) precipitation events over the U.S. in the past century, and a 36% rise in cold season (October - April) "extreme" precipitation events (those in the 99.9% percentile--1 in 1000 events. These extreme rainfall events are the ones most likely to cause floods” (source).

Global warming was debunked when they tried to destory their non supported data.. You warmers lost move along and start some other kind of control agenda.

No data was destroyed. That is just another one of your denier cult delusions. Anthropogenic global warming is very real and is evident all over the planet. You are just a brainwashed denier cult retard with your head jammed so far up your ass you can't see the evidence all around you.

 

[ScienceRocks]

La nina is coming back -.5c as of now within 3.4. Look at the models...Forecasting anywhere from -1.2-2.4 for late Fall. Moderate to stronger nina then 2008, late 2010-early 2011 nina. Lets see how the global temperatures turn out now. If we still beat 2008 with this then wow.

 

[daveman]

It is cheaper to address climate change issues before the impacts fully manifest than it is to try and ameliorate damages as and after they occur. The delay only enhances short term profits for the few, while costing more in taxes for all to deal with the damages and impacts later on,...indeed, follow the money,...who has record profits to protect, while they are still suckling at the government subsidy teat?

Currently, the price tag is 14 trillion dollars.

Cite or reference?

"...Four global warming impacts alone—hurricane damage, real estate losses, energy costs, and water costs—will come with a price tag of 1.8 percent of U.S. GDP, or almost $1.9 trillion annually (in today’s dollars) by 2100..."
http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/cost/cost.pdf


Pay Now, Pay Later: How much is climate change going to cost you?
Pay Now, Pay Later: How much is climate change going to cost you? - YouTube
Pay Now, Pay Later A state-by-state assessment of the costs of climate change. Click on a state below to find out how much climate change is going to cost you.
Secure American Future - an American Security Project

Assessing the Near-Term Risk of Climate Uncertainty: Interdependencies among the
U.S. States
https://cfwebprod.sandia.gov/cfdocs/CCIM/docs/Climate_Risk_Assessment.pdf

...We use results of the climate-model ensemble from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change‘s (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) as a proxy for representing climate uncertainty over the next 40 years, map the simulated weather from the climate models hydrologically to the county level to determine the physical consequences on economic activity at the state level, and perform a detailed 70-industry analysis of economic impacts among the interacting lower-48 states. We determine the industry-level contribution to the gross domestic product and employment impacts at the state level, as well as interstate population migration, effects on personal income, and consequences for the U.S. trade balance. We show that the mean or average risk of damage to the U.S. economy from climate change, at the national level, is on the order of $1 trillion over the next 40 years, with losses in employment equivalent to nearly 7 million full-time jobs...

You know any nation that can afford that? We can't...especially since the AGW cult hasn't proven their case.

I'm not prepared to support the collapse of all Western economies based on bad science and fear-mongering. YMMV.

I don't think tax payers should be subsidizing the clean-up of the pollution and its impacts by companies with record making profits who are already receiving government subsidies to cover their research and development costs,...do you? Reducing or preventing climate change increases the strength of current and future economies, continuing the current trends only weakens and damages current and future economies.

Ooops, sorry, I made a mistake.

The UN says it's 76 trillion dollars.

You can send them a check. But keep your damn hands out of my wallet.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I will go as far as to say that this year shouldn't be within the top 20 if a strong nina develops before the years out. Going to be a very cold year.

 

[Trakar]

I will go as far as to say that this year shouldn't be within the top 20 if a strong nina develops before the years out. Going to be a very cold year.

Seriously? The facts seem to indicate otherwise:

January 2011 Temperature anomaly
(temp above 1971 - 2000 baseline average)
The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for January 2011 was 0.38°C (0.68°F) above the 20th century average of 12.0°C (53.6°F). This is the 17th warmest January on record.
State of the Climate | Global Analysis | January 2011

February 2011 Temperature anomaly
The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for February 2011 was 0.40°C (0.72°F) above the 20th century average of 12.1°C (53.9°F). This ties for the 17th warmest such value on record.
State of the Climate | Global Analysis | February 2011

March 2011 Temperature anomaly
The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for March 2011 was the 13th warmest on record at 13.19°C (55.78°F), which is 0.49°C (0.88°F) above the 20th century average of 12.7°C (54.9°F). This was also the 35th consecutive March with global land and ocean temperatures above the 20th century average.
State of the Climate | Global Analysis | March 2011

April 2011 Temperature anomaly
The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for April 2011 was the seventh warmest April on record at 14.29°C (57.76°F), which is 0.59°C (1.06°F) above the 20th century average of 13.7°C (56.7°F). This was also the 35th consecutive April with global land and ocean temperatures above the 20th century average.
State of the Climate | Global Analysis | April 2011

May 2011 Temperature anomaly
The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for May 2011 was 0.50°C (0.90°F) above the 20th century average of 14.8°C (58.6°F). This is the 10th warmest such value since records began in 1880. For March–May 2011, the combined global land and ocean surface temperature was 0.53°C (0.95°F) above average—also the 10th warmest March–May on record. The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for January–May 2011 was the 12th warmest on record. The year-to-date period was 0.48°C (0.86°F) warmer than the 20th century average.
State of the Climate | Global Analysis | May 2011

June 2011 Temperature anomaly
The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for June 2011 was the seventh warmest on record at 16.08°C (60.94°F), which is 0.58°C (1.04°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F). June 2011 was the 316th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last month with below-average temperature was February 1985. The June worldwide average land surface temperature was 0.89°C (1.60°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F)—the fourth warmest on record. The global average ocean surface temperature was the 10th warmest June on record, at 0.47°C (0.85°F) above average. Neither El Niño nor La Niña conditions were present during June 2011. According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center, these ENSO-neutral conditions are expected to continue into the Northern Hemisphere fall 2011. The first half of 2011 (January–June) was the 11th warmest on record for the combined global land and ocean surface temperature. Separately, the worldwide average ocean temperature was also the 11th warmest January–June and the worldwide average land temperature was the 12th warmest such period.
State of the Climate | Global Analysis | June 2011

July 2011 Temperature anomaly
The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for July 2011 was the seventh warmest on record, at 16.37°C (61.43°F), which is 0.57°C (1.03°F) above the 20th century average of 15.8°C (60.4°F). The July worldwide land surface temperature was 0.84°C (1.51°F) above the 20th century average of 14.3°C (57.8°F)—the fifth warmest July on record. The worldwide ocean surface temperature was 0.47°C (0.85°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F)—the 11th warmest July on record. Neither El Niño nor La Niña conditions were present during July 2011. According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center, ENSO-neutral conditions are expected to continue into the Northern Hemisphere fall 2011. For the year-to-date, the global combined land and ocean surface temperature of 14.31°C (57.82°F) was the 11th warmest January–July period on record. This value is 0.51°C (0.92°F) above the 20th century average.
State of the Climate | Global Analysis | July 2011

That looks like 17th, 17th, 13th, 7th, 10th, 7th, and 7th, with a combined average already equalling the 11th warmest year on record with a combined anomaly of 0.51°C (0.92°F) above the 20th century average, and you are predicting this year won't make the top 20?
How strong are your convictions, what kind of odds are you offering?

 

[Trakar]

You can send them a check. But keep your damn hands out of my wallet.

You may want to give your tax money to the people already earning record profits, and then pay more taxes to clean up their mess, personally, I rather spend my money as I see fit, rather than making it rain on crony capitalists with no interest in this nation or any its citizens.