More stupid U.S. escalation with China over Taiwan

[Tom Paine 1949]

Pelosi’s big trip to Taiwan draws ire from China — and White House
The critics are right, a visit from such a high ranking official would be a serious mistake and the president should ask her to cancel it.

President Biden also seemed to question the wisdom of the trip, but he presented the objection to Pelosi’s visit as coming from military officials rather than directly from him. “The military thinks that it’s not a good idea right now,” Biden said on Wednesday in response to a reporter’s question.

In this case, the military is right. While there is an understandable desire to show support for Taiwan in response to increasing tensions with China, Pelosi’s visit would be a serious mistake that would likely make things worse. Sending one of the highest-ranking U.S. officials to Taiwan is bound to be very provocative, and it would expose Taiwan to additional risks for the sake of nothing more important than a glorified photo op.

The Quincy Institute’s Michael Swaine summed up the problems with the proposed visit: “Pelosi visiting Taiwan is such a bad idea it’s hard to know where to begin in criticizing it…. There is no upside to such a visit and only downsides.”

The report of Pelosi’s planned visit also comes in the wake of other visits to Taiwan by former top officials, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and former Secretary of Defense Mike Esper. During his visit, Esper called for an end to U.S. “strategic ambiguity.” Coming so soon after Esper’s remarks, a Pelosi visit would likely be interpreted as another step in the direction of making an explicit U.S. commitment to Taiwan’s defense.

Given that the president already erroneously declared in May that the U.S. has a commitment to fight for Taiwan, there is considerable confusion about the Biden administration’s policy on this question. The apparent lack of coordination between Biden and Pelosi over the August visit has only added to that confusion.

Pelosi's big trip to Taiwan draws ire from China — and White House

The critics are right, a visit from such a high ranking official would be a serious mistake and the president should ask her to cancel it.

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[Burgermeister]

Biden is such a pussy.

 

[konradv]

Pelosi’s big trip to Taiwan draws ire from China — and White House
The critics are right, a visit from such a high ranking official would be a serious mistake and the president should ask her to cancel it.

President Biden also seemed to question the wisdom of the trip, but he presented the objection to Pelosi’s visit as coming from military officials rather than directly from him. “The military thinks that it’s not a good idea right now,” Biden said on Wednesday in response to a reporter’s question.

In this case, the military is right. While there is an understandable desire to show support for Taiwan in response to increasing tensions with China, Pelosi’s visit would be a serious mistake that would likely make things worse. Sending one of the highest-ranking U.S. officials to Taiwan is bound to be very provocative, and it would expose Taiwan to additional risks for the sake of nothing more important than a glorified photo op.


The report of Pelosi’s planned visit also comes in the wake of other visits to Taiwan by former top officials, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and former Secretary of Defense Mike Esper. During his visit, Esper called for an end to U.S. “strategic ambiguity.” Coming so soon after Esper’s remarks, a Pelosi visit would likely be interpreted as another step in the direction of making an explicit U.S. commitment to Taiwan’s defense.

Given that the president already erroneously declared in May that the U.S. has a commitment to fight for Taiwan, there is considerable confusion about the Biden administration’s policy on this question. The apparent lack of coordination between Biden and Pelosi over the August visit has only added to that confusion.

Pelosi's big trip to Taiwan draws ire from China — and White House

The critics are right, a visit from such a high ranking official would be a serious mistake and the president should ask her to cancel it.

responsiblestatecraft.org

What we say and what we will do about Taiwan are two different things. If there’s anything to be said about Biden, it’s that he’s too honest for his own good.

 

[Maxdeath]

What we say and what we will do about Taiwan are two different things. If there’s anything to be said about Biden, it’s that he’s too honest for his own good.

Honest? Really? The guy has lied and plagiarized his whole life

 

[konradv]

Honest? Really? The guy has lied and plagiarized his whole life

In this case what I said is true. Diplomatically we’ve divorced ourselves from Taiwan, but will defend it and the 7th Fleet is constantly on the ready.

 

[ReinyDays]

Biden is such a pussy.

These five words say it all ...

 

[B. Kidd]

Pelosi’s big trip to Taiwan draws ire from China — and White House
The critics are right, a visit from such a high ranking official would be a serious mistake and the president should ask her to cancel it.

President Biden also seemed to question the wisdom of the trip, but he presented the objection to Pelosi’s visit as coming from military officials rather than directly from him. “The military thinks that it’s not a good idea right now,” Biden said on Wednesday in response to a reporter’s question.

In this case, the military is right. While there is an understandable desire to show support for Taiwan in response to increasing tensions with China, Pelosi’s visit would be a serious mistake that would likely make things worse. Sending one of the highest-ranking U.S. officials to Taiwan is bound to be very provocative, and it would expose Taiwan to additional risks for the sake of nothing more important than a glorified photo op.


The report of Pelosi’s planned visit also comes in the wake of other visits to Taiwan by former top officials, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and former Secretary of Defense Mike Esper. During his visit, Esper called for an end to U.S. “strategic ambiguity.” Coming so soon after Esper’s remarks, a Pelosi visit would likely be interpreted as another step in the direction of making an explicit U.S. commitment to Taiwan’s defense.

Given that the president already erroneously declared in May that the U.S. has a commitment to fight for Taiwan, there is considerable confusion about the Biden administration’s policy on this question. The apparent lack of coordination between Biden and Pelosi over the August visit has only added to that confusion.

Pelosi's big trip to Taiwan draws ire from China — and White House

The critics are right, a visit from such a high ranking official would be a serious mistake and the president should ask her to cancel it.

responsiblestatecraft.org

I believe Pelosi cancelled it.

 

[sartre play]

Taiwan is one of the reasons that the war in the Ukraine is so important. China is watching.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

I don’t expect any intelligence from the Trumpian “peanut gallery” here, which sees the problem as totally partisan, being centered on Biden having “no balls.” The problem is with the bipartisan U.S drift toward repudiation of the “One China” commitments we made to China decades ago.

We may be heading straight toward a totally avoidable military conflict with China over Taiwan — that will make the world economic problems arising from the Russian invasion of Ukraine seem almost insignificant by comparison.

 

[22lcidw]

In this case what I said is true. Diplomatically we’ve divorced ourselves from Taiwan, but will defend it and the 7th Fleet is constantly on the ready.

China will not be a caged dragon forever. We have her somewhat bottled up off her coast and she is expanding her naval fleet in a massive way. Taking Taiwan opens it up for them.

 

[Maxdeath]

In this case what I said is true. Diplomatically we’ve divorced ourselves from Taiwan, but will defend it and the 7th Fleet is constantly on the ready.

You have no real proof of that since we have not protected them. China has done nothing but threaten. If they do attack and we defend them then you could claim proof.
So far nothing about anything you have stated is correct

 

[gipper]

I don’t expect any intelligence from the Trumpian “peanut gallery” here, which sees the problem as totally partisan, being centered on Biden having “no balls.” The problem is with the bipartisan U.S drift toward repudiation of the “One China” commitments we made to China decades ago.

We may be heading straight toward a totally avoidable military conflict with China over Taiwan — that will make the world economic problems arising from the Russian invasion of Ukraine seem almost insignificant by comparison.

It’s almost as if they want nuclear annihilation.

 

[jwoodie]

I don’t expect any intelligence from the Trumpian “peanut gallery” here, which sees the problem as totally partisan, being centered on Biden having “no balls.” The problem is with the bipartisan U.S drift toward repudiation of the “One China” commitments we made to China decades ago.

We may be heading straight toward a totally avoidable military conflict with China over Taiwan — that will make the world economic problems arising from the Russian invasion of Ukraine seem almost insignificant by comparison.

And you want to blame this on a "bipartisan U.S. drift" in foreign policy? The current and impending military conflicts with Russia and China are a direct result of Biden's policy decisions. Man up, for God's sake.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

It’s almost as if they want nuclear annihilation.

I don’t want to discuss here any possible subliminal “death wish” of either our supposed “Deep State Establishment” or either political party, or of humanity in general.

I do agree that the possibility of catastrophic miscalculations are rising … partly due to U.S. arrogance and our nation’s inability to imagine a world where it no longer maintains world dominance.

 

[MarathonMike]

I don’t expect any intelligence from the Trumpian “peanut gallery” here, which sees the problem as totally partisan, being centered on Biden having “no balls.” The problem is with the bipartisan U.S drift toward repudiation of the “One China” commitments we made to China decades ago.

We may be heading straight toward a totally avoidable military conflict with China over Taiwan — that will make the world economic problems arising from the Russian invasion of Ukraine seem almost insignificant by comparison.

What are you suggesting? Just stand back and let China take any and everything they want? Are you saying China is not a threat to the US or the entire globe?

 

[White 6]

What we say and what we will do about Taiwan are two different things. If there’s anything to be said about Biden, it’s that he’s too honest for his own good.

Yes, I think you have something there. Honesty is the best policy, but sharing one's thoughts is often unwise, if unnecessary.

 

[shockedcanadian]

She apparently caught covid before the last attempted visit and thus cancelled.

There is pressure now for her not to go, Biden said that the Pentagon "didn't think it was a good idea". Whether they stated so or not, it will be the pretense for the second cancellation I imagine.

Geo-politics is a difficult game.

 

[konradv]

China will not be a caged dragon forever. We have her somewhat bottled up off her coast and she is expanding her naval fleet in a massive way. Taking Taiwan opens it up for them.

They won’t be taking Taiwan. China may try pushing Taiwan around, but I doubt they’d be stupid enough to try anything.

 

[White 6]

She apparently caught covid before the last attempted visit and thus cancelled.

There is pressure now for her not to go, Biden said that the Pentagon "didn't think it was a good idea". Whether they stated so or not, it will be the pretense for the second cancellation I imagine.

Geo-politics is a difficult game.

Difficult, yes, but Pelosi (2nd in succession below president should President and VP be out), by now should know better, as it would be nothing but a provocative photo op.

 

[jwoodie]

It’s almost as if they want nuclear annihilation.

Who is "they?"