Most importantly we need to create jobs, increasing taxes helps attain that how?

[editec]

More tax cuts will not solve the employment problem.

Tax increases will likewise not solve the employment problem.

The employment problem really has nothing to do with taxation.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

More tax cuts will not solve the employment problem.

Tax increases will likewise not solve the employment problem.

The employment problem really has nothing to do with taxation.

It certainly does for the small business owner who is taxed at a higher rate. Less liquid capital = less expansion.

 

[NYcarbineer]

More tax cuts will not solve the employment problem.

Tax increases will likewise not solve the employment problem.

The employment problem really has nothing to do with taxation.

It certainly does for the small business owner who is taxed at a higher rate. Less liquid capital = less expansion.

Uh, I think if you plow your capital back into the business, it isn't taxable as profit.

 

[bripat9643]

We've had roughly 1.1 trillion in tax cuts just since the recession began. Is that working?

Taxes have been increased since the recession began, not cut.

 

[bripat9643]

Ok, let's make a massive cut in federal spending this year and lay off, say 200,000 federal employees.

Then we'll cancel 500 billion dollars worth of ongoing or planned federal contracts with the private sector for goods and services.

How many net jobs will that create by next year?

My rule is that 4 private sector jobs are created for every useless tic the government lays off.

 

[Too Tall]

Well your idea about roads and bridges creating jobs is a myth imo. I live in KC. It has a large population with high unemployment. We have major road and bridge projects going on every year including before the downturn. Those projects have had 0 impact on our unemployed.

As far as corporations sitting on money your right. But why? Could it be the fear of the massive regulations? Could it be fear that obamas policies are going to have negative impacts on the economy as a whole?

I'll give you one example of jobs lost because of fear.... I am willing and able to buy another company truck. It's about a 50k investment. I have the money but am scared to death to spend it because I don't feel confident that I will have enough work through the next year to justify the investment.

Now do you consider me one of those evil and greedy business men?

You did not answer my question.

What is more important, that American children get an education, that our people get healthcare, the roads and bridges get fixed, that advanced materials research be done, the our military be supplied with the best equipment, that old people be taken care of, the our debt be paid down, that food and water be safe, that our environment be clean, OR THAT THE KOCH BROTHERS GET A NEW YACHT???

I don't know the answer but do you still beat your wife?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Well your idea about roads and bridges creating jobs is a myth imo. I live in KC. It has a large population with high unemployment. We have major road and bridge projects going on every year including before the downturn. Those projects have had 0 impact on our unemployed.

As far as corporations sitting on money your right. But why? Could it be the fear of the massive regulations? Could it be fear that obamas policies are going to have negative impacts on the economy as a whole?

I'll give you one example of jobs lost because of fear.... I am willing and able to buy another company truck. It's about a 50k investment. I have the money but am scared to death to spend it because I don't feel confident that I will have enough work through the next year to justify the investment.

Now do you consider me one of those evil and greedy business men?

You did not answer my question.

What is more important, that American children get an education, that our people get healthcare, the roads and bridges get fixed, that advanced materials research be done, the our military be supplied with the best equipment, that old people be taken care of, the our debt be paid down, that food and water be safe, that our environment be clean, OR THAT THE KOCH BROTHERS GET A NEW YACHT???

I don't know the answer but do you still beat your wife?

As you can see from Chris, many want the ends without understanding the
means. This is the problem for many

 

[Susan45]

We've had roughly 1.1 trillion in tax cuts just since the recession began. Is that working?

Taxes have been increased since the recession began, not cut.

Oh bull...

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950

Amid complaints about high taxes and calls for a smaller government, Americans paid their lowest level of taxes last year since Harry Truman's presidency, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data found.

Some conservative political movements such as the "Tea Party" have criticized federal spending as being out of control. While spending is up, taxes have fallen to exceptionally low levels.

• Stimulus law. One-third of last year's $862 billion economic stimulus went for tax cuts. Biggest reduction: The Making Work Pay tax credit reduced income taxes $800 for married couples earning up to $150,000.

• Progressive tax rates. Presidents Clinton and Bush pushed through a series of tax changes — credits, lower rates, higher exemptions — that slashed income taxes for poor and middle-class families. A drop in income now can trigger big tax breaks and sharply lower rates, sometimes falling to zero.

• Sales tax. Consumers cut spending sharply in this downturn, thereby paying less in sales taxes.

A Gallup Poll last month found that 48% thought taxes were "too high" and 45% thought they were "about right." Those saying taxes are "too high" remain near a 50-year low.

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950 - USATODAY.com

 

[NYcarbineer]

We've had roughly 1.1 trillion in tax cuts just since the recession began. Is that working?

Taxes have been increased since the recession began, not cut.

You're officially King of the USMB Retards.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ok, let's make a massive cut in federal spending this year and lay off, say 200,000 federal employees.

Then we'll cancel 500 billion dollars worth of ongoing or planned federal contracts with the private sector for goods and services.

How many net jobs will that create by next year?

My rule is that 4 private sector jobs are created for every useless tic the government lays off.

Your rule is more retarded than you are.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why taxes are lower: "A drop in income now can trigger big tax breaks and sharply lower rates, sometimes falling to zero."

Did you see that? Didja? These Progressives have a weird sense of humor.

 

[Chris]

Our economy is being starved to death because 400 people control HALF the wealth.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Our economy is being starved to death because 400 people control HALF the wealth.

Oh boy, we got a live one here



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg[/ame]

 

[Chris]

Adherents of most historical models identify many of the same features of the Ancien Régime as being among the causes of the Revolution. Economic factors included hunger and malnutrition in the most destitute segments of the population, due to rising bread prices (from a normal 8 sous for a four-pound loaf to 12 sous by the end of 1789),[3] after several years of poor grain harvests. Bad harvests (caused in part by extreme weather from El Niño along with volcanic activity at Laki and Grímsvötn), rising food prices, and an inadequate transportation system that hindered the shipment of bulk foods from rural areas to large population centers contributed greatly to the destabilization of French society in the years leading up to the Revolution.

Another cause was the state's effective bankruptcy due to the enormous cost of previous wars, particularly the financial strain caused by French participation in the American Revolutionary War. The national debt amounted to some 1,000–2,000 million[citation needed] livres. The social burdens caused by war included the huge war debt, made worse by the loss of France's colonial possessions in North America and the growing commercial dominance of Great Britain. France's inefficient and antiquated financial system was unable to manage the national debt, something which was both partially caused and exacerbated by the burden of an inadequate system of taxation. To obtain new money to head off default on the government's loans, the king called an Assembly of Notables in 1787.

Meanwhile, the royal court at Versailles was seen as being isolated from, and indifferent to, the hardships of the lower classes. While in theory King Louis XVI was an absolute monarch, in practice he was often indecisive and known to back down when faced with strong opposition. While he did reduce government expenditures, opponents in the parlements successfully thwarted his attempts at enacting much needed reforms. Those who were opposed to Louis' policies further undermined royal authority by distributing pamphlets (often reporting false or exaggerated information) that criticized the government and its officials, stirring up public opinion against the monarchy.[4]

French Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well your idea about roads and bridges creating jobs is a myth imo. I live in KC. It has a large population with high unemployment. We have major road and bridge projects going on every year including before the downturn. Those projects have had 0 impact on our unemployed.

As far as corporations sitting on money your right. But why? Could it be the fear of the massive regulations? Could it be fear that obamas policies are going to have negative impacts on the economy as a whole?

I'll give you one example of jobs lost because of fear.... I am willing and able to buy another company truck. It's about a 50k investment. I have the money but am scared to death to spend it because I don't feel confident that I will have enough work through the next year to justify the investment.

Now do you consider me one of those evil and greedy business men?

One wonders where all this "money corporations and rich people are sitting on" that the leftist parrots keep talking about IS, in their imaginations. Do they think Warren Buffett has $100-dollar bills stuffed in his mattress and buried in his backyard? Does Proctor & Gamble have a giant vault in the basement of their corporate headquarters filled with stacks of cash? Precisely what do the leftists MEAN when they say this? Do they even know?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Adherents of most historical models identify many of the same features of the Ancien Régime as being among the causes of the Revolution. Economic factors included hunger and malnutrition in the most destitute segments of the population, due to rising bread prices (from a normal 8 sous for a four-pound loaf to 12 sous by the end of 1789),[3] after several years of poor grain harvests. Bad harvests (caused in part by extreme weather from El Niño along with volcanic activity at Laki and Grímsvötn), rising food prices, and an inadequate transportation system that hindered the shipment of bulk foods from rural areas to large population centers contributed greatly to the destabilization of French society in the years leading up to the Revolution.

Another cause was the state's effective bankruptcy due to the enormous cost of previous wars, particularly the financial strain caused by French participation in the American Revolutionary War. The national debt amounted to some 1,000–2,000 million[citation needed] livres. The social burdens caused by war included the huge war debt, made worse by the loss of France's colonial possessions in North America and the growing commercial dominance of Great Britain. France's inefficient and antiquated financial system was unable to manage the national debt, something which was both partially caused and exacerbated by the burden of an inadequate system of taxation. To obtain new money to head off default on the government's loans, the king called an Assembly of Notables in 1787.

Meanwhile, the royal court at Versailles was seen as being isolated from, and indifferent to, the hardships of the lower classes. While in theory King Louis XVI was an absolute monarch, in practice he was often indecisive and known to back down when faced with strong opposition. While he did reduce government expenditures, opponents in the parlements successfully thwarted his attempts at enacting much needed reforms. Those who were opposed to Louis' policies further undermined royal authority by distributing pamphlets (often reporting false or exaggerated information) that criticized the government and its officials, stirring up public opinion against the monarchy.[4]

French Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

because you just typed that long winded jibberish I'm going to change my whole life philosophy.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Our economy is being starved to death because 400 people control HALF the wealth.

Oh boy, we got a live one here



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg]YouTube - ‪Socialist World Republic - Sozialistische Weltrepublik‬‏[/ame]

It is quite possibly the most regurgitated line of bullshit I keep hearing from the left.

Were the rich not rich under Clinton, Bush or any other president? Suddenly they are destroying our economy. Pathetic.

Stop being so god damn jealous and earn your own damn money. Or continue hugging your trees while wondering why the money isn't falling out of them.

The 400 rich talking point makes you guys look absolutely pathetic.

 

[Chris]

Our economy is being starved to death because 400 people control HALF the wealth.

Oh boy, we got a live one here



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg]YouTube - ‪Socialist World Republic - Sozialistische Weltrepublik‬‏[/ame]

It is quite possibly the most regurgitated line of bullshit I keep hearing from the left.

Were the rich not rich under Clinton, Bush or any other president? Suddenly they are destroying our economy. Pathetic.

Stop being so god damn jealous and earn your own damn money. Or continue hugging your trees while wondering why the money isn't falling out of them.

The 400 rich talking point makes you guys look absolutely pathetic.

I make plenty of money, and I am not jealous of anyone

But your personal attack is not an answer to the question.

What is more important, that American children get an education, that our people get healthcare, that roads and bridges get fixed, that advanced materials research be done, that our military be supplied with the best equipment, that old people be taken care of, that our debt be paid down, that our food and water is safe, that our environment is clean, OR THAT A BILLIONAIRE GETS A NEW YACHT???

 

[bripat9643]

You quoted Wikipedia, which has zero credibility.

French Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[bripat9643]

I make plenty of money, and I am not jealous of anyone

But your personal attack is not an answer to the question.

What is more important, that American children get an education, that our people get healthcare, that roads and bridges get fixed, that advanced materials research be done, that our military be supplied with the best equipment, that old people be taken care of, that our debt be paid down, that our food and water is safe, that our environment is clean, OR THAT A BILLIONAIRE GETS A NEW YACHT???

Your theory that the there exists such a trade-off hasn't been demonstrated.

It's just another page in the Dim class warfare manual.

Only the truly stupid are fooled by these tactics.