Muslim activist woman cries discrimination on plane

[thereisnospoon]

since I didn't attribute it to her faith but instead to her terrorist ties and her activist history, What facts do you have other than my posts regarding my opinion.
None you say?

and let me add that your constant insults destroy your credibility in any argument. Im actually afraid to make vulgar comments to you because by your posting method I an only assume that you are 13? maybe 14?
Wouldn't want your mother to come in and find adults conversing with you in an inappropriate manner if you know what I mean. If you don't know, find an adult and ask them to explain it to you.

She has no terrorist ties. That is a lie. She is a chaplain at a University. What activism. You offer a whole lot of conclusions but no facts to back them up. Two days in and you have offered not a single fact. Just typical anti-Islamic bigotry. As for my language, ignorant bigots like you have always pissed me off.

Its a nice day today,
shouldn't you be out riding your bike or something?

Have to plant with my son. Is that how you respond when you have nothing? Aren't you gonna share with us the facts you relied upon to reach your conclusions?

well, you could always do a google search on her and find out that she is an activist. and most likely looking for trouble.
for instance, the flight attendant handed her a CAN of diet coke, Ms. Activist shoved it back at her and demanded the coke zero. Flight attendant found a coke zero but had a limited supply so instead of giving her the whole can, she gave her a cup of coke zero.
now, common sense (get someone to help you here because you are a liberal) dictates that if there was a concern that the muslim was going to use the coke zero can as a weapon, what was the difference between that can and the diet coke can that she WAS handed in the first place.
is there something special about a coke zero can that I am unaware of? Does the appearance of that can make it look like an assault can? ( liberals do think this way)
the argument that she was discriminated against because they thought a muslim was going to make a weapon with the can falls apart quickly when it is pointed out that she was originally handed a CAN.

now that it has been pointed out, you do see how much of an idiot you are proving to be by believing her side of it, right?

What I see is you repeating the same nonsense the other two guys sharing your one brain, Ernie and spoon, have posted for the last day based on what some unnamed person claimed on a message board. No proof she was on the flight and no corroboration of these anonymous claims. And I am well aware of her accomplishments and her work to help fucktards like you and your two brain sharing friends shed your ignorance about Muslims.

Dude ,you have a room temperature IQ.....
Our ignorance about Muslims? Hey sheep follower...We can only go by our experiences and what we witness.
Get it?
I bear no ill will toward any individual who calls themselves Muslim. What I have a problem with is a religion of allegedly two billion people being commandeered by 1% or so of Islamic population while the rest remain virtually silent.
You live in your own reality. That's fine. Do not expect others to live in it with you

 

[thereisnospoon]

What's it like to base all opinion on race and religion to the point that you exclude actions from the equation.

I don't know. I have never done that. Ask your butt buddies therisnospoon and Ernie. And what actions have been excluded? You have one on the record account of what happened from a person whose credibility has never been questioned as well as an investigation by the airline that confirmed her account to the point where they apologized and removed the flight attendant. What facts do you have, other than her faith?

since I didn't attribute it to her faith but instead to her terrorist ties and her activist history, What facts do you have other than my posts regarding my opinion.
None you say?

and let me add that your constant insults destroy your credibility in any argument. Im actually afraid to make vulgar comments to you because by your posting method I an only assume that you are 13? maybe 14?
Wouldn't want your mother to come in and find adults conversing with you in an inappropriate manner if you know what I mean. If you don't know, find an adult and ask them to explain it to you.

She has no terrorist ties. That is a lie. She is a chaplain at a University. What activism. You offer a whole lot of conclusions but no facts to back them up. Two days in and you have offered not a single fact. Just typical anti-Islamic bigotry. As for my language, ignorant bigots like you have always pissed me off.

Its a nice day today,
shouldn't you be out riding your bike or something?

Have to plant with my son. Is that how you respond when you have nothing? Aren't you gonna share with us the facts you relied upon to reach your conclusions?

You dont have any facts either. All you have is that which the Muslim woman claims.

 

[paddymurphy]

I don't know. I have never done that. Ask your butt buddies therisnospoon and Ernie. And what actions have been excluded? You have one on the record account of what happened from a person whose credibility has never been questioned as well as an investigation by the airline that confirmed her account to the point where they apologized and removed the flight attendant. What facts do you have, other than her faith?

since I didn't attribute it to her faith but instead to her terrorist ties and her activist history, What facts do you have other than my posts regarding my opinion.
None you say?

and let me add that your constant insults destroy your credibility in any argument. Im actually afraid to make vulgar comments to you because by your posting method I an only assume that you are 13? maybe 14?
Wouldn't want your mother to come in and find adults conversing with you in an inappropriate manner if you know what I mean. If you don't know, find an adult and ask them to explain it to you.

She has no terrorist ties. That is a lie. She is a chaplain at a University. What activism. You offer a whole lot of conclusions but no facts to back them up. Two days in and you have offered not a single fact. Just typical anti-Islamic bigotry. As for my language, ignorant bigots like you have always pissed me off.

Its a nice day today,
shouldn't you be out riding your bike or something?

Have to plant with my son. Is that how you respond when you have nothing? Aren't you gonna share with us the facts you relied upon to reach your conclusions?

You dont have any facts either. All you have is that which the Muslim woman claims.

And what she says happened, the only account we have from someone we know was present, are facts. It is a fact that she was there. It is a fact that there was a dispute between her and a fight attendant. It is a fact that the airline investigated. It is a fact that they issued her a public apology. It is a fact that they considered the flight attendants conduct egregious enough that it barred her from working on their fights again. What facts do you have that allow you to judge credibility? Oh, yeah, she is a Muslim.

 

[paddymurphy]

She has no terrorist ties. That is a lie. She is a chaplain at a University. What activism. You offer a whole lot of conclusions but no facts to back them up. Two days in and you have offered not a single fact. Just typical anti-Islamic bigotry. As for my language, ignorant bigots like you have always pissed me off.

Its a nice day today,
shouldn't you be out riding your bike or something?

Have to plant with my son. Is that how you respond when you have nothing? Aren't you gonna share with us the facts you relied upon to reach your conclusions?

well, you could always do a google search on her and find out that she is an activist. and most likely looking for trouble.
for instance, the flight attendant handed her a CAN of diet coke, Ms. Activist shoved it back at her and demanded the coke zero. Flight attendant found a coke zero but had a limited supply so instead of giving her the whole can, she gave her a cup of coke zero.
now, common sense (get someone to help you here because you are a liberal) dictates that if there was a concern that the muslim was going to use the coke zero can as a weapon, what was the difference between that can and the diet coke can that she WAS handed in the first place.
is there something special about a coke zero can that I am unaware of? Does the appearance of that can make it look like an assault can? ( liberals do think this way)
the argument that she was discriminated against because they thought a muslim was going to make a weapon with the can falls apart quickly when it is pointed out that she was originally handed a CAN.

now that it has been pointed out, you do see how much of an idiot you are proving to be by believing her side of it, right?

What I see is you repeating the same nonsense the other two guys sharing your one brain, Ernie and spoon, have posted for the last day based on what some unnamed person claimed on a message board. No proof she was on the flight and no corroboration of these anonymous claims. And I am well aware of her accomplishments and her work to help fucktards like you and your two brain sharing friends shed your ignorance about Muslims.

Dude ,you have a room temperature IQ.....
Our ignorance about Muslims? Hey sheep follower...We can only go by our experiences and what we witness.
Get it?
I bear no ill will toward any individual who calls themselves Muslim. What I have a problem with is a religion of allegedly two billion people being commandeered by 1% or so of Islamic population while the rest remain virtually silent.
You live in your own reality. That's fine. Do not expect others to live in it with you

And what the one percent of Muslims do in the Middle East allows you to judge this American why? Catholics in Ireland joined the IRA and blew people up. I guess that allows you to judge all Catholics or Irish as likely to blow things up.

 

[paddymurphy]

What is it like to base all opinions on someone's race or religion? Must not take much effort at all.

What's it like to base all opinion on race and religion to the point that you exclude actions from the equation.

I don't know. I have never done that. Ask your butt buddies therisnospoon and Ernie. And what actions have been excluded? You have one on the record account of what happened from a person whose credibility has never been questioned as well as an investigation by the airline that confirmed her account to the point where they apologized and removed the flight attendant. What facts do you have, other than her faith?

since I didn't attribute it to her faith but instead to her terrorist ties and her activist history, What facts do you have other than my posts regarding my opinion.
None you say?

and let me add that your constant insults destroy your credibility in any argument. Im actually afraid to make vulgar comments to you because by your posting method I an only assume that you are 13? maybe 14?
Wouldn't want your mother to come in and find adults conversing with you in an inappropriate manner if you know what I mean. If you don't know, find an adult and ask them to explain it to you.

She has no terrorist ties. That is a lie. She is a chaplain at a University. What activism. You offer a whole lot of conclusions but no facts to back them up. Two days in and you have offered not a single fact. Just typical anti-Islamic bigotry. As for my language, ignorant bigots like you have always pissed me off.

Chaplain?......Muslims do not allow women to be anything but subservient. Therefore she cannot be any kind of spiritual leader in the Muslim faith. She may have honorary title or she may hold a theological certification......It doesn't matter. She like any other person is fallible. You often imply that because of the position she holds she is just the opposite.
Why the creepy worship of this woman? Why are you so adamantly opposing any one who is asking questions?......What's in this for you? On what is your bias toward or in favor of Muslims based? What is you motivation here?......And answers like "fairness" or some such are not acceptable. Tell your story. Explain it.

And yet, you lonely fucking tool (posting on a message board at midnight on a Saturday?), she is a Chaplain at a University you could never get into. And a leader in her community. What do you lead?

 

[paddymurphy]

What is it like to base all opinions on someone's race or religion? Must not take much effort at all.

What's it like to base all opinion on race and religion to the point that you exclude actions from the equation.

I don't know. I have never done that. Ask your butt buddies therisnospoon and Ernie. And what actions have been excluded? You have one on the record account of what happened from a person whose credibility has never been questioned as well as an investigation by the airline that confirmed her account to the point where they apologized and removed the flight attendant. What facts do you have, other than her faith?

since I didn't attribute it to her faith but instead to her terrorist ties and her activist history, What facts do you have other than my posts regarding my opinion.
None you say?

and let me add that your constant insults destroy your credibility in any argument. Im actually afraid to make vulgar comments to you because by your posting method I an only assume that you are 13? maybe 14?
Wouldn't want your mother to come in and find adults conversing with you in an inappropriate manner if you know what I mean. If you don't know, find an adult and ask them to explain it to you.

She has no terrorist ties. That is a lie. She is a chaplain at a University. What activism. You offer a whole lot of conclusions but no facts to back them up. Two days in and you have offered not a single fact. Just typical anti-Islamic bigotry. As for my language, ignorant bigots like you have always pissed me off.

Here we go....Another accusation of bigotry....
Ok...Now you WILL provide an example of anyone who has used any word or words that fall into the narrow definition of bigotry.
Disagreement or criticism is NOT bigotry.

Judging her not believable solely based on her faith is the very definition of Bigotry.

 

[paddymurphy]

What is it like to base all opinions on someone's race or religion? Must not take much effort at all.

What's it like to base all opinion on race and religion to the point that you exclude actions from the equation.

I don't know. I have never done that. Ask your butt buddies therisnospoon and Ernie. And what actions have been excluded? You have one on the record account of what happened from a person whose credibility has never been questioned as well as an investigation by the airline that confirmed her account to the point where they apologized and removed the flight attendant. What facts do you have, other than her faith?

since I didn't attribute it to her faith but instead to her terrorist ties and her activist history, What facts do you have other than my posts regarding my opinion.
None you say?

and let me add that your constant insults destroy your credibility in any argument. Im actually afraid to make vulgar comments to you because by your posting method I an only assume that you are 13? maybe 14?
Wouldn't want your mother to come in and find adults conversing with you in an inappropriate manner if you know what I mean. If you don't know, find an adult and ask them to explain it to you.

She has no terrorist ties. That is a lie. She is a chaplain at a University. What activism. You offer a whole lot of conclusions but no facts to back them up. Two days in and you have offered not a single fact. Just typical anti-Islamic bigotry. As for my language, ignorant bigots like you have always pissed me off.

She has ties to CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood.

No, she does not. You just make up lie after lie because you have no facts, other than the fact you hate Muslims.

 

[paddymurphy]

What I find amazing is how some people simply deny the existence of evidence because a name is missing in a story about the incident.

It is intellectually dishonest to insist the comment from a fellow passenger does not exist when it contains #1, a plausible explanation of events and details not generally known. It would be rational to assume that someone discrediting the account of a Muslim activist would want the protection afforded by anonymity.
If intentional ignorance is winning then we know who to award here.

It is implausible for someone to give more credit to someone who will not provide any proof that they were even present than to the person who told the same story several times, with no inconsistencies and who was determined to have been telling the truth by the airline such that they issued an apology. Actually, it is not implausible if the the one doing so cares only that the woman is a Muslim.

Stop it....You are a skipping DVD...same thing over and over again....."because she's a Muslim"....Dude....that dog has run away. It no longer applies because you cannot prove it to be the compelling motive behind the commentary.
It's over. Find something else on which to harp about.

When you offer a reason why you don't believe her that has nothing to do with her being a Muslim, then it might be over. So far, all you do is stereotype her because of her faith. Ties to Cair and the Muslim Brotherhood? Lies based on bigotry and ignorance.

 

[pismoe]

common sense and my observation of watching the muslim way of doing things tells me that this muslim woman is a liar . Good to see this muslim story in the news , I hope to see more Paddy !!

 

[paddymurphy]

Jesus you are a moron. When assessing someone's credibility, the kind of person they are, what they do for a living, what they have accomplished, how they are viewed by others is relevant. Having told the story publicly, repeatedly and without inconsistency is another sign of credibility. Having told the story publicly and having no one come forward and say, " hey. I was there. It did not happen that way" is another sign that she was telling the truth. Anonymous Facebook posts don't count.

All of course your opinion....Gee, what's it like having to be right all the time?.....What's it like insisting your are right all the time....
You must suffer from exhaustion

What is it like to base all opinions on someone's race or religion? Must not take much effort at all.

What's it like to base all opinion on race and religion to the point that you exclude actions from the equation.

I don't know. I have never done that. Ask your butt buddies therisnospoon and Ernie. And what actions have been excluded? You have one on the record account of what happened from a person whose credibility has never been questioned as well as an investigation by the airline that confirmed her account to the point where they apologized and removed the flight attendant. What facts do you have, other than her faith?

Who says the alleged victim of discrimination never had her credibility questioned?....
I warn you now....Cool it with the sexual innuendos and over the top name calling. Do it again, and I will find a way to have you banned.
I have not gone anywhere near that stuff and I will not tolerate it.....A word to the wise...Cut the shit or pay the price.

Oh my god. Banned from a site where racist pieces of shit like you share your hate and bigotry and stupidity? How can I survive? And stick your "warning" wherever it gives you a lift. She has not had her credibility questioned here or at any other time you can point to. Anonymous posting on a message board is not a valid basis to question her. I mean, if I were to post here that I know who you are and know that you are a convicted felon, should that be given any credibility? Can you orove you are not a thrice convicted kiddie porn trafficker? See how that works? Anonymous claims are bullshit.

 

[paddymurphy]

common sense and my observation of watching the muslim way of doing things tells me that this muslim woman is a liar . Good to see this muslim story in the news , I hope to see more Paddy !!

Common sense and observation tells me you are a loser who has not achieved in your life one tenth of she has and she had to do that while dealing with ignorant bigots like you every step of the way..

 

[paddymurphy]

Preju

Right. And you are not a bigot. Ignorant fucks like you embarrass normal people.

I posted the cartoon tongue in cheek, knowing it would get to you.

You have yet to show any bigotry on my part, but you HAVE shown a shit load of prejudice on yours.

Prejudice to who? Lying, bigoted pricks like you? That is not prejudice, that is sound judgment.

No, to a woman who didn't put her name on an internet site out of fear of retaliation from an obviously unbalanced woman.
Good bye

The poster never said if they were male or female. But now we get more bigotry. They are afraid of the Muslim chaplain at Northwestern. Cause, you know, all them Muslims likes to cut off da heads of good christuns..

Bigot....Bigot....Bigotry....Bigotry......BLAH BLAH BLAH....
Under boy who cried wolf is your picture...

Then post something that justifies you calling her a liar that does not involve her faith, lies about the Muslim Brotherhood, her being an activist for interfaith tolerance. If you cannot do that, you are a liar when you claim her faith has nothing to do with your claim she is lying.

 

[pismoe]

hey Paddy , good to see your response . Yeah , simply based on her religion and my observations of them over the years I'd say that the woman is a liar . Its just common sense plus watching their actions all over the world . Google the topic of hoax's perpetrated by her religion to see what I mean . Hope others in this thread also do some googling . Hoax's by these people are widespread , especially in the Western world . Check out the 'shiek ' in Australia to read about his hoax . Course , he got caught damaging his own mosque , caught on tape Paddy !! [funny]

 

[paddymurphy]

hey Paddy , good to see your response . Yeah , simply based on her religion and my observations of them over the years I'd say that the woman is a liar . Its just common sense plus watching their actions all over the world . Google the topic of hoax's perpetrated by her religion to see what I mean . Hope others in this heard also do some googling . Hoax's by these people are widespread , especially in the Western world . Check out the 'shiek ' in Australia to read about his hoax . Course , he got caught damaging his own mosque , caught on tape Paddy !! [funny]

And we all know that Christians and Jews never engage in hoaxes, right? Your world view is based on ignorance.

 

[paddymurphy]

She’s a rock star, what can I say,” University Chaplain Timothy Stevens says of Ahmad, one of the few female Muslim university chaplains in the nation.

Ahmad earned even more attention last year when she became the first woman to recite the Quran at the Islamic Society of North America convention in Washington, D.C., the largest Muslim gathering in the country. Her recitation sparked outrage among some conservatives — women are barred from reciting the Quran in public, in part, Ahmad says, because of a fear that a woman’s voice could fill men with lust.

Ahmad says she accepted the invitation to read from the Muslim scripture not out of ego or self-promotion but rather to meet a sense of spiritual responsibility on an issue of social justice.

“I believe that women’s issues, women’s leadership concerns and the role of Muslim women in the public space is something to be explored in an honest, open and intellectual manner,” Ahmad says. “I want to start asking those questions in a respectful way.”

Ahmad, who grew up in Morton Grove, Ill., taught at the Islamic Foundation School in Villa Park, Ill., after serving as the Muslim chaplain at Mount Holyoke College in Massachusetts. She came to Northwestern in 2010.

In addition to her role as adviser to the Muslim-cultural Student Association, Ahmad works with Muslim and non-Muslim students in her pastoral counseling. There are approximately 700 Muslim students, faculty and staff on the Chicago and Evanston campuses, according to rough estimates.

- See more at: Associate Chaplain Recognized as Leading Female Muslim Northwestern University News

 

[pismoe]

probably do Paddy , do some googling , do a thread on their hoax's but I thought this thread was on this particular muslim lady incident . Post away about Christian , Jew hoax's , ok with me as we can have more conversations Paddy .

 

[pismoe]

She’s a rock star, what can I say,” University Chaplain Timothy Stevens says of Ahmad, one of the few female Muslim university chaplains in the nation.

Ahmad earned even more attention last year when she became the first woman to recite the Quran at the Islamic Society of North America convention in Washington, D.C., the largest Muslim gathering in the country. Her recitation sparked outrage among some conservatives — women are barred from reciting the Quran in public, in part, Ahmad says, because of a fear that a woman’s voice could fill men with lust.

Ahmad says she accepted the invitation to read from the Muslim scripture not out of ego or self-promotion but rather to meet a sense of spiritual responsibility on an issue of social justice.

“I believe that women’s issues, women’s leadership concerns and the role of Muslim women in the public space is something to be explored in an honest, open and intellectual manner,” Ahmad says. “I want to start asking those questions in a respectful way.”

Ahmad, who grew up in Morton Grove, Ill., taught at the Islamic Foundation School in Villa Park, Ill., after serving as the Muslim chaplain at Mount Holyoke College in Massachusetts. She came to Northwestern in 2010.

In addition to her role as adviser to the Muslim-cultural Student Association, Ahmad works with Muslim and non-Muslim students in her pastoral counseling. There are approximately 700 Muslim students, faculty and staff on the Chicago and Evanston campuses, according to rough estimates.

- See more at: Associate Chaplain Recognized as Leading Female Muslim Northwestern University News

Big deal , so the woman is an activist' , as I said , Big Deal ehh Paddy ??

 

[pismoe]

and Timothy Stevens , well , his words might be his personal opinion of this 'ahmed' , course on todays diverse college campus it might just be his politically correct words because he wants to keep his job . And if Timothy wants to avoid protests he couldn't say anything critical of 'ahmed' or all 700 'muslim' students would be calling for his head and his job . A diverse College campus is the last place you want to go if you want to freely express your opinion , especially if you have a job on campus Paddy .

 

[Rexx Taylor]

and to think that they give full body searches to 6 month old babies.