Muslim flight attendant sues over serving alcohol on flights

[ClosedCaption]

It was all good when it was against the gays...but my Whisky?!!?! LORD HAMMERCY!

 

[Conservative65]

Yay religious freedom!

Until it's a Christian exercising them and you oppose and support fines they have to pay.

Hypocrite.

Sarcasm detector broken?

From that smartass, it wasn't sarcasm.

No surprise youre wrong again

No surprise you lie, again.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Well I'm not convinced Islam is a religion...more of an ideological platform that has went full blown political and infested with heathens

I'm not convinced that believing a man died for three days and then came back to life after turning water into wine and magically reattaching a man's severed ear with his bare hands isn't anything more than an ideological platform either.

Meh I don't care what you're convinced of. Have a good one

 

[Ravi]

the only question should be whether or not the company made a reasonable effort to accommodate her.

Based on the bakery case, her religious beliefs don't have to be accommodated.

you are clearly out of your depth and do not have an understanding of the pertinent laws or facts.

I have a full understanding. You defend the Muslim's religious beliefs and chastise the Christian using his.

no. you really don't.
and it's sad that you think you do because it's incredibly clear that you don't.

let me help you out - a business can't typically discriminate against someone because of race, religion, sex, and occasionally sexual orientation.

so refusing to sell someone a product that you sell to others because you don't like their religion or race is illegal.

but a business also has to make reasonable religious accommodations for its employees. 'reasonable' being the operative word, obviously you can't hire a bartender and then accommodate them when they say they can't serve alcohol. but reasonable might mean giving someone the ability to take their breaks at certain times to pray.

do you understand?

Serving alcohol is part of the job description of a flight attendant.

 

[Conservative65]

You dopes wanted a religious exemption and this is where it leads. Enjoy.

I don't want a blanket religious exemption, just that be factored into the analysis of a given situation.

It wouldn't be proper to allow one religion special privileges and not the others.

it's not a question of what religion, its a question of the impact on each party.

She should be allowed to wear a proper headscarf if she wants, even to take a quick 5 minute break to pray. these are not major impacts on the job at hand, and could be accommodated. However, one of the top 5 things a flight attendant does is serve refreshments to passengers, and having to get another one to serve people who want booze (especially on a smaller, single aisle plane) is a hardship on the airline, the passengers, and the other workers.

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

We both know what happened to those bakers. Should the same thing happen to her? She refused based on her religion.

 

[Ravi]

You dopes wanted a religious exemption and this is where it leads. Enjoy.

I don't want a blanket religious exemption, just that be factored into the analysis of a given situation.

It wouldn't be proper to allow one religion special privileges and not the others.

it's not a question of what religion, its a question of the impact on each party.

She should be allowed to wear a proper headscarf if she wants, even to take a quick 5 minute break to pray. these are not major impacts on the job at hand, and could be accommodated. However, one of the top 5 things a flight attendant does is serve refreshments to passengers, and having to get another one to serve people who want booze (especially on a smaller, single aisle plane) is a hardship on the airline, the passengers, and the other workers.

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

We both know what happened to those bakers. Should the same thing happen to her? She refused based on her religion.

They were fined. She should be fired.

 

[Uncensored2008]

"Muslim flight attendant"....should not be a profession.

They are in charge of the in-flight bombing option....

She wouldn't serve alcohol because she want's passengers to "get bombed" in a much more literal sense, Allahu Akbar.....

 

[Uncensored2008]

You dopes wanted a religious exemption and this is where it leads. Enjoy.

So she owns the airline, Rati?

You're just a hack. IF a Muslim wants to start an airline that doesn't serve alcohol, that is their right.

IF you take a job working for someone else, then the boss makes the rules.

Had you ever had a job in your life, you would grasp this,

 

[Conservative65]

the only question should be whether or not the company made a reasonable effort to accommodate her.

Based on the bakery case, her religious beliefs don't have to be accommodated.

you are clearly out of your depth and do not have an understanding of the pertinent laws or facts.

I have a full understanding. You defend the Muslim's religious beliefs and chastise the Christian using his.

no. you really don't.
and it's sad that you think you do because it's incredibly clear that you don't.

let me help you out - a business can't typically discriminate against someone because of race, religion, sex, and occasionally sexual orientation.

so refusing to sell someone a product that you sell to others because you don't like their religion or race is illegal.

but a business also has to make reasonable religious accommodations for its employees. 'reasonable' being the operative word, obviously you can't hire a bartender and then accommodate them when they say they can't serve alcohol. but reasonable might mean giving someone the ability to take their breaks at certain times to pray.

do you understand?

Serving alcohol is part of the job description of a flight attendant.

I don't want a blanket religious exemption, just that be factored into the analysis of a given situation.

It wouldn't be proper to allow one religion special privileges and not the others.

it's not a question of what religion, its a question of the impact on each party.

She should be allowed to wear a proper headscarf if she wants, even to take a quick 5 minute break to pray. these are not major impacts on the job at hand, and could be accommodated. However, one of the top 5 things a flight attendant does is serve refreshments to passengers, and having to get another one to serve people who want booze (especially on a smaller, single aisle plane) is a hardship on the airline, the passengers, and the other workers.

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

We both know what happened to those bakers. Should the same thing happen to her? She refused based on her religion.

They were fined. She should be fired.

The question is will she and if she isn't, do the bakers have a case?

 

[ClosedCaption]

When it happened to the Gays ppl were like "Im not gay and I dont like cake"

Now they're like HOW DARE SOMEONE REFUSE TO GIVE ME ALCOHOL!!!!!

 

[ogibillm]

the only question should be whether or not the company made a reasonable effort to accommodate her.

Based on the bakery case, her religious beliefs don't have to be accommodated.

you are clearly out of your depth and do not have an understanding of the pertinent laws or facts.

I have a full understanding. You defend the Muslim's religious beliefs and chastise the Christian using his.

no. you really don't.
and it's sad that you think you do because it's incredibly clear that you don't.

let me help you out - a business can't typically discriminate against someone because of race, religion, sex, and occasionally sexual orientation.

so refusing to sell someone a product that you sell to others because you don't like their religion or race is illegal.

but a business also has to make reasonable religious accommodations for its employees. 'reasonable' being the operative word, obviously you can't hire a bartender and then accommodate them when they say they can't serve alcohol. but reasonable might mean giving someone the ability to take their breaks at certain times to pray.

do you understand?

Serving alcohol is part of the job description of a flight attendant.

but you could say it's neither the largest part or the most important. so is it possible that another attendant could have handed out the alcoholic drinks, or that some other reasonable accommodation could have been made? that's all that matters. if they couldn't accomodate her, that's fine, she loses, end of story.

 

[turzovka]

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

Somehow I missed that in the demands at the Stonewall riots in New York?

Honestly, your definition of 'hardship' is an insult to 80% of this world oppressed or suffering.

 

[jillian]

Muslim flight attendant sues over serving alcohol on flights

A Muslim flight attendant has sued ExpressJet, accusing the airline of wrongly suspending her because she refused to serve alcohol to passengers.


Fuck muslims, alcohol bans are next, I hate that fukking religion and I hate the liberals who enable these wankers

I'll say what I always say.... if you can't do the job, find another job. that's what the lowlife clerk should have done in ohio.

Unlike some people I will not paint each situation with a broad brush. In this case, since the # of stewardesses on a flight is usually limited, accommodating her would probably place an undue burden on the employer. Now if she wants to wear a modest (flame resistant) head scarf, then the airline would probably have to allow her to do it. But part if the job of a stewardess is to serve food and drinks, and accommodation would place an undue burden on the employer, than they do not have to accommodate in this case.

This is a separate issue than the prickly case of how to remove a government official who doesn't want to do one part of their job, or the matter of non necessary, contracted services with regards to PA laws.

if you can't handle pork, you shouldn't work in a place that sells pork. if you can't handle alcohol and every person is expected to handle alcohol, find a different job.

 

[jillian]

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

Somehow I missed that in the demands at the Stonewall riots in New York?

Honestly, your definition of 'hardship' is an insult to 80% of this world oppressed or suffering.

that doesn't even make sense.

but thanks for trolling by

 

[dblack]

Based on the bakery case, her religious beliefs don't have to be accommodated.

you are clearly out of your depth and do not have an understanding of the pertinent laws or facts.

I have a full understanding. You defend the Muslim's religious beliefs and chastise the Christian using his.

no. you really don't.
and it's sad that you think you do because it's incredibly clear that you don't.

let me help you out - a business can't typically discriminate against someone because of race, religion, sex, and occasionally sexual orientation.

so refusing to sell someone a product that you sell to others because you don't like their religion or race is illegal.

but a business also has to make reasonable religious accommodations for its employees. 'reasonable' being the operative word, obviously you can't hire a bartender and then accommodate them when they say they can't serve alcohol. but reasonable might mean giving someone the ability to take their breaks at certain times to pray.

do you understand?

Serving alcohol is part of the job description of a flight attendant.

It wouldn't be proper to allow one religion special privileges and not the others.

it's not a question of what religion, its a question of the impact on each party.

She should be allowed to wear a proper headscarf if she wants, even to take a quick 5 minute break to pray. these are not major impacts on the job at hand, and could be accommodated. However, one of the top 5 things a flight attendant does is serve refreshments to passengers, and having to get another one to serve people who want booze (especially on a smaller, single aisle plane) is a hardship on the airline, the passengers, and the other workers.

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

We both know what happened to those bakers. Should the same thing happen to her? She refused based on her religion.

They were fined. She should be fired.

The question is will she and if she isn't, do the bakers have a case?

You seem to be thinking some kind of consistent principle will be applied. Probably should let that one go.

That's what's so perverse about this kind of legislation. It turns equal protection inside out. The idea used to be that everyone was treated equally under the law - i.e. treated equally by government. But under corporatism, we try to force everyone to treat each other equally, and we do it via government that treats people decidedly unequally.

 

[Ravi]

Based on the bakery case, her religious beliefs don't have to be accommodated.

you are clearly out of your depth and do not have an understanding of the pertinent laws or facts.

I have a full understanding. You defend the Muslim's religious beliefs and chastise the Christian using his.

no. you really don't.
and it's sad that you think you do because it's incredibly clear that you don't.

let me help you out - a business can't typically discriminate against someone because of race, religion, sex, and occasionally sexual orientation.

so refusing to sell someone a product that you sell to others because you don't like their religion or race is illegal.

but a business also has to make reasonable religious accommodations for its employees. 'reasonable' being the operative word, obviously you can't hire a bartender and then accommodate them when they say they can't serve alcohol. but reasonable might mean giving someone the ability to take their breaks at certain times to pray.

do you understand?

Serving alcohol is part of the job description of a flight attendant.

It wouldn't be proper to allow one religion special privileges and not the others.

it's not a question of what religion, its a question of the impact on each party.

She should be allowed to wear a proper headscarf if she wants, even to take a quick 5 minute break to pray. these are not major impacts on the job at hand, and could be accommodated. However, one of the top 5 things a flight attendant does is serve refreshments to passengers, and having to get another one to serve people who want booze (especially on a smaller, single aisle plane) is a hardship on the airline, the passengers, and the other workers.

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

We both know what happened to those bakers. Should the same thing happen to her? She refused based on her religion.

They were fined. She should be fired.

The question is will she and if she isn't, do the bakers have a case?

Maybe. You can't treat different religions differently. If she can't be fired we have the RWNJs to thank.

 

[ogibillm]

Based on the bakery case, her religious beliefs don't have to be accommodated.

you are clearly out of your depth and do not have an understanding of the pertinent laws or facts.

I have a full understanding. You defend the Muslim's religious beliefs and chastise the Christian using his.

no. you really don't.
and it's sad that you think you do because it's incredibly clear that you don't.

let me help you out - a business can't typically discriminate against someone because of race, religion, sex, and occasionally sexual orientation.

so refusing to sell someone a product that you sell to others because you don't like their religion or race is illegal.

but a business also has to make reasonable religious accommodations for its employees. 'reasonable' being the operative word, obviously you can't hire a bartender and then accommodate them when they say they can't serve alcohol. but reasonable might mean giving someone the ability to take their breaks at certain times to pray.

do you understand?

Serving alcohol is part of the job description of a flight attendant.

It wouldn't be proper to allow one religion special privileges and not the others.

it's not a question of what religion, its a question of the impact on each party.

She should be allowed to wear a proper headscarf if she wants, even to take a quick 5 minute break to pray. these are not major impacts on the job at hand, and could be accommodated. However, one of the top 5 things a flight attendant does is serve refreshments to passengers, and having to get another one to serve people who want booze (especially on a smaller, single aisle plane) is a hardship on the airline, the passengers, and the other workers.

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

We both know what happened to those bakers. Should the same thing happen to her? She refused based on her religion.

They were fined. She should be fired.

The question is will she and if she isn't, do the bakers have a case?

no. the bakers do not have a case. they discriminated based on sexual orientation.

 

[turzovka]

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

Somehow I missed that in the demands at the Stonewall riots in New York?

Honestly, your definition of 'hardship' is an insult to 80% of this world oppressed or suffering.

that doesn't even make sense.

but thanks for trolling by

Nothing makes sense to you Betty. Based on your answers.

You are a robot unable to move without commands from DNC.

 

[martybegan]

You dopes wanted a religious exemption and this is where it leads. Enjoy.

I don't want a blanket religious exemption, just that be factored into the analysis of a given situation.

It wouldn't be proper to allow one religion special privileges and not the others.

it's not a question of what religion, its a question of the impact on each party.

She should be allowed to wear a proper headscarf if she wants, even to take a quick 5 minute break to pray. these are not major impacts on the job at hand, and could be accommodated. However, one of the top 5 things a flight attendant does is serve refreshments to passengers, and having to get another one to serve people who want booze (especially on a smaller, single aisle plane) is a hardship on the airline, the passengers, and the other workers.

And if you have to travel several miles to get a cake because bigots won't accomadate you, that creates a hardship as well.

Being in a 15 foot diameter tube 7 miles in the air, unable to get any other service, and having to drive a few miles to get a cake you don't need for weeks or months is not comparable.

 

[Ravi]

Based on the bakery case, her religious beliefs don't have to be accommodated.

you are clearly out of your depth and do not have an understanding of the pertinent laws or facts.

I have a full understanding. You defend the Muslim's religious beliefs and chastise the Christian using his.

no. you really don't.
and it's sad that you think you do because it's incredibly clear that you don't.

let me help you out - a business can't typically discriminate against someone because of race, religion, sex, and occasionally sexual orientation.

so refusing to sell someone a product that you sell to others because you don't like their religion or race is illegal.

but a business also has to make reasonable religious accommodations for its employees. 'reasonable' being the operative word, obviously you can't hire a bartender and then accommodate them when they say they can't serve alcohol. but reasonable might mean giving someone the ability to take their breaks at certain times to pray.

do you understand?

Serving alcohol is part of the job description of a flight attendant.

but you could say it's neither the largest part or the most important. so is it possible that another attendant could have handed out the alcoholic drinks, or that some other reasonable accommodation could have been made? that's all that matters. if they couldn't accomodate her, that's fine, she loses, end of story.

In my opinion it's the most important duty.

If you take a job, you should do what you were hired to do.