Muslim Pilgrimage - Hajj 2011

[BecauseIKnow]

And like that logical let his racist nature out. Calling anyone who isn't white monkey men. Facsist troll

 

[logical4u]

And like that logical let his racist nature out. Calling anyone who isn't white monkey men. Facsist troll

Oh, you are the one that put the monkey in your posts. You are the little monkey man. It has nothing to do with race, just who you choose to be, a little ape mocking and imitating with no rational thoughts of your own, talking about pissing all over the place, just like a little monkey, little monkey man.

 

[Hollie]

Hajj - throwing rocks at devil pillars.

It really brings to mind islam's Pagan roots.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

And like that logical let his racist nature out. Calling anyone who isn't white monkey men. Facsist troll

Oh, you are the one that put the monkey in your posts. You are the little monkey man. It has nothing to do with race, just who you choose to be, a little ape mocking and imitating with no rational thoughts of your own, talking about pissing all over the place, just like a little monkey, little monkey man.

meltdown

 

[logical4u]

Hajj - throwing rocks at devil pillars.

It really brings to mind islam's Pagan roots.

That and they stick their heads into this vagina looking thing to kiss a rock. Talk about idolatry. They imitate a "man" (prophet mo) that broke everyone of the Commandments and say they believe in the same God. Allah has three daughters, where does it say the God of Abraham has three daughters?

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Hajj - throwing rocks at devil pillars.

It really brings to mind islam's Pagan roots.

That and they stick their heads into this vagina looking thing to kiss a rock. Talk about idolatry. They imitate a "man" (prophet mo) that broke everyone of the Commandments and say they believe in the same God. Allah has three daughters, where does it say the God of Abraham has three daughters?

Uh Muslims don't believe Allah has any daughters. They specifically call him THE ONE .. Allah means THE ONE..no ASSOCIATING anything with him. Their whole religion is based on that

 

[logical4u]

Hajj - throwing rocks at devil pillars.

It really brings to mind islam's Pagan roots.

That and they stick their heads into this vagina looking thing to kiss a rock. Talk about idolatry. They imitate a "man" (prophet mo) that broke everyone of the Commandments and say they believe in the same God. Allah has three daughters, where does it say the God of Abraham has three daughters?

Uh Muslims don't believe Allah has any daughters. They specifically call him THE ONE .. Allah means THE ONE..no ASSOCIATING anything with him. Their whole religion is based on that

THE "DAUGHTERS" OF ALLAH IDENTIFIED
By Keith Massey and Kevin Massey
'afara'aytumu 'llata wa'l'uzza
Have you seen Allat and al-Uzza
wamanata 'ththalithata 'l'ukhra
and Manat the third, the last? 1
These verses from the Quran, 18-19 of Sura an-Najm, "the Star, (53)" introduce the daughters of Allah—Allat, Uzza, and Manat. Putting aside the issue of text history and the so-called "Satanic Verses" which may have been deleted from this section, nothing out of the ordinary follows. Typical of the Prophet's mission, we see polytheism condemned and any security based on "intercession" denied. The goddesses themselves, however, have been the focus of considerable debate. Scholars have long disputed the identifications of these deities of pre-Islamic Arabia, usually settling on astral bodies such as the Sun, Moon, and Stars. In this article we will not revisit the issue of who Allat or Uzza or Manat were individually to their respective devotees. Instead, we will examine who Allat, Uzza, and Manat were as the formal grouping we see in Sura 53. We will argue
1 To clarify to all our many muslim friends, this article seeks to explain some curious verses in the Quran. We do not believe that Allah has daughters, but simply seek to uncover the reason that some people in Ancient Arabia apparently did believe that.

http://www.keithmassey.com/files/DaughtersoflAllah-Massey.pdf

 

[BecauseIKnow]

That and they stick their heads into this vagina looking thing to kiss a rock. Talk about idolatry. They imitate a "man" (prophet mo) that broke everyone of the Commandments and say they believe in the same God. Allah has three daughters, where does it say the God of Abraham has three daughters?

Uh Muslims don't believe Allah has any daughters. They specifically call him THE ONE .. Allah means THE ONE..no ASSOCIATING anything with him. Their whole religion is based on that

THE "DAUGHTERS" OF ALLAH IDENTIFIED
By Keith Massey and Kevin Massey
'afara'aytumu 'llata wa'l'uzza
Have you seen Allat and al-Uzza
wamanata 'ththalithata 'l'ukhra
and Manat the third, the last? 1
These verses from the Quran, 18-19 of Sura an-Najm, "the Star, (53)" introduce the daughters of Allah—Allat, Uzza, and Manat. Putting aside the issue of text history and the so-called "Satanic Verses" which may have been deleted from this section, nothing out of the ordinary follows. Typical of the Prophet's mission, we see polytheism condemned and any security based on "intercession" denied. The goddesses themselves, however, have been the focus of considerable debate. Scholars have long disputed the identifications of these deities of pre-Islamic Arabia, usually settling on astral bodies such as the Sun, Moon, and Stars. In this article we will not revisit the issue of who Allat or Uzza or Manat were individually to their respective devotees. Instead, we will examine who Allat, Uzza, and Manat were as the formal grouping we see in Sura 53. We will argue
1 To clarify to all our many muslim friends, this article seeks to explain some curious verses in the Quran. We do not believe that Allah has daughters, but simply seek to uncover the reason that some people in Ancient Arabia apparently did believe that.

http://www.keithmassey.com/files/DaughtersoflAllah-Massey.pdf

Nope. Allah strictly means the one. You can't change that.

 

[logical4u]

Uh Muslims don't believe Allah has any daughters. They specifically call him THE ONE .. Allah means THE ONE..no ASSOCIATING anything with him. Their whole religion is based on that

THE "DAUGHTERS" OF ALLAH IDENTIFIED
By Keith Massey and Kevin Massey
'afara'aytumu 'llata wa'l'uzza
Have you seen Allat and al-Uzza
wamanata 'ththalithata 'l'ukhra
and Manat the third, the last? 1
These verses from the Quran, 18-19 of Sura an-Najm, "the Star, (53)" introduce the daughters of Allah—Allat, Uzza, and Manat. Putting aside the issue of text history and the so-called "Satanic Verses" which may have been deleted from this section, nothing out of the ordinary follows. Typical of the Prophet's mission, we see polytheism condemned and any security based on "intercession" denied. The goddesses themselves, however, have been the focus of considerable debate. Scholars have long disputed the identifications of these deities of pre-Islamic Arabia, usually settling on astral bodies such as the Sun, Moon, and Stars. In this article we will not revisit the issue of who Allat or Uzza or Manat were individually to their respective devotees. Instead, we will examine who Allat, Uzza, and Manat were as the formal grouping we see in Sura 53. We will argue
1 To clarify to all our many muslim friends, this article seeks to explain some curious verses in the Quran. We do not believe that Allah has daughters, but simply seek to uncover the reason that some people in Ancient Arabia apparently did believe that.

http://www.keithmassey.com/files/DaughtersoflAllah-Massey.pdf

Nope. Allah strictly means the one. You can't change that.

So you are saying the quran is wrong?

 

[BecauseIKnow]

THE "DAUGHTERS" OF ALLAH IDENTIFIED
By Keith Massey and Kevin Massey
'afara'aytumu 'llata wa'l'uzza
Have you seen Allat and al-Uzza
wamanata 'ththalithata 'l'ukhra
and Manat the third, the last? 1
These verses from the Quran, 18-19 of Sura an-Najm, "the Star, (53)" introduce the daughters of Allah—Allat, Uzza, and Manat. Putting aside the issue of text history and the so-called "Satanic Verses" which may have been deleted from this section, nothing out of the ordinary follows. Typical of the Prophet's mission, we see polytheism condemned and any security based on "intercession" denied. The goddesses themselves, however, have been the focus of considerable debate. Scholars have long disputed the identifications of these deities of pre-Islamic Arabia, usually settling on astral bodies such as the Sun, Moon, and Stars. In this article we will not revisit the issue of who Allat or Uzza or Manat were individually to their respective devotees. Instead, we will examine who Allat, Uzza, and Manat were as the formal grouping we see in Sura 53. We will argue
1 To clarify to all our many muslim friends, this article seeks to explain some curious verses in the Quran. We do not believe that Allah has daughters, but simply seek to uncover the reason that some people in Ancient Arabia apparently did believe that.

http://www.keithmassey.com/files/DaughtersoflAllah-Massey.pdf

Nope. Allah strictly means the one. You can't change that.

So you are saying the quran is wrong?

You don't understand the Koran. Go read that chapter a few times and see what it means.

 

[logical4u]

Nope. Allah strictly means the one. You can't change that.

So you are saying the quran is wrong?

You don't understand the Koran. Go read that chapter a few times and see what it means.

Al-Lat (Goddess), al-Uzza (Power)

Manat (Fate)

The Satanic Verses



Have ye seen Allat and 'Uzza, And another, the third [goddess], Manat?

[Words of Satan:] These are the exalted intermediaries whose intercession is to be hoped for.

--Koran 53: 19-20





Satanic Verses
Muslim scholars admit there are Goddesses in the Koran.

The story is, Satan tricked Mohammed into putting those verses in the Koran. But Allah sent a new revelation allowing Mohammed to leave the verses in but correct the mistake. Which Mohammed did, by calling them quote, "angels whom pagans ignorantly think are goddesses." Because Satan tricked Mohammed into putting Goddess names in the Koran, those verses are called the Satanic Verses - inspired by Satan. Geez. Talk about demonizing anything sacred feminine!

You may remember the novel Satanic Verses by Salmon Rushdie, that got him condemned to die by the Muslim world...

Satanic Verses, Goddess names in the Koran; Slide 14

Yup, deception, deception, deception, and you support it.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

So you are saying the quran is wrong?

You don't understand the Koran. Go read that chapter a few times and see what it means.

Al-Lat (Goddess), al-Uzza (Power)

Manat (Fate)

The Satanic Verses



Have ye seen Allat and 'Uzza, And another, the third [goddess], Manat?

[Words of Satan:] These are the exalted intermediaries whose intercession is to be hoped for.

--Koran 53: 19-20





Satanic Verses
Muslim scholars admit there are Goddesses in the Koran.

The story is, Satan tricked Mohammed into putting those verses in the Koran. But Allah sent a new revelation allowing Mohammed to leave the verses in but correct the mistake. Which Mohammed did, by calling them quote, "angels whom pagans ignorantly think are goddesses." Because Satan tricked Mohammed into putting Goddess names in the Koran, those verses are called the Satanic Verses - inspired by Satan. Geez. Talk about demonizing anything sacred feminine!

You may remember the novel Satanic Verses by Salmon Rushdie, that got him condemned to die by the Muslim world...

Satanic Verses, Goddess names in the Koran; Slide 14

Yup, deception, deception, deception, and you support it.

You are stupid. And get things of anti Islamic websites. Read the next 10 verses. It doesn't say anywhere Allah has daughters. Of course you would take your info off Salman. What a bigoted shit you are

 

[AmericanFirst]

I'm curious.... If a Catholic flew a plane into the middle of the Hajj and killed, say, 3000 Muslims and then decided to build a church a street away, would Muslims see that as a symbol of peace and reconciliation or a slap in the face of Islam?

*Genuine question.

military planes of US and Nato have razed many villages and killed ten thousands in Afghanistan and Iraq!

should they build a mosque or a church?

In response to the satan worshipers attack on 9-11. People praising the satatn worshiping pedophile mohamed sure are stupid.

 

[AmericanFirst]

You don't understand the Koran. Go read that chapter a few times and see what it means.

Al-Lat (Goddess), al-Uzza (Power)

Manat (Fate)

The Satanic Verses



Have ye seen Allat and 'Uzza, And another, the third [goddess], Manat?

[Words of Satan:] These are the exalted intermediaries whose intercession is to be hoped for.

--Koran 53: 19-20





Satanic Verses
Muslim scholars admit there are Goddesses in the Koran.

The story is, Satan tricked Mohammed into putting those verses in the Koran. But Allah sent a new revelation allowing Mohammed to leave the verses in but correct the mistake. Which Mohammed did, by calling them quote, "angels whom pagans ignorantly think are goddesses." Because Satan tricked Mohammed into putting Goddess names in the Koran, those verses are called the Satanic Verses - inspired by Satan. Geez. Talk about demonizing anything sacred feminine!

You may remember the novel Satanic Verses by Salmon Rushdie, that got him condemned to die by the Muslim world...

Satanic Verses, Goddess names in the Koran; Slide 14

Yup, deception, deception, deception, and you support it.

You are stupid. And get things of anti Islamic websites. Read the next 10 verses. It doesn't say anywhere Allah has daughters. Of course you would take your info off Salman. What a bigoted shit you are

Yep, satan has no daughters, just stupid followers.

 

[logical4u]

You don't understand the Koran. Go read that chapter a few times and see what it means.

Al-Lat (Goddess), al-Uzza (Power)

Manat (Fate)

The Satanic Verses



Have ye seen Allat and 'Uzza, And another, the third [goddess], Manat?

[Words of Satan:] These are the exalted intermediaries whose intercession is to be hoped for.

--Koran 53: 19-20





Satanic Verses
Muslim scholars admit there are Goddesses in the Koran.

The story is, Satan tricked Mohammed into putting those verses in the Koran. But Allah sent a new revelation allowing Mohammed to leave the verses in but correct the mistake. Which Mohammed did, by calling them quote, "angels whom pagans ignorantly think are goddesses." Because Satan tricked Mohammed into putting Goddess names in the Koran, those verses are called the Satanic Verses - inspired by Satan. Geez. Talk about demonizing anything sacred feminine!

You may remember the novel Satanic Verses by Salmon Rushdie, that got him condemned to die by the Muslim world...

Satanic Verses, Goddess names in the Koran; Slide 14

Yup, deception, deception, deception, and you support it.

You are stupid. And get things of anti Islamic websites. Read the next 10 verses. It doesn't say anywhere Allah has daughters. Of course you would take your info off Salman. What a bigoted shit you are

I have been asking muslims for years to clarify these questions. If they will not do it, I must assume that they either DO NOT KNOW or THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY DECEIVING people. I am not the only one asking. If you are calling people "bigoted", they are going on what they have learned from "muslims" (nothing!). You want to tell everyone how great your faith is, yet you will not address the evils done in its name. You just go back to monkey man, speaking gibberish, and flinging waste....

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Al-Lat (Goddess), al-Uzza (Power)

Manat (Fate)

The Satanic Verses



Have ye seen Allat and 'Uzza, And another, the third [goddess], Manat?

[Words of Satan:] These are the exalted intermediaries whose intercession is to be hoped for.

--Koran 53: 19-20





Satanic Verses
Muslim scholars admit there are Goddesses in the Koran.

The story is, Satan tricked Mohammed into putting those verses in the Koran. But Allah sent a new revelation allowing Mohammed to leave the verses in but correct the mistake. Which Mohammed did, by calling them quote, "angels whom pagans ignorantly think are goddesses." Because Satan tricked Mohammed into putting Goddess names in the Koran, those verses are called the Satanic Verses - inspired by Satan. Geez. Talk about demonizing anything sacred feminine!

You may remember the novel Satanic Verses by Salmon Rushdie, that got him condemned to die by the Muslim world...

Satanic Verses, Goddess names in the Koran; Slide 14

Yup, deception, deception, deception, and you support it.

You are stupid. And get things of anti Islamic websites. Read the next 10 verses. It doesn't say anywhere Allah has daughters. Of course you would take your info off Salman. What a bigoted shit you are

I have been asking muslims for years to clarify these questions. If they will not do it, I must assume that they either DO NOT KNOW or THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY DECEIVING people. I am not the only one asking. If you are calling people "bigoted", they are going on what they have learned from "muslims" (nothing!). You want to tell everyone how great your faith is, yet you will not address the evils done in its name. You just go back to monkey man, speaking gibberish, and flinging waste....

There's nothing deceiving about it. You're deceiving yourself. Read it, it's clear in what it says. And doesn't say what you claim at all. It's not that hard to read that

 

[logical4u]

You are stupid. And get things of anti Islamic websites. Read the next 10 verses. It doesn't say anywhere Allah has daughters. Of course you would take your info off Salman. What a bigoted shit you are

I have been asking muslims for years to clarify these questions. If they will not do it, I must assume that they either DO NOT KNOW or THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY DECEIVING people. I am not the only one asking. If you are calling people "bigoted", they are going on what they have learned from "muslims" (nothing!). You want to tell everyone how great your faith is, yet you will not address the evils done in its name. You just go back to monkey man, speaking gibberish, and flinging waste....

There's nothing deceiving about it. You're deceiving yourself. Read it, it's clear in what it says. And doesn't say what you claim at all. It's not that hard to read that

I started reading it, but found too many inconsistancies to keep reading. It reads like an L Ron Hubbard book (blah, blah, blah for pages and pages, something important, blah, blah, blah....). It was written after the Bible and the Torah, yet, it gets the OT wrong. What is up with that? It claims the prophets of the Hebrews are also its prophets, yet it follows nothing those same prophets, taught. It claims Yeshua was one of its prophets, yet, it teaches the opposite of what Yeshua did. It says to have no idols or false gods, yet muslims worship Mohammed more that they do Allah (and Allah is not Jacob's Lord). Mohammed was just a man, yet muslims show him the reverence of a god. They tell us how powerful he is, yet they have to do his dirty work for him. Would love to get some serious answers, but after years of asking, I have gotten used to monkey men hiding and flinging waste.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

I have been asking muslims for years to clarify these questions. If they will not do it, I must assume that they either DO NOT KNOW or THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY DECEIVING people. I am not the only one asking. If you are calling people "bigoted", they are going on what they have learned from "muslims" (nothing!). You want to tell everyone how great your faith is, yet you will not address the evils done in its name. You just go back to monkey man, speaking gibberish, and flinging waste....

There's nothing deceiving about it. You're deceiving yourself. Read it, it's clear in what it says. And doesn't say what you claim at all. It's not that hard to read that

I started reading it, but found too many inconsistancies to keep reading. It reads like an L Ron Hubbard book (blah, blah, blah for pages and pages, something important, blah, blah, blah....). It was written after the Bible and the Torah, yet, it gets the OT wrong. What is up with that? It claims the prophets of the Hebrews are also its prophets, yet it follows nothing those same prophets, taught. It claims Yeshua was one of its prophets, yet, it teaches the opposite of what Yeshua did. It says to have no idols or false gods, yet muslims worship Mohammed more that they do Allah (and Allah is not Jacob's Lord). Mohammed was just a man, yet muslims show him the reverence of a god. They tell us how powerful he is, yet they have to do his dirty work for him. Would love to get some serious answers, but after years of asking, I have gotten used to monkey men hiding and flinging waste.

You're not asking for answers. You're bashing Islam. I really don't care if you want to rant. Don't be dishonest and say you're looking for answers. It's apparent by your wiring style you just want to bash.

 

[logical4u]

There's nothing deceiving about it. You're deceiving yourself. Read it, it's clear in what it says. And doesn't say what you claim at all. It's not that hard to read that

I started reading it, but found too many inconsistancies to keep reading. It reads like an L Ron Hubbard book (blah, blah, blah for pages and pages, something important, blah, blah, blah....). It was written after the Bible and the Torah, yet, it gets the OT wrong. What is up with that? It claims the prophets of the Hebrews are also its prophets, yet it follows nothing those same prophets, taught. It claims Yeshua was one of its prophets, yet, it teaches the opposite of what Yeshua did. It says to have no idols or false gods, yet muslims worship Mohammed more that they do Allah (and Allah is not Jacob's Lord). Mohammed was just a man, yet muslims show him the reverence of a god. They tell us how powerful he is, yet they have to do his dirty work for him. Would love to get some serious answers, but after years of asking, I have gotten used to monkey men hiding and flinging waste.

You're not asking for answers. You're bashing Islam. I really don't care if you want to rant. Don't be dishonest and say you're looking for answers. It's apparent by your wiring style you just want to bash.

Are you crying because my questions are not politically correct, enough? I tried asking nicely, and you played ignorant. You wanted "simpler" questions. I asked direct, straight forward question, no tact, no grey areas, and you could not handle it. When you want to get serious about your religion, answer some of these questions. Maybe, then, people will believe you when you say that it is a "religion", and they will not believe it is a "cult", because right now, the followers of islam seem to be acting the same way the followers of Jim Jones and Charles Manson did....

 

[BecauseIKnow]

I started reading it, but found too many inconsistancies to keep reading. It reads like an L Ron Hubbard book (blah, blah, blah for pages and pages, something important, blah, blah, blah....). It was written after the Bible and the Torah, yet, it gets the OT wrong. What is up with that? It claims the prophets of the Hebrews are also its prophets, yet it follows nothing those same prophets, taught. It claims Yeshua was one of its prophets, yet, it teaches the opposite of what Yeshua did. It says to have no idols or false gods, yet muslims worship Mohammed more that they do Allah (and Allah is not Jacob's Lord). Mohammed was just a man, yet muslims show him the reverence of a god. They tell us how powerful he is, yet they have to do his dirty work for him. Would love to get some serious answers, but after years of asking, I have gotten used to monkey men hiding and flinging waste.

You're not asking for answers. You're bashing Islam. I really don't care if you want to rant. Don't be dishonest and say you're looking for answers. It's apparent by your wiring style you just want to bash.

Are you crying because my questions are not politically correct, enough? I tried asking nicely, and you played ignorant. You wanted "simpler" questions. I asked direct, straight forward question, no tact, no grey areas, and you could not handle it. When you want to get serious about your religion, answer some of these questions. Maybe, then, people will believe you when you say that it is a "religion", and they will not believe it is a "cult", because right now, the followers of islam seem to be acting the same way the followers of Jim Jones and Charles Manson did....

You fool you aren't even asking questions. It's your problem you have terrible reading comprehension. And nobody is forcing you into anything. Keep talking to yourself wacko. I could care less about you or care about your beliefs. You want it believe what you're saying. Go ahead. We don't care. If that's fits your view. Go ahead. Again you actually think you're a person to be taken seriously--is sad.