Muslims in Georgia

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Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque

"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.

Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."


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so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right

people have been heard. This is what democracy is about

as long as it stays peaceful

Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:





 
It's always another mosque. Conquering the host country one acre at a time.
 
Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque

"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.

Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."


Screenshot-866-620x344.png


so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right

people have been heard. This is what democracy is about

as long as it stays peaceful

Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:




Why is building a Mosque considered not assimilating? Do they need to be Baptists, too?

Can Christians and Catholics and Montessori build schools? Why can't this Muslim community?
 
Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque

"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.

Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."


Screenshot-866-620x344.png


so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right

people have been heard. This is what democracy is about

as long as it stays peaceful

Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:


Marching, with firearms, protesting the building of a religious house of worship, or school, or cemetary is wrong in so many ways....legal, of course, as long as it's peaceful but I wonder how I, if I were an American citizen who is Muslim, would feel seeing that. Would it be the same way the Jews felt when the Germans started closing down their business and synagogues? The presence of firearms changes the message and gives it a far more sinister aspect.

It's both very American....and very unAmerican.
 
Marching with guns is not democracy. Its anti democracy and goes to deny these people their constitutional rights.

It's a constitutional right in this country.

But it is also blatant intimidation to a peaceful group of American citizens.
 
Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque

"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.

Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."


Screenshot-866-620x344.png


so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right

people have been heard. This is what democracy is about

as long as it stays peaceful

Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:
Why is building a Mosque considered not assimilating? Do they need to be Baptists, too?

Can Christians and Catholics and Montessori build schools? Why can't this Muslim community?

Still has to go through town approval. If the town trusted their muslim neighbors they might not object, but if they feel muslims want to impose their laws and beliefs on the town, state, country there needs to be a give and take of information and trust.

Muslims did not want to face the community so they canceled the town hall meeting.

Montessori schools have to meet standards and required teach and test students on basic subjects and mandatory testing as the rest of the state.

Religious catholic and jewish schools also.

Standards for AMI Montessori Classrooms | AMI USA
 
Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque

"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.

Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."


Screenshot-866-620x344.png


so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right

people have been heard. This is what democracy is about

as long as it stays peaceful

Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:
Why is building a Mosque considered not assimilating? Do they need to be Baptists, too?

Can Christians and Catholics and Montessori build schools? Why can't this Muslim community?

Still has to go through town approval. If the town trusted their muslim neighbors they might not object, but if they feel muslims want to impose their laws and beliefs on the town, state, country there needs to be a give and take of information and trust.

Muslims did not want to face the community so they canceled the town hall meeting.

Montessori schools have to meet standards and required teach and test students on basic subjects and mandatory testing as the rest of the state.

Religious catholic and jewish schools also.

Standards for AMI Montessori Classrooms | AMI USA
I am not understanding this. Religious freedom is dependant on the approval of the majority ?
 
Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque

"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.

Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."


Screenshot-866-620x344.png


so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right

people have been heard. This is what democracy is about

as long as it stays peaceful

Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:


Marching, with firearms, protesting the building of a religious house of worship, or school, or cemetary is wrong in so many ways....legal, of course, as long as it's peaceful but I wonder how I, if I were an American citizen who is Muslim, would feel seeing that. Would it be the same way the Jews felt when the Germans started closing down their business and synagogues? The presence of firearms changes the message and gives it a far more sinister aspect.

It's both very American....and very unAmerican.


some communities that have carry permits might also allow them to be carried in town hall meeting

???

Or checked in at the door but carried outside

???

the people made a statement just showing up. Muslims did not want to plead their case to the town.
 
Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque

"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.

Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."


Screenshot-866-620x344.png


so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right

people have been heard. This is what democracy is about

as long as it stays peaceful

Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:
Why is building a Mosque considered not assimilating? Do they need to be Baptists, too?

Can Christians and Catholics and Montessori build schools? Why can't this Muslim community?

Still has to go through town approval. If the town trusted their muslim neighbors they might not object, but if they feel muslims want to impose their laws and beliefs on the town, state, country there needs to be a give and take of information and trust.

Muslims did not want to face the community so they canceled the town hall meeting.

Montessori schools have to meet standards and required teach and test students on basic subjects and mandatory testing as the rest of the state.

Religious catholic and jewish schools also.

Standards for AMI Montessori Classrooms | AMI USA
I am not understanding this. Religious freedom is dependant on the approval of the majority ?


building and zoning are

religious freedom is secondary to local, state and federal laws. Sharia is not allowed to supersede them, but for some muslims it does, in their minds.

As for the cemetery, some laces do not allow a body to be buried without a coffin, or certain types of coffins. Some deaths require autopsies. Schools required to meet certain equality between sexes and standards of education and testing as well as treatment of the students.
 
other churches, cemeteries and schools have to do the same in many communities
 
Muslims in Georgia announced a town meeting with the purpose of building a Muslim-only cemetery, an Islamic school, and yet another mosque

"The Express reports that the non-Muslim majority responded to the proposals by marching on the town square with firearms in tow to not only protest the construction of the Islamic facilities but also to demonstrate the American freedoms that are opposed by Islamic fundamentals and outlawed under Sharia law.

Newton County Muslims were apparently so appalled at the peaceful demonstration that they immediately called off the town meeting over a proposed mosque and attached religious school."


Screenshot-866-620x344.png


so wrong
so right
so wrong
so right

people have been heard. This is what democracy is about

as long as it stays peaceful

Now is there a compromise of a church donating space on Fridays for prayer or letting them use a hall for feeding the homeless when not serving food? Park gazebo? Maybe even a synagogue could rent or offer space at certain hours or on Fridays? Make it open to the public so the community knows what is happening in a mosque and what is being sermonized so they can understand and learn to have less objections? Find ways to integrate into the community instead of being isolated and treated with suspicion? Have community forums where by modifications to the misuse of sharia can be discussed and reform might be implemented? Christians, jews, etc. are subject to state and federal law above their religious laws and beliefs. Find a way for muslims in the community to conform as well. Teach them to understand they are american's first and muslims second.

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:


Marching, with firearms, protesting the building of a religious house of worship, or school, or cemetary is wrong in so many ways....legal, of course, as long as it's peaceful but I wonder how I, if I were an American citizen who is Muslim, would feel seeing that. Would it be the same way the Jews felt when the Germans started closing down their business and synagogues? The presence of firearms changes the message and gives it a far more sinister aspect.

It's both very American....and very unAmerican.
It wasn't a sinister aspect. It was a statement of fact.

If Jews in 1938 Germany were raping women, beating up those they felt were inappropriately dressed. Raping 10 year old boys and claiming sexual emergency, then Hitler would have been right and Jews have no complaint comingm
 
Reciprocity. When do we show outrage at the fact Muslim countries still have legal slavery, ban and/or tax non Muslims? They punish homosexuality and adultery as if this was still the 13th century? Really, the American south may be a backwater, kowtowing to a religion that still lives in the dark ages isn't a step up, either.
 
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Marching with guns is not democracy. Its anti democracy and goes to deny these people their constitutional rights.

It's a constitutional right in this country.

But it is also blatant intimidation to a peaceful group of American citizens.


As opposed to red necks in trucks with a shot gun hanging in the back window and a large drooling dog in the cab with the window rolled all the way down?

Towns and counties in part of the country have different rules from large cities and more metropolitan communities.

If the down had all showed up with their dogs in the town hall or a bottle of beer and a pork sandwich?

Is it right to muslims to tell schools they have to only serve all halal food to the students not just the muslim ones? Students with allergies usually bring their own food and some allowed to eat in "nut" free zones or separate rooms.

If a school banned all food for all the allergies of all the students, there would be nearly nothing they could serve.

What of uniforms where muslims demand their students wear the hijab, niqba or abaya for the boys and not participate in certain classes and activities or separate the boys from the girls in classes or actually have separate the sexes in the whole school?

In flood zones or areas near water ways and swamps, would you want a cemetery where the bodies were not preserved or laid in only a shroud? Not even autopsied to find if they body might be carrying something contagious even years later? No cremation or above ground burials? Not knowing what the rains and runoff might carry a mile of more away or into water aquifers and wells?

After Katrina more than a hundred coffins were found miles away and had to be identified and returned if possible. Would you want half decomposed bodies in nothing but a sheet floating in your area in a flood or disaster? Georgia is not exactly desert climate where the body will naturally mummify or left to the bugs? Yes, these are matters for the town to decide on? Muslim cemeteries are no visited on a regular basis like other faiths. Women are not suppose to visit or morn. Women are usually not allowed near the grave yard even during burial and might only see it once after one year if at all.

Town halls allow for open discussions on such items and for the town to vote on changes. Those who don't know about or understand need to be able to learn before making a decision for the town.

It is about information and the community working together to find the right solution.

It is about muslims or any outside group learning to work with their neighbors and assimilating into america.
 
Muslims will NEVER assimilate.

it's all the contrary...

Islam "commands" Muslims to convert infidels to Islam or kill them.
 
Marching with guns is not democracy. Its anti democracy and goes to deny these people their constitutional rights.

It's a constitutional right in this country.

But it is also blatant intimidation to a peaceful group of American citizens.


As opposed to red necks in trucks with a shot gun hanging in the back window and a large drooling dog in the cab with the window rolled all the way down?

Towns and counties in part of the country have different rules from large cities and more metropolitan communities.

If the down had all showed up with their dogs in the town hall or a bottle of beer and a pork sandwich?

Is it right to muslims to tell schools they have to only serve all halal food to the students not just the muslim ones? Students with allergies usually bring their own food and some allowed to eat in "nut" free zones or separate rooms.

If a school banned all food for all the allergies of all the students, there would be nearly nothing they could serve.

What of uniforms where muslims demand their students wear the hijab, niqba or abaya for the boys and not participate in certain classes and activities or separate the boys from the girls in classes or actually have separate the sexes in the whole school?

In flood zones or areas near water ways and swamps, would you want a cemetery where the bodies were not preserved or laid in only a shroud? Not even autopsied to find if they body might be carrying something contagious even years later? No cremation or above ground burials? Not knowing what the rains and runoff might carry a mile of more away or into water aquifers and wells?

After Katrina more than a hundred coffins were found miles away and had to be identified and returned if possible. Would you want half decomposed bodies in nothing but a sheet floating in your area in a flood or disaster? Georgia is not exactly desert climate where the body will naturally mummify or left to the bugs? Yes, these are matters for the town to decide on? Muslim cemeteries are no visited on a regular basis like other faiths. Women are not suppose to visit or morn. Women are usually not allowed near the grave yard even during burial and might only see it once after one year if at all.

Town halls allow for open discussions on such items and for the town to vote on changes. Those who don't know about or understand need to be able to learn before making a decision for the town.

It is about information and the community working together to find the right solution.

It is about muslims or any outside group learning to work with their neighbors and assimilating into america.
It looks like the townsfolk did not want to discuss these matters and turned up to intimidate the minority community.
 

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