Muzzling Opposing Voices

[PaintMyHouse]

America of course. Why else would I hate Americans this much?

If you hate America, why do you live here? Surely you would feel better about expressing yourself from somewhere you don't hate. "Muzzling" you voice would be another country's problem.

Hey, give him credit.
At least he's being honest about his hatred.

That's the easy part. Living with it is harder.

 

[dr.d]

Actually..."liberal", by definition, means "open" and "tolerant of differences"; and progressive means "moving forward"....so I don't know what u lib bashers mean by "muzzling"...Disagreement it's not.
Perhaps u were thinking of the limits removed on the amount of money in politics...by conservative judges on the SCOTUS?
That indeed would muffle or obliterate voices that oppose the roar from aggregate moneyed interests....



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[PoliticalChic]

Actually..."liberal", by definition, means "open" and "tolerant of differences"; and progressive means "moving forward"....so I don't know what u lib bashers mean by "muzzling"...Disagreement it's not.
Perhaps u were thinking of the limits removed on the amount of money in politics...by conservative judges on the SCOTUS?
That indeed would muffle or obliterate voices that oppose the roar from aggregate moneyed interests....



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You need post no more.....You've summed it all up with "....so I don't know..."

 

[PoliticalChic]

America of course. Why else would I hate Americans this much?

If you hate America, why do you live here? Surely you would feel better about expressing yourself from somewhere you don't hate. "Muzzling" you voice would be another country's problem.

I have obligations here, and unlike you I have morals.

"... I have morals..."



Another lie.

 

[ron4342]

Actually..."liberal", by definition, means "open" and "tolerant of differences"; and progressive means "moving forward"....so I don't know what u lib bashers mean by "muzzling"...Disagreement it's not.
Perhaps u were thinking of the limits removed on the amount of money in politics...by conservative judges on the SCOTUS?
That indeed would muffle or obliterate voices that oppose the roar from aggregate moneyed interests....



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Those that accuse the liberals of "muzzling" are the same people who scream "Liberal media! Liberal media!" the loudest when the press tells them truths they do not wish to see or hear.
Always keep this in mind, according to karl rove your best defense to shut up others is to accuse them of what you are trying to do.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If you hate America, why do you live here? Surely you would feel better about expressing yourself from somewhere you don't hate. "Muzzling" you voice would be another country's problem.

I have obligations here, and unlike you I have morals.

"... I have morals..."
Another lie.

So you made it back eh, hurt feelings and demands for Political Correctness intact? You think you have morals? Let's find out shall we. Go check out the flames. I made you an Avatar. It fits you PERFECTLY.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Actually..."liberal", by definition, means "open" and "tolerant of differences"; and progressive means "moving forward"....so I don't know what u lib bashers mean by "muzzling"...Disagreement it's not.
Perhaps u were thinking of the limits removed on the amount of money in politics...by conservative judges on the SCOTUS?
That indeed would muffle or obliterate voices that oppose the roar from aggregate moneyed interests....

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Those that accuse the liberals of "muzzling" are the same people who scream "Liberal media! Liberal media!" the loudest when the press tells them truths they do not wish to see or hear.
Always keep this in mind, according to karl rove your best defense to shut up others is to accuse them of what you are trying to do.

Worked for him once but he doesn't have the grip, just a big ego and a need to pay the bills. As long as the Teabaggers take the GOP apart piece by piece, I'd like Karl to stand and watch.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. The feelings-based nature of liberalism helps explain why people on the Left are much more likely to claim to be “offended” when faced with which they differ. Not, ‘I disagree,” but “I am offended!”

When are people ‘offended’? When their feelings are hurt.

A pro-choice woman is ‘offended’ by the pro-life position, ostensibly because her feelings are more worthwhile than the objective worth of a human fetus.
‘Political correctness’ is also based on not hurting people’s feelings.
Complaint about Senator Joseph McCarthy often center around how abusive he was to communists….again, feelings.
Dennis Prager

My, my, what contempt you have for people who might find something offensive...

Probably plenty of contempt for someone like this:

"I'd have to agree that any who didn't find Holder's racial policies offensive and worthy of his being fired....must be either cowards or 'brain-washed.'"

http://www.usmessageboard.com/8558521-post59.html

Sorry Mr. Holder hurt your feelings...

 

[dr.d]

Another thing that puzzles me about lib bashers is their endless nattering about liberals being overly "emotional" and "responding more to emotion than reason".....when most of what I hear from the right ...especially from tea baggers...is invective designed to stir anger and fear...only they call it "being passionate"...
As far as "being offended"...many on the right seem to be actually offended that we have a black progressive prez....and we endlessly hear about "war on Christmas" and "class warfare", and "playing the race-card"or "gocha" whenever anyone questions conservative beliefs, taxing the rich more equitably, reading preferences, the role of religion or race In Social policies...
Lately, we heard that the top 1% were "feeling hurt" about allegedly "being demonized", poor things...
And I thought elephants were supposed to be thick skinned...
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[Unkotare]

America of course. Why else would I hate Americans this much?

If you hate America, why do you live here? Surely you would feel better about expressing yourself from somewhere you don't hate. "Muzzling" you voice would be another country's problem.

I have obligations here, and unlike you I have morals.

You have displayed no morals and no principles here, douchebag.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If you hate America, why do you live here? Surely you would feel better about expressing yourself from somewhere you don't hate. "Muzzling" you voice would be another country's problem.

I have obligations here, and unlike you I have morals.

You have displayed no morals and no principles here, douchebag.

How could you possibly know since you have no ability to judge?

 

[Unkotare]

I have obligations here, and unlike you I have morals.

You have displayed no morals and no principles here, douchebag.

How could you possibly know since you have no ability to judge?

Judging the likes of you is very simple, considering how obvious you are. You are a hypocrite who lacks the courage of his convictions, loser.

 

[BlindBoo]

I think Political Correctness comes form both side of the partisan divide. Both sides try to use PC language in order to not give the other side a Sound Bite that can be used against them. But as we saw in 2012 it can sometime turnaround and bite you in the ass. Like the failed Mitt meme that President Obama actually meant a person didn't build their own business when he was referring to the fantastic infrastructure we have here. Many independents looked with distain on that false campaigning based on a grammatical error.

What the fuck are you talking about?

PC is not pointing out that somebody said something stupid, it is the attempt to restrict speech and, by extension, thought so that it doesn't offend people based on gender, race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation or disability.

By the way, Obama was telling people that they didn't build their business.

And the mere notion that they didn't offended business people didn't it? By the way it was a simple grammatical error only, he was referring to the infrastructure and most everybody knows it. The extreme political positions have brought us political correctness.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

I think Political Correctness comes form both side of the partisan divide. Both sides try to use PC language in order to not give the other side a Sound Bite that can be used against them. But as we saw in 2012 it can sometime turnaround and bite you in the ass. Like the failed Mitt meme that President Obama actually meant a person didn't build their own business when he was referring to the fantastic infrastructure we have here. Many independents looked with distain on that false campaigning based on a grammatical error.

It was no grammatical error. It was the overall tone of the diatribe.

Anyways, your example holds no water, as there was nobody trying to silence his stupidly chosen words.

 

[BlindBoo]

I think Political Correctness comes form both side of the partisan divide. Both sides try to use PC language in order to not give the other side a Sound Bite that can be used against them. But as we saw in 2012 it can sometime turnaround and bite you in the ass. Like the failed Mitt meme that President Obama actually meant a person didn't build their own business when he was referring to the fantastic infrastructure we have here. Many independents looked with distain on that false campaigning based on a grammatical error.

It was no grammatical error. It was the overall tone of the diatribe.

Anyways, your example holds no water, as there was nobody trying to silence his stupidly chosen words.

Obviously some people choose to believe what they are told. In fact it was an uplifting campaign speech his audience was eating up.

Remarks by the President at a Campaign Event in Roanoke, Virginia | The White House

Somebody invested in roads and bridges. <> -- <>. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

I think Political Correctness comes form both side of the partisan divide. Both sides try to use PC language in order to not give the other side a Sound Bite that can be used against them. But as we saw in 2012 it can sometime turnaround and bite you in the ass. Like the failed Mitt meme that President Obama actually meant a person didn't build their own business when he was referring to the fantastic infrastructure we have here. Many independents looked with distain on that false campaigning based on a grammatical error.

It was no grammatical error. It was the overall tone of the diatribe.

Anyways, your example holds no water, as there was nobody trying to silence his stupidly chosen words.

Obviously some people choose to believe what they are told. In fact it was an uplifting campaign speech his audience was eating up.

Remarks by the President at a Campaign Event in Roanoke, Virginia | The White House

Somebody invested in roads and bridges. <> -- <>. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn&#8217;t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don&#8217;t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That&#8217;s how we funded the GI Bill. That&#8217;s how we created the middle class. That&#8217;s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That&#8217;s how we invented the Internet. That&#8217;s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that&#8217;s the reason I&#8217;m running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You&#8217;re not on your own, we&#8217;re in this together.

Apples and submarines.

Who tried to silence him? Who tried to claim that he had absolutely no business saying what he did?

Who labeled him a hater or flake and tried to destroy his life because he expressed an opinion, no matter how misguided, misinformed and self-righteous it may have been?

For the record, I find it equally outrageous that Joycelyin Elders was forced from her position for expressing her beliefs as was Brendan Eich.

 

[BlindBoo]

It was no grammatical error. It was the overall tone of the diatribe.

Anyways, your example holds no water, as there was nobody trying to silence his stupidly chosen words.

Obviously some people choose to believe what they are told. In fact it was an uplifting campaign speech his audience was eating up.

Remarks by the President at a Campaign Event in Roanoke, Virginia | The White House

Somebody invested in roads and bridges. <> -- <>. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together.

Apples and submarines.

Who tried to silence him? Who tried to claim that he had absolutely no business saying what he did?

Who labeled him a hater or flake and tried to destroy his life because he expressed an opinion, no matter how misguided, misinformed and self-righteous it may have been?

For the record, I find it equally outrageous that Joycelyin Elders was forced from her position for expressing her beliefs as was Brendan Eich.

The GOP. They wanted the Bully Pulpit back, labeled him a hater of success, and accused him of destroying the American way of life.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think Political Correctness comes form both side of the partisan divide. Both sides try to use PC language in order to not give the other side a Sound Bite that can be used against them. But as we saw in 2012 it can sometime turnaround and bite you in the ass. Like the failed Mitt meme that President Obama actually meant a person didn't build their own business when he was referring to the fantastic infrastructure we have here. Many independents looked with distain on that false campaigning based on a grammatical error.

It was no grammatical error. It was the overall tone of the diatribe.

Anyways, your example holds no water, as there was nobody trying to silence his stupidly chosen words.

Only you zombies in the rightwing cult either didn't know or pretended you didn't know what he meant.

Normal people had no problem understanding his point.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think Political Correctness comes form both side of the partisan divide. Both sides try to use PC language in order to not give the other side a Sound Bite that can be used against them. But as we saw in 2012 it can sometime turnaround and bite you in the ass. Like the failed Mitt meme that President Obama actually meant a person didn't build their own business when he was referring to the fantastic infrastructure we have here. Many independents looked with distain on that false campaigning based on a grammatical error.

It was no grammatical error. It was the overall tone of the diatribe.

Anyways, your example holds no water, as there was nobody trying to silence his stupidly chosen words.

Only you zombies in the rightwing cult either didn't know or pretended you didn't know what he meant.

Normal people had no problem understanding his point.

If you consider yourself part of "normal people" you must have a low opinion of folks.


Sentient individuals who understand the continuum, communist/socialist/Liberal/Progressive/Democrat/etc.....

...know exactly what the phrase means.

It sums up the view of every collectivist.




The individual or the collective?
Easy choice for those of us not part of the continuum.

If each individual is no more than a cog, a part of the machine, than what is society but an inexorable, impersonal, grinding machine? What of poetry, of art, or originality, or intelligence?


The 'machine' would be composed of nothing but individuals like you......

 

[dr.d]

Another thing that puzzles me about lib bashers is their endless nattering about liberals being overly "emotional" and "responding more to emotion than reason".....when most of what I hear from the right ...especially from tea baggers...is invective designed to stir anger and fear...only they call it "being passionate"...
As far as "being offended"...many on the right seem to be actually offended that we have a black progressive prez....and we endlessly hear about "war on Christmas" and "class warfare", and "playing the race-card"or "gocha" whenever anyone questions conservative beliefs, taxing the rich more equitably, reading preferences, the role of religion or race In Social policies...
Lately, we heard that the top 1% were "feeling hurt" about allegedly "being demonized", poor things...
And I thought elephants were supposed to be thick skinned...
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What? No response from all u self-righteous conservatives?


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